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Title: VIN locations for US model 1975 850t?
Post by: NCAmother on March 28, 2023, 11:50:02 AM

The vin plate on my 1975 850t shows signs of tampering including removal and replacement of the plate.  Where are the motor and frame numbers located?  This is a US model thanks

Title: Re: VIN locations for US model 1975 850t?
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on March 28, 2023, 12:00:16 PM

The engine number is stamped into the case near the fill plug/dipstick. There is no number stamped into the frame on US market bikes.

Title: Re: VIN locations for US model 1975 850t?
Post by: NCAmother on March 28, 2023, 12:06:08 PM

Quote from: Antietam Classic Cycle on March 28, 2023, 12:00:16 PM

The engine number is stamped into the case near the fill plug/dipstick. There is no number stamped into the frame on US market bikes.

Thanks!

Title: Re: VIN locations for US model 1975 850t?
Post by: Turin on March 28, 2023, 10:02:56 PM

I have a 1975 850T (with filter) with DGM 12504 0M stamped into the frame. What is that #?

(https://i.ibb.co/Cmpp77j/850-T-Vin-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Cmpp77j)


metal vin tag matches engine

(https://i.ibb.co/ZNRBzdV/850-T-Vin.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZNRBzdV)

Title: Re: VIN locations for US model 1975 850t?
Post by: 73 sport on March 28, 2023, 10:11:12 PM

  Turin, please depict your frame tag full on so we can see the numbers.

Title: Re: VIN locations for US model 1975 850t?
Post by: Turin on March 29, 2023, 12:13:53 AM

here you go. the vin plate got a little messed up when I powdercoated the frame.
(https://i.ibb.co/qB7XhvV/850-T-Vin-4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qB7XhvV)

Title: Re: VIN locations for US model 1975 850t?
Post by: guido guzzi on March 29, 2023, 06:54:17 AM

Quote from: Turin on March 28, 2023, 10:02:56 PM

I have a 1975 850T (with filter) with DGM 12504 0M stamped into the frame. What is that #?

(https://i.ibb.co/Cmpp77j/850-T-Vin-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Cmpp77j)


metal vin tag matches engine

(https://i.ibb.co/ZNRBzdV/850-T-Vin.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZNRBzdV)

The DGM number is Guzzi's internal ID or part number for that frame type.

Title: Re: VIN locations for US model 1975 850t?
Post by: Dave Swanson on March 29, 2023, 10:11:25 AM

Quote from: guido guzzi on March 29, 2023, 06:54:17 AM

The DGM number is Guzzi's internal ID or part number for that frame type.

Correct.  I have seen 2 V7 Sports titled with a "VIN" using the DGM part number in error.  I gently tried to educate a seller that he should have his VIN corrected before selling to avoid future repercussions and he threatened to send Guido to silence me.   :violent1:

Title: Re: VIN locations for US model 1975 850t?
Post by: 73 sport on March 29, 2023, 07:15:45 PM

    NHTSA has required all vehicles mfg ed since 1981 to have 17 digit VIN numbers. Prior to "81 there was no VIN standard. Many foreign manufacturers used anything they wanted, usually a number stamped on the engine.

Title: Re: VIN locations for US model 1975 850t?
Post by: Cal3Me on March 30, 2023, 01:05:46 AM

FYI,,,,,, I recently applied for a bonded title here in Illinois because the bike didn't have a title. I had the Ill. State police inspect the bike too and they wrote the engine number on the inspection report to be used as the VIN #, got all my paperwork together mailed it in and then was told by the Secretary of State in Springfield, Ill in the bonded title  dept. that they want the frame number to be used because you can always change out the motor so I had to resubmit all the paperwork again.  Got my new title in the mail today ,,,,  :thumb: