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Title: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: troyhamilton on March 09, 2019, 07:03:23 AM
Im all into saftey and surviving a crash. I found a pair of these for 5.00 at the Salvation Army...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDPcFGV9vPg
Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: Ncdan on March 09, 2019, 07:33:24 AM
The canvas type material used in Carhart work pants are very heavy and would probably offer good protection from abrasion injuries in a crash. However sudden impact is the killer.
Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: Dilliw on March 09, 2019, 07:55:50 AM
Im all into saftey and surviving a crash. I found a pair of these for 5.00 at the Salvation Army...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDPcFGV9vPg

I've got a pair that's at least 10 years old and they are holding up fine.  I don't wear them that much, however.

Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: Guzzistajohn on March 09, 2019, 08:08:20 AM
Im all into saftey and surviving a crash. I found a pair of these for 5.00 at the Salvation Army...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDPcFGV9vPg

I do, you got a deal for 5 bucks, but you know that : )
Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: troyhamilton on March 09, 2019, 09:47:22 AM
yeah i looked on line and they are 245! lol dollars
Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: Guzzistajohn on March 09, 2019, 10:12:00 AM
yeah i looked on line and they are 245! lol dollars

They must have gone up in price?? I can't see me doing that. I've had mine for a long time.
Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: kingoffleece on March 09, 2019, 11:07:40 AM
My understanding is that washing and UV degrade Kevlar over a relatively short time (2-3 years).
Is this correct?
Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: Rusty goose on March 09, 2019, 11:13:51 AM
I wanted a pair, but could not bring myself to shell out the dough. I bought a pair of the Duluth Trading Co's firehose pants instead. I don't know if they offer more protection than Carhart's, but they are roomy and quite comfortable.
Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: Daleroso on March 09, 2019, 11:17:00 AM
I've had a blue & blk pr over 10 yrs. Other than fading they feel like they'd do their job if needed.
Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: Ncdan on March 09, 2019, 11:29:02 AM
As far as the Kevlar goes. We did an experience a few years ago on 10 year old class 2 bullet proof vest that had been worn daily for 10 years. We shot several with a variety of handgun calibers and types of ammo. Every vest stopped every round with at least half the layers had not been penetrated. Stuff last for years I reckon.
Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: Daleroso on March 09, 2019, 11:58:12 AM
Actualy 3 pairs now that I recall. 2 blue, 1 blk. 1 is lined for cold. Paid $100 for 2 reg & $120 for the lined. New.
If the one you found fits, I say get'em.
Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: Guzzistajohn on March 09, 2019, 12:09:34 PM
I don't care much for the low wasted fit myself. I wear regular jeans and a overpant with armour.
Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: Lcarlson on March 09, 2019, 01:05:17 PM
I crash tested a pair of Draggin Jeans some years ago. The denim on the knees was destroyed, but the Kevlar didn’t have a mark on it. However, I now use Hood Motorcycle jeans, which also use an aramid fiber, but unlike DJs, it’s full coverage, not just knees and seat. Made in Great Britain.

https://www.hoodjeans.co.uk/hood-motorcycle-jeans/k7-jean-mens-blue/
Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: twowheeladdict on March 09, 2019, 02:29:27 PM
The canvas type material used in Carhart work pants are very heavy and would probably offer good protection from abrasion injuries in a crash. However sudden impact is the killer.

Only if the pavement is wet.  Otherwise, good for about a foot of sliding.

The Kevlar protects your skin because it doesn't heat up and has very good abrasion protection.
Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: twowheeladdict on March 09, 2019, 02:33:10 PM
My understanding is that washing and UV degrade Kevlar over a relatively short time (2-3 years).
Is this correct?

Yes, UV destroys Kevlar so storing them in a dark closet when not wearing is a good thing. 

I wash my Kevlar lined pants only when needed and I hang dry them in the garage or under one of the barn wings out of the sun.
Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: Shorty on March 09, 2019, 02:41:50 PM
Semi scientific comparo between Levis and "motorcycle " jeans:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ7CtprLUzA
Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: Huzo on March 09, 2019, 02:49:43 PM
I just paid $450 for a pair to use in Europe and they’re the duck’s guts.
Got the knee armour integral and they weigh a metric tonne. You just FEEL safer...!
Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: Socalrob on March 09, 2019, 03:29:01 PM
I have worn them daily since about 2004.  I have a short commute, 7 miles, which I ride most days.

I get a couple of new pairs a year.

Crash tested once down on the freeway at about 50 mph, a belt loop came unstitched on one end, still wearable after.

Beware, no armour.

I would still like something with outside pockets for armor I could take out at work.
Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: twowings on March 09, 2019, 04:09:24 PM
I use these https://www.bohnarmor.com/product-category/armored-motorcycle-riding-pants/ (https://www.bohnarmor.com/product-category/armored-motorcycle-riding-pants/) and wear whatever pants I want....
Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: Bobic69 on March 09, 2019, 04:24:08 PM
I have Kevlar Draggins. They have armour pockets on the hips and knees for impact protection. They look very well made though luckily I've never tested them. There is a gear safety rating website here in Oz and Draggin rates the best. Kevlar gear rates higher than anything else. Here's the link:
https://www.motocap.com.au/products/pants
Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: Darren Williams on March 10, 2019, 02:52:12 PM
I've experienced a 75 MPH test. Denim gone quick, Kevlar held up well, however...

Mine didn't fit tight and the Kevlar gave me some serious "carpet burns" and loose fit allowed the armor on one knee to move out of position. Serious burns and abrasions on that knee. Hips and butt were fine. The crash consisted of tumbling then sliding, then fighting off the bike trying to mount me. Not really sure what was happening when trying to get away from the bike.

Had another 80 MPH get off tumble only wearing regular jeans. I grabbed my knees to keep legs from flailing about in the tumble to prevent breaking/twisting bones and joints, and came out in much better shape. Go figure.

My son has some ROK jeans that have armor pockets and fit tight. I'm thinking tight fit is way better. If I'm riding serious in twisties, I'm not wearing Kevlar riding jeans anymore, going to wear real riding pants. But that's just me. Pay your money, take your chances.
Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: steven c on March 10, 2019, 04:14:31 PM
 When I wear my Kevlar lined pants I'll wear motocross knee and shin armor. Most of the time i wear my AD1 over pants.
Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: AJ Huff on March 10, 2019, 08:53:50 PM
I have the Diamond Gusset kevlar jeans.https://www.gusset.com/defender (https://www.gusset.com/defender) Bought them from their store in TN. Used to be made in Blue Ridge GA. Don't know if they still are.  I like them but never tested them in a crash. I bought some Bohn Armor knee pads to wear with them but they must size them for elves. I cut off the blood in my legs trying to use the velcro straps. Very disappointing.

-AJ
Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: rocker59 on March 11, 2019, 08:39:18 AM
I crash tested a pair of Draggin Jeans some years ago. The denim on the knees was destroyed, but the Kevlar didn’t have a mark on it. 

How did your knees fare? 

Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: Lcarlson on March 11, 2019, 08:54:40 AM
How did your knees fare?

Both knees had extensive friction burns, but that was a lot better than contact with the asphalt would have been. Bigger problem was eight broken ribs and one broken collarbone. Ugh.
Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: Sheepdog on March 11, 2019, 09:10:28 AM
I've got several pair of Draggin Jeans, as well as a pair of Joe Rockets. I like the Draggins best. My black ones have a pair of D30 CE-1 pads in the knees. I wear them a little loose, which seems to feel just right when on the bike. The black ones seem to fit a little looser. I had my right knee replaced a couple of years ago. I can't help wondering what that piece of hardware will do in a crash...

I had a 45mph fall in 2005. My Royal Robbins double-kneed canvas pants were shredded...
Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: Toecutter on March 11, 2019, 09:18:15 AM
I've been wearing Ugly Bros for several years now. Just got me a new pair, Kevlar from the knee up. I always wear them with knee and hip armour in.

Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: Kiwi_Roy on March 12, 2019, 06:11:59 PM
As far as the Kevlar goes. We did an experience a few years ago on 10 year old class 2 bullet proof vest that had been worn daily for 10 years. We shot several with a variety of handgun calibers and types of ammo. Every vest stopped every round with at least half the layers had not been penetrated. Stuff last for years I reckon.

I have to ask
How did you talk your wife into that?
Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: Pizza Guzzi on March 12, 2019, 07:54:59 PM
Oh I suspect she wasn't completely reluctant to squeeze the trigger  :boozing:
Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: Nic in Western NYS on March 13, 2019, 05:09:08 AM
Had mine for 12 years or so, holding up great.  I recall previous discussions about them doing better in abrasion protection if worn with silk(?) longjohns underneath.
Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: Texas Turnip on March 13, 2019, 07:02:15 AM
Round House bib overalls are made in Oklahoma. Tough! I wear the stripes if I'm going to town and need to impress someone. The plain blue are OK for working around the Oleo Ranch. Lots of pockets. You can undo the side bottoms when it gets warm in the summer.
Tex
Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: troyhamilton on March 14, 2019, 05:00:01 AM
I love Oklahoma, but how are they in a crash?...
Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: Seventy One on March 18, 2019, 09:21:49 PM
I've got three pairs of 'em. Last pair I bought was 3 years ago. Apparently they doubled in price since then. I would look for something else at this price.

I like 'em but the armor is small and doesn't stay in place. It literally came with little pieces of (hook) Velcro you were supposed to attach to the pads. This would then cling to the Kevlar inside the knees. 

I went with Forcefield "Limb Tubes" for my knees and really, really like them. They wrap around your knee, are CE2 rated, stay in place and are comfortable enough to walk around in all day.

My Draggin' Jeans faded to white across my lap after just 3 seasons. I wash them frequently because it's the nature of cotton to absorb odors, gravel dust, bugs, etc. In farm country I have all of that in abundance. Because of this I would not tour in them. For that I prefer my Aerostich Dariens.
Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: Sheepdog on March 20, 2019, 12:15:15 PM
I agree. Kevlar jeans are okay locally, but I use sturdier armored textile riding pants when traveling. The added protection and water resistance make up for the way you look in a restaurant.
Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: Lcarlson on March 20, 2019, 01:44:56 PM
It appears that there are now two separate manufacturers using the Draggin Jeans name. The Australian product is substantially more expensive:

https://dragginjeans.net/

https://www.dragginjeans.com/

Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: Ncdan on March 20, 2019, 01:49:44 PM
Anyone outgrown a pair of the draggin jeans and want to sell them. I wear 32-33 waist and 32-34 length??
Title: Re: who has draggin jeans ?
Post by: kingoffleece on March 21, 2019, 09:31:46 AM
I have some that I hardly used.  I prefer Diamond Gusset Defender jeans with Bohn under them.
I'll look in my shop if you're interested.  I may even still have the knee armour.

PM me if you're interested.  If not, no worries.