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Title: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on March 18, 2012, 07:43:57 AM
Hy guys!

Regards from Croatia,

This is mine MG Le Mans IV. I've been riding this bike for 7 years now, without any problems, now is time for some refreshing...all the wires need to be changed, starter need also to be refreshed, paint on the frame is all scratched...I would like another color...all together, a lot of work... ;D

Here is the bike:
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI/009.jpg)

But, when the fuel tank and seat is down, picture is much different:
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI/003.jpg)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI/004.jpg)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI/007.jpg)

The plan is:
- take everything down
- sandblast the frame
- paint the frame
- paint the rest of the bike
- make a new seat - for only one, cafe race seat
- engine is running fine, no oil consumption, no smoke, no "noise", maybe just to change clutch
- new tires
- new electrical installation

So .. much work ...but I have time, desire to do this...and I got some money.... ;D
I will do everything alone, except the wires...I hate wires....this I will leave to my friend...he likes wires...

Till next time...Regards
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: BillinAbilene on March 18, 2012, 08:07:32 AM

Best of luck with your project!  Keep us posted.

Bill

Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Guzziscoot on March 18, 2012, 08:14:52 AM
It's a very very nice! Should make an awesome cafe'. Post more pics with progress please.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on March 18, 2012, 08:35:23 AM
Thanks guys  ;-T

My only problem at this time is that everything I need (parts) I have to order from outside (Germany and Italy). That will take my time and more money, but that's how it goes....
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on March 18, 2012, 02:19:37 PM
Everything is removed, frame is ready for sandblasting. In the meanwhile, I'm dealing with cleaning and refurbishing small parts, like, headlamp, coil holder...etc.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI/017.jpg)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI/010.jpg)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI/013.jpg)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI/016.jpg)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI/012.jpg)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI/015.jpg)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI/011.jpg)

Now...my worry is drive shaft; it has some rust on surface...I will try to remove the rust, teeths are ok, just surface rust. If not, I will buy a new one.
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI/021.jpg)
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: LeRoy on March 18, 2012, 09:51:11 PM
If it will be helpful, I can send you a CD with all of the factory manuals (Workshop, Parts, Owner's, etc). The CD also has many other useful things for your project: wiring diagrams (for your friend who likes wires), engine assembly procedures, transmission rebuild, carburetor manuals. It also has copies of the Le Mans IV brochures, advertisements and parts catalogs from Moto Guzzi spares suppliers.

Send me a PM with your mailing address and I will send you the CD. Free of charge.

By the way, very nice bike and the basis of a great project. I have a 1986 Le Mans IV myself since it was new.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on March 23, 2012, 04:17:05 PM
A little help, please..

Is this ready for change?

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI/diff01.jpg)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI/diff02.jpg)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI/diff03.jpg)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI/diff04.jpg)

Maybe a stupid question, but, it's my first time....
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on March 23, 2012, 04:31:15 PM
It's history. Sorry about the bad news.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on March 24, 2012, 07:29:18 AM
Thank you for answer. Now, there is no alternative but to obtain a new crownwheel/pinion set.

I have taken the bolts on plate in wich is the oil seal, but now I don't know how to remove this plate. Is there some trick how to take this plate down (number 23 on picture), without braking something?

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI/321c144a.jpg)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI/diff-dio.jpg)
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: thomas on March 27, 2012, 03:43:16 PM
In my humble opinion those splines are still in very good shape. There are no shiny wear marks anywhere and the tooth profile on the splines is like new.
As a test, fit the connecting sleeve back over them and feel for play by wiggling it back and forth. I'm confident that there will be virtually no play. You can then perform the same test on the gearbox output splines and I don't think you'll see much wear there either. If there is any wear it is likely to be on the connecting sleeve.

I think you should just replace the big main oil seal and keep on using the final drive without stripping it further. Don't mess with something that isn't broken. Many Tonti-framed Guzzis have done a lot more mileage than yours without the need to replace the final drive pinion shaft.

Regards
Thomas
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Pancake on March 28, 2012, 03:22:02 AM
The plate (no23) was a bugger to remove in my case! I had to strip mine apart because something had tried to escape from the drive box and made a small hole in the side which leaked oil. It turned out to be one of the crown wheel bolts which had loosened and come off, then later got flung at the inside of the casing repeatedly until it made a hole.

Anyway my cover plate seemed to be glued on, or at least had some kind of mastic or something which made it a real bugger to remove! Apparently this is not uncommon on mid eighties bikes, according to someone from Motomecca in the UK. Try heating the perimeter to loosen whatever is sticking it and striking the flanges with a wooden mallet or soft hammer. I ended up damaging the sides of the cover (when trying to prise it off with a big screwdriver) in getting it off but made repairs with chemical metal before reassembly.

There may be better ways, and I hope there are, but that worked for me but not in a way that seems correct- I shouldn't have to damage something to get it apart!

Don't forget to replace all the crown wheel bolts when you get in there.

Good luck!
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Luxexterior on March 28, 2012, 03:36:04 AM
Looks like you have a really nice bike that is about to get even better. ;-T

The splines on your photo don't look too bad, I've seen worse. Has there been a problem while you were riding the bike?

A good European source of Guzzi parts at reasonable price is Reboot (email; rebootguzzispares@hotmail.co.uk) they are a UK business based in France. They break a lot of Guzzi's old & new & are also really helpful & reasonably priced.

I love Croatia Its one of my favourite countries, I particularly like the Dubrovnik area & try to get over there as often as I can. Good luck with your project. ;D
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: steve_earwig on March 28, 2012, 03:45:23 AM
Hi there, I'm Steve and, apparently, I like wires ??? Well, not really but I used to be a telephone linesman so a handfull of wires doesn't make me want to run away screaming ;D

I've joined your board to do some more research on Molex connectors (wish I'd found it sooner but it looks like I've got it right...)

Anyway, while I'm here I can give you a swift update on Goran's Guzzi - he's got the cover off (tap it round with a very soft drift) and yes, I'm all for "if it aint broke don't fix it" but the final drive is so close to a write-off it's a miracle it was still going. I'm sure Goran will post some pics when he gets time (he has one of those horrible job things too, poor chap) but, similar to you Pancake, one of the bolts had not just come loose, it had sheered off :o I've only seen pictures myself but it looks like there are shards of metal embedded in the crownwheel. I've been on the bike but never detected anything strange coming from the back end (too much strange from everywhere else perhaps :P) I can only think it's continued existence was down to the numpty that had it apart last not troubling himself with the cover shims, leaving the pinion room to go over the damage without locking the final drive & turning Goran into a pedestrian...
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on March 28, 2012, 09:51:57 AM
In my humble opinion those splines are still in very good shape. There are no shiny wear marks anywhere and the tooth profile on the splines is like new.
As a test, fit the connecting sleeve back over them and feel for play by wiggling it back and forth. I'm confident that there will be virtually no play. You can then perform the same test on the gearbox output splines and I don't think you'll see much wear there either. If there is any wear it is likely to be on the connecting sleeve.

I think you should just replace the big main oil seal and keep on using the final drive without stripping it further. Don't mess with something that isn't broken. Many Tonti-framed Guzzis have done a lot more mileage than yours without the need to replace the final drive pinion shaft.

Regards
Thomas

Take another look at picture 2. There's not much left of the splines. That's what normally trashes the rear drive. It costs quite a bit more for a crown wheel and pinion than a used servicable rear drive can be bought for.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: thomas on March 28, 2012, 02:46:29 PM
If the insides are knackered you have no choice but to replace everything.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on March 28, 2012, 03:30:22 PM
In my humble opinion those splines are still in very good shape.

No, my friend, it isn't....especially if you make a lot of kilometers with the bike...I ask on this forum, is this ok, and when I look in original spare part catalog, then I see it's far from a good one...

Pictures?....just one moment please, my daughter will now go to sleep...I hope... ;D
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on March 28, 2012, 03:49:47 PM
Here's what happens inside.....fun and games...and far, far away from good...

Screws that hold the crownwheel were completely free, I unscrew them with my hand..one has broken sometime, but not while I am the owner, so the case hase some damage.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI/Picture-005.jpg)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI/Picture-008.jpg)

Remains of the bolt head...
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI/Picture-002.jpg)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI/Picture-004.jpg)

And, I must say...that didn't happend to me, because if did, surely would have heard that...so, this is inside for 7 years now....and 100.000 km...I think I'm a lucky guy...
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Pancake on March 28, 2012, 04:14:05 PM
Check the threads in the part which the crown wheel bolts to because when the threads were partially stripped in the hole where the bolt had come out of (the one which rattled around and tried to get out, leaving a patina of marks very similar to those in your photo). Not only that, a couple of others which were merely loose also had weak threads which could not take the torque of re tightening. I eventually had the whole lot helicoiled. The high tensile bolts are expensive and I don't want you to damage them by trying to tighten them into damaged threads and then have to go and buy a load more as I did.

You said that some of the bolts were only hand tight? Check those ones particularly, run a cheap bolt into it and see if it comes back out in perfect condition before you try one of the expensive ones.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: kidneb on March 28, 2012, 04:44:10 PM
Splines are surely close to worn out and crown wheel knackered,- new drive needed.
When I bought my LM3 , imported from Italy with only 24000 km on the clock, I found fragments of a broken crown wheel tooth in the rear drive,- big lump actually. Glad I found it in time.
I just want to warn you about buying a new drive from Stein Dinse in Germany.They are not original Guzzi drives, and there are reports from people saying they can`t be shimmed up properly.
Better find a used original one in good condition.
 And there we are-
 I do have a perfectly nice original 7/33 drive (crown wheel- and pinion drive correctly shimmed in its housing) on my shelf, which I believe I can do without.- If you should be interested.
 And believe me,- I am not a business man. I just like to drive my Guzzi and keep it going,- and I like the bike you`re working on.
 I can send you pictures of course,- if wanted.

 Cheers and good luck with the project anyway.

      
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: kidneb on March 28, 2012, 04:46:10 PM
Check the threads in the part which the crown wheel bolts to because when the threads were partially stripped in the hole where the bolt had come out of (the one which rattled around and tried to get out, leaving a patina of marks very similar to those in your photo). Not only that, a couple of others which were merely loose also had weak threads which could not take the torque of re tightening. I eventually had the whole lot helicoiled. The high tensile bolts are expensive and I don't want you to damage them by trying to tighten them into damaged threads and then have to go and buy a load more as I did.

You said that some of the bolts were only hand tight? Check those ones particularly, run a cheap bolt into it and see if it comes back out in perfect condition before you try one of the expensive ones.


 :+1
What the man says
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on March 28, 2012, 04:51:41 PM
I just want to warn you about buying a new drive from Stein Dinse in Germany.They are not original Guzzi drives

Yes, I heard of it from a friend of mine, who lives in Germany. Tomorrow I'm going to see a friend of mine, to see what he have for me. If there is no other way, (and I will know this tomorrow...) please, tell me on PM details about your crown wheel- and pinion, price, payment etc....

Thanks in advance and good night everyone....and don't forget; work work work and then deep sleep....that's my moto....except Moto G...
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Luxexterior on March 29, 2012, 09:12:21 AM
Here's what happens inside.....fun and games...and far, far away from good...

Screws that hold the crownwheel were completely free, I unscrew them with my hand..one has broken sometime, but not while I am the owner, so the case hase some damage.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI/Picture-005.jpg)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI/Picture-008.jpg)

Remains of the bolt head...
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI/Picture-002.jpg)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI/Picture-004.jpg)

And, I must say...that didn't happend to me, because if did, surely would have heard that...so, this is inside for 7 years now....and 100.000 km...I think I'm a lucky guy...




Yeah you are absolutely right its dead. Sorry I couldn't see it on the first pics. If you don't get sorted with kidneb, drop Reboot a line they are currently breaking two LM1000's.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: kidneb on March 29, 2012, 09:23:00 AM
(http://s13.postimage.org/iapzqv34j/Picture_008.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/iapzqv34j/)

Also pay attention to the fact that Moto Guzzi now prescribes schnoor washers and Loctite instead of the 4 lock plates.



(http://s17.postimage.org/ty6pzk52z/DSC00048.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ty6pzk52z/)
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on March 29, 2012, 09:58:44 AM
I think that I will use lock plates and Loctite...
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: mtiberio on March 29, 2012, 05:41:34 PM
what is that bike? It is not a LM IV. Looks like a square fin motor in a T-3 frame. Most certainly not a lemans 3 or lemans 4 frame...
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on March 30, 2012, 12:53:07 AM
And how did you come to that conclusion?
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: mtiberio on March 30, 2012, 08:58:24 AM
Lemans IV had upswept frame rails behind the shocks, and an extended steering head, and an extra hunk of half tubing extending up from the backbone to the top of said longer steering head. Both the Lemans III  and Lemans IV used the back bone as a breather box. I see none of the associated plumbing. Also the Lemans IV used a small horizontal foot master cylinder. That bike has the larger bottle that was last seen on the Lemans III...
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: mtiberio on March 30, 2012, 09:02:56 AM
Not saying it is not a neat bike. Looks like someone grafted a Lemans IV type front end on it, and a LM IV chin fairing. That is a early Tonti tank (like T or convert) that had been hammered in (I like it). The swingarm looks like a short swingarm, not long like the Lemans III or IV. I do think it is a T-3 that had a motor and front end graft. That would explain the worn out rear drive splines...

Tell me what size rear tire and wheel width does it have? Give a picture of the rear brake assy. Is the swingarm notched so the tire clears it???
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on March 30, 2012, 09:40:37 AM
Agreed, it's not a LeMans 3 or 4. Didn't want to say anything, but now that it's out in the open..
It doesn't really matter.  ;D It will be a kool scooter when you're done with it. ;-T
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: st2lemans on March 30, 2012, 09:55:18 AM
I'm currently rebuilding my LMIV/sidecar, after having the frame repaired (second one I've cracked, ended up repairing frame #1 as it was in better shape than frame #2), and can definitely say that the frame, wiring harness, and rear brake master are not from a LMIV (I have two, an '85 and an '86).

However, it looks like a nice bike!

Tom
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: mtiberio on March 30, 2012, 09:58:25 AM
Heck, it even has a T-3 headlight bucket... That said, I wonder if it could be a Mille GT, that would explain the front end and peg hangers.... The instrument cluster has Lemans II/cx100/Early SP written all over it. Not the big tach, little speedo of the Lemans III/IV...

I have built a few FrankenGuzzis in my day, this one is a real puzzler...
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: st2lemans on March 30, 2012, 10:15:05 AM
I wonder if it could be a Mille GT

No, the frame is older as it doesn't have the breather connections.

Tom
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: mtiberio on March 30, 2012, 10:18:35 AM
No, the frame is older as it doesn't have the breather connections.

Tom


quite right, I was confused by the headlight ears...
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on March 30, 2012, 10:19:03 AM
*Assuming* the Mille is the same as the Strada, it uses the LeMans frame. Take the body work off of the Strada, and it's the same as the LeMans 1000.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on April 03, 2012, 02:44:13 PM
I have to say a big "THANK YOU" to member "LeRoy" for sending me a CD full of useful things about MG. Wiring diagrams, user manual, workshop manual etc....Once more, thank you very much, I appreciate the help and your goodwill.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on April 03, 2012, 08:27:45 PM
I have to say a big "THANK YOU" to member "LeRoy" for sending me a CD full of useful things about MG. Wiring diagrams, user manual, workshop manual etc....Once more, thank you very much, I appreciate the help and your goodwill.

LeRoy's stuff is awesome. He's a great asset to the Guzzi community.  ;-T
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on April 10, 2012, 02:04:20 PM
Finally....new crown wheel and pinion drive. All new bearings and gaskets. All tested, no errors. The only thing that's missing is new oil seal.   ;D

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI/Picture-012.jpg)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI/Picture-013.jpg)

All clean:
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI/Picture-015-novi-dif.jpg)

Next; to clean wheels...
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: chuck peterson on April 10, 2012, 10:47:51 PM
just a reminder Brake Cleaner doesn't play well with seals and rubber bits...best to keep the two seperated
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on April 11, 2012, 06:51:25 AM
I know, thank you. I clean with WD-40...
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on October 14, 2012, 12:38:30 PM
A little help please...In this moment, I'm rebuilding brake sistem (brake calippers, new pistons inside...) and while I'm doing this, I was thinking to also rebuild rear brake master cylinder.

This is the model:
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/cilindar_zpsa56057c1.jpg)

Now....how to take piston out of cylinder?
On Google I found this:

....Remove the master cylinder, dump out the brake fluid, take off the lever and check to see if there's a circlip holding the piston in place. (Some have them, some don't). Remove the circlip, if applicable, and insert a slender drift into the fluid's exit orifice (where the line connects), and smack out the piston. While Brembo offers a special drift for this, an old motorcycle spoke of the correct diameter will suffice.

Is this the way to do this?
My doesn't have circlip....or I don't see one....
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: st2lemans on March 18, 2013, 08:58:44 AM
Yes, that is the way to do it.

Tom
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on December 10, 2013, 12:39:47 PM
After a long pause, finally, I have time to go back to my bike....

In this long period of time I have done some things: sandblasted and powdercoated the frame and the rest of metal parts, prepare fuel tank for painting.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/Picture-019_zps3e0710a5.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/Picture-019_zps3e0710a5.jpg.html)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/Picture-020_zps882d1587.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/Picture-020_zps882d1587.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3397_zpsa59befde.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3397_zpsa59befde.jpg.html)

Engine is prepared for the frame:
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/mg03_zps4e7336ed.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/mg03_zps4e7336ed.jpg.html)

So far...so good...next month all other parts will be painted, in the meanwhile, I have things to do...put engine in frame, put front and rear fork, and start whit wires....
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on December 10, 2013, 01:16:53 PM
Nice.. ;-T
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: guzzi ride on December 10, 2013, 01:38:47 PM
Looking real good! :pop
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on December 10, 2013, 01:54:41 PM
Thank you.

Here is more pictures of frame parts; I'm very satisfied with how the powder coating was done. Much better than usual paint...

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3406_zps93cc7ebf.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3406_zps93cc7ebf.jpg.html)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3389_zps06bb2a62.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3389_zps06bb2a62.jpg.html)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3395_zps3d0461a8.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3395_zps3d0461a8.jpg.html)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3390_zps0a887eb8.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3390_zps0a887eb8.jpg.html)

Engine and gearbox has been completly rebuild; in engine: new pistons, main bearings, big end bearings, new valves, valve guides, valve springs, timing chain.....in gearbox; all new oil seals and bearings.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/masina-slozena_zps44d5b37e.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/masina-slozena_zps44d5b37e.jpg.html)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/masina03_zpsde86b76d.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/masina03_zpsde86b76d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on December 26, 2013, 02:34:58 AM
Here is some more progress; engine is in frame, rear fork is ready for mounting, final drive also. Some smaller parts on the frame (coil holder etc..) are zinc coated. So far, everything is ok and with no problems...hope it will stay that way...

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3455_zpsd18e2f6e.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3455_zpsd18e2f6e.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3476_zps50e542d9.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3476_zps50e542d9.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3477_zpsd11d7379.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3477_zpsd11d7379.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3478_zpsd42b93b9.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3478_zpsd42b93b9.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3475_zpsc77f0459.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3475_zpsc77f0459.jpg.html)
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Tom on December 26, 2013, 04:13:29 AM
 ;-T 

When will you move it to the floor?
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on December 26, 2013, 04:25:06 AM
Hm....good question... :)

My next plan was to buy new tyres. Here in Croatia is a little problem with my dimension, so I have to wait a little longer for delivery...
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: canuck750 on December 26, 2013, 12:12:10 PM
Great attention to detail, the paint finish is very nice. This is going to be a great restoration.

Thanks for posting your build :+1

Cheers
Jim
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: oldmxdog61u on December 26, 2013, 12:17:59 PM
Very nice!  Someday I hope to do the same.  I like riding mine so much, it will have to wait. Keep posting,  you're doing a great job.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on December 26, 2013, 01:05:00 PM
Thanks guys. I appreciate your comments.

This bike deserved all of these work and money. Can't wait to ride this bike again.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: pete mcgee on December 26, 2013, 02:58:02 PM
I powdercoated my frame when I rebuilt my Lemans 3, pay close attention to making clean earth points on the frame for the wiring and make the main earth from the battery one of the battery tray bolts on the gearbox not the joint where the battery box and the frame connect. You can also run earth wires direct from the battery neg terminal to the steering yoke and the tail lights. Saves a lot of head scratching and swearing down the road.
Nice work keep posting.
Cheers
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on December 26, 2013, 05:53:28 PM
Pretty.. ;-T
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: double.d on December 26, 2013, 07:27:46 PM
Great work, looking forward to seeing this come together.

More  :PICS!:  please.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on December 28, 2013, 05:31:24 AM
Final drive ready for mounting:

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3494_zps2492eefc.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3494_zps2492eefc.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3492_zps5eb76c54.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3492_zps5eb76c54.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3493_zps4ff40aca.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3493_zps4ff40aca.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3496_zpsf0404a08.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3496_zpsf0404a08.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3497_zpsfbc1720a.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3497_zpsfbc1720a.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3498_zps4f120c8c.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3498_zps4f120c8c.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3501_zpsfeb039c4.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3501_zpsfeb039c4.jpg.html)
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: oldmxdog61u on December 28, 2013, 10:20:42 AM
I love these threads! Thank you!
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: canuck750 on December 28, 2013, 11:59:22 AM
Looking good ;-T
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Guzzistajohn on December 28, 2013, 12:05:52 PM
Very nice, I did all that back in 2000 with this bike.
(http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w605/guzzistajohn1/ride003_zpsebf59825.jpg) (http://s1332.photobucket.com/user/guzzistajohn1/media/ride003_zpsebf59825.jpg.html)
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Tom on December 28, 2013, 01:43:37 PM
Final drive ready for mounting:

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3501_zpsfeb039c4.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3501_zpsfeb039c4.jpg.html)

Great work.  If you run into problems with hooking up the swingarm.  It might be easier with the rear drive off.  Less weight to wrestle with.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: guzzi ride on December 29, 2013, 09:13:52 AM
Very nice, I did all that back in 2000 with this bike.
(http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/w605/guzzistajohn1/ride003_zpsebf59825.jpg) (http://s1332.photobucket.com/user/guzzistajohn1/media/ride003_zpsebf59825.jpg.html)

Very nice! Earlier this year there was a CX on CL locally that I still regret not buying. :'(
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on April 06, 2014, 04:59:22 AM
Little update: parts arrived from painter. ;D I'm very satisfied with the job.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/th_001_zpse9d08ac4.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/001_zpse9d08ac4.jpg.html)

Except that, game with wiring is almost done, yesterday I have put new tires on rims, put the front fork on the frame...so..everyth ing is coming to it's end...

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/th_004_zps86b3ab82.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/004_zps86b3ab82.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/th_002_zps74844ae8.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/002_zps74844ae8.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/th_003_zps384ca522.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/003_zps384ca522.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/th_005_zps8283b2ea.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/005_zps8283b2ea.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/th_006_zps44691e5f.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/006_zps44691e5f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on April 06, 2014, 05:00:48 AM
And....finally on wheels..... ;-T
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/th_na-kotacima_zps404bbb91.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/na-kotacima_zps404bbb91.jpg.html)

Everything ran its course, the only thing, I have a little free time...Electrical installation is 90% complete and now I decide not to put the original instrument console, I'd rather made something like this:

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/th_konzola_zpsa6df8204.png) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/konzola_zpsa6df8204.png.html)

I think it's much more elegant than the old one...

Well...for now, this is it...
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Tom on April 06, 2014, 07:11:27 PM
Thanks for the update.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on April 06, 2014, 07:16:16 PM
Very nice work, sir..  ;-T
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on April 07, 2014, 01:48:56 AM
Thank you  ;-T

I would ask for a little help with brake control valve assembling...On the picture is the parts that I have and I don't know how goes what...maybe I'm missing some parts, don't know, this is the way that I get this...Please help...

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/th_DSCN3626_zpsd4916b3c.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/DSCN3626_zpsd4916b3c.jpg.html)

One of the rubber ring goes on top of the valve, so the cap does not fall...(the one in the middle) other two don't make any sense....help is still needed.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Rob Morton on April 07, 2014, 02:52:54 AM
"My doesn't have circlip....or I don't see one...."

If this is the case, I would be inclined to try an air line through the other end like you do with callipers using bleed nipple holes?
But as I have never had to rebuild my master cylinder I might be completely wrong?

By putting the tubing from the master cylinder back on you will reduce the orifice or hole size to inject the high pressure air line.
Ensure master cylinder cap is on tight enough to make it air tight or as good as.
Fire piston out into card board box so as not to damage it as it will come out at the speed of a bullet.

 :)

Rob
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on April 07, 2014, 10:09:12 AM
It hase circlip...on the top, where the red cap goes...didn't look good enough. I'm speaking about this brake valve.
But I don't know how and where these two o-ring goes.... ???
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: kevdog3019 on April 07, 2014, 11:45:09 AM
That's great work!  Love to see builds as it inspires!  Congrats on being so close to the finish line.
-Kevin
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on April 25, 2014, 01:41:52 AM
Here is some more updates:

My friend finally make me a Guzzi decals...I must admit that I am very satisfied.  ;D
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/rezer_zps321f8cc4.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/rezer_zps321f8cc4.jpg.html)

Instrument cups are here; I am very pleased with the quality and price; for 38 euro (pair) is not worth to make them...
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/kut2_zpsfc245b05.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/kut2_zpsfc245b05.jpg.html)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/kut1_zps6031ec19.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/kut1_zps6031ec19.jpg.html)

I also managed to get the aluminum plate for console; This weekend I hope to have time to cut the console and place it on the bike, so I could finish the wires...
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/kut3_zps969fc899.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/kut3_zps969fc899.jpg.html)

So far...this is it...
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Tom on April 25, 2014, 02:16:08 AM
Good work. ;-T
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Pancake on April 25, 2014, 05:41:13 PM
I made an aluminium console like that for my bike out of 2mm plate. It worked and looked great. A friend said:'That'll snap off eventually'.'Nah' I said. Sure enough he was right, it snapped off, the whole thing is still there but held together with cable ties until I get it sorted out.

I didn't want to use more than 2mm because I was worried that the handlebar clamps would not clamp onto the handlebars properly if they have to bite onto this as well, also, and importantly, I had a piece of 2mm plate knocking around.

Looks like what you have there is a bit thicker so I guess you'll be alright and judging by the quality of your work so far on this project I'm sure you'll do a far better job than I did. I can't wait to see the finished article. Love that tank and the badge by the way.

Excellent.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on April 26, 2014, 12:35:22 AM
Thanks ;-T

My plate is 6mm...you can't see very well in the picture. Think that I should have no problems with this..
I even thinking that somehow, connect the console with bracket light, just in case...So that all looks elegant and solid.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lawries on April 26, 2014, 01:27:15 AM
Excellent work, that is going to be one beautiful bike!

I was in Croatia last year on my Guzzi, stayed with some lovely people very near to Plitvice (Plitvička). You live in a beautiful country and the roads are motorcycle heaven. Only problem was I saw no other guzzi's, just like Italy   ???
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on April 26, 2014, 02:31:24 AM
Yes, unfortunately, there's not much Guzzi's on our roads...
Most people I talked to, they have a fear of the Italian bikes, especially MG's. Apparently they are not good and reliable... ;D ;D People have more faith in the Japanese technology...
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Tom on April 26, 2014, 03:58:53 PM
Have to agree with low amount of Mg's on road.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: canuck750 on April 27, 2014, 09:04:55 AM
Splendid workmanship ;-T Its a real nice looking (and I am sure running) bike.

 :PICS!:

Cheers
Jim
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Luxexterior on April 28, 2014, 09:45:15 AM
Looking great ;-T. Love to see pics of the bike when its finished. On the subject of Guzzi's in Croatia there's a bar in Dubrovnik called Roxy that has an old small capacity 2 stroke Guzzi (a Dingo?) hanging from the ceiling.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on April 28, 2014, 09:56:00 AM
Yes, I know the place and owner.  ;-T
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Luxexterior on April 28, 2014, 10:16:40 AM
Its a great bar, I go there whenever I'm in Dubrovnik. The first time I visited I had to ask for directions from the staff working on reception at the hotel I was staying at, at first they were reluctant to tell me because they were worried about my safety! ;D
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on April 28, 2014, 03:19:30 PM

Update....

On Saturday I had the best intentions to end up console work....but....my friends come to my workshop with 5kg of meat and two crates of beer... :D ...So, any work was out of the question...

Today I managed to make a paper version; ready for transfer to the aluminum plate:

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/sat02_zps4895a7df.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/sat02_zps4895a7df.jpg.html)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/sat01_zpsa7d2a214.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/sat01_zpsa7d2a214.jpg.html)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/sat03_zpsbe428392.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/sat03_zpsbe428392.jpg.html)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/sat04_zps1ff7e016.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/sat04_zps1ff7e016.jpg.html)

Here's how it looks now when the fuel tank is on the bike:

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/043_zpsca829f0d.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/043_zpsca829f0d.jpg.html)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/045_zpsbbb9099b.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/045_zpsbbb9099b.jpg.html)
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/044_zps28e6ba23.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/044_zps28e6ba23.jpg.html)

Cheers for now...
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Rob Morton on April 29, 2014, 01:38:57 AM
Good idea doing a paper cutout first.  ;-T

Rob
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Tobit on April 29, 2014, 08:45:47 AM
Bob Marley, Marshall Tucker, a gorgeous Guzzi and a very cool workshop.  Plus friends that bring over meat and beverage.  Very nice.

 :+1 ;-T
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: oldmxdog61u on April 29, 2014, 08:58:20 AM
I have those albums too.  Nice set up!!
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on April 29, 2014, 09:19:11 AM
Frank Zappa and Allman Brothers Band are still my favorites... ;D
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: oldmxdog61u on April 29, 2014, 09:31:15 AM
Zappa was an original for sure. Wasn't one of his kids named moon unit?  Sheesh, the trivia that collects in your brain...
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on April 29, 2014, 09:36:01 AM
Moon Unit,Dweezil,Ahmet Emuukha Rodan and Diva Thin Muffin Pigeen.... ;D
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: dan_s on April 29, 2014, 12:12:39 PM
Very nice work!

Here's an alternative clockboard for a LM V1000, a friend's bike.
(http://img2.tapuz.co.il/communafiles/53124260.jpg)
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on April 29, 2014, 12:16:40 PM
How is fixed? Is there any problems while driving?
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: dan_s on April 29, 2014, 01:24:21 PM
Can't tell you, it's a friend's bike, not mine. The simplest way is to let the clocks rest by the rim on the board. To lock it down  use cups like yours, held by the hand nuts on the bottom of the clocks.
If you're interested in more info I can send you my friend's email.
(http://img2.tapuz.co.il/communafiles/53303477.jpg)
(http://img2.tapuz.co.il/communafiles/53771525.jpg)
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on April 29, 2014, 02:02:37 PM
For now, I'm ok, I know how to handle this with my console, but thanks anyway.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on April 30, 2014, 09:18:14 AM
Another question; I usually put 3 liters of engine oil in my Guzzi. Engine has and oil pan spacer (extension). Am I doing well so far with 3 liters or wrong?
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: LeRoy on April 30, 2014, 02:29:03 PM
Three liters of oil is proper. The spacer is to increase the air volume in the sump, not to increase oil capacity. This was done to reduce oil blow-by out the breather. Earlier versions of the engine without the sump spacer could generate high pressure within the crankcase, enough to cause excess oil blowing out the breather.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on April 30, 2014, 04:12:56 PM
Thank you, LeRoy.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Rob Morton on May 01, 2014, 01:22:31 AM
"Earlier versions of the engine without the sump spacer could generate high pressure within the crankcase, enough to cause excess oil blowing out the breather."

Earlier versions of this size of engine without the sump spacer could generate high pressure within the crankcase, enough to cause excess oil blowing out the breather.

IMHO the earlier smaller capacity typically 700/750cc don't require the spacer because they are less stressed and you don't get the build up of pressure with the smaller diameter pistons pumping up and down, so less crankcase pressure, if that makes sense?
You can still have oil blowing out of breather if you overfill the crankcase with oil, even with the 700cc engine.

 :)

Rob
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on May 01, 2014, 04:02:44 AM
Today I received an interesting call...a man called me and offered me the front and rear wheel from MG California Aluminium.. ;D and a very interesting price...I was wondering if the rear wheel from Cali Alu fits on my Guzzi's rear drive? Front wheel should match, but I will have to buy other brake calipers and front master cil.

Never ending story...... ;D
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on May 01, 2014, 06:30:30 AM
Console is finally cut  ;D
I only have to cut opening for instruments and some final touches (holes for LED's, polishing...)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3701_zpsc6b919ad.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3701_zpsc6b919ad.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3702_zpsc7c331a9.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3702_zpsc7c331a9.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3704_zpse14bb35e.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3704_zpse14bb35e.jpg.html)

And I managed to make mounts for the rear hazard lights:

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3696_zps0959f5b2.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3696_zps0959f5b2.jpg.html)
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Rob Morton on May 03, 2014, 02:07:06 AM
"Front wheel should match, but I will have to buy other brake calipers and front master cil."

Couldn't you sell on the bits you don't need here or on ebay?
Callipers would be easy to offload?
And front master cylinder to someone who don't change their fluid too often.  :beat_horse

 :)

Rob

Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on May 03, 2014, 02:23:42 AM
Yes Rob, I could sell bits that I don't need, but I'm still in process of thinking whether to buy this spoked wheels or not...At the moment, I'd be happy to finish the bike and finally enjoy...On the other hand, I've already spent a good deal of money on this bike...so I really don't need spoked wheels in this moment...
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Rob Morton on May 03, 2014, 02:35:27 AM
Can understand how you just want to ride it, after all your effort and expense because that's what it's for.  ;-T

Need to respray my tank and side boxes but know it means, the bike will be off the road for at least 2 weeks.  :-\
But respraying should be done in drier warmer weather. Precisely the weather you want to ride.

The maintenance, riding conundrum?

 :D

Rob
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on May 03, 2014, 04:13:05 AM
Some more updates on instrument console; everything is done, except bending and some more polishing. This will be done today.

Sorry, images were made with my phone, so they are not top quality...

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/sat05_zps81a32e62.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/sat05_zps81a32e62.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/sat08_zpsa59a519f.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/sat08_zpsa59a519f.jpg.html)

And as it usually happens...a little problem....due to the thickness of the material, instrument cups are to deep...will need to be shortened by about 5-7mm.. ;D

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/sat07_zpsad691ed8.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/sat07_zpsad691ed8.jpg.html)

All in all, I am satisfied...

Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: kevdog3019 on May 03, 2014, 11:37:43 AM
You are doing superb.  For a reasonable price I got the MG Cycle console and installed recently.  Keep up the nice work!
Kevin

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk91/kevdog3019/Mobile%20Uploads/LarioDash_zpse04adcd9.jpg)
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on May 03, 2014, 12:29:32 PM
That white rev counter is on my wishlist  ;-T

Now I'm thinking to put my ignition switch somewhere else, rather that on the inst. console...Why? The thread that holds ignition swich is 8mm...my console is made out of 6mm material...there is only 2mm thread, not enough to hold the swich...Torture never stops.. ;D

Either that or reinvent the wheel and possibly destroy what I have made so far..​​...
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: zedXmick on May 03, 2014, 12:53:20 PM
Some more updates on instrument console; everything is done, except bending and some more polishing. This will be done today.

Sorry, images were made with my phone, so they are not top quality...

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/sat05_zps81a32e62.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/sat05_zps81a32e62.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/sat08_zpsa59a519f.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/sat08_zpsa59a519f.jpg.html)

And as it usually happens...a little problem....due to the thickness of the material, instrument cups are to deep...will need to be shortened by about 5-7mm.. ;D

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/sat07_zpsad691ed8.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/sat07_zpsad691ed8.jpg.html)

All in all, I am satisfied...



That's beautiful...well done.

Maybe counter sink the ignition key hole on the back side of panel 2mm ?
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on May 03, 2014, 01:09:04 PM
Maybe counter sink the ignition key hole on the back side of panel 2mm ?
I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: NCAmother on May 03, 2014, 03:19:49 PM
Hi LeMans 1000, I was curious if that is the same tank you had before the restoration.  That gold green is classic and looks smooth with the red.   Is that a Lemans4 tank that has been hammered in?  Thanks buddy, and thanks for this thread!
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: zedXmick on May 03, 2014, 07:58:15 PM
I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean

CNC machine or router out the backside of the ignition key hole depth by 2mm. Then You won't have to start over or find a thinner sheet of aluminum.

Aluminum router bits:

http://www.toolstoday.com/c-429-aluminum-cutting-router-bits.aspx

This picture shows what I mean.(on a very big size of hole)

 (http://www.cnccookbook.com/img/OthersProjects/cncrouter1.jpg)
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on May 04, 2014, 03:18:12 AM
Ah...sorry...now i know what you mean...Thanks, this is one of idea.

I was curious if that is the same tank you had before the restoration.  That gold green is classic and looks smooth with the red.   Is that a Lemans4 tank that has been hammered in?  Thanks buddy, and thanks for this thread!
Yes, it's the same tank that was on the bike before. My tank is fully modified LM 2 tank.


Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Unkept on May 04, 2014, 07:11:21 AM
I can't wait to see the finished product. Looks great!  ;-T

-Joe
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on May 04, 2014, 02:53:12 PM
Today's update...

Carbs are on the bike... ;D  Still need to mount rubber spacers for the tank, that's why it's still a little high..

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3709_zpse325dbd1.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3709_zpse325dbd1.jpg.html)

Next; ignition lock....after a lot of thinking I decide for now to place ignition under the tank, on homemade bracket: for now...

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3711_zps9d31a248.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3711_zps9d31a248.jpg.html)

So I made one...

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3712_zps03eae1a9.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3712_zps03eae1a9.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3713_zps75a16168.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3713_zps75a16168.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3714_zps40142aaf.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/DSCN3714_zps40142aaf.jpg.html)

Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Tom on May 04, 2014, 09:48:23 PM
 ;-T
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: dan_s on May 05, 2014, 01:59:55 AM
Before doing any work with the switch and dashboard, put a 20-30A fuse on the wire from the battery to the main switch. Install in as close as possible to the battery.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on May 05, 2014, 06:19:13 AM
I did, I put the fuse.  ;)
Anyway, thanks for the advice  ;-T
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on May 08, 2014, 04:42:04 PM
A little more torture with console....

Finally mounted: But.....

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/IMAG0047_zps843b29d0.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/IMAG0047_zps843b29d0.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/IMAG0046_zps33a40295.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/IMAG0046_zps33a40295.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/IMAG0048_zps088eb3fc.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/IMAG0048_zps088eb3fc.jpg.html)

"But" from the first part of the post....

Original console put the instruments between headlight and forks...my new console put the instruments higher...now I have a little problem with the cables...I'm going to use the T-cross that goes on instruments, for both sides...this will help me, so the cables don't hit the headlight....to much...If I bend a console a little more, there is not enought space for instrument cups.... ;D

So....again...tortu re newer stops... ;D
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: kevdog3019 on May 08, 2014, 06:43:49 PM
Like music... tension and release. You are in the tension phase. You will be relieved when you sort through this. I going through some of the hardships on my Lario project. It's been one hell of a great ride though. Keep at it you're doing wonderfully. Really looks great!
Kevin
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: double.d on May 08, 2014, 10:33:01 PM
They are sitting up aweful high. What about dropping the headlight down, or making the headlight brackets longer and push the headlight out some.

How do you intend covering the wires to the idiot lights and stopping water and crud from getting in?

Iave made a number of instrument pods over the years and have had to answer all these questions  ;)
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Penderic on May 08, 2014, 10:53:51 PM
You could also get more clearance between the bottom of the guages and the headlight shell by...

Adding a collar ring to each of the gauges to raise the gauges about 1/2 - 1" above the surface of the gauge mount you made.

That extra space may allow you to bent the gauge mount down closer to the headlight shell ... maybe enough.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on May 09, 2014, 03:04:43 AM
What about dropping the headlight down, or making the headlight brackets longer and push the headlight out some.
Now I'm thinking about this...headlight down a little bit and maybe to bend a console a little down.


They are sitting up aweful high.
On pictures maybe...when you look whole bike, it isn't that aweful... ;D
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: double.d on May 09, 2014, 05:44:45 AM
Sorry, awful is probably the wrong choice of word. Your doing a great job and without seeing the whole bike it just looks a bit high without a fairing.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Tobit on May 09, 2014, 06:37:45 AM
It's going to be a beautiful Guzzi when completed.  Are those Delrin carb boots?  I need to replace the rubber boots on my LM IV.  I notice in the recent pics that you still have the original Paioli or Bitubo fork dampers with the cross-over tube.  I'd recommend replacing those with FAC dampers at some point.  That change, along with new Progressive/Wirth springs made a noticeable difference on mine.

 ;-T

Tobit
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on May 09, 2014, 08:31:32 AM
Are those Delrin carb boots?
Hm...I really don't know..I bought it at a fair in Austria a couple of years ago...

Sorry, awful is probably the wrong choice of word.
No problem, I understand what you mean  ;-T
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: kevdog3019 on May 09, 2014, 12:39:33 PM
You are doing superb.  For a reasonable price I got the MG Cycle console and installed recently.  Keep up the nice work!
Kevin

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk91/kevdog3019/Mobile%20Uploads/LarioDash_zpse04adcd9.jpg)

Yes... you may have to mount your headlamp out a wee bit further and that will accomodate the space of your mount.  Does anyone know of a nice way to plug the open hole on the steering head that's now showing on my Lario?
-Kevin
 
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: RinkRat II on May 09, 2014, 12:56:56 PM
Local ACE or TrueValue hardware  has all kinds of hard and soft plugs in assorted sizes. Some times I've just wandered through the isle looking for items just to make something else out of it, thrift stores are good for that too and it usually goes to a good cause.
  Paul
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on May 09, 2014, 01:06:51 PM
I cannot tell from the pictures, but perhaps you can switch your headlight ears from left to right and flip them upside down to drop the headlight a bit?  Just a thought
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Tom on May 10, 2014, 05:15:11 PM
Ace hardwareworks for plugging that  steering neck hole.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on May 13, 2014, 03:22:10 PM
Update....

Console is is bent downward for 1 cm. Now is much better. I'll leave it for now like it is, I lowered the front headlight.

Second update;

The only thing I have left to do is rear light and seat. For the seat I need help from my friend, we will make it, from scratch, but I have to wait for some friend's free time.

Until then, I can make a rear light....base we will be an old CEV holder that I have and one of rear light that I have...To put the light that I have, I had to make an additional bracket that will go on light and then on CEV holder;

It would look something like this:

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/zad01_zps674238b2.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/zad01_zps674238b2.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/zad02_zps889f2ce6.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/zad02_zps889f2ce6.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/zad03_zpscc8c8767.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/zad03_zpscc8c8767.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/zad04_zps97cb6d7a.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/zad04_zps97cb6d7a.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/zad05_zps04a5ebf3.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/zad05_zps04a5ebf3.jpg.html)

For now...this is it...
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: kevdog3019 on May 13, 2014, 06:56:29 PM
Love to see when people find the answers.  I too am going full seat build.  I have a full wood shop so am going flat plywood pan with aluminum flashed bottom for weather resistance.  Closed cell high density foam. Mounting I have to think about.  Probably an aluminum bracket with some studs that fit through from the pan.  I'll watch what you do.  ;)
-Kevin 
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Tom on May 13, 2014, 10:41:23 PM
Good job.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on May 14, 2014, 12:27:44 AM
My only concern now is where to put things on long journeys....I'll have to invent some quick mounting rear bracket or something...

This is my last 10 days trip, a big Europe circle (Slowenia,Austria,Germany,Poland,Czech Republic,Slovakia,Hungary)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/Guzzi%202009/DSC03853.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/Guzzi%202009/DSC03853.jpg.html)

Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Tom on May 14, 2014, 01:13:45 AM
Soft fabric saddle bags would help.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Rob Morton on May 14, 2014, 01:44:46 AM
They would Tom but you have to be careful with upswept cones.
And keeping relatively equal weight in both stops one sagging and ending up singed or worse.

 :)

Rob
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Tom on May 14, 2014, 01:55:06 AM
Of course if you use large bags with no support and heat shields then you'd have that problem.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on May 14, 2014, 04:21:00 AM
Maybe I have a better solution; on longer trip, usually my wife is going with me, she have a Kawasaki, so I will buy her a set of bags, so she can drive things... ;D
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Tom on May 16, 2014, 12:27:38 AM
 ;-T   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: double.d on May 16, 2014, 12:46:07 AM
With regard to the hole in the steering head, i have the same situation and have been pondering fashioning a piece of cork or rubber or something that will fit firmly enough and allow me to remove it, and sticking a time piece to it.

For all the trickery that Motogadget can build into an instrument you would think they could put a clock in there as well  ::)
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: guzzigray on May 16, 2014, 01:00:39 AM
Yes... you may have to mount your headlamp out a wee bit further and that will accomodate the space of your mount.  Does anyone know of a nice way to plug the open hole on the steering head that's now showing on my Lario?
-Kevin
 


http://www.mgcycle.com/product_info.php?products_id=734
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Tom on May 16, 2014, 01:06:47 AM
You can get a plain chrome one for a lot less.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: vij on May 16, 2014, 05:29:56 AM
Can't tell you, it's a friend's bike, not mine. The simplest way is to let the clocks rest by the rim on the board. To lock it down  use cups like yours, held by the hand nuts on the bottom of the clocks.
If you're interested in more info I can send you my friend's email.
(http://img2.tapuz.co.il/communafiles/53303477.jpg)


I like all the little lamps. Where did he get the panel from?

Jocke.............
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on May 16, 2014, 07:36:07 AM
I like all the little lamps. Where did he get the panel from?

Jocke.............

I'd bet that is a custom CNC item.. it would be easy enough to do.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: kevdog3019 on May 16, 2014, 12:24:54 PM

http://www.mgcycle.com/product_info.php?products_id=734

Thanks for this. Perfect!  Why I didn't think to check with the usual suspects... ???
Kevin
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: dan_s on May 16, 2014, 11:30:23 PM
I like all the little lamps. Where did he get the panel from?

Jocke.............

Like Chuck said, it's a custom design, made with CNC.

As for the hole in the steering column, you can stick something fancy like a friction steering damper (anyone has one for sale?) but any plug for a road bicycle bar end will do.
In the photo is my own:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-mwTQA4WE-1k/U3bkdhuMNjI/AAAAAAAAAb8/mYw_GuDqXgI/s640/clocks%2520small.jpg)
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Rob Morton on May 17, 2014, 01:19:52 AM
"I'd bet that is a custom CNC item.. it would be easy enough to do."

Chuck have you reamed out valve guides to provide extra lube and vital cooling to valve stems in the past on your Computer Numerical Control setup?
Do you use a Bosch controller or some other?
And do you use what is referred to as G code programming for the movements.
If memory serves, it is referred to as helical interpolation or spiralling down if you like, although in this case it is not just straight down as valve guides are in place at a specific angles in heads.
Used to program and operate a 6 headed CNC routing wood machine with an air table made by Rye, England.

 :)

Rob
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on May 17, 2014, 12:40:58 PM
Now....on my new dashboard are LED...for alternator impulse (don't know the right word for it...) I need a 1,2 W bulb...so I decide to put somewhere a 1.2W bulb with housing. Didn't like the idea of placing a big and ugly housing on the dashboard so I put it somewhere else...from this bulb the wires will go on to the control LED on the dash. (charge control)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/IMAG0061_zpsf93c1020.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/IMAG0061_zpsf93c1020.jpg.html)

Friend was able today to take time to make me a seat; he used the old seat as a base, sawed it in half and then form a new one, how I like:

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/sic05_zps8bf6ef51.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/sic05_zps8bf6ef51.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/sic04_zps12bd808f.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/sic04_zps12bd808f.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/sic01_zpse01d7c0b.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/sic01_zpse01d7c0b.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/sic03_zps8f1b7cd0.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/sic03_zps8f1b7cd0.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/sic02_zps918e70b6.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/sic02_zps918e70b6.jpg.html)

Later some more pics of seat and base...
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Old Jock on May 17, 2014, 12:50:24 PM
Very nice work!

Here's an alternative clockboard for a LM V1000, a friend's bike.
(http://img2.tapuz.co.il/communafiles/53124260.jpg)

I think your telling fibs that looks like a Sfida to me

John
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: dan_s on May 17, 2014, 01:48:05 PM
I think your telling fibs that looks like a Sfida to me

John

I'm really sorry to read that this is what you think
Like I wrote, it's a friend's V1000 (mk 4) , that has visited Magni's and is not a Sfida.
http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=52719.msg1071516#msg1071516 (http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=52719.msg1071516#msg1071516)

The dash board is a the owner's design and a local make

Recheck before you accuse.

(http://img2.tapuz.co.il/communafiles/52810596.jpg)
(http://img2.tapuz.co.il/communafiles/52954142.jpg)
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on May 17, 2014, 06:31:20 PM
Guys...take it easy....please make a comment about my new seat and my friend who gives his best to please me....Please don't behave like a two ladies on the market buying a cucumber....
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Markcarovilli on May 17, 2014, 07:07:11 PM
Guys...take it easy....please make a comment about my new seat and my friend who gives his best to please me....Please don't behave like a two ladies on the market buying a cucumber....

Now that is funny - still laughing.....

Mark

Oh and the seat is looking great, wish I had such a good friend!
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: dan_s on May 17, 2014, 11:17:41 PM
Guys...take it easy....please make a comment about my new seat and my friend who gives his best to please me....Please don't behave like a two ladies on the market buying a cucumber....
Yours is a magnificent seat.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Old Jock on May 18, 2014, 03:26:01 AM
Dan_S

I apologize, it was meant to be just a bit of fun. I didn't mean to cause any offence.

The reason for saying was, the triple clamp is Magni (It is written there after all), the fork adjusters look identical to the Forcelle Italia, and the dash is also very similar to what Magni made for the Sfida too. Looking at your previous post your quite right & I was wrong its an LM 1000 with what looks like a Sfida front end grafted onto it. Are Sifdas such a pariah here?

I like the warning light cluster its very neat, Motogadget used to make a nice cluster too but I cannot see it on their site now.

The seat is taking shape very nicely indeed.

Better reign in my sense of humor and it looks like I lost the cucumber fight  ;D

John
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on May 18, 2014, 05:39:00 AM
Now that is funny - still laughing.....
do you know what they were arguing about, the two women at the market?
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Markcarovilli on May 18, 2014, 06:07:23 AM
I'll play - what were they arguing about? 

Mark
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on May 18, 2014, 06:09:46 AM
who will buy a longer and thicker one.....and they not need them for a salad ...
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on May 18, 2014, 06:48:28 AM
Rust never sleeps.... :)

Work on the seat:

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/sic06_zpsb223f8aa.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/sic06_zpsb223f8aa.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/sic08_zps6c1b7126.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/sic08_zps6c1b7126.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/sic09_zps1802d53a.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/sic09_zps1802d53a.jpg.html)

I used a zinc spray as a primer:

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/sic10_zps75b3bec4.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/sic10_zps75b3bec4.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/sic11_zpsf09f67b7.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/sic11_zpsf09f67b7.jpg.html)

And how it should look on the bike:

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/sic13_zps016da492.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/sic13_zps016da492.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/sic15_zpsb919743c.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/sic15_zpsb919743c.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/sic16_zpseaa18423.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/sic16_zpseaa18423.jpg.html)

Ready for upholstery.... ;D
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on May 18, 2014, 08:06:01 AM
I likes it.. ;-T
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on May 18, 2014, 08:16:43 AM
"I'd bet that is a custom CNC item.. it would be easy enough to do."

Chuck have you reamed out valve guides to provide extra lube and vital cooling to valve stems in the past on your Computer Numerical Control setup?
Do you use a Bosch controller or some other?
Nope. It's a 'Merican control.. Anilam.. but I have cad/cam now. Long gone are those days filled with calculating arc intersections, etc. I'm a firm believer of letting the machines do the math.. they're better at it. I'll go sit under a tree and drink a lemonade while they work.
And do you use what is referred to as G code programming for the movements.
I used to, back in the day. Like most of my tools, it's an antique.  ::) Bought it new in 86.
If memory serves, it is referred to as helical interpolation or spiralling down if you like, although in this case it is not just straight down as valve guides are in place at a specific angles in heads.
I can do helical interpolation.. thread milling, that sort of thing, but seldom do.
Used to program and operate a 6 headed CNC routing wood machine with an air table made by Rye, England.

 :)

Rob
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Tom on May 18, 2014, 02:16:57 PM
The build still looks good.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Rob Morton on May 19, 2014, 01:11:53 AM
Thanks Chuck.

 :)

Rob
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on June 29, 2014, 12:08:44 PM
Update....after a long break, again a bit of work on bike. Electric installation is complete. Last two days I'm fiddling with a rear light and license plate holder....here's what I did:

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/rep2_zpsf4763112.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/rep2_zpsf4763112.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/rep1_zps78b2f595.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/rep1_zps78b2f595.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/rep3_zpsb7c534cb.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/rep3_zpsb7c534cb.jpg.html)

Next; valve clearance, check engine timing and try to start the bike...
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: LowRyter on June 29, 2014, 04:51:36 PM
wow...  she's pretty
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: kidneb on June 29, 2014, 05:26:47 PM
Next; valve clearance, check engine timing and try to start the bike...

Wow,- those are great moments when starting up a bike that you`ve built up from ground !
If you`ve done it right and remembered all the small details, it will fire up right away when you hit the button !  ;-T
Good luck ! 
Any chance you`ll video it ?
Oh,- do remember to pour some oil in it!  :)
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: NCAmother on June 29, 2014, 05:40:05 PM
Guys...take it easy....please make a comment about my new seat and my friend who gives his best to please me....Please don't behave like a two ladies on the market buying a cucumber....
lol!  Persmission to use that joke please  :BEER:
By the way, great job, can't wait to see more updates on the seat
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on July 30, 2014, 12:28:37 AM
Done....  ;D
A little more playing with settings (I think that I've mess something up with the distributor, think that the bike is in advance, my friend will check this on sunday...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UE5_lvxe2A&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: STANLEYCAT on July 30, 2014, 04:43:42 AM
Great build thread, I have started one here too and have taken some good advice from yours, so thanks very much. It's my first Guzzi build so I need all the help I can get.
Ron
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on September 07, 2014, 01:14:52 PM
After a little more tuning, I'm almost there...still waiting for the seat...maybe next week and then MOT...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaZuHhr8CBE
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Kai on September 07, 2014, 01:48:11 PM
Like your work. Well done, looks great and no battle of material  ;-T

 :bike

Kai
 

 
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: canuck750 on September 07, 2014, 02:16:39 PM
I am very impressed with your workmanship :+1

What a great looking (and sounding) bike, congratulations.

Cheers
Jim
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on September 07, 2014, 03:36:35 PM
Thank you.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on December 08, 2014, 12:14:24 PM
Finally, the seat is done and in my hands....very good work. Worth the wait....Now, just MOT and go go.....

Installation for the weekend...

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/sic-g01_zps4b200bed.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/sic-g01_zps4b200bed.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/sic-g03_zps4b5c19f3.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/sic-g03_zps4b5c19f3.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/sic-g02_zps4b4796ab.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/sic-g02_zps4b4796ab.jpg.html)

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/GUZZI%20obnova/sic-g04_zps77f50217.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/GUZZI%20obnova/sic-g04_zps77f50217.jpg.html)
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: kidneb on December 08, 2014, 02:14:50 PM
Looks a treat !  ;-T
That`s a very nice moped your`e building yourself there !
Looking forward to see it in whole figure !

Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on December 14, 2014, 04:53:55 AM
Job done....next please.... ;D


(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f213/cb750/OSTALO/IMAG0356_zps3077ba99.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/cb750/media/OSTALO/IMAG0356_zps3077ba99.jpg.html)
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: kidneb on December 14, 2014, 05:57:24 AM
Congratulations !

You`ve created a Guzzi with a harmonious style of its own there! 

The tank and seat go very well together, and I like the simple styling of the side-covers, in spite of the right one had to move out a little to allow for the master brake cylinder.

   Nice job,- now you have a unique and sorted runner while you`re planning for the next project!  ;-T :BEER:


 Enjoy it !


 
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: lemans1000 on December 14, 2014, 08:06:45 AM
Thank you.
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: LowRyter on December 14, 2014, 10:47:00 AM
 ;-T



<<<<<<<<<<<<<  Nice color combo   ;D
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on December 14, 2014, 11:20:11 AM
Nice bike..  ;-T
Title: Re: MG Le Mans IV - Reconstruction
Post by: Luxexterior on January 02, 2015, 06:46:32 PM
Beautiful bike. Love the tank/seat. The quality of the work you've done on the bike is obvious even in the pics, nice one! ;-T