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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Huzo on June 24, 2020, 03:58:33 AM
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You’d think that at the tender age of 7 months the V85 would still have a youthful look, but I’ve not been a huge fan of the predominance of black spread all over the bike.
So to that end and buoyed by Beetle’s photo shop image..
(https://i.ibb.co/cyQwW5t/599-D16-FB-42-C1-4132-8-E68-8440-C35-D1-D28.png) (https://ibb.co/cyQwW5t)
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I have embarked on the work required.
The rims are being polished professionally and I’m doing the other stuff myself. I’ve started by applying paint stripper and it’s lifting the black ok, that’ll be followed by a thorough clean and be re done in silver the same colour as the foot peg brackets.
Here’s the carnage so far..
(https://i.ibb.co/9VWnk67/05065-E7-A-3-A6-E-4-C96-AF46-A56724216343.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9VWnk67)
(https://i.ibb.co/0Y2TfND/9-F123875-4-F76-4-C65-885-C-0501-B4515078.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0Y2TfND)
(https://i.ibb.co/zZmjRYq/F47-ADECA-2060-43-E7-922-A-C45561-C70342.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zZmjRYq)
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If this comes out half as sweet as your Norge handiwork, you've got another beauty on your hands!
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I didn't think Australia has much of a winter that forces one to stay inside for a few months doing those types of projects. :thumb:
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If this comes out half as sweet as your Norge handiwork, you've got another beauty on your hands!
Thanks mate, it should be fun.
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Spent most of today paint stripping and wire brushing. As well as removing bits for the electroplater.
(https://i.ibb.co/hHFNmrp/4-B675127-23-F6-4-E9-B-9-BC4-9-B077-CD2760-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hHFNmrp)
(https://i.ibb.co/QpY8Tcj/1-B2-F823-B-FC76-4-F18-8-B97-6-EC72-E62-F215.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QpY8Tcj)
(https://i.ibb.co/QmtdVBg/4-E9743-DC-5-C2-E-4324-8114-672-B6787036-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QmtdVBg)
(https://i.ibb.co/94DxxMv/90-C4-C688-C8-A3-4-A67-986-F-C637-AF957-B4-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/94DxxMv)
(https://i.ibb.co/SdjfYBL/4-DB490-BE-55-C9-474-F-A32-D-4143-E9-C9-DFCD.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SdjfYBL)
(https://i.ibb.co/qjrQr6n/0-D9-CF274-3-B3-D-4-EA1-99-A4-A9-E62-E4-D6661.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qjrQr6n)
https://youtu.be/61cMv3sv8lM
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I commend you for your effort. The hub really cleaned up nice! I think the bike will look great when you're finished. Much more than I would be willing to do. :popcorn:
John Henry
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I commend you for your effort. The hub really cleaned up nice! I think the bike will look great when you're finished. Much more than I would be willing to do. :popcorn:
John Henry
It’ll just drive me (more) mad if I don’t...
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Huzo, you are out of your gourd!
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Huzo, you are out of your gourd!
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Wow, working fast! I'm sure it'll turn out great (but still want to see pictures) :thumb:
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That means he thinks you're a bit nutty. I may agree :laugh:
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Peter
it will indeed be a class act when finished. Can't wait to see it completed.
Mark
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Peter
it will indeed be a class act when finished. Can't wait to see it completed.
Mark
i don’t know why they painted so much black from the start.
They may have been looking to emulate the Multistrada and such..
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That means he thinks you're a bit nutty. I may agree :laugh:
Wah Moho...(In a Southern Belle accent)
You flatter me Sir....! :kiss:
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Good on-ya!
I bought one of those ugly as sin racer thingies. The entire charade leaks me off. You have shown me yours. I'll try to show you mine - personally. Luddite only, spoken here.
Good looking wheels; wires especially, looking like jewelry is the ****, if you don't leave town. Otherwise on cast wheels color, carefully chosen, is durable and glare free.
As always, you're fun to watch. Good fortune, R3~
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You realize you will need a polished Aluminium Tail Tidy to go with that.
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You realize you will need a polished Aluminium Tail Tidy to go with that.
Hmmm.
My partner reckons my tail is passable...(for my age..)
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Rear hub ready for paint, swingarm not far to go.
(https://i.ibb.co/dJcj2yr/2940-B395-2622-49-CD-AA06-5076-D64-C2-DA9.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dJcj2yr)
(https://i.ibb.co/LZhNn6h/8-F8-DDB11-CB16-4755-9-AE5-53799-D1576-EF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LZhNn6h)
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Nice! I'm particularly partial to shiny things. :thumb:
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As nice as those pieces look without paint, one might think thay ought to have left them alone in the first place. :bow:
Looking forward to seeing the finished product.
John Henry
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Nice! I'm particularly partial to shiny things. :thumb:
Oh dear me.... :embarrassed:
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As nice as those pieces look without paint, one might think thay ought to have left them alone in the first place. :bow:
Looking forward to seeing the finished product.
John Henry
I cannot understand why they went with the black.
Would you tear the silver off this and do it in black ?
(https://i.ibb.co/rF7QgzW/3213-AB62-9-FCF-4-FFD-82-AB-30-D57867-A01-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rF7QgzW)
Or this ?
(https://i.ibb.co/wwXLZn9/030-EA756-F2-A2-4-C38-9628-A40-E7449-C8-DB.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wwXLZn9)
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I cannot understand why they went with the black.
Would you tear the silver off this and do it in black ?
(https://i.ibb.co/rF7QgzW/3213-AB62-9-FCF-4-FFD-82-AB-30-D57867-A01-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rF7QgzW)
Or this ?
(https://i.ibb.co/wwXLZn9/030-EA756-F2-A2-4-C38-9628-A40-E7449-C8-DB.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wwXLZn9)
Personally yes, but that's because I don't chrome/silver and definitely don't have a wire wheel fetish.
Having said that, I think you are doing the right thing by modifying your bike to suit your taste. Well done and as someone noted above - you're fun to watch.
Cheers
Steve
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I like spokes myself. Back in '82 I ordered my BMW Boxer CS with the (rare & expensive) spoked wheels. So glad I did. BMW's cast wheels were made with an aluminium/cheese alloy mix in those days, & were pretty awful when used as a tourer. Two of my fellow Boxer riding mates ended up damaging 3 alloy fronts between them on highway potholes. I dented a K100RS alloy rear too.
The rims around my 38 year old spoked wheels are still - to this day - pristine & damage-free. I put it down to maybe the cushioning effect of the spokes on impact: i.e. impact force is tranferred away from the solid rim to the more insubtantial spokes, whereas the full impact is absorbed by the rim of cast wheels.
In the same way, I still think I prefer steel sunraysia-style wheels on offroaders (cars, utes, landrovers etc.) to alloys for the same reason. Steel, too, seems more flexible yet resilient than alloy. As an aside, many steel wheels are actually lighter than the thicker sectioned alloy wheels usually fitted to offroaders too. We're not talking about mareshini magnesium racing wheels here, but just el cheapo OEM crap standard fitting alloys.
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Spent most of today paint stripping and wire brushing. As well as removing bits for the electroplater.
(https://i.ibb.co/hHFNmrp/4-B675127-23-F6-4-E9-B-9-BC4-9-B077-CD2760-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hHFNmrp)
(https://i.ibb.co/QpY8Tcj/1-B2-F823-B-FC76-4-F18-8-B97-6-EC72-E62-F215.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QpY8Tcj)
(https://i.ibb.co/QmtdVBg/4-E9743-DC-5-C2-E-4324-8114-672-B6787036-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QmtdVBg)
(https://i.ibb.co/94DxxMv/90-C4-C688-C8-A3-4-A67-986-F-C637-AF957-B4-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/94DxxMv)
(https://i.ibb.co/SdjfYBL/4-DB490-BE-55-C9-474-F-A32-D-4143-E9-C9-DFCD.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SdjfYBL)
(https://i.ibb.co/qjrQr6n/0-D9-CF274-3-B3-D-4-EA1-99-A4-A9-E62-E4-D6661.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qjrQr6n)
https://youtu.be/61cMv3sv8lM
I wish you luck electroplating (I assume you mean Anodising) anything that's cast in this country. last time I tried we didn't have the technology. You can do it but it turns out with a horrible powdery finish and looks awful. The Europeans know how as can be seen on Brembo cast brake calipers and master cylinders, but here not the last time I tried.
Ciao
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Baked enamel then?
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Quite the project Huzo. Could I impose on you to take a picture of the swingarm pins and the bearings in the transmission where the swingarm attaches? My V85 is squeaking and I think I need to remove the swingarm and grease those bearings but looking at the manual I can't quite figure out what is what. I took the arm off my V7 a few years ago and it had a similar setup and I remember measuring the distance the pin was inserted into the transmission so that the swingarm was centered but after that I cannot recall much.
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Quite the project Huzo. Could I impose on you to take a picture of the swingarm pins and the bearings in the transmission where the swingarm attaches? My V85 is squeaking and I think I need to remove the swingarm and grease those bearings but looking at the manual I can't quite figure out what is what. I took the arm off my V7 a few years ago and it had a similar setup and I remember measuring the distance the pin was inserted into the transmission so that the swingarm was centered but after that I cannot recall much.
I will do that when I get up.
Currently 5 am here.
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Baked enamel then?
Powder coat or 2 pack would be the go, depends on how much you want to strip it down.Powder coat uses quite high heat which is debatable for aluminium and rubber seals. having said that people powder coat alloy wheels and I believe they use a lower temp powder. The OP needs to discuss with a powder coater. The other option is wet bead blast and then a clear coat.
Ciao
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There may be some residual confusion sloshing around in the bilges.
There was never any intention of electroplating the wheel centrestand and swingarm bits, they will be two packed or baked enamel silver like the frames on the GS series Beemers.
The absolute colour I want is this, a blending in of the foot peg mount theme.
(https://i.ibb.co/5k7C39j/8-E027786-2905-45-CF-9619-77-E3-E7-A981-A4.png) (https://ibb.co/5k7C39j)
The electroplating will be for the rear top case rack
(https://i.ibb.co/Bt2Zd3G/85-B1404-E-D245-4-A12-B672-08-DBD1797-BF3.png) (https://ibb.co/Bt2Zd3G)
and engine protection crash bars, they will be satin Nickel if I can get it but not chrome.
I got a bit of a scare the other day when I added up what this bike owes me...
About $27,000 conservatively...(probably more..) :rolleyes:
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Quite the project Huzo. Could I impose on you to take a picture of the swingarm pins and the bearings in the transmission where the swingarm attaches? My V85 is squeaking and I think I need to remove the swingarm and grease those bearings but looking at the manual I can't quite figure out what is what. I took the arm off my V7 a few years ago and it had a similar setup and I remember measuring the distance the pin was inserted into the transmission so that the swingarm was centered but after that I cannot recall much.
Ok mate..
I took the shots but have selfishly been out on the Norge today, but here they are.
You’ll notice that the pin on the right hand (brake pedal) side is different than the left (gear change side)
(https://i.ibb.co/GVMjpH7/91-B4-BF07-7-BE3-4236-8-F16-826-D4-A46-F04-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/GVMjpH7)<br /
The right hand one winds in and terminates against an abutment and at this point the spigot is fully engaged in the race.
The left side winds in by means of an Allen key and is nipped up by hand against the race.
The lock nut is the wound on over the head of the pin and that’s it..!
(https://i.ibb.co/3cH56jQ/D7-F81-C02-4-ADD-4-D0-C-BFA7-5-A6-DA2-EB0-C1-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3cH56jQ)
(https://i.ibb.co/vJ0JySD/4-B80-F74-A-3-AD0-40-CD-A4-C0-4-FEA85-A4-CDC1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vJ0JySD)
If you need a shot of the races ,I’ll get you one in the morning
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Thanks for the pictures, seems a bit different than the V7 setup but not by much. Looking at the diagrams the bearings are sealed types and I'm not sure where my squeak is coming from or if greasing those pins would solve the issue. I have the bike on the table and will remove the rear wheel and shock which should allow me to move the swingarm up and down and get a sense of how the bearings are holding up.
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Personally yes, but that's because I don't chrome/silver and definitely don't have a wire wheel fetish.
Having said that, I think you are doing the right thing by modifying your bike to suit your taste. Well done and as someone noted above - you're fun to watch.
Cheers
Steve
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Tomorrow is the beginning of the wheel relacing.
The rear is 2-2 pattern like the Norge so will be relatively easy to achieve.
(https://i.ibb.co/hXnCfCp/9-DC524-A6-C353-44-F2-B4-BB-3-A63-DB142966.png) (https://ibb.co/hXnCfCp)
hd online 2 (https://imgbb.com/)
The hubs have their top coat on and are baking, so should be as hard as the proverbial by morning..
(https://i.ibb.co/bHCPPSP/E5714632-B7-D4-4-D0-C-B957-38-ED4-F3-B0-E01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bHCPPSP)
Can’t wait...!
Also first coat of etch primer on the swingarm-bevelbox and other paraphernalia.
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Are you going to make the wheels tubeless?
I got good results from Sikaflex 291 Marine sealant.
But I only paid $11 for the regular size tube, I think they may have screwed up and charged the same price as the small toothpaste size.
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Are you going to make the wheels tubeless?
I got good results from Sikaflex 291 Marine sealant.
But I only paid $11 for the regular size tube, I think they may have screwed up and charged the same price as the small toothpaste size.
Yes mate tubeless it is.
There are 2 new Pilot 5’s to go on. Thanx for the info on the sealant, I was unsure of the best direction there.. :thumb:
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Got a bit done today.
The silver is in progress but I ran out before completing the bevelbox. Got to here on the wheels so will start truing them tomorrow.
Here they are.
(https://i.ibb.co/LnhJmp8/F1-B70818-9-D18-4916-84-DC-1-A681-C6096-CD.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LnhJmp8)
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Dang, Looking good! :thumb: :bow:
John Henry
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Dang, Looking good! :thumb: :bow:
John Henry
I think it will come out ok..
If I find a Termignoni or Akropovic muffler under the bed, I’ll probably throw that on too. You never know what’s under there... :wink:
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About to start on the wheels when I get back from Adelaide.
Here is the scene of destruction thus far
(https://i.ibb.co/kSvL713/F8-F62-FB6-E797-4-A0-D-9-C29-2632562475-F2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kSvL713)
(https://i.ibb.co/smNw7hd/7-FC122-FA-0-FB7-47-D1-80-AB-D62-FF98-DF7-DE.jpg) (https://ibb.co/smNw7hd)
(https://i.ibb.co/WxjC80q/EC9724-FA-40-F2-40-EE-AC68-F0-F5017-A56-C4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WxjC80q)
(https://i.ibb.co/BnjtWQg/273960-DB-8358-48-EA-9-EA9-9069-A0-D5-E781.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BnjtWQg)
435i 0 60 (https://statewideinventory.org/bmw-0-60-times)
The bevelbox would be on, but I didn’t buy enough paint... :embarrassed:
Old mate Baz will do it for me tomorrow... :thumb:
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We are waiting ... :grin: :popcorn:
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So am I mate..
I am returning from an interstate trip in the truck and have not been able to get my grubby paws onto the job. The bevelbox is done now and will be fitted today and I will start to true the wheels. I have the Sikaflex 291 for spoke sealing and the new Pilot 5’s.
The plastic fork guards in the front will get some attention too.
I’m as toey as a Roman sandal...
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GT or trail rd 5?
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I got nothing to add....except here to enjoy your nutty-ness of a great job! :boozing: :popcorn: :thumb:
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GT or trail rd 5?
I asked for Pilot Road 5’s and haven’t looked at them yet.
They have road tread.
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Looking good, if only the engine was silver too... :smiley:
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Looking good, if only the engine was silver too... :smiley:
I initially thought to do that, but felt that it was a bridge too far.
I would not rule out dropping the sump and doing that the same silver as the other cycle parts.
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Nice! I'm particularly partial to shiny things. :thumb:
I just know if I read that comment too many times, I’m bound to say something.....”nutty”... :wink:
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If I could get out of this damn truck and get home, I’d have the V85 back together and be truing the wheels.
Gone all week, currently country NSW en route to Melbourne.
Here’s the last bit painted.
(https://i.ibb.co/VBhHBD6/75-FC3576-AD12-48-B0-A85-A-F58-BAB91-D92-A.png) (https://ibb.co/VBhHBD6)
CANNOT WAIT to get those wheels done and on.... :thumb:
These things are in for some treatment..
(https://i.ibb.co/9qWdhct/9-D82-BA14-6913-42-A9-9-AD4-567-A14-D35-E98.png) (https://ibb.co/9qWdhct)
Either they will be removed completely, remade in stainless or colour matched red or Green/White/Red like these...
(https://i.ibb.co/pb9wYLC/9-FC1-A954-6-A51-494-B-80-FF-7-B729-B7-F926-C.png) (https://ibb.co/pb9wYLC)
I do have the Aprillia Caponord front guard which is a bolt on job, but the jury is out on that at this stage.... :clock:
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Progress...
(https://i.ibb.co/vZTfVWP/1-D9068-FB-B459-4-C2-C-A22-C-847-C9045-DBC7.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vZTfVWP)
(https://i.ibb.co/Zc13rBr/DF8-F34-D0-7-F97-4-AF3-A1-FB-D444-B57569-BC.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Zc13rBr)
(https://i.ibb.co/02C4j2M/5-BFF907-A-CDD6-4-FB3-8437-747792-BCD59-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/02C4j2M)
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Moving right along..
The work on the frame and rear end is fundamentally finished. Today I assembled and trued the wheels.
Here’s the front one. https://youtu.be/2wr_DtvE8z8
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:thumb: Looking foward to the final result.
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So am I mate..
I had high hopes to have the wheels back into the ‘85 this weekend but have not managed to. The wheels are trued and tyres fitted, but my compressor did not have the pressure/flow to inflate the tyres. There is a gap between the tyre and inside of the rim that usually flexes out enough for initial inflation but my setup was found wanting.
Tomorrow I’ll get them inflated, then balance and re fit.
The Sikaflex 291 did a great job sealing the spokes so cautious optimism there.
Here they are anyway.
(https://i.ibb.co/1LkXmqY/59-EB0922-FBDF-4-FF2-8139-2-DC14018904-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1LkXmqY)
(https://i.ibb.co/wYG0VN6/616-B12-DF-A34-E-4-A0-B-A9-DB-2-B95201335-A6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wYG0VN6)
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. . . I added up what this bike owes me . . .
No matter what I spend on my Stelvio, it'll never owe me a Penny.
It pays it all back in spades the second I let the Clutch out, every single time!! :thumb:
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No matter what I spend on my Stelvio, it'll never owe me a Penny.
It pays it all back in spades the second I let the Clutch out, every single time!! :thumb:
Yes John.
I didn’t mean it that way but your point is valid, I feel the same about my Norge.
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27 grand eh....
Not hard to do when the starting price is near 22 grand, luggage 3 grand, centre stand 200, heated grips near 600 etc, etc
Doesnt do the heart any good to add it all up, (says he who has a complete log of every cent spent on the mk 3 lemans since aug 87 and over 333,000 km)
Looking forward to see how this looks when you are finished.
Cheers
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27 grand eh....
Not hard to do when the starting price is near 22 grand, luggage 3 grand, centre stand 200, heated grips near 600 etc, etc
Doesnt do the heart any good to add it all up, (says he who has a complete log of every cent spent on the mk 3 lemans since aug 87 and over 333,000 km)
Looking forward to see how this looks when you are finished.
Cheers
Yeah ...
I think it’s closer to 29.....
Luggage, stand, engine bars $4,000
Mandrel bent exhaust. $1,000
Ohlins rear shock. $2,000
Wheels. $700
GPS. $500
Nickel plating. $300
All for a good cause though.... :rolleyes:
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Yes John.
I didn’t mean it that way but your point is valid, I feel the same about my Norge.
Yeah, I knew!
Norge, but what about the V85?
Have you not reached that stage with it yet? :laugh:
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So am I mate..
I had high hopes to have the wheels back into the ‘85 this weekend but have not managed to. The wheels are trued and tyres fitted, but my compressor did not have the pressure/flow to inflate the tyres. There is a gap between the tyre and inside of the rim that usually flexes out enough for initial inflation but my setup was found wanting.
Buy tyre fitting lube, cheap from any auto place, makes world of difference
And remove valve before trying to seat bead, the valve is big restriction to flow
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I asked for Pilot Road 5’s and haven’t looked at them yet.
They have road tread.
I believe both are street tread. The difference is whether they fit sport touring or adventure bikes.
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Yeah, I knew!
Norge, but what about the V85?
Have you not reached that stage with it yet? :laugh:
Not yet but there’s nothing wrong at all with it. The V85 is “good at what it does” but not “lovely”.
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Buy tyre fitting lube, cheap from any auto place, makes world of difference
And remove valve before trying to seat bead, the valve is big restriction to flow
Thanks mate, I’ll follow that advice.. :bow: :thumb:
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Thanks mate, I’ll follow that advice.. :bow: :thumb:
Another thing I've found helpful on stubborn tires is to make sure the rim isn't pressing down on the tire as you try to inflate it, confusing I know but what I try to do is lift up the wheel while adding air, this seems to center the tire on the rim and less air escapes out of the sides thus allowing the tire to seat on the wheel bead. Does work for me. Oh and I use RU Glyde as a tire lubricant for mounting, found in local auto part stores here in the U.S. maybe they have similar down under. This stuff also works as a rubber protectent as well.
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Another thing I've found helpful on stubborn tires is to make sure the rim isn't pressing down on the tire as you try to inflate it, confusing I know but what I try to do is lift up the wheel while adding air, this seems to center the tire on the rim and less air escapes out of the sides thus allowing the tire to seat on the wheel bead. Does work for me. Oh and I use RU Glyde as a tire lubricant for mounting, found in local auto part stores here in the U.S. maybe they have similar down under. This stuff also works as a rubber protectent as well.
Again thank you all for your input, I will take heed.
This front tyre almost closes together when off the rim and given that the rim is not very wide on the front, there is a consequently large gap when deflated.
Unlike the Norge rear, where the bead is pressing against the rim prior to inflation. It will be ok though, when I get back home, I’ll add the lube and use the truck compressor at work.. :thumb:
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Interesting. So in theory if you get a flat in the boondocks & inadvertently break a bead, you might become stranded despite having a low-volume 12v electric pump on board.
Makes sense really. Which is possibly why the majority of dirt & "all-terrain" bikes (including the V85 of course) still use tubes.
Many ADV riders on Youtube recommend carrying a spare tube - for the largest wheel size on their bike - even on tubeless equipped bikes. Thought it was just as a temporary fix for punctured tyre carcasses, but now it's a whole lot clearer to me: a plain simple bicycle patch would fix just about any tread or sidewall puncture (but not a tear), whereas that spare tube, even if jammed into a smaller diameter wheel, becomes a fix-all for everything but the worst case scenarios.
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Interesting. So in theory if you get a flat in the boondocks & inadvertently break a bead, you might become stranded despite having a low-volume 12v electric pump on board.
Makes sense really. Which is possibly why the majority of dirt & "all-terrain" bikes (including the V85 of course) still use tubes.
Many ADV riders on Youtube recommend carrying a spare tube - for the largest wheel size on their bike - even on tubeless equipped bikes. Thought it was just as a temporary fix for punctured tyre carcasses, but now it's a whole lot clearer to me: a plain simple bicycle patch would fix just about any tread or sidewall puncture (but not a tear), whereas that spare tube, even if jammed into a smaller diameter wheel, becomes a fix-all for everything but the worst case scenarios.
That thought actually crossed my mind.
If that happens, I’ll install a tube.
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Not yet but there’s nothing wrong at all with it. The V85 is “good at what it does” but not “lovely”.
Do you think that will come with a bit more time, like all Guzzis tend to need for us to really 'Gel' with them?
If not, what do you feel is 'lacking', is it just too 'modern' maybe?
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Clearly I’ve left the impression that I don’t much like my V85, that’s not true at all..
It’s just that I love my Norge so much, I have to have a reason NOT to get it out instead of the trail bike. That reason will certainly raise it’s head when I head off to the Kimberley or Cape York etc...
The ‘85 is not “better” than the Norge anywhere on a sealed surface, but when doing off road stuff the thing/s that the trail bike can do better than the “nice one”, just happen to be rather pivotal.
Fair to say though, the cruise control on the ‘85 is really very good.
I will also admit that these sort of memories cast a pretty big shadow that the V85 has to exist in..
(https://i.ibb.co/fnHXygn/1-CBA5542-14-D7-4-C37-947-D-E025-EC0660-DB.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fnHXygn) (https://i.ibb.co/YdzXNbq/CE4-C9-CC9-5-E1-A-40-C9-B280-E918-B17924-F6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YdzXNbq) (https://i.ibb.co/TKPV4sX/EB3-DBBD9-B2-A2-43-F1-8796-D5037-DC7-D208.jpg) (https://ibb.co/TKPV4sX) (https://i.ibb.co/ryC9FkJ/3737-E145-4017-4-FD9-83-A4-2-B3-DAF23229-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ryC9FkJ) (https://i.ibb.co/82QHKDM/3-DADC3-E0-BC09-4-E14-B434-2751-EBD78-BE4.jpg) (https://ibb.co/82QHKDM) (https://i.ibb.co/L6FHdG5/5-C1-D3-D7-D-EDFB-4-ECD-9-AEF-6-E37-E9-DB5374.jpg) (https://ibb.co/L6FHdG5) (https://i.ibb.co/HV0rLtx/67-E1-BABB-C13-B-451-D-B128-C3-ADCFBC0279.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HV0rLtx) (https://i.ibb.co/xHgX9nw/69-B607-C4-E393-4613-AF2-C-BF4843-E064-B7.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xHgX9nw) (https://i.ibb.co/HdfyJkM/71-ED33-CE-AC3-A-44-FE-96-E7-2-F017-AE4-A270.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HdfyJkM) (https://i.ibb.co/d4ThmjJ/0-DE08-F1-F-C750-4221-8-AB0-7-D9-CE5381-E4-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/d4ThmjJ) (https://i.ibb.co/qRNj27D/93515-FD2-8-AED-4-AE4-A53-E-C010546-D679-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qRNj27D)
Now that’s not (only) just a display of self indulgent memory jogging, but also to indicate what the history of my Norge is compared to the V85..
If the roles were reversed, then I’d probably be extolling the virtues of the ‘85 versus the Norge.
It’s a first world problem I’ll admit and I would not sell the V85 if someone offered me what I have in it $$$ wise.
Every time I ride the Norge after a long time on the V85, the impression is the velvety feel and very long legs....
(Now there’s a metaphor if ever there was...)
The V85 feels like a temporary dalliance, the Norge feels like home...
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(Tongue in cheek)
In other words...you hate the V85, and are just prolonging the relationship because you're afraid to break up and offend the V85's feelings at this point given how much you've professed your love for it. All the farkling in the world won't change it's performance characteristics...T he breakup will happen eventually, just depends on how many issues surface in the meantime!
Perhaps it's better to try and not invest any emotions into the V85 and just treat it like a utility tool...practical, but unemotional, completely different from the Norge, which we all understand is really an extension of the soul!
...exiting stage left now. :thumb: :thumb:
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(Tongue in cheek)
In other words...you hate the V85, and are just prolonging the relationship because you're afraid to break up and offend the V85's feelings at this point given how much you've professed your love for it. All the farkling in the world won't change it's performance characteristics...T he breakup will happen eventually, just depends on how many issues surface in the meantime!
Perhaps it's better to try and not invest any emotions into the V85 and just treat it like a utility tool...practical, but unemotional, completely different from the Norge, which we all understand is really an extension of the soul!
...exiting stage left now. :thumb: :thumb:
You’re right about one thing, they are other words.
But not mine..
Again tongue in cheek,,
The V85 is like the illicit affair outside your relationship, happy to use it and a new set of clothes won’t go astray, but the facelift makes me not need to put a paper bag over her head...
There is something good happening when aboard the V85, but like the old saying goes...?
Whatever you do...DON’T LOOK DOWN...!
I just think she could be better looking as well as useful.
Also mate, I think you are attempting to bait me not not a bad job either, (clearly you are a masterbaiter..)
The V85 will NEVER be sold and I’ll have a quiet 10 grand on that.. :thumb: :thumb:..(exiting stage right) :popcorn:
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She's not a 1 bagger at all! :thumb: :thumb:
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Home at last after a week away..
I collected the nickel plated engine bars and rear rack. On they go tomorrow along with the wheels.
(https://i.ibb.co/DgfR15w/669981-F6-552-F-4-A57-9-B17-86-DF217137-D1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DgfR15w)
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:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Very good! I think if Guzzi releases such a version, they could even attract more buyers.
Now we need a "pretty" photo in a decent environment.
Of course we guys all love our garage but maybe somwhere outside in the green. :wink: :popcorn:
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Easy big guy...!
It’s 8 pm here, raining and black as a dog’s guts. Tomorrow is a tidy up and some “glamour shots”.
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Easy big guy...!
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Clearly I’ve left the impression that I don’t much like my V85, that’s not true at all . . .
No no, wasn't thinking that at all.
I'm sure it'll grow on you like the Norge, with more miles (and smiles) under it's Tyres.
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Done...!
(https://i.ibb.co/KF6qYnZ/2-BAF720-A-A5-D3-4517-A8-EB-29258-C175-C44.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KF6qYnZ)
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BELLISIMO !! :drool:
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And those outdoors glamour shots..
https://youtu.be/FwzEvQ6ndHA
(https://i.ibb.co/nLyC8zb/508-A2913-4165-4223-A32-A-42503-C91-E22-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nLyC8zb)
(https://i.ibb.co/1mYGQWK/F8275471-A694-467-C-BDAE-B908-A6714-CB1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1mYGQWK)
(https://i.ibb.co/sbn9h8n/13814451-0-BE0-4-B5-B-AAC9-5-A1-A68-FC4-C7-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sbn9h8n)
(https://i.ibb.co/9pSt4Hz/9-A74-E7-E2-9-DC3-4-CE0-A2-DB-3108-BBF5407-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9pSt4Hz)
(https://i.ibb.co/H7Sc2yp/88-FE3993-24-F6-4-C70-8352-5327-B0776-E75.jpg) (https://ibb.co/H7Sc2yp)
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Wow! That turned out great Huzo!
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Looks great, but you should be in at least one of those pics. :laugh:
Rich
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And those outdoors glamour shots..
https://youtu.be/FwzEvQ6ndHA
(https://i.ibb.co/9pSt4Hz/9-A74-E7-E2-9-DC3-4-CE0-A2-DB-3108-BBF5407-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9pSt4Hz)
Huzo, that looks great. :thumb:
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Looks great, but you should be in at least one of those pics. :laugh:
Rich
I’ve always been attention shy... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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BELLISIMO !! :drool:
Grazie... :thumb:
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Huzo, that looks great. :thumb:
A little way to go, but good so far...
Thank you.
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Impressive!
:thumb:
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If I do anything else, it will be the castings that mount the front calipers at the base of the forks..
They will be the same colour as the swingarm, to give visual balance to the contrast between black and silver.
Like in Mark’s photoshop image.
(https://i.ibb.co/cLs3bs5/4-E923-D9-B-64-CC-4517-8228-456629722306.png) (https://ibb.co/cLs3bs5)
An Akropovic or Termignoni muffler would be good.
The jury is out on this one, but the framework that mounts the instrument cluster might be nice in silver also, like the GS BMW’s....(not sure about that one though).
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You do not have time for more mods now because you will need your time to keep the wheels clean. :evil:
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You do not have time for more mods now because you will need your time to keep the wheels clean. :evil:
That’s what they said about my Norge ones.
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Looks great,Pete, magnificent job. Hope to see it in the flesh when the plague ends.
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Looks great,Pete, magnificent job. Hope to see it in the flesh when the plague ends.
Should be doable Ian..
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Looks really nice and it truly makes it yours....
Mark
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I’ve always been attention shy... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
You wanted to see my a$$.
RA
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You wanted to see my a$$.
RA
Yeah, as I said..
Happy to see yours, but too shy to show you mine. You go first... :thumb:
On a long haul flight from Heathrow to Melbourne once, the elastic in my shorts broke and they were hanging dangerously low going through customs...
The border guards were going to have me for importing crack...!
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Well, that looks fantastic!!!
You ought to send a pic of that to Guzzi so that can see what they're hiding under the black paint. Or not. You have a truly unique bike there. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
John Henry
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Sorry ,but I like the black.I have to admit you are one driven Mo Fo,great work!
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Sorry ,but I like the black.I have to admit you are one driven Mo Fo,great work!
What is a Mo Fo and is that a good thing ? :popcorn:
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Mo is short for mother and I suspect you understand the rest now.
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I like it and I agree that a bit of brightness up front would serve to balance fore and aft. How about posting before and after shots?
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Ok
(https://i.ibb.co/NF7q6N4/5-EAB8705-F282-4267-9-DF9-9-E4-CE886879-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NF7q6N4)
(https://i.ibb.co/nrrvgPs/A1-DAA89-B-A39-F-4-DBB-9-CF8-EED619-F8248-A.png) (https://ibb.co/nrrvgPs)
(https://i.ibb.co/02gZsTS/394-B482-C-97-CF-4-CB0-9-BED-B4-DE057-FDB31.jpg) (https://ibb.co/02gZsTS)
(https://i.ibb.co/9nN7DyJ/B173-B290-BF1-B-48-FA-B479-A6-FB72-B75309.png) (https://ibb.co/9nN7DyJ)
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For sure it looks better now without those goofy boxes out back :evil: Nice job Huzo, really quite the transformation! :thumb:
Paul B :boozing:
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Mo is short for mother and I suspect you understand the rest now.
Oh, I see..
Like in “Meet the Fockers”
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Very nice.
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Noticed you haven't either swapped or added the front 'guard/s yet. Weren't you getting a dark Caponord Rally one?
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Yes mate, but it hasn’t arrived yet...!
Not going to use it now anyway, I like the open mortard looking front wheel without the fork protectors. I am going to do something different about them as well.
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Makes the front of the motor terribly messy from mud, pebbles & road debris, but. Fresh wet tar would be.... just awful.
I'd imagine quite a bit of detritus will collect on top of the bash plate (if you're keeping it) on wet gravel days.
I could see a foreshortened upper mudguard - sort of a quasi duckbill - complemented with a Caponord lower acting as a '"proper" mudguard to protect the motor from gunk flung up from the tyre.
Otherwise, I agree. Having 2 full front 'guards would just look plain weird, although having a lower mudguard will necessarily detract from the "offroad" aesthetic. Nevertheless, in black it would be more discrete than in bright red, & operationally more effective.
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Makes the front of the motor terribly messy from mud, pebbles & road debris, but. Fresh wet tar would be.... just awful.
I'd imagine quite a bit of detritus will collect on top of the bash plate (if you're keeping it) on wet gravel days.
I could see a foreshortened upper mudguard - sort of a quasi duckbill - complemented with a Caponord lower acting as a '"proper" mudguard to protect the motor from gunk flung up from the tyre.
Otherwise, I agree. Having 2 full front 'guards would just look plain weird, although having a lower mudguard will necessarily detract from the "offroad" aesthetic. Nevertheless, in black it would be more discrete than in bright red, & operationally more effective.
Nothing about any of that is untrue except the bash plate.
I have removed it, but even when fitted, there is a clear eflux for any contaminants to be hosed out easily. The GS Beemers run a black guard as well as the duck bill and they tend to get away with it in the main, so I have not ruled it out completely.
(https://i.ibb.co/P6xSxfV/40408-DF4-975-F-439-F-82-F4-34745-E35-D6-A4.png) (https://ibb.co/P6xSxfV)
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D'you think it's feasible to shorten the OEM 'guard to make it into a type of de facto duckbill? Bit of a risk, I suppose... it will either look really good (after surgery with a Dremel & sander & subsequent touchup with a nail polish bottle) or really shitty!
Somewhere on the other V85 thread there's a profile photograph of an example completely missing it's upper mudguard but with a dark Aprilia lower installed.. It just doesn't look "right". As if something's missing, which of course it is...
The upper 'guard - as well as looking aggressively "offroad" - also serves the very real functional purpose (even in a vestigial form) of keeping the headlamps, air intake & rider protected from debris & mud flung up from the front tyre.
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D'you think it's feasible to shorten the OEM 'guard to make it into a type of de facto duckbill? Bit of a risk, I suppose... it will either look really good (after surgery with a Dremel & sander & subsequent touchup with a nail polish bottle) or really shitty!
Somewhere on the other V85 thread there's a profile photograph of an example completely missing it's upper mudguard but with a dark Aprilia lower installed.. It just doesn't look "right". As if something's missing, which of course it is...
The upper 'guard - as well as looking aggressively "offroad" - also serves the very real functional purpose (even in a vestigial form) of keeping the headlamps, air intake & rider protected from debris & mud flung up from the front tyre.
Your points are well made KD..
However, there’s as much chance of me taking a saw to the beak as a bull going into orbit. I will buggerise around with the black guard in addition to the beak though, the GS’ make it look ok.
(https://i.ibb.co/p3MQFdG/3-B436361-2-E21-46-BD-802-C-9-DACACB95223.png) (https://ibb.co/p3MQFdG)
Some method of stopping it soiling itself up the front of the motor is being developed..
The next thing is an Akropovic muffler and the front caliper mounts in silver..
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Just wondering.... why the Akra? There's so many nice alternatives out there. Ago's, Mistral, & my personal fave (I like both the sound & the look), Zard.
Speaking of looks, the OEM exhaust is one of the handsome-est standard cans I've seen since Ducati stopped fitting Contis. Pity about the weight, baffling & back-pressure, 'though.
If you're still going to keep the OEM muffler rather than sell it on, what about a bit of DIY surgery as an experiment or academic exercise? I had a semi-successful cannibalisation of my Aprilia's cans, removing ALL the internal plumbing & replacing it with a fiberglass fabric wrap & wadding around a perforated core.
The results were..... loud. Illegally so, despite having retained the internal catalysts. In fact, sufficiently (well, excessively & window-rattlingly actually) loud enough to make dogs run for cover, & easily-impressed pubescent teenaged boys turgid with desire, & right royally piss off the neighbours.
Not my finest hour, I must admit, but once astride & not behind there's quite a sonorous bark to them 'ol cans. There was never any legitimate excuse for not hearing me coming, despite the volume level of the latest top 40 hits on the ICE stereo of the Daewoo GCXL5, even from a mile or 2 away.
Travelling through the canyons & passes of the wilder & narrower roads of Tassie at night was truly.... epic! Kept the 'roo, possums & wombats well away from the verges too.
Still, that Guzzi can's rear appears to have a nice neat oval of Allen Screws securing its end-cap. I'd be itching to investigate...... It's in my jaded eyes one of the best looking original cans I've seen in years, veritably begging for some meddling.
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I cannot conceive of anything sounding more mellow yet tonal, as the Akrapovic.
The choice of manufacturer is not cast in stone, Termignoni would also get a second look if I came across one.
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So am I mate..
I had high hopes to have the wheels back into the ‘85 this weekend but have not managed to. The wheels are trued and tyres fitted, but my compressor did not have the pressure/flow to inflate the tyres. There is a gap between the tyre and inside of the rim that usually flexes out enough for initial inflation but my setup was found wanting.
Tomorrow I’ll get them inflated, then balance and re fit.
The Sikaflex 291 did a great job sealing the spokes so cautious optimism there.
Here they are anyway.
(https://i.ibb.co/1LkXmqY/59-EB0922-FBDF-4-FF2-8139-2-DC14018904-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1LkXmqY)
(https://i.ibb.co/wYG0VN6/616-B12-DF-A34-E-4-A0-B-A9-DB-2-B95201335-A6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wYG0VN6)
I'm sure most people know this, but sometimes removing the core from the valve stem will give you enough flow to seat the tire.
Really creative types will use a bit of lighter fluid or gasoline and light it to produce a small explosion inside the tire. Never tried it, but physics says it should work.
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Ok
(https://i.ibb.co/NF7q6N4/5-EAB8705-F282-4267-9-DF9-9-E4-CE886879-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NF7q6N4)
(https://i.ibb.co/nrrvgPs/A1-DAA89-B-A39-F-4-DBB-9-CF8-EED619-F8248-A.png) (https://ibb.co/nrrvgPs)
(https://i.ibb.co/02gZsTS/394-B482-C-97-CF-4-CB0-9-BED-B4-DE057-FDB31.jpg) (https://ibb.co/02gZsTS)
(https://i.ibb.co/9nN7DyJ/B173-B290-BF1-B-48-FA-B479-A6-FB72-B75309.png) (https://ibb.co/9nN7DyJ)
Looks great Huzo!
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Looks great Huzo!
Yes. It hasn’t changed anything meaningful, but a nice exercise in aesthetics..
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Yes. It hasn’t changed anything meaningful, but a nice exercise in aesthetics..
I think the red tank and black engine work well together. Silvering out the engine might be a bit too much. Although it would definitely make the bike look more 1970's-ish!
You might want to try a roll of duct tape first before disassembly and painting........ easy to apply, easy to strip..... don't ask!
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Regarding the caponord fender- in stock form it is still just a bit too short to prevent road debris from hitting the alternator cover. I fitted a fender extender on mine...but dang it was ugly, so I took it off and replaced it with a semi-triangular piece of neoprene. Like a mud-flap on a truck. Used rivets to affix it to the fender- now it is unobtrusive and, so far, seems to work though I haven't (and won't) take it off-road.
I can take a picture if you would like.
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Regarding the caponord fender- in stock form it is still just a bit too short to prevent road debris from hitting the alternator cover. I fitted a fender extender on mine...but dang it was ugly, so I took it off and replaced it with a semi-triangular piece of neoprene. Like a mud-flap on a truck. Used rivets to affix it to the fender- now it is unobtrusive and, so far, seems to work though I haven't (and won't) take it off-road.
I can take a picture if you would like.
Yes please !
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Let's see if this works: wide shot-
(https://i.ibb.co/HBmK9dp/IMG-5178.jpg)
Closer view of fender and fender-flap:
(https://i.ibb.co/gDkgSNk/IMG-5180.jpg)
And I also replaced the awful windscreen with this small abomination- it is simply cut and bent aluminum with a small Einstein sticker on it. For when I approach relativistic speeds. Oh, and I made new bar-ends out of stainless- sorry, they are a bit cut off:
(https://i.ibb.co/rQdK3yF/IMG-5181.jpg)
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(https://i.ibb.co/ZV4hwXZ/ACC3-C4-A7-1864-4-B12-A5-BC-6-E5-CA69-FCF4-C.png) (https://ibb.co/ZV4hwXZ)
Typical of attractive Italian types.
Looks lovely but can fly off the handle without provocation or warning...
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Let's see if this works: wide shot-
(https://i.ibb.co/HBmK9dp/IMG-5178.jpg)
Closer view of fender and fender-flap:
(https://i.ibb.co/gDkgSNk/IMG-5180.jpg)
And I also replaced the awful windscreen with this small abomination- it is simply cut and bent aluminum with a small Einstein sticker on it. For when I approach relativistic speeds. Oh, and I made new bar-ends out of stainless- sorry, they are a bit cut off:
(https://i.ibb.co/rQdK3yF/IMG-5181.jpg)
Looks good. I like the red frame with yellow/white gas tank& bodywork.
I think I would have to remove the upper white front fender just to see how it looked without it. Then maybe paint the lower fender white and add a mud flap to the front of the fender.
Hard to say if that would look better.
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You don't have the garage space Pete, remember.
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You don't have the garage space Pete, remember.
Ok mate..
I’ll give my shed a facelift... :thumb:
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Oh well, I guess I always knew this would happen.
I bought one of these today..
(https://i.ibb.co/yk2XWQw/26-E70-EB7-5-F97-4-F1-A-ACD6-852735-DBDA63.png) (https://ibb.co/yk2XWQw)
It’ll be here by the weekend.
I had planned to mount it low such that it exited just behind the rider’s foot peg and took a swoop so it passed just below the passenger ‘peg and terminated just short of the rear caliper.
(https://i.ibb.co/LS4TCTB/F9-CF5-D5-B-0-FD7-4-C80-A98-F-3114-FAE312-B7.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LS4TCTB)
I think the lines would have been very nice, but would have been prone to damage if used for it’s intended purpose.
So I said “bugger it all” and just got the Zard and will mount it as intended.
So pretty soon there’ll be a complete V85 exhaust system hanging on the wall.. :rolleyes:
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Interested to hear how you like the sound. I’ve been hesitant as I can’t stand loud pipes. I put a y pipe on mine to reduce the heat but also got the benefit of a slightly throatier exhaust note. :boozing:
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Here’s the latest..
Not much left to do, almost there.
https://youtu.be/ji_1RUDuRIg
Actually, it sounds like my mate’s J1 Auster with the Gypsy Major motor at idle.
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Looking good Huzo. All shined up & nowhere to go..... too near "the wet" to do a Cape York run, even IF they allow you Victorians loose on the rest of Australia.
Maybe winter 2021? In the meantime there's always Halls Gap, (maybe) the Flinders Ranges in Summer, Oodnadatta, Birdsville, Uluru, or Mt. Buffalo/Hotham/Falls etc. along the spine of the Southern Alps if you're still not allowed out of Victoria!
There's plenty of lovely wild miles to explore fairly close to home, without leaving the state.
I think those Zard cans are the mellowest sounding available to date for the V85. I'd still like to hear a cored modification of the standard can too. Apart from the Zard, I think it's still one of the best looking mufflers for the bike available.
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Looking good Huzo. All shined up & nowhere to go..... too near "the wet" to do a Cape York run, even IF they allow you Victorians loose on the rest of Australia.
Maybe winter 2021? In the meantime there's always Halls Gap, (maybe) the Flinders Ranges in Summer, Oodnadatta, Birdsville, Uluru, or Mt. Buffalo/Hotham/Falls etc. along the spine of the Southern Alps if you're still not allowed out of Victoria!
There's plenty of lovely wild miles to explore fairly close to home, without leaving the state.
I think those Zard cans are the mellowest sounding available to date for the V85. I'd still like to hear a cored modification of the standard can too. Apart from the Zard, I think it's still one of the best looking mufflers for the bike available.
If Italy is off the menu next year, I’m going from Cape Otway to Cape York and back on my Honda CT110.
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Back in '84 I met a couple of masochistic lads from Reggio di Calabria (deepest south Italy) @ the Austrian GP, Salzbugring . Fast-Freddie Spencer won both 250 & 500 races incidentally.
Silly buggers were just starting a return trip to Nordkapp on old Lambrettas! Those step-through postie bikes (Hondas, not Lambrettas) have a solid reputation as long-distance rides. Those hundreds (thousands?) of kms. of corrugations won't be kind to either the Honda or pilot, however. You'll need a suspension upgrade, a massage or 2 & regular Radox or Badedas baths methinks.
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Back in '84 I met a couple of masochistic lads from Reggio di Calabria (deepest south Italy) @ the Austrian GP, Salzbugring . Fast-Freddie Spencer won both 250 & 500 races incidentally.
Silly buggers were just starting a return trip to Nordkapp on old Lambrettas! Those step-through postie bikes (Hondas, not Lambrettas) have a solid reputation as long-distance rides. Those hundreds (thousands?) of kms. of corrugations won't be kind to either the Honda or pilot, however. You'll need a suspension upgrade, a massage or 2 & regular Radox or Badedas baths methinks.
I was a postie for 37 years.
(40 km a day) x (5 days a week) x (48 weeks a year) x (37 years) = 355,200 km in first and second gear delivering letters...(that’s not counting overtime..).
Piece of cake..
Also.
My round was 6 hrs. a day, and that’s after working indoors for 3 hrs.
The way I see it is as follows..
If I do 7 hrs a day seat time at an average of 70 kph, that’s just on 500 k’s a day, so a 4,000 k one way trip is 8 days. Call it ten each way and you’re laughing.
Easier than Nordkapp and I’ve done that twice from London then down to Sicily via Romania....
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Well here’s the latest..
I’ve decided I’m going with the low front guard/no beak option. I was always going to explore how to protect the front of the engine from debris from the front wheel. I have given the guard 25 mm clearance so as to be a compromise between on road/off road work.
I reckon I’ll eventually get the guard done in red with a small splash of red/white/green, or something similar.
Here’s the work so far..
(https://i.ibb.co/2tchK5g/58-E24-D15-0-EF6-4452-81-B4-6-DB20-A78301-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2tchK5g)
(https://i.ibb.co/4p2dz82/AA1-D57-ED-F15-F-455-F-AE7-F-D658-B47742-A5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4p2dz82)
The now redundant space under the headlights, will get a couple of Touratech high intensity spotlights.
(https://i.ibb.co/tKYdqQ6/E43-DBEA1-EE50-4-A07-B6-B4-D0-F337-BDC218.png) (https://ibb.co/tKYdqQ6)
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much more traditional looking without the beak. i like it. now, take off the dual head lights, replace it with a deer-hunter type 8 inch round light and add a bikini fairing. get rid of the high exhaust and add a la franconi and your conversion will be complete.
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Putting these on my new V85tt when it is ready to pick up, mounting on the crash bars. Will run through a Skene controller to make them drl's as well as spots.
https://www.stedi.com.au/25-cree-led-motorcycle-driving-spot-light.html
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Here’s the latest..
Not much left to do, almost there.
https://youtu.be/ji_1RUDuRIg
Actually, it sounds like my mate’s J1 Auster with the Gypsy Major motor at idle.
Looks great Huzo. One of the cleanest looking modern Guzzi's, or modern bikes I have seen in a long time. All the hard work paid off in a classic, simplistic look.
I imagine the aesthetics all go to Hell when you sit on the bike, but that's true for most of us. :wink:
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much more traditional looking without the beak. i like it. now, take off the dual head lights, replace it with a deer-hunter type 8 inch round light and add a bikini fairing. get rid of the high exhaust and add a la franconi and your conversion will be complete.
Good eye. Going to the low front fender looks better and screams "replace the dual headlights with a single headlight!"
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Putting these on my new V85tt when it is ready to pick up, mounting on the crash bars. Will run through a Skene controller to make them drl's as well as spots.
https://www.stedi.com.au/25-cree-led-motorcycle-driving-spot-light.html
Very interested to hear how they go... :popcorn:
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Looks great Huzo. One of the cleanest looking modern Guzzi's, or modern bikes I have seen in a long time. All the hard work paid off in a classic, simplistic look.
I imagine the aesthetics all go to Hell when you sit on the bike, but that's true for most of us. :wink:
Thank you and...Yes.
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I needed to arrange some protection for the front of the engine and thought I would have the most success with a low mounted guard.
I don’t suggest it is more attractive, but when done in red, it will begin to blend..
Before..
(https://i.ibb.co/pjKyDhn/CA16-BFBB-BE23-445-E-B970-686094-B55752.png) (https://ibb.co/pjKyDhn)
After..
(https://i.ibb.co/wcppkyF/DBD6-C6-A9-0-BFD-4-C13-BF6-B-0-CBF2-CCA660-A.png) (https://ibb.co/wcppkyF)
Walk around..
https://youtu.be/bT5mUS3_EKA
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Very nice. :thumb:
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Very nice. :thumb:
A work in progress..
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Looks great Huzo! I wanted to go a similar route with mine, but my side cases are on most of the time which takes away from the looks. I also had the Aprilia fender on mine with a 6 bulb led light mounted under the headlights, but still felt it didn’t look right and went back to the beak. I also blacked out the windscreen which helps make it disappear and hides all the mounting hardware underneath and makes the display easier to see.
I love the way you incorporated your headers into the y-pipe, really a clean look! Keep up the great work! :boozing:
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Looks great Huzo! I wanted to go a similar route with mine, but my side cases are on most of the time which takes away from the looks. I also had the Aprilia fender on mine with a 6 bulb led light mounted under the headlights, but still felt it didn’t look right and went back to the beak. I also blacked out the windscreen which helps make it disappear and hides all the mounting hardware underneath and makes the display easier to see.
I love the way you incorporated your headers into the y-pipe, really a clean look! Keep up the great work! :boozing:
Well yes..
But if I were to draw a crass comparison. Does George Clooney think Amal looks bad in a raincoat ?
He has a pretty good idea what’s underneath... :wink:
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Holy crap! I've not been able to keep up, Huso. Typical of my vintage? Your 8.5 is gorgeous, beak et. al. In my view terrific balance. Great focal points. Very classy. I've never cared for those spear like fenders. Going into battle? Another story.
I added 5" to the trailing portion of the frt. fender on the V7 IIIR, b4 paint, stripe, saddle and cast wheels. It does a fairly good job and looks good, imnsho. Love the exhaust sound. 5 cyl. radial? :)
I put no emergencies front and center. i.e. no tubes, metal fuel pump, NGK spark plug connectors, radial mc w/4 piston frt. caliper. (Brembo). I lost faith in abs years ago.
I really enjoy seeing excellent thought process, put into 3 dimensions of entertainment on 2 wheels.
Good fortune Huso. R3~
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Thanks R...
I cannot decide definitively whether to go on and complete the full transformation re front lower guard.
I now like both looks equally.
The lower guard looks nice and squat and when matched in red with a hint of green/white/red graphic, should ‘pop” like Peter North...Also the undeniable benefit of debris reduction on the front of the motor gets me engorged in an adolescent way.. :thumb:
Then there’s the beak option..
I do like the look of the fully exposed fork lowers and the splash of metal visuals without the Darth Vader staunchion protectors..If the lower guard remains, there will be some trimming to be done..
Decisions, decisions..
I’ll need two V85’s..
One of each.. :popcorn:
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I needed to arrange some protection for the front of the engine and thought I would have the most success with a low mounted guard.
I don’t suggest it is more attractive, but when done in red, it will begin to blend..
Before..
(https://i.ibb.co/pjKyDhn/CA16-BFBB-BE23-445-E-B970-686094-B55752.png) (https://ibb.co/pjKyDhn)
After..
(https://i.ibb.co/wcppkyF/DBD6-C6-A9-0-BFD-4-C13-BF6-B-0-CBF2-CCA660-A.png) (https://ibb.co/wcppkyF)
Walk around..
https://youtu.be/bT5mUS3_EKA
IMHO that is so much better Huz
I rode a v85 just to see ..... as everyone said it was good and sensible
and i think that they are finally getting some more heart in the small block motor
but it is ugly especially in Mcdonalds paint and with a beak
- i dont mind a real motocross bike with high flappy front mudguards
but on a 100% road bike the beak a cosmetic thing that is not at all cosmetic :violent1:
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IMHO that is so much better Huz
I rode a v85 just to see ..... as everyone said it was good and sensible
and i think that they are finally getting some more heart in the small block motor
but it is ugly especially in Mcdonalds paint and with a beak
- i dont mind a real motocross bike with high flappy front mudguards
but on a 100% road bike the beak a cosmetic thing that is not at all cosmetic :violent1:
Hmmmm..Yes.
But the issue is going to be, that mine will not be exclusively on road, (although predominately so..).
BTW..
Hands up who went to Google after reading reply #142..? :popcorn:
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Although much better now, you'll still be copping a fair bit of road grime thrown up from the front tyre that'll end up oven-baked to your black engine casings.
Would one of those Pyramid Plastics "Fenda-Extanda" not look too ugly on the trailing edge of your new front mudguard? Assuming of course it's actually available for Aprilia's Dorsoduro mudguard.
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Although much better now, you'll still be copping a fair bit of road grime thrown up from the front tyre that'll end up oven-baked to your black engine casings.
Would one of those Pyramid Plastics "Fenda-Extanda" not look too ugly on the trailing edge of your new front mudguard? Assuming of course it's actually available for Aprilia's Dorsoduro mudguard.
That’ll be the go KD..
Probably only fitted for more serious expeditions, will still be better than the high one in that respect.
The final decision will be made to keep or reject the low setup, once I see how much I can trim the fork covers..
They look pox.
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Trim the fork covers? They keep the road crap off the stanchions (tubes? what are they called on USD forks?). I would be concerned that the seals would see a lot more wear.
If you don't like whatever pyramid plastics has to offer- then just roll your own. I used a piece of neoprene, cut to a sort-of triangle shape, that is unobtrusive. Cost less than a (US) dollar.
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That’ll be the go KD..
Probably only fitted for more serious expeditions, will still be better than the high one in that respect.
The final decision will be made to keep or reject the low setup, once I see how much I can trim the fork covers..
They look pox.
Real Men makes fender extenders out of plastic bleach bottles, old motorcycle tires, or dumbstruck mudflaps.
If you want that bike to be a real head turner, next time you go riding, stop by the grocery store, get two nice size Cantalopes and stuff them in the front of your jacket.
Trust me, works great!
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get two nice size Cantalopes and stuff them in the front of your jacket.
I already have two in my pants... :rolleyes:
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Trim the fork covers? They keep the road crap off the stanchions (tubes? what are they called on USD forks?). I would be concerned that the seals would see a lot more wear.
If you don't like whatever pyramid plastics has to offer- then just roll your own. I used a piece of neoprene, cut to a sort-of triangle shape, that is unobtrusive. Cost less than a (US) dollar.
Yes that little fact had not eluded me..
However, the section that runs on the seals will receive treatment before being exposed to aggravation.
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If there is one thing I've learned in this life, it is 'don't aggravate your seals'. :boxing:
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Now I’ve started this..
Before..
(https://i.ibb.co/Fzc1QNc/1-B819-BE5-FDEA-4722-8658-8460-D240-DD02.png) (https://ibb.co/Fzc1QNc)
After..
(https://i.ibb.co/zPS8bYC/414777-DF-40-E9-4831-9-F9-E-608-E34-E99-C0-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zPS8bYC)
(https://i.ibb.co/bNSt2yh/2699-D18-A-4-A4-A-4325-9664-1-CA757-B716-DC.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bNSt2yh)
(https://i.ibb.co/WxXJ4s9/37-F24-A94-337-C-48-EC-A727-2-E49599-EDEDC.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WxXJ4s9)
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I needed to arrange some protection for the front of the engine and thought I would have the most success with a low mounted guard.
I don’t suggest it is more attractive, but when done in red, it will begin to blend..
Before..
(https://i.ibb.co/pjKyDhn/CA16-BFBB-BE23-445-E-B970-686094-B55752.png) (https://ibb.co/pjKyDhn)
After..
(https://i.ibb.co/wcppkyF/DBD6-C6-A9-0-BFD-4-C13-BF6-B-0-CBF2-CCA660-A.png) (https://ibb.co/wcppkyF)
Walk around..
https://youtu.be/bT5mUS3_EKA
I cant decide.
Ciao
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I have now LP.
The low one stays, with abbreviated fork guards.
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How about this?
(https://i.ibb.co/CH4NRYk/66-F1-B5-E0-5-A98-4-F94-B511-3-C68898-A2-A1-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CH4NRYk)
wrx 0 60 2017 (https://statewideinventory.org/subaru-0-60-times)
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Seen worse.. :thumb:
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I already have two in my pants... :rolleyes:
I would guess either a serious STD or some form of blunt force, repetitive motion injury akin to carpal tunnel syndrome.
Pictures would help experienced WG personal provide a better diagnoses. :grin:
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I’ve chopped away a hell of a lot of the bulk featured in the Caponord fender design.
The triangulation remains for structural integrity and the movement area of the staunchions is still protected from front on assault..
Here ‘tis..
(https://i.ibb.co/hHmzSq3/AF46-B40-C-D2-EF-4-BA2-A89-C-B62477289216.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hHmzSq3)
(https://i.ibb.co/R4y7kQG/0688453-A-A423-4-C4-C-8-A87-0-CD5-E174-F923.jpg) (https://ibb.co/R4y7kQG)
(https://i.ibb.co/QkRJpgt/499-DD5-EB-2-FDF-4-A6-F-B926-19-FE219084-ED.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QkRJpgt)
(https://i.ibb.co/B36PjJt/CD211-A69-2934-4-C40-BA5-C-F7-F2-F17-BF620.png) (https://ibb.co/B36PjJt)
https://youtu.be/6cDbkQxgCyA
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That looks really good. I'm surprised that the fender originally sat so close to the wheel.
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That looks really good. I'm surprised that the fender originally sat so close to the wheel.
I’ve given it 25-30 mm.
You cannot raise it too much or the radii will not match.
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(https://ibb.co/hHmzSq3)
Looking better and better
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Hey Huzo, you're a trend-setter!
Mistral now offers 'big bore header pipes'
https://www.mgcycle.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=26_336&products_id=5675
Cheers,
jrt
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Hey Huzo, you're a trend-setter!
Mistral now offers 'big bore header pipes'
https://www.mgcycle.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=26_336&products_id=5675
Cheers,
jrt
They look ok too..
I made mine with more degrees of bend exiting the head with no crossover, for what I think is a more elegant sweep down past the engine and the line matches the protection bar
(https://i.ibb.co/xSyGBsM/D960-E557-781-F-49-ED-8108-3-B0838960-AFB.png) (https://ibb.co/xSyGBsM)
but that’s only asthetics, the result is the same.
My O2 sensors are downstream further.
I am booked in for a dyno pull in two weeks and am having the map re done to bring things up to scratch mixture wise.
There is the slightest hint of flat spot right at 2,900-3,100 rpm under certain TGPS settings so that will be good.
I’m running the dB killers in the Zard muffler full time. It sounds more mellow under load and I think nicer overall.
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Putting these on my new V85tt when it is ready to pick up, mounting on the crash bars. Will run through a Skene controller to make them drl's as well as spots.
https://www.stedi.com.au/25-cree-led-motorcycle-driving-spot-light.html
Have you got your V85 yet..?
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Yep
(https://i.ibb.co/LgqH8sL/20201103-DSC02615.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LgqH8sL)
Waiting for loom fitting to fit spot lights and flasher to tail light.
Just made an inquiry to bloke in Spain about a seat.
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Very nice..
Am interested to hear about the lights.
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If left stock, I reckon they are the prettiest...
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Mounted my Spots today, only wired through standard relay to work with High Beam though. Will put my Skene controller in when the propper loom fittings arrive.
Work extremely well, 25w Stedi Spot beam.
(https://i.ibb.co/R9BhFDT/20201108-213714.jpg) (https://ibb.co/R9BhFDT)
(https://i.ibb.co/c6Ynn10/20201108-213743.jpg) (https://ibb.co/c6Ynn10)
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Just thinking.... would a short - say 150-200mm - LED lightbar fit where the upper 'guard had been removed? I have one mounted to the handlebars of my Nuda, which makes a world of difference at night: greater penetration & spread. This would still leave room for a pair of crashbar mounted foglamps wired to the low beam circuit.
Vaguely reminiscent of a Mod's Vespa from the '60s? Without all the mirrors of course.
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Just thinking.... would a short - say 150-200mm - LED lightbar fit where the upper 'guard had been removed? I have one mounted to the handlebars of my Nuda, which makes a world of difference at night: greater penetration & spread. This would still leave room for a pair of crashbar mounted foglamps wired to the low beam circuit.
Vaguely reminiscent of a Mod's Vespa from the '60s? Without all the mirrors of course.
Yes, but I don’t want that look..
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Mounted my Spots today, only wired through standard relay to work with High Beam though. Will put my Skene controller in when the propper loom fittings arrive.
Work extremely well, 25w Stedi Spot beam.
(https://i.ibb.co/R9BhFDT/20201108-213714.jpg) (https://ibb.co/R9BhFDT)
(https://i.ibb.co/c6Ynn10/20201108-213743.jpg) (https://ibb.co/c6Ynn10)
Is it possible to get a night time shot of them in use and give us a bit of a report ?
I am going to get a couple, but did not know whether the Touratech or Denali was a worthwhile course.
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a world of difference at night: greater penetration & spread.
Who among us would argue with that logic... :popcorn:
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Is it possible to get a night time shot of them in use and give us a bit of a report ?
I am going to get a couple, but did not know whether the Touratech or Denali was a worthwhile course.
Got the wiring bits I needed and now have running lights and spots.
Low beam
(https://i.ibb.co/6WbnCP7/20201111-DSC02668.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6WbnCP7)
Low beam
(https://i.ibb.co/jDX067M/20201111-DSC02678.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jDX067M)
High beam
(https://i.ibb.co/2jM1t81/20201111-DSC02679.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2jM1t81)
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Thank you very much, that looks very good from here. I think I will order some today.
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Got the wiring bits I needed and now have running lights and spots.
Low beam
(https://i.ibb.co/6WbnCP7/20201111-DSC02668.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6WbnCP7)
Low beam
(https://i.ibb.co/jDX067M/20201111-DSC02678.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jDX067M)
High beam
(https://i.ibb.co/2jM1t81/20201111-DSC02679.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2jM1t81)
Are they LED ?
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Are they LED ?
Yes, they look yellow in these pics due to me not being head on to the lens, and running them at 30% as DRL's.
I have the spots angled slightly outwards towards the side of the road where the skippies hide.
(https://i.ibb.co/pbPYvyy/20201112-DSC02689.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pbPYvyy)
(https://i.ibb.co/GxvyKSX/20201112-DSC02688.jpg) (https://ibb.co/GxvyKSX)
(https://i.ibb.co/wS9y37s/20201112-DSC02687.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wS9y37s)
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They do look vaguely similar..
(https://i.ibb.co/HnNPT08/150-BE681-27-FE-40-E3-9670-CD026-EDA60-A0.png) (https://ibb.co/HnNPT08)
(https://i.ibb.co/376Z8fh/5-F83-F179-9-EC8-47-E0-A17-E-216654879-CFC.jpg) (https://ibb.co/376Z8fh)
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I like that yours are 'cleaner'. Do I recall correctly that you have the O2 monitor bungs downstream a bit? They are well hidden. Personally, I could do without the tangs to fit the skid plates. I don't do that kind of riding on this bike.
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I like that yours are 'cleaner'. Do I recall correctly that you have the O2 monitor bungs downstream a bit? They are well hidden. Personally, I could do without the tangs to fit the skid plates. I don't do that kind of riding on this bike.
Yes, they are removed in that shot but are visible now since refitting.
(https://i.ibb.co/YyJ9gR2/8655-CBD9-6410-4762-99-CF-E99-FE8294-F3-A.png) (https://ibb.co/YyJ9gR2)
Clearly, this is an earlier shot with the standard muffler and high guard, but you can see the sensors.
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When I took my Griso to the Arctic circle I wrapped a simple piece of rubber mat about 6" wide around the bottom of the engine to deflect stones, this kept it very clean.
How about something similar on the V85 e.g 3mm carbon fibre or even polythene starting about mid way down the alternator to back about the start of gearbox.
I really like what you have done so far, something to strive for.
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When I took my Griso to the Arctic circle I wrapped a simple piece of rubber mat about 6" wide around the bottom of the engine to deflect stones, this kept it very clean.
How about something similar on the V85 e.g 3mm carbon fibre or even polythene starting about mid way down the alternator to back about the start of gearbox.
I really like what you have done so far, something to strive for.
I like the rubber idea.
My mental image is a piece about 1/4” thick. The cushioning effect would be advantageous.
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Short length of conveyor belt?
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Short length of conveyor belt?
Clark Rubber... :thumb:
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Personally, I could do without the tangs to fit the skid plates.
Four bolts to take them off, mine weren’t even done up ex factory.. :rolleyes:
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These finally turned up today.
(https://i.ibb.co/9qcTCm9/A87-B104-C-2539-4-C2-B-AA8-B-EF3537-B362-B6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9qcTCm9)
They’re going in here..
(https://i.ibb.co/2vrV1r7/7-E43-E66-F-5-D61-4-E85-B080-4-E25-B8-FE93-C8.png) (https://ibb.co/2vrV1r7)
(https://i.ibb.co/bbjHvJy/2-ABA4-EC9-DC7-A-49-B6-AD70-8-E2459161-B2-D.png) (https://ibb.co/bbjHvJy)
(https://i.ibb.co/rdrKMRk/B3-B84683-6-EAF-492-F-A6-F4-4-D7728-A46558.png) (https://ibb.co/rdrKMRk)
Should go ok..
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Mounted my Stedi 25w on the crash bars, but might still raise them up a bit.
(https://i.ibb.co/Nx7wQDK/20201224-DSC02789.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Nx7wQDK)
(https://i.ibb.co/g3s9XFj/20201224-DSC02790.jpg) (https://ibb.co/g3s9XFj)
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Mounted my Stedi 25w on the crash bars, but might still raise them up a bit.
(https://i.ibb.co/Nx7wQDK/20201224-DSC02789.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Nx7wQDK)
(https://i.ibb.co/g3s9XFj/20201224-DSC02790.jpg) (https://ibb.co/g3s9XFj)
Jeez, they look Damn good from here mate..
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The higher the mount, the greater the penetration. Huzo, I'm assuming you mean atop the lower triple-clamp?
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The higher the mount, the greater the penetration. Huzo, I'm assuming you mean atop the lower triple-clamp?
Yes mate.
Between the existing lights and triple clamp.
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The clamps I have for the spot lights will fit the outer bars on the headlights, so they might end up there.
(https://i.ibb.co/bKBT74Q/131985785-2504716759829425-7901631450594824428-o.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bKBT74Q)
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The higher the mount, the greater the penetration.
Now THAT sounds like good advice.. :wink:
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Huzo,
any plans to strip the black paint off the engine and/or transmission?
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Huzo,
any plans to strip the black paint off the engine and/or transmission?
If I thought I could have gotten into the fins without stripping the engine, I would have mate.
I would be prepared to remove the engine/gearbox, but not strip the donk.
To have silver with black underneath is not acceptable.
Cylinders would require chemical removal or vapour blast, complete dissassembly.
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If I thought I could have gotten into the fins without stripping the engine, I would have mate.
I would be prepared to remove the engine/gearbox, but not strip the donk.
To have silver with black underneath is not acceptable.
Cylinders would require chemical removal or vapour blast, complete dissassembly.
Yeah. I don't think that "hiding" the cylinders by painting them black did anything for the looks of the bike. Guzzi cylinders should be at least seen and preferably highlighted.
On air cooled most bikes. black cylinders and polished fin edges look good to my eye. I think by just taking the paint off the tops of the "fins" on the valve covers, it would do a surprising amount to highlight the cylinders. If it were my bikes, I'd try a rubber sanding block and maybe some 220 grit paper as a quick experiment. You can always repaint in black easily.
The pewter color of some bike engines might look better than black. Easier to paint than strip.
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The rocker cover thing is something I seriously considered, but not convinced enough to commit to it.
If I did that, it would command attention somewhere else IMO.
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The rocker cover thing is something I seriously considered, but not convinced enough to commit to it.
If I did that, it would command attention somewhere else IMO.
Yeah, different color, excuse me, colour, valve covers almost always look lazy and/or cheap to me.
That Guzzi engine, lacking side covers, does not lend itself to easy detailing.
Tough to evaluate without the bike in front of me.
I think it would be surprising how much just highlighting the valve cover "fins" would make those cylinders "pop" out.
At a minimum, I would try some pin striping tape or maybe a bottle of White Out which could be easily reversed.
The quest continues.... much easier than losing weight or getting Botox injections on a regular basis.....
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Hmmm..yeah.
Anyway, I went about mounting the auxiliary lights on the V85.
I had a couple of methods kicking around, but the longer I thought about them, the less keen I got. After a lot more thinking, I decided to do this.l
(https://i.ibb.co/xCk2kLT/0-D4-FBF24-7-FEB-4-DC7-8-E39-3-D3-BAAB7-C45-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xCk2kLT)
That meant I could mount the lights directly by their own fittings, accept for one small glitch.
The front surface of the lower clamp is not straight, so the lights would have been “toed in” and I was not going to accept that.
So I made two thick packers with an angled rear face, so that careful rotating would result in the lights being aligned straight and then pitched up or down to suit the attitude of the bike.
So that got me to here..
(https://i.ibb.co/16cksqY/0-CB68537-E982-49-CE-AF38-7-E877-BA6-BB0-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/16cksqY)
(https://i.ibb.co/1TLdMkQ/6-FC20985-88-BA-43-CE-93-C1-51418747633-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1TLdMkQ)
(https://i.ibb.co/R3230NM/9-F157-CE5-BFBC-4-CF6-9-EE7-FE838-A0333-BE.jpg) (https://ibb.co/R3230NM)
You’d think that would be wonderful and it (mostly) is, but the eagle eyed among you will notice that whilst the auxiliary lights are facing directly forward, the main headlight cluster faces off to the right, (as viewed by the rider..)
Bugger it all..!
Now I have to fix that mess..!
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Having cross-eyed spotties might not be such a bad thing. It might look weird, but could prove useful for spotting & deterring those dusk-time Skippys lurking on the verges.
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Having cross-eyed spotties might not be such a bad thing. It might look weird, but could prove useful for spotting & deterring those dusk-time Skippys lurking on the verges.
It’s not quite that way though KD.
The spots can be aimed as you say, but they are currently straight forward. It’s the main headlights that are off centre and it looks pox.
I’ll fix it today...(somehow..).
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My headlights were off center as well. Loosen the two bolts that hold the bracket to the frame. There is enough room in the holes to shift the head lights centering them. Hold them in place until you snug the bolts and you are good to go. Merry Christmas Huzo.
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My headlights were off center as well. Loosen the two bolts that hold the bracket to the frame. There is enough room in the holes to shift the head lights centering them. Hold them in place until you snug the bolts and you are good to go. Merry Christmas Huzo.
You bloody beauty Trialsman..!
Well spotted, I had not investigated that as a cause.. :bow: :thumb:
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Had a look this morning and did this..
(https://i.ibb.co/6rxL2jD/430-AD2-F3-16-D0-4-FDE-AC54-D2-E0470512-BD.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6rxL2jD)
With the front wheel IN LINE it became possible to manipulate the packers to align the spots and get them in line with the headlights.
Now they look like this.
(https://i.ibb.co/NxGgCzz/5-FA00129-9-E0-F-40-C9-8-B2-E-CA637-EACC1-EA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NxGgCzz)
I don’t think I’d put my vernier on them, but they will do until a night time run is done.
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:thumb: :thumb:
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:thumb: :thumb:
Thanks T.
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Mounted my Stedi 25w on the crash bars, but might still raise them up a bit.
(https://i.ibb.co/Nx7wQDK/20201224-DSC02789.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Nx7wQDK)
(https://i.ibb.co/g3s9XFj/20201224-DSC02790.jpg) (https://ibb.co/g3s9XFj)
Hi mate.
Can you e mail me your phone number to
peterhughesxx@gmail.com
I am somewhat perplexed as to which wire/s to tap into behind the headlight.
I have found two wires that are live when high beam is on, but they stay live when low beam is selected.
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Ok.
Well I ended up finding the wire that powers up the high beam circuit to the headlights from the left hand cluster (white), and ran it through a relay.
I have the spots so they come on with high beam. I don’t have a controller to adjust illumination and would not rule out fitting one, but for now I’ll keep it as it is.
Tomorrow I’ll check the aiming and call it quits.
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I’m really starting to think that black needs to come off the engine/gearbox.
Would vapour blasting do the job ?
Walnut shell maybe ?
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I’m really starting to think that black needs to come off the engine/gearbox.
Would vapour blasting do the job ?
Walnut shell maybe ?
If you don't mind the possibility of oil seeps.
Ciao
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If you don't mind the possibility of oil seeps.
Ciao
Do you expect the engine to leak if I change the colour ?
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Do you expect the engine to leak if I change the colour ?
No, but stripping the original paint does risk oil leaks, not a massive risk but it's there. Even repainting after stripping you need to bare in mind that a significant part of the factory painting process is to mitigate porosity issues. I've dealt with these casting porosity issues a lot over the years including the Daytona/Centy engines.
Ciao
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No, but stripping the original paint does risk oil leaks, not a massive risk but it's there. Even repainting after stripping you need to bare in mind that a significant part of the factory painting process is to mitigate porosity issues. I've dealt with these casting porosity issues a lot over the years including the Daytona/Centy engines.
Ciao
Ok that seems to make sense, but I do intend to repaint the castings in silver like my Norge.
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Those cylinder heads need to go back to bare metal, would break up the black for sure.
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I've liked your changes to your V85 Huzo.
Ever since I saw the new upcoming V7 with a new headlight, I've wondered what it might look like on your bike.
This is really poorly and quickly done but...
(https://i.ibb.co/G3mcjrt/V85-Headlight.png) (https://ibb.co/G3mcjrt)
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I've liked your changes to your V85 Huzo.
Ever since I saw the new upcoming V7 with a new headlight, I've wondered what it might look like on your bike.
This is really poorly and quickly done but...
(https://i.ibb.co/G3mcjrt/V85-Headlight.png) (https://ibb.co/G3mcjrt)
Looks better than I imagined.
What does the engine and gearbox look like in the same colour as the swingarm ?
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(https://i.ibb.co/h8q360N/135870726-860677121427061-8874052962705737727-n.jpg) (https://ibb.co/h8q360N)
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I really like what you have done so far, I wouldn't strip the paint off the engine though, the black hides the dirt.
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Looks better than I imagined.
What does the engine and gearbox look like in the same colour as the swingarm ?
I'm not really practiced in that kind of editing but...
(https://i.ibb.co/6gts9Rn/V85-Headlight-Silver-Engine.png) (https://ibb.co/6gts9Rn)
And a quick no luggage look...
(https://i.ibb.co/HYdKwqw/V85-Headlight-Silver-Engine-No-Luggage.png) (https://ibb.co/HYdKwqw)
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Had a look this morning and did this..
(https://i.ibb.co/6rxL2jD/430-AD2-F3-16-D0-4-FDE-AC54-D2-E0470512-BD.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6rxL2jD)
With the front wheel IN LINE it became possible to manipulate the packers to align the spots and get them in line with the headlights.
Now they look like this.
(https://i.ibb.co/NxGgCzz/5-FA00129-9-E0-F-40-C9-8-B2-E-CA637-EACC1-EA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NxGgCzz)
I don’t think I’d put my vernier on them, but they will do until a night time run is done.
Yeah...
They work.. :thumb:
(https://i.ibb.co/wLD8JNX/8-C614-BE0-D25-D-466-C-8892-FC84-D411-CE7-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wLD8JNX)
(https://i.ibb.co/7nPSHp8/25-AB1890-D94-E-4-FDC-ACB2-8-AF1-A1-A25395.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7nPSHp8)
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Not a facelift thing, but an improvement I think..
I’m of the opinion that the twist grip on the V85 is unnecessarily heavy.
Just letting anyone who’s interested know, that I had a new one on the shelf and performed some home surgery on it with a view to making it lighter in it’s action.
I ran a small blade through the joint line and cut the connecting screw/s that hold the halves together. Upon separation of the halves, it became apparent that the spring has about one and a half turns of preload on it,
(https://i.ibb.co/bbWk5dH/DC714526-7-A8-B-4-F36-BCB2-5-A0-FEF9-E55-A8.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bbWk5dH)
(https://i.ibb.co/hDRXhcP/06511-AEC-6-EF3-45-BF-8056-8-E0-DBD2-D8-C13.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hDRXhcP)
I reduced the pre load to half a turn and needless to say, the action is now nice and light.
Before you ask, yes the twist grip snaps shut when you release it. Here’s the modified one... (https://500pxdownload.com/)
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Instagram doesn't work for me. Can it be done while still on the bike by a dummy?
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Instagram doesn't work for me. Can it be done while still on the bike by a dummy?
Would be possibly doable, but I don’t know why you would purposely make it harder.
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I took the crappy carbon guard off the Zard can.
Also the metallic badge thing. I thought it looked like something from a decomissioned Bulgarian circus cart..
(https://i.ibb.co/Wf4yBML/CF2-C36-B6-93-A0-4154-8-F6-F-584-F54-EA7-B4-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Wf4yBML)
(https://i.ibb.co/gDFntx7/369-CFE83-3-B3-F-4446-A767-15-C9-D9-A25002.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gDFntx7)
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Bump.
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Any concerns about porosity from a motor or gearbox stripped of paint could easily be addressed with PJ1 case paint. They used to sell it in gloss and satin clear, as well as silver, etc. Stripped and painted several XS1100 engines over the years and used this to good effect.
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Any concerns about porosity from a motor or gearbox stripped of it's paint could easily be addressed with PJ1 case paint. They used to sell it in gloss and satin clear, as well as silver, etc. Stripped and painted several XS1100 engines over the years and used this to good effect.
Yes.
That silver that I used is brake caliper paint.
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Not a facelift thing, but an improvement I think..
I’m of the opinion that the twist grip on the V85 is unnecessarily heavy.
Just letting anyone who’s interested know, that I had a new one on the shelf and performed some home surgery on it with a view to making it lighter in it’s action.
I ran a small blade through the joint line and cut the connecting screw/s that hold the halves together. Upon separation of the halves, it became apparent that the spring has about one and a half turns of preload on it,
(https://i.ibb.co/bbWk5dH/DC714526-7-A8-B-4-F36-BCB2-5-A0-FEF9-E55-A8.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bbWk5dH)
(https://i.ibb.co/hDRXhcP/06511-AEC-6-EF3-45-BF-8056-8-E0-DBD2-D8-C13.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hDRXhcP)
I reduced the pre load to half a turn and needless to say, the action is now nice and light.
Before you ask, yes the twist grip snaps shut when you release it. Here’s the modified one...
(https://500pxdownload.com/)
Bump for “V85 cruise control fail” thread.
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Not a facelift thing, but an improvement I think..
I’m of the opinion that the twist grip on the V85 is unnecessarily heavy.
Just letting anyone who’s interested know, that I had a new one on the shelf and performed some home surgery on it with a view to making it lighter in it’s action.
I reduced the pre load to half a turn and needless to say, the action is now nice and light.
Before you ask, yes the twist grip snaps shut when you release it. Here’s the modified one...
Now that you've put this out I'm starting to agree that the pull Is a bit heavy (thanks a lot :undecided:). I put some Biltwell Renegade grips on my V85 which have a larger diameter so maybe that will help. The modification looks straightforward enough though a bit fiddly. Did you have to re-calibrate the throttle when you were done?
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Now that you've put this out I'm starting to agree that the pull Is a bit heavy (thanks a lot :undecided:). I put some Biltwell Renegade grips on my V85 which have a larger diameter so maybe that will help. The modification looks straightforward enough though a bit fiddly. Did you have to re-calibrate the throttle when you were done?
Maybe it was unnecessary, but I did a throttle re learn anyway.
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Not a facelift thing, but an improvement I think..
I’m of the opinion that the twist grip on the V85 is unnecessarily heavy.
Just letting anyone who’s interested know, that I had a new one on the shelf and performed some home surgery on it with a view to making it lighter in it’s action.
I ran a small blade through the joint line and cut the connecting screw/s that hold the halves together. Upon separation of the halves, it became apparent that the spring has about one and a half turns of preload on it,
(https://i.ibb.co/bbWk5dH/DC714526-7-A8-B-4-F36-BCB2-5-A0-FEF9-E55-A8.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bbWk5dH)
(https://i.ibb.co/hDRXhcP/06511-AEC-6-EF3-45-BF-8056-8-E0-DBD2-D8-C13.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hDRXhcP)
I reduced the pre load to half a turn and needless to say, the action is now nice and light.
Before you ask, yes the twist grip snaps shut when you release it. Here’s the modified one...
(https://500pxdownload.com/)
So I missed something. Why did you cut the screws? Why not just unscrew them?
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So I missed something. Why did you cut the screws? Why not just unscrew them?
Huzo said that the OEM throttle uses glued/pressed pins, not screws. He cut the pins, drilled them out and replaced with screws when he re-assembled the throttle
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Huzo said that the OEM throttle uses glued/pressed pins, not screws. He cut the pins, drilled them out and replaced with screws when he re-assembled the throttle
That’s almost exactly right.
However, the pins wind in on a thread and have a toothed clip hidden down a hole. Once the pin is cut, half will fall out and the other half can be wound out.
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I’m not going to do this, but I thought it wasn’t too bad a styling exercise and nice workmanship.
https://youtu.be/z5yQVyINB_Y
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Nice workmanship. Wonder if we'll see this racing cowl / number plate on eBay some day.
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Nice workmanship. Wonder if we'll see this racing cowl / number plate on eBay some day.
Mmmmm...
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I’m thinking along these lines.
(https://i.ibb.co/SBds6V8/46795-AC8-D790-47-ED-AFFE-FE79-BD968-B9-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SBds6V8)
(https://i.ibb.co/Tqs0BwD/D0-ABAFAC-4-A0-E-42-DF-B0-A6-17-BF35-D05131.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Tqs0BwD)
(https://i.ibb.co/9cLG490/B908-C6-B3-B678-45-A0-9-BC6-6049964-E1617.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9cLG490)
(https://i.ibb.co/wyKRpBv/F642-BAC2-7469-42-E7-9107-837-F41-F97-FAC.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wyKRpBv)
(https://i.ibb.co/WVKXwBR/4-B099-A88-C033-4362-88-F7-57-CCF580-C1-BE.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WVKXwBR)
(https://i.ibb.co/27LpRqK/F380-D377-0491-4122-8-C49-180-F327-CCBEF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/27LpRqK)
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The Zard that’s currently fitted and the stock can will be up for grabs.
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I’m thinking along these lines.
(https://i.ibb.co/SBds6V8/46795-AC8-D790-47-ED-AFFE-FE79-BD968-B9-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SBds6V8)
(https://i.ibb.co/Tqs0BwD/D0-ABAFAC-4-A0-E-42-DF-B0-A6-17-BF35-D05131.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Tqs0BwD)
(https://i.ibb.co/9cLG490/B908-C6-B3-B678-45-A0-9-BC6-6049964-E1617.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9cLG490)
(https://i.ibb.co/wyKRpBv/F642-BAC2-7469-42-E7-9107-837-F41-F97-FAC.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wyKRpBv)
(https://i.ibb.co/WVKXwBR/4-B099-A88-C033-4362-88-F7-57-CCF580-C1-BE.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WVKXwBR)
(https://i.ibb.co/27LpRqK/F380-D377-0491-4122-8-C49-180-F327-CCBEF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/27LpRqK)
I like it. Classic sport/sport touring bike. Low front fender, no skid plate, no beak, single wall pipes, low muffler.
What else did I miss? :thumb:
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There’s a fair bit more, but it’s covered throughout the thread.
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Any concerns about porosity from a motor or gearbox stripped of paint could easily be addressed with PJ1 case paint. They used to sell it in gloss and satin clear, as well as silver, etc. Stripped and painted several XS1100 engines over the years and used this to good effect.
There is some other paint that is a perfect match for your Stornello trim.. Auto body guys are well aware of this brand,, Some of the very best plastic paint in a can also..
I always thought the Wire wheels on the Norge knocked it out of the park
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EM019O/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I always thought the Wire wheels on the Norge knocked it out of the park
Yeah.
I’ve only fixed one leaking spoke nipple since early 2016 @90,000 k. Now they are at 195,000 k.
As for the V85...
I do prefer the polished look of the V85 ones compared to the original black.
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Yeah.
I’ve only fixed one leaking spoke nipple since early 2016 @90,000 k. Now they are at 195,000 k.
As for the V85...
I do prefer the polished look of the V85 ones compared to the original black.
Same on my Stornello, but going the with stock blacked out rims for the near future. The rear hub is bead blasted aluminum, and the front is painted silver from the factory.. The aluminum side cover # plates, and front shield was a bit over the top, and black works better for me.. Kind of a kit looks wise from the factory, and the black stuff looks better overall to me.. Funny ordered a chrome racer tank from Ebay, and i am going to bling it out some.. It will take some work to pull it off, but I have a feeling I might pull it off. Main thing just store the original mint parts for down the road. Love the aluminum fenders though..
If I can figure out a way to satin the chrome tank by blasting/etc might go that route . Ordered some H&B stickers that look like the Breva/Norge badges,and side factory rubber tank pads from AF1
Great thing about these bike is you can make it look like your own, and it does not matter one bit if any one else likes it.. You would not be riding a guzzi if you cared what other people thought about it.. :evil: Probably a BMW instead.. :grin:
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I love the look!
I just got my C85 delivered and like the look of the Travel but yours is sweet! Great work. How much weight did the exhaust save you?
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I love the look!
I just got my C85 delivered and like the look of the Travel but yours is sweet! Great work. How much weight did the exhaust save you?
My educated guess is around 10 kg total.
My pipes are single wall and there is no cat converter. The Mivv muffler weighs about 3 kg.
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In the same way, I still think I prefer steel sunraysia-style wheels on offroaders (cars, utes, landrovers etc.) to alloys for the same reason. Steel, too, seems more flexible yet resilient than alloy. As an aside, many steel wheels are actually lighter than the thicker sectioned alloy wheels usually fitted to offroaders too. We're not talking about Mareshini magnesium racing wheels here, but just el cheapo OEM crap standard fitting alloys.
You can also hammer steel to bend it straight if you ding it hard, a big plus if you are out somewhere in the middle of the bush!
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I think it’s turned into a tummy tuck, more than a facelift.
The whole thing just looks.....lighter.
(https://i.ibb.co/93xLvWX/B8-B57405-B328-40-F4-9238-EE35771-A0-B36.jpg) (https://ibb.co/93xLvWX)
(https://i.ibb.co/kKHkH6G/157-BC4-B3-CBA3-457-C-8-E12-6-FDF41-A07812.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kKHkH6G)
(https://i.ibb.co/VqVXqsj/20-DC0-A1-A-8249-4913-A6-E5-92-FCAFECA1-DA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VqVXqsj)
(https://i.ibb.co/j52qjDc/9-AA8-C0-B2-E585-40-D3-92-A1-264-E1-E8-CAB6-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/j52qjDc)
(https://i.ibb.co/3R2QDjM/7537615-E-EBF1-482-F-A873-C452-DFF55644.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3R2QDjM)
(https://i.ibb.co/fkKtkpT/26-D872-B5-8509-4-CAE-8-A4-D-CE4163-A67-AB7.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fkKtkpT)
I like the empty look under the rear guard. The muffler is a bit rorty, but tomorrow I’ll fit the dB killer to tone it down a bit.
It sounds nice under load on the freeway, but just a touch loud.
A bit of a walk around.
https://youtu.be/W9ulUhJgVwk
Oh and BTW..
The link pipe you see is a mild steel pattern I threw together. The finished article will be mandrel bent stainless.
Ha, surprise me :laugh: You've got an absorption muffler of those dimensions on an 850cc engine. It ain't going to be anything less than "a touch loud" under load.
Ciao
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Actually Phil, it’s not offensive and it does not have a dB killer in, so it should be closer to acceptable with one fitted.
That actual muffler is not mine, but I’ll be getting one the same. I borrowed it to do the work.
You're going to struggle to achieve an acceptable DB level with such a small volume. I find DB killers tend to reduce the DB level but have a negative effect on the "sound" or tone of the pipes. Having said that I run them on my RE 650 to reduce the "crack" from the exhaust but it doesn't sound as good. Even my 48 hp 650 RE is bordering on too loud with 2 absorption mufflers and DB killers of about the size of your borrowed one.
My V11 Agostini cans aren't objectionable even without DB killers but they have plenty of muffler internal volume.
Ciao
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Seriously, cannot think of much else.
(https://i.ibb.co/nc93V97/FF2-CBF85-9791-43-E5-9-F2-E-E892483-E8-AE4.png) (https://ibb.co/nc93V97)
(https://i.ibb.co/Q9fwtws/5-E964-DB1-F0-FE-4-B44-BBB9-AB551-D475292.png) (https://ibb.co/Q9fwtws)
(https://i.ibb.co/HrLjT2p/66-FE5-C84-4-CFE-4-A9-F-8-C5-D-7-E12-CDEBF441.png) (https://ibb.co/HrLjT2p)
(https://i.ibb.co/LxnrR7G/EB392-A0-A-1067-4416-9446-8-EF5-C1-EAD4-C4.png) (https://ibb.co/LxnrR7G)
There’s been.
30 mm reduction in seat height
Ohlins shock
Tom Tom mount
Front beak removal
Low front guard
Denali auxiliary lights
Polished rims
Bash plate removal
Mandrel bent headers
Y pipe into Mivv low muffler
Black removal from swingarm, drivetrain and hubs
Top case mount moved 100 mm forward
Hand guard removal
Throttle pull halved
Poor reserve light activation point fixed
That’s got most of it I think...
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Seriously, cannot think of much else.
(https://i.ibb.co/nc93V97/FF2-CBF85-9791-43-E5-9-F2-E-E892483-E8-AE4.png) (https://ibb.co/nc93V97)
(https://i.ibb.co/Q9fwtws/5-E964-DB1-F0-FE-4-B44-BBB9-AB551-D475292.png) (https://ibb.co/Q9fwtws)
(https://i.ibb.co/HrLjT2p/66-FE5-C84-4-CFE-4-A9-F-8-C5-D-7-E12-CDEBF441.png) (https://ibb.co/HrLjT2p)
(https://i.ibb.co/LxnrR7G/EB392-A0-A-1067-4416-9446-8-EF5-C1-EAD4-C4.png) (https://ibb.co/LxnrR7G)
There’s been.
30 mm reduction in seat height
Ohlins shock
Tom Tom mount
Front beak removal
Low front guard
Denali auxiliary lights
Polished rims
Bash plate removal
Mandrel bent headers
Y pipe into Mivv low muffler
Black removal from swingarm, drivetrain and hubs
Top case mount moved 100 mm forward
Hand guard removal
Throttle pull halved
Poor reserve light activation point fixed
That’s got most of it I think...
Time to sell it then I guess :grin:
Ciao
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Time to sell it then I guess :grin:
Ciao
Hmmmm...
That might be an issue. If I took 10 grand off what it owes me, I’d still need to get 20 k...!
I’m afraid she’s a keeper.
https://youtu.be/W9ulUhJgVwk
(Lucky she’s pretty..) :kiss: :kiss: :kiss:
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I really like the new, low pipe. Makes it easy to put some soft luggage on and I doubt it will have any negative effect anyplace you will be riding it off road. Maybe some manufacturer will pick up on this and you can collect a royalty. :evil: :thumb:
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I really like the new, low pipe. Makes it easy to put some soft luggage on and I doubt it will have any negative effect anyplace you will be riding it off road. Maybe some manufacturer will pick up on this and you can collect a royalty. :evil: :thumb:
Well, that’s a topical subject at present for me.
I was in a conversation the other day with old mate and he said that I have removed my bike from it’s “intended purpose..”.
The (predictable) response was two fold.
If there were 10 bog standard V85’s and 10 replicas of mine on a dealer floor..
Which one would sell out first ?
Also
Other than fitting road tyres and removing the piece of bent tin..(bash plate), what have I done to mine that would preclude it from operating in the same sphere as it was originally envisaged by the manufacturer ?
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Well, that’s a topical subject at present for me.
I was in a conversation the other day with old mate and he said that I have removed my bike from it’s “intended purpose..”.
The (predictable) response was two fold.
If there were 10 bog standard V85’s and 10 replicas of mine on a dealer floor..
Which one would sell out first ?
Also
Other than fitting road tyres and removing the piece in bent tin..(bash plate), what have I done to mine that would preclude it from operating in the same sphere as it was originally envisaged by the manufacturer ?
Well unless you are planning on riding MC only (single track) trails you have not lost any off road ability with the lower exhaust and made it easier to mount side bags. If you do plan on riding single track trails you really should pick another bike. Even if you only ride dirt roads on occasion I think a skid plate is a good idea as there is always some bits thrown up from the front tire. Mostly protection from cosmetic dings.
Damon Bradshaw rides a T700 on some hairy trails with an exhaust about the height as yours. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjshsFzgXlg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjshsFzgXlg) Of course online everyone rides at the expert level. :evil: :evil: :tongue:
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I decided that the low muffler did not have enough upward kick.
The rear pegs were preventing any further re positioning in that regard, so out with the hacksaw...
(https://i.ibb.co/QpbKR0c/BA0-F3014-413-F-41-FF-AE7-D-78-EA75-FADE8-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QpbKR0c)
(https://i.ibb.co/Jyww0nD/DB2-ADF02-8-C2-C-4-D90-88-D0-9-E05-BA740-C89.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Jyww0nD)
(https://i.ibb.co/gmdfs96/82-F19-A96-F534-41-D9-8520-FFDAA9-BF9-D6-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gmdfs96)
(https://i.ibb.co/Dtkt1qC/2-E2-DAF10-A021-4-C85-BC21-62-C1-EAF6-B5-EF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Dtkt1qC)
Some prettying up required, but I’m happy with the angle.
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I decided that the low muffler did not have enough upward kick.
The rear pegs were preventing any further re positioning in that regard, so out with the hacksaw...
(https://i.ibb.co/QpbKR0c/BA0-F3014-413-F-41-FF-AE7-D-78-EA75-FADE8-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QpbKR0c)
Some prettying up required, but I’m happy with the angle.
Being parallel to the rear subframe/rack makes a nice line. Also like the clear space under the seat.
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Being parallel to the rear subframe/rack makes a nice line. Also like the clear space under the seat.
Yeah, I’m happy with that.
Now I want the engine/gearbox silver... :rolleyes:
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This is how it ended up with the panniers on.
(https://i.ibb.co/3WmrG3L/9-DDC916-C-B9-A1-4416-9009-D49-BB0722150.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3WmrG3L)
There is now a massive space between the inside of the left case and the wheel.
I saw a post where some bloke has fitted a tool case in there.
That engine needs to be silver.
Hmmmm.....
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This is how it ended up with the panniers on.
(https://i.ibb.co/3WmrG3L/9-DDC916-C-B9-A1-4416-9009-D49-BB0722150.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3WmrG3L)
There is now a massive space between the inside of the left case and the wheel.
I saw a post where some bloke has fitted a tool case in there.
That engine needs to be silver.
Hmmmm.....
Black engine looks more stealth...color combos look great. Sounds like the pannier issue is similar to the Stelvio...you could pack an elephant in between the bike and pannier given that the muffler tucks up in between there. A round tool kit cylinder might be a good choice...but you'll probably need one on the other side to keep it symmetrical or the imbalance will drive you nuts!
Looking good!
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Black engine looks more stealth...color combos look great. Sounds like the pannier issue is similar to the Stelvio...you could pack an elephant in between the bike and pannier given that the muffler tucks up in between there. A round tool kit cylinder might be a good choice...but you'll probably need one on the other side to keep it symmetrical or the imbalance will drive you nuts!
Looking good!
It’s too late, I am already nuts..!
But the imbalance thing would not be an issue, because the right hand pannier is wider anyway.
It would actually even it up.
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:thumb: :thumb:
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Yup ,totally dig it,.... foremost the Look of the Front Fender and Exaust.Very Prime !
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Which headers and crossover did you fit? Any fuelling issues?
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Which headers and crossover did you fit? Any fuelling issues?
I made the headers from stainless and were done on a mandrel bender.
The Y piece is Agostini and all TIG welded.
(https://i.ibb.co/rxTg3r3/73393055-CC2-E-4-BC2-88-B1-0-FC5048880-D0.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rxTg3r3)
(https://i.ibb.co/hsDN0ng/88-D01-A01-F766-4569-B28-F-F33221567-CE5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hsDN0ng)
The bike has been re mapped on a dyno and Lambdas disabled. I would have removed them completely (and did) for a while, but the ECU throws an engine light.
Initially there was a very slight dip in the fuelling at 2,800-3,100 rpm under light throttle, but that hole has been mapped out. It now pulls evenly and I think it is more even with the Mivv than the Zard.
I can get 500 km from a tank (just), under ideal conditions but things have to be perfect.
A range of 470 is always achievable.
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I have bumped the old V85 TT mods thread.
All the questions about the exhaust are answered in there.
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How did you getrid of the O2 sensors? I thought it couldn't be done.
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How did you getrid of the O2 sensors? I thought it couldn't be done.
The guy who reworked the map has the ability to switch them off. I specifically asked him if they are still functioning and he said no.
They do need to be plugged into the loom though, unplugging them results in the yellow engine light illuminating and a code being thrown.
I do believe Meinolf has written on this matter recently however.
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How about this for a left hand compliment...(I think..)
I pulled up today at a place called Halls Gap on my V85. There were a few bikes laying around.
Anyway, one of the punters says..
“Gee that’s nice isn’t it..” (pointing in the direction of my bike..)
One of the other blokes says..
“Ah yeah, that’s one of them Moto Guzzis, it’s ok but I like those TT things more....” :rolleyes:
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“Ah yeah, that’s one of them Moto Guzzis, it’s ok but I like those TT things more....” :rolleyes:
I am guessing you are doing it more to suit your tastes anyway.. :grin: Always tasteful to me though. I have my polished rims coming for my Stronelllo coming next week. I want to keep two sets of wheels with different looks..
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Your bike mods are always thought through and well executed Peter. More people should venture down that road to make their bike truly THEIR bike.
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Your bike mods are always thought through and well executed Peter. More people should venture down that road to make their bike truly THEIR bike.
Yes T.
I just thought it funny, that our simpleton hero did not recognise my bike as a V85. There was something very primal about him.
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Questions for Huzo. Just got my Arrow head pipes and want to do the lower muffler like you did. Can you tell me which model Mivv you have? Is it straight through with or without the DB killer? How long is it? My concern is that it may be too loud for me. I know that is very subjective. The one video I saw only shows the bike at idle. With a helmet and riding at a constant speed do you hear it? Thank you and I am happy to start another thread if you think that may be better. No hurry as I need to get the muffler and find a shop to make the connector. Cheers. :bow:
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Questions for Huzo. Just got my Arrow head pipes and want to do the lower muffler like you did. Can you tell me which model Mivv you have? Is it straight through with or without the DB killer? How long is it? My concern is that it may be too loud for me. I know that is very subjective. The one video I saw only shows the bike at idle. With a helmet and riding at a constant speed do you hear it? Thank you and I am happy to start another thread if you think that may be better. No hurry as I need to get the muffler and find a shop to make the connector. Cheers. :bow:
I’ll have to go back and try to find the model number for you, it’s important to get the left hand one.
Also if I did it again I’d be tempted to go for the oval section one, it would be easier to get it tucked away underneath and still in line with the centreline. But I’m satisfied with it.
Old mate reckons when I pass him at 100 kph, it’s only barely audible, which I tend to reckon would be right.
In answer to your other questions…
I run the dB killer, it is too loud without IMO.
This is without https://youtu.be/W9ulUhJgVwk
This is with https://youtu.be/Li8qvFVuAJ8
I’ll admit they sound scarily similar, but the second one is in confined space.
Suffice to say, it is too loud without, both at idle and in use. I find that with the restrictor in, it is ok but I would not want it louder. I’m away at present, but I’ll shoot another video when I get back with the “quieter” version out in the open.
In reality, it’s about the same as a Ducati monster but a bit more mellow. On the road at 100 kph, it’s really ideal.
I’ll get back to you.
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I’ll have to go back and try to find the model number for you, it’s important to get the left hand one.
Also if I did it again I’d be tempted to go for the oval section one, it would be easier to get it tucked away underneath and still in line with the centreline. But I’m satisfied with it.
Old mate reckons when I pass him at 100 kph, it’s only barely audible, which I tend to reckon would be right.
In answer to your other questions…
I run the dB killer, it is too loud without IMO.
This is without https://youtu.be/W9ulUhJgVwk
This is with https://youtu.be/Li8qvFVuAJ8
I’ll admit they sound scarily similar, but the second one is in confined space.
Suffice to say, it is too loud without, both at idle and in use. I find that with the restrictor in, it is ok but I would not want it louder. I’m away at present, but I’ll shoot another video when I get back with the “quieter” version out in the open.
In reality, it’s about the same as a Ducati monster but a bit more mellow. On the road at 100 kph, it’s really ideal.
I’ll get back to you.
Thank you so much. Especially about the tip on the oval shape. :thumb:
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Bump for Dirk.
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Just had a shop make the connector pipe and mount the new "Yoshimura" muffler. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256803455557656.html
I am planning on moving the muffler support more to the center. The vertical movement is very little but the passenger peg bracket has more horizontal movement than I would have expected. Sounds great. I can hear it when revving and accelerating but when cruising I only hear the wind noise. Side bags are about half full and have everything I want to carry for my day trips. Happy to get the tail bag off as it was a PITA to swing a leg up and over. I also need to figure out a way to keep the sidestand off the connector pipe. My size 14 hits it now. :embarassed:
(https://i.ibb.co/ZTXvy7V/P1010615.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZTXvy7V)
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Nice work.
That muffler doesn’t seem too expensive.
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Thanks. I'm really happy with the way it turned out. The oval Mivv was almost as big horizontal as the round one. Had a hard time finding a less fat muffler and this one seemed to be the best. Have not tried it without the db killers out as I am sure it will be too loud. Thanks for the great low muffler idea. :bike-037:
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Thanks. I'm really happy with the way it turned out. The oval Mivv was almost as big horizontal as the round one. Had a hard time finding a less fat muffler and this one seemed to be the best. Have not tried it without the db killers out as I am sure it will be too loud. Thanks for the great low muffler idea. :bike-037:
No worries.
It looks good, but if you ditch the rear ‘pegs you can get a more upward sweep to it. In addition to any perceived aesthetic benefit, you’ll have more clearance.
Once you’ve cut the left one off, the right doesn’t hurt as much… :rolleyes:
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Sorry but it looks horrible for mine. Looks like what it is, an $80 muffler solution. Horizontal mufflers are a bit 50's Pommie bike. Like an old Norton International.
Phil
(https://i.ibb.co/cLk8Jrx/Norton-1957-International-Model-30.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cLk8Jrx)
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The perspective on the shot distorts the image somewhat. A side on view with the bike up straight would give a different impression.
You can see how big the helmet looks by comparison to the bike, it is a distortion by the lens I think.
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"................... .........decommissi oned Bulgarian circus cart."
THIS, ladies and germs, it the shining star of the thread to date!
Lovely bike, mate. Well done.
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Caffeino, you can see the extra space available by removing the rear pegs.
(https://i.ibb.co/2yj7swj/1576-CBAD-BEE0-4-BDD-8-D06-BE24244-F4-F6-F.png) (https://ibb.co/2yj7swj)
(https://i.ibb.co/R3xwXyB/954-B5136-772-C-4-D77-B80-D-6-F617-E89-EF57.jpg) (https://ibb.co/R3xwXyB)
I could pretty easily work something out later if I wanted to re instate them.
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"................... .........decommissi oned Bulgarian circus cart."
THIS, ladies and germs, it the shining star of the thread to date!
I can see it now…(wavy dream sequence with harp music overlay…).
Some dirty faced hairy ex weight lifter, wearing a torn dark blue singlet, cigarette in mouth and forearms like Popeye, introducing the “lady” :wink:, on the trapeze above 15 mesmerised fans.
I think he might be the same guy with the drink cart talking to Homer.
https://youtu.be/4NFv5IGP2uA
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SPOT on!
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Caffeino, you can see the extra space available by removing the rear pegs.
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I could pretty easily work something out later if I wanted to re instate them.
(https://ibb.co/2yj7swj)
As the wife does not like to ride I could easily remove them. Have also had a slight problem with them not wanting to fold down. Gotta keep oiling them up.
I really do not need any more space but it may improve the looks.......but more concerned with function over style. ;)
Already have had to take a dab when off road that would have been painful with a solid case out there. :O
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Bumped for Double Thumper.
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Whew! Super awesome Huzo. Thank you.
This is quite the project. Looks to be some exciting reading.
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Whew! Super awesome Huzo. Thank you.
This is quite the project. Looks to be some exciting reading.
Yeah, but it’s done bit by bit.
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Caffeino, you can see the extra space available by removing the rear pegs.
(https://i.ibb.co/2yj7swj/1576-CBAD-BEE0-4-BDD-8-D06-BE24244-F4-F6-F.png) (https://ibb.co/2yj7swj)
(https://i.ibb.co/R3xwXyB/954-B5136-772-C-4-D77-B80-D-6-F617-E89-EF57.jpg) (https://ibb.co/R3xwXyB)
I could pretty easily work something out later if I wanted to re instate them.
I'm sure with your skill set and imagination that you could cobble something up. Currently priced at $105 (USD), would it be worth the troubles? Since you cut the right side also, I guess the price would be doubled. But so would the cobbling. :grin:
https://www.af1racing.com/2B005631-MACHINED-LH-PASSENGER-SUPPORT---2B005631
https://www.af1racing.com/2B005628-MACHINED-RH-PASSENGER-SUPPORT---2B005628
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This is how it ended up with the panniers on.
(https://i.ibb.co/3WmrG3L/9-DDC916-C-B9-A1-4416-9009-D49-BB0722150.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3WmrG3L)
There is now a massive space between the inside of the left case and the wheel.
I saw a post where some bloke has fitted a tool case in there.
That engine needs to be silver.
Hmmmm.....
I was thinking of doing something similar with my exhaust and muffler. Also, cut, weld, and modify the left luggage mounting rack to be similar to the right one. Modify the left box to fill in the muffler space. Or mount a right box on the new mount. The lock would face forward but I'm not OCD.
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Huzo-You seem to be looking to remove a lot of black parts. Have you considered painting the front fender red?
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Huzo-You seem to be looking to remove a lot of black parts. Have you considered painting the front fender red?
I did for a while, but thought it might look….”cheap”.
I have not given up the idea of removing the engine, stripping the paint and doing it in silver, like the air cooled GS BMW’s.
Also, I would have to get EXACTLY the same red or it would be an unmitigated disaster.
The black on the front is a somewhat subtle extension of the black over the tank and the rear subframe/fender….(I think). :undecided: