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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: bigbikerrick on January 01, 2015, 10:59:27 PM

Title: "Screw Grab" Have you heard of this stuff?
Post by: bigbikerrick on January 01, 2015, 10:59:27 PM
Hi Folks, Happy New Year to all! My cool as all getout, 77 year old , Goldwing riding, next door neighbor brought this stuff to my attention. He said he ordered a tube, stating he has wasted 10 bux on far dummer stuff, in the past. I know nothing about it, but with as much, as us Guzzisti have to mess with old, strip prone fasteners, it may be of some value.I found it interesting. Check it out.

http://www.align-rite.com/screwgrab.html


What is the groups opinion? snake oil, or not..
Rick.
Title: Re: "Screw Grab" Have you heard of this stuff?
Post by: mach1mustang351 on January 01, 2015, 11:43:25 PM
I haven't used this specifically but I have used valve grinding compound in the same fashion when I have stripped allen heads before.  I can see it working.  The clip is good... just about sold me 
Title: Re: "Screw Grab" Have you heard of this stuff?
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on January 01, 2015, 11:50:42 PM
  My brother used to used a product that contained diamond dust but it wasn't a gel, it was a dust.  You dipped the screw driver in it a sort of dusty film was on the bit.  When applied to the screw, it sort of imbedded in both the screw and the bit making it much less likely to slip.
 Because of it's awesome abrasive quality you had to be very careful to not use it where it could contaminate moving parts like valve stems or cylinders, or bearings.  It is probably not a snake oil product but be careful with it.
Title: Re: "Screw Grab" Have you heard of this stuff?
Post by: azccj on January 02, 2015, 12:22:36 AM
Very interesting stuff. Might be nice to have a bottle in the garage, just in case.
Title: Re: "Screw Grab" Have you heard of this stuff?
Post by: bigbikerrick on January 02, 2015, 01:17:56 AM
  My brother used to used a product that contained diamond dust but it wasn't a gel, it was a dust.  You dipped the screw driver in it a sort of dusty film was on the bit.  When applied to the screw, it sort of imbedded in both the screw and the bit making it much less likely to slip.
 Because of it's awesome abrasive quality you had to be very careful to not use it where it could contaminate moving parts like valve stems or cylinders, or bearings.  It is probably not a snake oil product but be careful with it.

Interesting, Jim, It did mention something about diamond shaped particles, or something like that.
Rick
Title: Re: "Screw Grab" Have you heard of this stuff?
Post by: Vasco DG on January 02, 2015, 01:42:18 AM
Grinding paste is the usual 'Friction Enhancer' for Phillips head screws that won't turn.

With Allen heads that are mullah'd the best bet is to get the next oversize Torx bit hammered in will get 'em out. The bolt is sacrificial.

Pete
Title: Re: "Screw Grab" Have you heard of this stuff?
Post by: redrider on January 02, 2015, 05:53:58 AM
If you are working with Japanese "Philips Head", be aware the shape is different. It is actually a JWIS profile and a SAE Philips will cam out and destroy the head. Just like Reed and Prince vs Philips.
Title: Re: "Screw Grab" Have you heard of this stuff?
Post by: StuCorpe on January 02, 2015, 05:58:56 AM
I bought a bottle a couple months ago, only used it once but it worked great that time.
Title: Re: "Screw Grab" Have you heard of this stuff?
Post by: sign216 on January 02, 2015, 06:58:54 AM
I bought a bottle a couple months ago, only used it once but it worked great that time.

Does it work better than grinding paste?  I've already got that.
Title: Re: "Screw Grab" Have you heard of this stuff?
Post by: jas67 on January 02, 2015, 07:02:04 AM
If you are working with Japanese "Philips Head", be aware the shape is different. It is actually a JWIS profile and a SAE Philips will cam out and destroy the head. Just like Reed and Prince vs Philips.

I thought it was just "JIS".   Anyway, for anyone in need of drivers and bits for these, I've gotten them here:
http://www.rjrcooltools.com/vessel.cfm (http://www.rjrcooltools.com/vessel.cfm)

and am very happy with them.
Title: Re: "Screw Grab" Have you heard of this stuff?
Post by: wrbix on January 02, 2015, 07:17:53 AM
Yep, been using it on those recalcitrant Phillipses - works as advertised
Title: Re: "Screw Grab" Have you heard of this stuff?
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on January 02, 2015, 07:21:36 AM
Impact driver.. <shrug>
Title: Re: "Screw Grab" Have you heard of this stuff?
Post by: Yukonica on January 02, 2015, 08:52:03 AM
How could it not be good: the website shows the product is endorsed by aircraft and beer makers.... perfect combination. :bow
Title: Re: "Screw Grab" Have you heard of this stuff?
Post by: Vagrant on January 02, 2015, 09:49:52 AM
I just ordered and they didn't charge freight on 1 tube with pay pal.
Title: Re: "Screw Grab" Have you heard of this stuff?
Post by: ken farr on January 02, 2015, 10:33:14 AM
Of all the oils in the world, Snake Oil is my favorite.

I used to really enjoy going to County,State fairs or trade shows and watch the barkers with the latest greatest snake oil.

Yep, I just bought a tube.

I love snake oil.

kjf
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Post by: Semper-guzzi on January 02, 2015, 12:27:38 PM
We use a similar product st work. EZGrip they call it. Grey Sandy gel that helps grip the panel screws and fasteners of the helicopters we work on. If I can't get EZGrip, I use spit and sand. Works just as well. And it's free.
Title: Re: "Screw Grab" Have you heard of this stuff?
Post by: steamdriven NZ on January 03, 2015, 02:13:04 AM
I have used ScrewGrab at work and it does work. But so does grinding paste and it's a lot cheaper. ScrewGrab seems to be a stickier version.
After 18 months in service in very harsh conditions it is not unknown for aircraft access panel screws to be a 'bit reluctant' even though we often cor-ban or tectyl the threads on installation.
We can often use a fair bit of grinding paste...... Go for the coarser type.
Using a speedbrace with a new tip, all the gunge picked out of the head and grinding paste, speedbrace into the shoulder and lean into it and......often you will have success!

We have all sorts of more advanced disaster recovery tooling to fall back on before resorting to the drill, but sometimes...
Title: Re: "Screw Grab" Have you heard of this stuff?
Post by: 56Pan on January 03, 2015, 07:24:16 AM
Always kept a small can of Clover coarse valve grinding compound and it worked fine.  At the big DHL hangar in Leipzig, the Germans kept tubes of "Schrauben Doktor" (I think that was the name) in the free stock bin for all the mechanics.  That was even better than the valve grinding compound.  And plenty of carbide bits and easy outs behind the parts counter when it didn't work.
Title: Re: "Screw Grab" Have you heard of this stuff?
Post by: rodekyll on January 03, 2015, 01:56:20 PM
Diamonds to remove a screw?  And you call yourself guzzisti.  I'm ashamed.   :-[

The postman delivers the mail with a big rubber band around it.  I save the rubber bands.  When I have a stripped screw I snap one around my screwdriver from end to end and have at it.  The other day I had a stainless Phillips strip out on me and used one.  The darn head broke off the screw with the torque I put on it.