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Title: Original paint white 850t, cl,
Post by: chuck peterson on June 26, 2019, 07:33:41 AM
W gold and red stripes...how did that paint survive? What would you pay to redo that paint if you could find the gold stripes, right?

https://worcester.craigslist.org/mcy/d/ware-trade-1975-moto-guzzi-850t/6907919447.html
(https://i.ibb.co/3Ck268m/A8-AB70-CA-09-EB-4296-A104-E19-F86-C6-D399.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3Ck268m)

(https://i.ibb.co/71FjRNP/A9713684-C204-4-A35-B0-E7-21-BBB8-AD936-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/71FjRNP)

(https://i.ibb.co/55TsGJz/C2-FCE483-2107-4872-B5-DE-A6-B51-AA15490.jpg) (https://ibb.co/55TsGJz)
Title: Re: Original paint white 850t, cl,
Post by: jwinwi on June 26, 2019, 08:11:04 AM
Not sure if the T's stripes were the same as the T3's and Convert's but MG has 'em: http://www.mgcycle.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=42&products_id=5168
Title: Re: Original paint white 850t, cl,
Post by: guzzista on June 26, 2019, 11:12:05 AM
Original paint? red and gold stripes? I may have been living under a rock but I don't think white was a color option for the 850T.
Root beer Brown , Black ( owned  one of each ) and a couple other colors for  bikes sold in other countries.  The gold stripes may have been added as they clash with the red pinstripes ? And then there is the elephant in the room not mentioned  by the very descriptive seller ( chrome bores)..... as they say back in my old neighborhood: fuggedaboutit !
Title: Re: Original paint white 850t, cl,
Post by: bigbikerrick on June 26, 2019, 01:42:23 PM
I dont think that is original paint/stripes. The tape stripes Guzzi used on the tonti tanks follow the contours of the tank much nicer.
Rick.
Title: Re: Original paint white 850t, cl,
Post by: Testarossa on June 26, 2019, 01:49:35 PM
Naked alternator. Chrome bores?  This is still a project, not a bike.
Title: Re: Original paint white 850t, cl,
Post by: steven c on June 26, 2019, 05:55:06 PM
When I bought my 74 T in 78 it had been repainted the the seat was recovered but back then I just figured it was an old bike.
Title: Re: Original paint white 850t, cl,
Post by: Jake on June 27, 2019, 12:14:02 AM
Mine was root-beer brown with some gold striping.  It's white now, though.  Haven't seen many other colors that are stock.
Title: Re: Original paint white 850t, cl,
Post by: Tom on June 27, 2019, 06:08:46 PM
I'm with the majority.  IIRC, no white with those pinstripes as oem.
Title: Re: Original paint white 850t, cl,
Post by: Tomkinney on February 18, 2023, 01:18:58 PM
Hi,  just joined the forum and was looking at some posts and came across this thread.  I bought this bike and am almost done witha restoration.  Im pretty sure the paint is original
Title: Re: Original paint white 850t, cl,
Post by: fotoguzzi on February 18, 2023, 02:12:56 PM
Good for you Tom. Glad you’re here and have that nice bike almost done. My first Guzzi was an 850T back in 1977. Have you looked at the paint in the channel on bottom of tank and inside of the side covers? I do think it could be original just that rare that no one has seen it before. They did a lot of weird stuff back then.

My buddy Dan Dettman, RIP

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Foto/i-Rhg4QFn/0/49ed961c/L/068_1-L.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/Foto/i-Rhg4QFn/A)
Title: Re: Original paint white 850t, cl,
Post by: guzzisteve on February 18, 2023, 02:44:51 PM
Here's a pic of my brand new 75 in Sept 76


(https://i.ibb.co/BqCD5Dy/MG-850-T-new-001.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BqCD5Dy)
Title: Re: Original paint white 850t, cl,
Post by: TOMB on February 18, 2023, 06:53:37 PM
I just checked the parts book for the 850T (Greg Bender)

Colors are.

Red

Black

Brown

But other countries may have different colors available.

TOMB
Title: Re: Original paint white 850t, cl,
Post by: frozengoose on February 18, 2023, 09:24:12 PM
Here's a couple of photos from brochures. Looks like all gold stripes. My T was pong brown (as described by Cycle World) when I bought it, but don't have any pictures to show the stripes. I'd bet the white one was repainted, but who's to say.


(https://i.ibb.co/1Zjdx1J/MOTOGUZZI850-T-1884-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1Zjdx1J)

(https://i.ibb.co/z8kdd47/Moto-Guzzi-850-T.jpg) (https://ibb.co/z8kdd47)
Title: Re: Original paint white 850t, cl,
Post by: fotoguzzi on February 18, 2023, 10:02:17 PM
well they did offer white in 1974.. meaningless i know.

(https://i.ibb.co/Xsvf9tJ/images-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Xsvf9tJ)

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Title: Re: Original paint white 850t, cl,
Post by: Matt Story on February 19, 2023, 06:47:18 PM
I carefully documented my stock 850-T stripes before I refinished my tank.  I have a vinyl cutter and as such, I reverse engineered the strip geometry to duplicate the factory stripes.  These pics show my measurements.


(https://i.ibb.co/JK3WCT4/IMAG0808.jpg) (https://ibb.co/JK3WCT4)

(https://i.ibb.co/jRQRcBW/IMAG0809.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jRQRcBW)

(https://i.ibb.co/BB2wqM2/IMAG0810.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BB2wqM2)

(https://i.ibb.co/CQ9jYS7/IMAG0813.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CQ9jYS7)
Title: Re: Original paint white 850t, cl,
Post by: Matt Story on February 19, 2023, 06:54:12 PM
The stripe along the bottom edge of the tank is straight visually, but since it is applied to an irregular surface, the stripe is not straight in the flat. 

If someone should want a set, I'll cut them for cost.  IM me if interested, or if you just want the graphic.

I'm looking for some pics of the end result to post
Title: Re: Original paint white 850t, cl,
Post by: Tomkinney on March 09, 2023, 09:45:23 AM
Hi All,  i bought this bike and as previously mentioned am almost finished with it. Just
(https://i.ibb.co/q5V0dfr/967836-E9-0-AAD-491-E-A87-B-3-C5-EB0881-DC6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/q5V0dfr)

(https://i.ibb.co/8Y5xP76/9-D02-F070-7524-45-EC-A741-1-FE4-C0258-C72.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8Y5xP76)

(https://i.ibb.co/2c0H8Fk/6727211-C-16-DE-4463-8-A33-CF780590-B771.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2c0H8Fk)
waiting for the tank and side covers to come back from paint.  I have researched the color and as several have mentioned this may nnot be an original color.  On the otherhand,  ive feathered the pain back in a few places and can see no evidence of another color underneath.  Of course this could mean that all the previous paint was removed before the white was applied,  but underneath the tank and inside the side covers its all white,  so who knows.  I do have decent documentation and traced it back to the original owner who has since passed away but i plan to speak with his son to see if he can verify the original color.  Thanks for the comments and this is a great site,  ive learned a lot. Im posting a pic of the bike for your amusement.  Any questions, please ask away
Title: Re: Original paint white 850t, cl,
Post by: guzzisteve on March 09, 2023, 09:56:36 AM
The bottom paint and inside of covers is white primer, is what they used for darker colors, so they could see how they are painting.
They did have Black & white police models.