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Title: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on April 07, 2018, 09:58:10 AM
 Sorry , that nonsense at Daytona doesn't count , the real racing starts today in Atlanta (Woodstock)

 Fanschoice , 2:PM Eastern . This is a fun track , they call it a short track , but it races like a fast 1/2 mile . Our FT expert tells me the latest version of the XG is better , and the Yamahas and Kawasakis should be in the hunt . Not sure if the Lloyd Bros Ducati is there , probably not .

 The singles class is red hot at the moment , both Shayna and Cory Texter should be fast , and the Flying Tomato should be a contender .

 Here we go fellas , let's have a great season  :thumb:

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on April 07, 2018, 11:54:48 AM
I'll be watching........... .first I have to go to Magnolia Square and do a diagnosis on Mom's lift chair! Hopefully it will be a successful trip, (I'm taking the duct tape and bailin' wire!)
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on April 07, 2018, 12:49:50 PM
thanks for the head's up.  screwy weather, staying inside,  watch the flat track.   :thumb:
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on April 07, 2018, 01:06:20 PM
looks like flat track is delayed half an hour. 

...but MotoGP quals are on now since they were also delayed half an hour. 
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on April 07, 2018, 01:57:59 PM
whoooa,  crazy qualifiers on motoGP


spoilers:  don't look






Miller does it when everyone was done and not looking.  Zarco and Danny upfront.  Espargo on Aprilia on 2nd row with Marc with Rins' Suzuki.  Rossi 4th row.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Daniel Kalal on April 07, 2018, 02:24:08 PM
#80, broken header; swap it out.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on April 07, 2018, 03:03:19 PM
#80, broken header; swap it out.

 I see you guys have Stevie racing today  :thumb:

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on April 07, 2018, 05:05:45 PM
 The track looks really greasy  :shocked:

  Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on April 07, 2018, 05:24:46 PM
Just tuned in I like the track! Looks sticky. Just in time for the Bultaco's  :boozing:
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on April 07, 2018, 06:28:17 PM

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Cookin' some wangs and waiting out the rain delay. At least we still get to watch racing!
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on April 07, 2018, 06:41:34 PM

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Cookin' some wangs and waiting out the rain delay. At least we still get to watch racing!

 Delayed until tomorrow , no idea why the promoters couldn't speed up the program , it's almost like they don't have radar in Georgia  :shocked:

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on April 07, 2018, 06:49:52 PM
Yep, plans changed. Now it's Tab Benoit and chicken wangs  :boozing:
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on April 07, 2018, 06:53:41 PM
Yep, plans changed. Now it's Tab Benoit and chicken wangs  :boozing:

 What is "Tab Benoit" , a French actor I've never heard of  :huh:

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on April 07, 2018, 08:52:35 PM
What is "Tab Benoit" , a French actor I've never heard of  :huh:

 Dusty

Cajun blues rocker. Look on YouTube ya okie!
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on April 08, 2018, 12:09:06 PM
 Here we go  :thumb:

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on April 08, 2018, 12:20:01 PM
 Damnit , 7 rider crash in the 2nd singles semi , hope everyone is OK .

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on April 08, 2018, 01:25:26 PM
Holy Moly.   MotoGP,  Miller is the only rider that's starting on grid!
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on April 08, 2018, 02:12:26 PM
two satellites on the box and a Suzuki.   Marquez gets three penalties. 

crazy nuts. 


spoiler below






















CRUTCHLOW
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on April 08, 2018, 02:31:42 PM
looks like vance and hines have gotten that Harley upfront.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Rough Edge racing on April 08, 2018, 04:09:53 PM
 I don't have cable or satellite TV, can I watch the races on cable internet?
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on April 08, 2018, 04:14:34 PM
I don't have cable or satellite TV, can I watch the races on cable internet?

 Yep , fanschoice on the web , in fact that is the only place they are broadcast live . You can also catch up on past races early in the season , once NBCSN starts rebroadcasting the races all of the main events disappear , only the heats and semis then .

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Daniel Kalal on April 08, 2018, 09:05:03 PM
Today was a much better day for racing, but it was an even better day for the Indians.  Not so good for the Ducati...  Setting up a MotoGP bike for a racing surface that doesn't give way seems trivially easy by comparison.

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Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Yukonica on April 09, 2018, 12:06:13 AM

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Cookin' some wangs and waiting out the rain delay. At least we still get to watch racing!

What the heck is a wang?
At least I've heard of grits ... but don't really know what that is either.

Wang: colloquialism for certain male anatomy? Reference to baking the gold off some ancient computer motherboards?
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Rough Edge racing on April 09, 2018, 05:19:31 AM
Yep , fanschoice on the web , in fact that is the only place they are broadcast live . You can also catch up on past races early in the season , once NBCSN starts rebroadcasting the races all of the main events disappear , only the heats and semis then .

 Dusty

  Thanks, now I see them.....I'm interested in what makes them go , I searched around but....Do you know of sites giving detailed engine info on the different engines used?
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on April 09, 2018, 07:24:08 AM
  Thanks, now I see them.....I'm interested in what makes them go , I searched around but....Do you know of sites giving detailed engine info on the different engines used?

 Tony , the AFT site has some info . Let me  :coffee: and I'll have some more .

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: timonbik on April 09, 2018, 07:58:31 AM
Was watching the Moto GP.  Any idea when NBC Sports will replay the AFT Atlanta Race? i understand they will be on Saturdays this season.

Cheers, Tim

Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on April 09, 2018, 08:12:55 AM
  Thanks, now I see them.....I'm interested in what makes them go , I searched around but....Do you know of sites giving detailed engine info on the different engines used?

 OK , here goes , and hopefully Danial K will be along to clean up my mistakes .

A. The dominant Indian FTR 750 runs a purpose built 750 CC 4 valve per cylinder OHC engine designed by Swissauto , really not very related to the Polarindian street motors

 B. The HD team runs a hot rod version of the new Street engine . V&H has designed some new cylinder heads and been in charge of developing the production engine into a race motor.

 C. The Kawasaki teams use a hot rod Versys motor , they seem to be losing ground now after decent success for a few years .

 D. The Yamaha teams are running a hot rod FZ 07 twin , watch for those to become very competitive .

 E. The lone Ducati is now running the 821 CC Testastretta engine .

 F. And then we still see the venerable old HD XR 750 show up at certain races and do well . They have so many natural advantages on a slick track they are still a weapon . Simply too fragile and expensive to race an entire season with , turning 10,000 RPM's on mile tracks is tough on an engine designed for 7,500 RPM's .

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: timonbik on April 09, 2018, 08:25:45 AM
Found the answer to my own question.  For those who missed it,   NBC Sports will replay the Atlanta Race on Sat 14th at 5:30 eastern.

Cheers, Tim
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Rough Edge racing on April 09, 2018, 10:37:37 AM
 So all but Indian are using a production based engine?....Hmm I was thinking production based was part of the game...
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on April 09, 2018, 10:40:41 AM
So all but Indian are using a production based engine?....Hmm I was thinking production based was part of the game...

 Well , Indian and the rules committee pulled some shenanigans on that one .

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Rough Edge racing on April 09, 2018, 11:56:28 AM
Well , Indian and the rules committee pulled some shenanigans on that one .

 Dusty

 Oh..Just like Harley pulled with the AMA in the 50's-60's to stay ahead of Triumph.....
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on April 09, 2018, 12:06:10 PM
Oh..Just like Harley pulled with the AMA in the 50's-60's to stay ahead of Triumph.....

 Something like that .

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on April 09, 2018, 12:57:26 PM
So all but Indian are using a production based engine?....Hmm I was thinking production based was part of the game...

I doubt that Vance and Hines machine is a production engine.  Just as the V&H drag prostock "harley" which is a total billet engine.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on April 09, 2018, 01:28:50 PM
I doubt that Vance and Hines machine is a production engine.  Just as the V&H drag prostock "harley" which is a total billet engine.

 Actually it uses mostly stock castings with highly modified cylinder heads . I think the crank and rods are custom pieces , but the XG more closely sticks to the production rule than the FTR , which is a complete clean slate race motor . At least Indian is making the package available now . For that matter , flat track motors going back to the old Class C rules bore little real resemblance to production engines . All of the fast Brit twins were twingled , even the XR ran what amounted to a twingle setup for years until the AMA outlawed twingleing . I peeked inside of a BSA that Jim Rice rode , it was running a billet crank , rods , pistons , and the valves were freaky big . The last Brit twins were making nearly 60 BHP at 7,500 RPM's , Mr Edge can tell you how hard and expensive that must have been . The first iron XR motors only made about 63 HP , which was just enough of an advantage to make the Brits obsolete . It is amazing that the last versions of the XR made 90 BHP reliably , about 95 if you could afford a new crank every other race , and nearly 100 if you could carry a complete spare motor to every race , because they would go boom W/O notice . The XR that we watched Mees win with at OKC in 2016 was a freak , probably 102 BHP at 9,500 RPM's, but he could afford to race a hand grenade .

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: timonbik on April 09, 2018, 01:37:20 PM
XR 750 was about as stock as the Indian FT bikes.  How many XR's did you see on the road or in dealer show rooms.  It was a purpose built racer just like the Indians.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on April 09, 2018, 04:25:27 PM
XR 750 was about as stock as the Indian FT bikes.  How many XR's did you see on the road or in dealer show rooms.  It was a purpose built racer just like the Indians.

I did a test ride on one like this but I get your point.

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Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Rough Edge racing on April 09, 2018, 05:50:16 PM
 but...the XR was originally based on the Sportster engine and although it evolved, it has the same parts in the same places so to speak..
  There's a few guys riding them on the street with total loss electrics and some sort of starter rigged up.....I wanted to buy an XR engine for the same purpose but what I found for the money I had was a pile of worn out parts..
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on April 09, 2018, 06:08:56 PM
but...the XR was originally based on the Sportster engine and although it evolved, it has the same parts in the same places so to speak..
  There's a few guys riding them on the street with total loss electrics and some sort of starter rigged up.....I wanted to buy an XR engine for the same purpose but what I found for the money I had was a pile of worn out parts..

 Well , kinda like the Chevy Nascar engine is based on a 350 production motor . Nothing interchanges twixt a Sportster and XR 750 motor .

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: JJ on April 09, 2018, 06:22:38 PM
I am going to this Flat Track event on May 12th here in Phoenix.  :thumb: :thumb: :1: :1: :cool: :cool:


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Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Daniel Kalal on April 09, 2018, 07:39:08 PM
...hopefully Daniel K will be along to clean up my mistakes...

Looks fine to me.  It's probably best not to get too fixated on just the engine as today everybody makes enough hp to thoroughly smoke the tires.  If that were enough then the factory KTM team (and Suzuki before them) would have run circles around everybody.  Didn't happen.  It is really, really hard to get good things to happen between the tire and the dirt.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: JJ on April 10, 2018, 10:05:27 AM
I did a test ride on one like this but I get your point.

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Another flat-track inspired Harley - the XLX-1000 -  :1: :cool: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

Always thought it would be funky to ride with those huge air-filters sticking out on the side!! :shocked: :shocked:


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Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Rough Edge racing on April 10, 2018, 11:44:40 AM
Looks fine to me.  It's probably best not to get too fixated on just the engine as today everybody makes enough hp to thoroughly smoke the tires.  If that were enough then the factory KTM team (and Suzuki before them) would have run circles around everybody.  Didn't happen.  It is really, really hard to get good things to happen between the tire and the dirt.

  For me it's the engines...
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on April 10, 2018, 11:49:38 AM
  For me it's the engines...

 Kind of Daniel's point , the engine must make the right kind of power , W/O resorting to electronics the way roadracers and even street bikes do now . Getting an engine to work in a dirt track racer is actually more difficult than getting 200HP out of a one liter 4 valve per cylinder engine capable of 17000 RPM's .

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Rough Edge racing on April 10, 2018, 12:34:50 PM
Kind of Daniel's point , the engine must make the right kind of power , W/O resorting to electronics the way roadracers and even street bikes do now . Getting an engine to work in a dirt track racer is actually more difficult than getting 200HP out of a one liter 4 valve per cylinder engine capable of 17000 RPM's .

 Dusty

 Yes...Actually in all forms of motorsports it's about getting the power to the race track..This is how I got my Triumph LSR bike to go faster than other bikes with more power.....
  Back in 1969 Triumph put 70 HP 750 triples on the flat track figuring they would clean up on the mile tracks against the ancient 750 Harley KR side valves with 20 less HP....It didn't happen,The Triumph power deliver was spinning the rear tire and the bikes were heavy...
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on April 10, 2018, 12:51:57 PM
Another flat-track inspired Harley - the XLX-1000 -  :1: :cool: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

Always thought it would be funky to ride with those huge air-filters sticking out on the side!! :shocked: :shocked:


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What I recall about the ride.  The air cleaner did interfere with my leg.  The performance was no more than my Seca 550.  But I think the XR was corked up and could've been kicked up with some jetting and exhaust.  Riding position seemed standard.  I remember the Harley folks seemed shocked that the bike's power didn't blow me away.  I didn't know that it was a special machine, I thought it was a hot rod Sportster and was disappointed that the Cafe Racer was no longer available.

This was back in '84 when Harley was coming out with the Evo and starting over.  I'd never ridden a Harley but thought they rode pretty good.  So this was the first Harley I'd ridden.  Nothing too radical from what I was riding at the time. 
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Rough Edge racing on April 10, 2018, 02:05:53 PM
 Road tests of the bike above when it was new... Liked the excellent handling from the new Sportster frame and effective firm brakes, great on twisty back roads. Keep in mind it's 1983..They didn't like the vibration and the compromised riding position. Lot of torque and a clunky transmission ..They all mentioned the bike needed to be steered slightly right to go in a straight line.. The bikes ran about 12.8  in the 1/4 mile and a top speed of 120...
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: JJ on April 10, 2018, 04:29:14 PM
At the AZ Mile May 12th, I want to see this bad boy... :wink: :thumb: :cool: :1:


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Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Rough Edge racing on April 10, 2018, 06:32:11 PM
 Flat track has a new follower, my wife....I was just quick watching a few short track and then a one mile and she dragged over a chair and got right into the action .... excited wife voice... " OMG, he's gonna pass"......
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on April 10, 2018, 06:37:33 PM
Flat track has a new follower, my wife....I was just quick watching a few short track and then a one mile and she dragged over a chair and got right into the action .... excited wife voice... " OMG, he's gonna pass"......

 Tell her Welcome to the club  :thumb: We are a small but dedicated group of , er , let's say unusual fans of a sport that is quintessentially American . None of that namby pamby European roadracin' for us , we like it dirty  :laugh: Now introduce her to the singles class where a girl is one of the very best racers . She'll be hooked for sure  :thumb:

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: JJ on April 11, 2018, 06:27:28 AM
Tell her Welcome to the club  :thumb: We are a small but dedicated group of , er , let's say unusual fans of a sport that is quintessentially American . None of that namby pamby European roadracin' for us , we like it dirty  :laugh: Now introduce her to the singles class where a girl is one of the very best racers . She'll be hooked for sure  :thumb:

 Dusty

The last flat track races in went to was the San Jose / Sacramento Mile in NORCAL.  Quite exciting to watch ""live" and in person.  Looking forward to May 12th! :thumb: :1: :cool:
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: timonbik on April 11, 2018, 06:40:08 AM
I drag my wife to all kinds of different motor racing but the only ones that she actually looks forward to is flat track racing.  Even though  it is quintessentially American we do have a very active race series up here in Canukistan.  Welland County Motorcycle Club has a race almost every  Saturday night during June and July.   Also a 12 race national series running coast to coast.
Cheers, Tim 
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on April 11, 2018, 06:43:21 AM
 ^^^ Tim , the Canadian champion from a few years back raced several races down here , I always rooted for the guy , he was a fan favorite .

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: timonbik on April 11, 2018, 07:03:30 AM
I think that would have been Don Taylor from Port Colborne, a Welland County member.   He raced down there in several events last year on a very uncompetitive Yamaha.  Haven't heard what his plans are this year.

Tim
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Pisano on April 11, 2018, 07:13:42 AM
Speaking of Canadian Flat trackers;  anyone planning on going to the Belleville, On. race June 20th?


Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: timonbik on April 11, 2018, 07:22:40 AM
Schedule says June 30th with July 1 as rain date.  I might if I can come up with a place to hang my hat.  Long weekend, accommodation can be expensive and hard to come by in that area.

Tim
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on April 11, 2018, 07:35:06 AM
I think that would have been Don Taylor from Port Colborne, a Welland County member.   He raced down there in several events last year on a very uncompetitive Yamaha.  Haven't heard what his plans are this year.

Tim

 Yep , he is well respected down here , despite his race bikes not being all that great . The announcers on fanschoice never failed to give him some recognition when he was near the front in any heat race . Maybe he can find a competitive mount and make a few races in the AFT series .

 There is a young Brit running the singles series who seems to be getting better with some seat time , and the Spanish FT champ raced at Atlanta in the singles class , doing fairly well .

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: timonbik on April 11, 2018, 07:42:43 AM
We have a local young lad, Hunter Bauer from Chippewa who is a force to be reckoned with.  Wins almost every race.  Fearless!!!!
Fully expect him to follow in Donny's shoes. 

Cheers, Tim
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Rough Edge racing on April 11, 2018, 07:47:53 AM
 Closest AFT from us is 40 miles away at the 1/3 mile Weedsport track
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on April 11, 2018, 08:00:51 AM
We have a local young lad, Hunter Bauer from Chippewa who is a force to be reckoned with.  Wins almost every race.  Fearless!!!!
Fully expect him to follow in Donny's shoes. 

Cheers, Tim

 Let him know we are pulling for him  :thumb:

 
Closest AFT from us is 40 miles away at the 1/3 mile Weedsport track

 Aug 7 , that is a neat little track .

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: guzzisteve on April 13, 2018, 08:17:53 AM
If you missed Atl Shortrack like me the reruns are up on Fanschoice.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Darren Williams on April 24, 2018, 06:36:52 PM
Watch out Indian and Harley! KTM's a comin' in 2019!
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on April 27, 2018, 04:59:23 PM
 UH OH  :laugh: Jared Mees just lost his win and all of his points from Atlanta for using a chemical on his rear tire that AFT doesn't allow . The podium is now Coolbeth , Carver , and Vanderkoi . This could get interesting  :popcorn:

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: guzzisteve on April 28, 2018, 05:44:16 PM
It's time Dusty, leave that rim alone.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on April 28, 2018, 05:50:59 PM
It's time Dusty, leave that rim alone.

 It is clean as the inside of an operating room now , so yeah . Thanks Steve .

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on April 28, 2018, 08:43:37 PM
 Oh man , that looked bad , but all of the guys got up  :thumb:

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on April 28, 2018, 09:40:04 PM
 Great singles main , and Shayna beat Cory  :laugh:

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: guzzisteve on April 28, 2018, 10:45:17 PM
Good racing, bad crashes and a pretty fast Husky.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: JJ on April 30, 2018, 08:40:59 AM
I'll be at The Arizona Mile @ Turf Paradise in Phoenix on Saturday May 12th.  Should be exciting! :1: :thumb: :cool:
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Ratso88 on May 01, 2018, 02:27:03 AM
Yep, Arizona Mile.

I'll be headed that way myself. Taking the Griso on a little road trip.
I've been out there the last couple years. First time for riding out. Should be interesting.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: JJ on May 03, 2018, 10:39:42 AM
Yep, Arizona Mile.

I'll be headed that way myself. Taking the Griso on a little road trip.
I've been out there the last couple years. First time for riding out. Should be interesting.

YES!!!  :thumb: :cool: :1:  Should be exciting and FUN!


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Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: guzzisteve on May 12, 2018, 08:50:36 AM
We'll see who has the fastest Indian today!!
Title: The Arizona Mile today! It's Harley vs Indian once again!!
Post by: JJ on May 12, 2018, 10:23:35 AM
Headin' south right now!! :thumb: :cool: :1:



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Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on May 12, 2018, 12:14:11 PM
 First mile of the season , today we find out who is who and what is what . Hoping the Kawasakis have something , they are normally good on fast tracks , although losing Howerton and Smith hurt . Maybe Bill Werner has something for the Indians .

 Now we get to see how fast Shayna's Husky really is , she is bad on mile tracks  :bow:

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: guzzisteve on May 12, 2018, 03:29:04 PM
Looks like a dust bowl. Celeb racing on mini bikes. Maybe they'll show a camera on JJ.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on May 12, 2018, 04:56:59 PM
 Doug Lawrence riding the Ducati  :thumb:

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on May 12, 2018, 05:38:56 PM
it looks like Vance and Hines have almost caught the Indian.   :popcorn:
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: guzzisteve on May 12, 2018, 05:54:01 PM
Really, Sammy passed Mees.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: twowings on May 12, 2018, 06:29:03 PM
Is there any more or is it just 'Track Prep' for the rest of the night??
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: delrod on May 12, 2018, 07:30:29 PM
I'd sure like to watch a race
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: twowings on May 12, 2018, 07:52:53 PM
Mercy! Water the damn track...it's like the Baja 1000 out there!
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on May 12, 2018, 08:26:10 PM
Mercy! Water the damn track...it's like the Baja 1000 out there!

 They did water the track , just a bit too much in fact  :rolleyes:

 Miss Texter's Husky is not very fast today .

  Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: MotoChuck250 on May 12, 2018, 08:32:44 PM
How far from the back can Tristan Avery come in the remaining few laps????

Avery from the back up to 11th.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on May 12, 2018, 08:38:47 PM
Wow that singles race was killer!
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: guzzisteve on May 12, 2018, 09:03:38 PM
Now they can't see. Any more excuses?
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on May 12, 2018, 09:06:14 PM
helluva a singles race   :thumb:
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: MotoChuck250 on May 12, 2018, 09:31:02 PM
Twins race wasn't as good as the singles.  Nobody had anything for Mees.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on May 12, 2018, 09:31:48 PM
Do you think Mees even used any tear offs ?..... :laugh:
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: MotoChuck250 on May 12, 2018, 09:34:06 PM
Do you think Mees even used any tear offs ?..... :laugh:

Catching lappers is the only time he was running with anyone after the first lap!

Track prep is EVERYTHING on a mile and this wasn't welll prepped.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on May 12, 2018, 09:38:52 PM
Those Native American motorbikes, I tell ya what :bike-037:
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on May 12, 2018, 10:04:41 PM
 The singles class has been better since the beginning of last year . With Smith out , and the other bikes still not there on power , Mees has no real competition .

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: guzzisteve on May 12, 2018, 10:59:41 PM
Seems like the H-D runs fast for 1 race then slows up.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: JJ on May 13, 2018, 08:42:44 AM
Seems like the H-D runs fast for 1 race then slows up.

Indian continues to dominate... :thumb: :1: :cool:


(https://thumb.ibb.co/mqsw3y/Screen_Shot_2018_05_13_at_6_41_30_AM.png) (https://ibb.co/mqsw3y)
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: JJ on May 13, 2018, 08:44:53 AM
Highlight of the day...for me anyway...was 78-year old Buddy Stubbs doing a few laps on his vintage Harley-Davidson XR-750!!  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :cool: :1:


(https://thumb.ibb.co/mGehbJ/DSC_0009.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mGehbJ)

(https://thumb.ibb.co/iuFNbJ/DSC_0010.jpg) (https://ibb.co/iuFNbJ)

(https://thumb.ibb.co/hu4FwJ/DSC_0011.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hu4FwJ)
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on May 13, 2018, 09:31:17 AM
not much of a race for the feature event.

Forget what I said about Vance and  Hines having anything for the Indians.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on May 18, 2018, 12:58:30 PM
 Short track at the Lodi Cycle Bowl on fanschoice tonight starting at 9 PM Eastern . Several of the big names will be competing . Tomorrow is the Sacramento Mile , one of the two best mile races in flat track .

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on May 18, 2018, 09:16:55 PM
Iíll be there, (on fans choice that is)
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on May 18, 2018, 09:57:35 PM
 Really wish the tracks they raced the nationals on were as well prepped as Lodi . What a great track :thumb:

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Clydeman on May 18, 2018, 10:26:32 PM
I was thinking of hitting Springfield this year but from what I've seen so far on NBCSN I'm not sure it's worth the drive. Not a lot of competition. I guess the type of finishes from years past (Chris Carr winning by inches over three other guys) are indeed a thing of the past. Great to see so many brands out there but so far no one has anything for the Indians. Having said that, I'm not giving up. Been following AFT since the glory days of Romero, Aldana, Mann and many others. I have hope that it becomes more competitive again.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on May 18, 2018, 11:45:09 PM
 Great racing in every class tonight , the open main was close .

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on May 19, 2018, 07:08:21 PM
Here's a link if anyone is looking for a real downer  :wink:
https://www.fanschoice.tv/watch-live/american-flat-track
Last years race is showing now  :thumb:
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on May 19, 2018, 08:28:27 PM
 Bryan Smith is back , the XG 's are getting faster every race , and the Duc , well ...

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on May 19, 2018, 09:45:51 PM
At least I got to see the Dallas 1/2 mile.  :laugh: ok letís see some live action👍
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on May 19, 2018, 10:01:15 PM
At least I got to see the Dallas 1/2 mile.  :laugh: ok let�s see some live action👍

 We're rockin' now , sure is good to watch a race on a properly prepped track .

 Now if Shayna could just get a decent start , and the Duc can do something .

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on May 19, 2018, 11:03:16 PM
 Great singles main , WOW !

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: guzzisteve on May 26, 2018, 04:14:05 PM
Springfield TT coming up, they were running district classes a bit.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: guzzisteve on May 27, 2018, 11:28:14 AM
The Flyin Tomato picks up a twin to ride in the mile. Another rider on a RS750 Honda. Carver on his 2nd new Indian.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on May 27, 2018, 02:29:18 PM
 57 year old Ronnie Jones looking racy again , and the Ducati is showing some speed with Doug Lawrence up .

 Everyone wave to Daniel Kalal and Guzzistajohn  :thumb:

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: guzzisteve on May 27, 2018, 04:15:59 PM
Rain Delay till noon on Monday. Riders wiping out
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: delrod on May 28, 2018, 12:59:20 PM
Getting ready to race
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on May 28, 2018, 01:03:56 PM
Hey, my guy Ronnie Jones is runnin' and Indian. 

Ronnie is part of the  Class of '79 with Parker and Rainey.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: guzzisteve on May 28, 2018, 01:26:40 PM
Maybe they shouldn't have watered the track. Slick delay

The old guy award, amazing athletes.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on May 28, 2018, 01:40:29 PM
Ronnie qualifies.  5th in the Semi.    :thumb:

not bad for a 57 year old retired racer....maybe he never did retire?
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on May 28, 2018, 01:41:13 PM
 RJ makes the main  :thumb: Carver looking strong .

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on May 28, 2018, 01:49:24 PM
 The Duc makes the main  :thumb: Coolbeth and Carver are gonna give the Indian factory guys some trouble .

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on May 28, 2018, 02:41:06 PM
 How about that , congratulations Jeffrey Carver  :bow:

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: guzzisteve on May 28, 2018, 02:55:35 PM
Carver jumped & never let off, kinda like Mees does to get out there.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: timonbik on May 28, 2018, 03:12:17 PM
Missed it, as I had to watch the local Canadian boys stir up some dust on our local 1/4 mile at Welland County.  Was the first night of racing and the weather cooperated perfectly.  Next week we host the second round of the Canadian Nationals.  Anyone local should make a point of attending and seeing some great racing.  Will have to catch the Springfield Race on the NBC replay next weekend.

Cheers, Tim
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: guzzimatic on May 28, 2018, 08:34:36 PM
I rode the LeMans III to the delayed Springfield Mile. It was a hot day but grandstand shade made it OK ! Good to see Carver get a mile win! As I was leaving,a couple of guys complimented my bike, I was ready to get some air moving so said my goodbyes,but a mention of not seeing one everyday by me brought a reply of not necessarily...I didn't realize till I was on the road home it might have been you WildGuzzi flattrack guys! Cheers!
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on May 29, 2018, 05:50:57 AM
What a weekend! Got home about 10:00 last night. Got to meet Dave Despain and Brandon Robinson at the hotel. Carvers bike was running sooooo nice. Got in 700 LeMans III miles.
(https://thumb.ibb.co/guk2Sd/image.jpg) (https://ibb.co/guk2Sd)

It was a little buggy last night!
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on May 29, 2018, 09:49:09 AM
looks like Dave has gone full on hippy.

Retirement is great.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on May 29, 2018, 06:23:11 PM
Saw some sights in Springtown  :thumb:


(https://thumb.ibb.co/n5cAFy/17_races_013.jpg) (https://ibb.co/n5cAFy)

Shayna T.

(https://thumb.ibb.co/cwu1Nd/17_races_012.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cwu1Nd)

Kenny Coolbeth

(https://thumb.ibb.co/fkGWNd/17_races_003.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fkGWNd)

Abe's tomb

(https://thumb.ibb.co/d02AFy/17_races_005.jpg) (https://ibb.co/d02AFy)


(https://thumb.ibb.co/f9pU8J/17_races_006.jpg) (https://ibb.co/f9pU8J)


(https://thumb.ibb.co/kBby2d/17_races_009.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kBby2d)


(https://thumb.ibb.co/hDNhTJ/17_races_001.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hDNhTJ)


(https://thumb.ibb.co/cGK48J/track1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cGK48J)


(https://thumb.ibb.co/mUJE8J/carver.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mUJE8J)

The Winner Jeff Carver

Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on May 29, 2018, 07:00:36 PM
Carver smoked 'em.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: twowings on May 29, 2018, 07:29:27 PM
No selfies with Dave D.???
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on May 30, 2018, 06:02:41 AM
No selfies with Dave D.???
[/

Never crossed my mind
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on May 30, 2018, 10:49:47 PM
Just thought Iíd share this, canít take credit for the shot but those Indians are bad ass!

(https://thumb.ibb.co/nHP83J/76_F149_B5_6_EF0_4_DBF_B92_D_27_EA3840_BC93.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nHP83J)
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on June 02, 2018, 07:14:56 AM
Hey Mr Whoopee, when do the races start? Lima Ohio this weekend right?????
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on June 02, 2018, 08:52:55 AM
Hey Mr Whoopee, when do the races start? Lima Ohio this weekend right?????

 The Red Mile , 3:30 Eastern . I love this stretch of miles . except for that horrible track in AZ .

 Go Shayna , come on Briar  :thumb:

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: guzzisteve on June 02, 2018, 09:04:18 AM
I was going to post but I'm not Mr Woopee. Ha Ha
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on June 02, 2018, 09:06:41 AM
I was going to post but I'm not Mr Woopee. Ha Ha

 That's John's cat's name , the neighbors all point and laugh when he starts calling "Mr Whoopee, Mr Whoopee"  :laugh:

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on June 02, 2018, 09:17:09 AM

(https://thumb.ibb.co/ffMRTJ/Mr_whopee.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ffMRTJ)

Dusty and his 3DBB  :wink:
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: guzzisteve on June 02, 2018, 03:11:06 PM
The track looks deep.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on June 02, 2018, 05:01:08 PM
The singles will put on a good show tonight!
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on June 02, 2018, 05:11:33 PM
The singles will put on a good show tonight!

 52 is looking fast .

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on June 02, 2018, 05:25:09 PM
She'll do better than 3rd later
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: guzzisteve on June 02, 2018, 05:30:00 PM
All I get is singles video, but announcer is live.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on June 02, 2018, 05:56:07 PM
All I get is singles video, but announcer is live.

 I'm not getting anything but a blank screen and the qualifying times . Dang .

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on June 02, 2018, 06:58:48 PM
Good hookup here. It's not fanschoice :laugh:
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: guzzisteve on June 02, 2018, 07:04:00 PM
Seemed like the right  hand didn't know what left hand did. Same races played over, seems fine now.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on June 02, 2018, 07:54:52 PM
That last old fashion made my screen blurry  :boozing:
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on June 02, 2018, 08:08:17 PM
That last old fashion made my screen blurry  :boozing:

 Apparently it is making your comments here a bit blurry also .  :boozing:HIC :boozing:

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: twowings on June 02, 2018, 08:28:17 PM
Sure looked like Shayna at the end... :shocked:
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on June 02, 2018, 08:36:31 PM
Sure looked like Shayna at the end... :shocked:


 Thought so also , but the start finish line is hard to see . She is fast on a mile .

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on June 02, 2018, 09:10:22 PM
 Great singles main , WOW !

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on June 16, 2018, 04:22:13 PM
 OKC Mile this evening . Fanschoice says 6PM Eastern .

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on June 16, 2018, 06:35:10 PM
Great heats.  Tap the guy on the shoulder and pass bim.

Draft passes in 3rd heat.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on June 16, 2018, 09:27:52 PM
Great racing and coverage tonight. Fans choice is doing a nice job!
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on June 16, 2018, 09:39:33 PM
Great racing and coverage tonight. Fans choice is doing a nice job!

 The track is in better shape than the last two years also .

 Here we go with the singles main , this will be good  :thumb:

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on June 16, 2018, 09:58:21 PM
 Best race of the season so far , the singles class is where it's at . Dirt flying , bikes sideways , lots of passing , Shayna can hang with the boys  :bow:

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on June 16, 2018, 10:39:14 PM
Yes sir-ree Bob, those singles pit on a show! Shanaís Husky can get with the program!
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on June 16, 2018, 10:58:32 PM
 I'm gonna stop watching the twins , like watching Groundhog Day .

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: guzzisteve on June 16, 2018, 11:02:43 PM
Pretty good racing.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on June 17, 2018, 12:41:20 AM
Got back from the race about an hour ago.  I was in the racing level at a table, all glassed in.  Strange way to see a race.  But got great drink service,  Johnny Walker and Dos X.

The best part was seeing riding buddies from different groups of folks that I know.  They were all seated around me.  Lots of nice visits and meeting friend of friends. Almost like I planned but just got some last minutes tickets.

The racing was really great except for the feature.  I will say I enjoyed Shayna giving it a run and she is by far the most popular given the cheers.  Mees was on another level, a riding display. 

 
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: guzzisteve on June 20, 2018, 09:35:04 AM
Hey, ReRuns are up on FC for Okie mile. I had fallen asleep for some of it.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on June 20, 2018, 09:03:37 PM
Hey, ReRuns are up on FC for Okie mile. I had fallen asleep for some of it.

I like to have a video of Shayna's double draft pass and play it over and over......in my beanbag chair........with a fresh bag of Cheetos  :wink:

Wish Lima was this weekend!
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: guzzisteve on June 30, 2018, 11:22:41 AM
Are You Ready, it's Lima, OH
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on June 30, 2018, 11:39:16 AM
 One of my favorite half miles , nothing like a pea gravel surface . Maybe we will see something besides an Indian win tonight , Briar Bauman put-it-on-'em last year .

 Oh , and GOOOOOO Shayna .

 Dusty

 PS , spare a thought for Parker Norris .
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: guzzisteve on June 30, 2018, 02:36:34 PM
Shana just clocked fastest singles. Now 4th after all qualifying.

1st heat she cut off Wells to get 1st.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on June 30, 2018, 05:38:36 PM
 OK , it's only a heat race , but Shayna just put a move on Ryan Wells that was amazing  :bow:

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on June 30, 2018, 07:18:33 PM
Gnarley roost in that pea gravel  :bike-037:
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: guzzisteve on June 30, 2018, 07:29:08 PM
Gnarley roost in that pea gravel  :bike-037:
Better have a double stack of tear-offs, Briar backed way off after getting in Mees's rooster.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on June 30, 2018, 07:40:30 PM
Better have a double stack of tear-offs, Briar backed way off after getting in Mees's rooster.

Like he hit reverse  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on June 30, 2018, 07:52:28 PM
 The lead bike is always nice and clean , from there back they resemble of of the Turnip's bikes after a few years  :laugh:

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on June 30, 2018, 08:10:05 PM
Nice work carver :thumb:
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on June 30, 2018, 08:35:45 PM
Bravo for Shayna and Husky, what a race!
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on June 30, 2018, 08:36:09 PM
 Shayna !

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: twowings on June 30, 2018, 08:40:03 PM
"Ginger did everything Fred did, except backwards AND in high heels!"

Go, girl!!!  :bow:
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on June 30, 2018, 08:45:38 PM
 The move around the outside in turn two was a classic flat track move . #52 is a 100% real dirt track racer .

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on June 30, 2018, 09:13:16 PM
Mees and the Indian reign superior. The half mile is a treat!
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Daniel Kalal on June 30, 2018, 10:40:05 PM
A great deal of credit is due Jared Mees for the condition of the track; it's the best I think I've ever seen at Lima.  The prep crew was out there after every race.  Every one of them.  They put down water, raked the dirt from the outside lines down to the inside line and then followed that with more water and a final sweep.  The same routine every time the equipment was exactly suited to what they needed--and all the pickup truck drivers who were pulling the equipment knew what was expected.  It was a professional a job as I've seen.  And, all the extra time paid off with a track for the final race that was in very good shape.

I hope other tracks pick up on how it was done at Lima.  Don't ever let the track get ahead of you; once that happens, you cannot recover and it will all go downhill.

The winner was mostly expected, but there were a number of battles all the way back that were worth watching.  Those racers are brave.  A few ran out of tear-offs, and when that happened, their race was mostly over.

Watching from outside turn one, you learn to put your head down when Baker comes by.  Even so, I ended up with a fair amount of gravel down my shirt.

No Ducati at Lima, but expect a healthy Stevie Bonsey to be at Springfield.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on June 30, 2018, 10:46:07 PM
 Daniel , maybe we need more active racers as promoters . The track did look well groomed , there isn't much way to control the dust on a pea gravel track W/O drowning it in water . Waiting on photos.

 Dusty
Title: NY Flat Track
Post by: LowRyter on July 07, 2018, 06:16:32 PM
Forgot about it until now.  anyone watching?
Title: Re: NY Flat Track
Post by: oldbike54 on July 07, 2018, 06:52:14 PM
Forgot about it until now.  anyone watching?

 Guzzisteve and me , probably Doug and John also .

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: guzzisteve on July 07, 2018, 06:59:08 PM
Carver is looking good. Looks like a decent track too. 
Title: Re: NY Flat Track
Post by: Daniel Kalal on July 07, 2018, 07:04:45 PM
anyone watching?

the LBM Ducati is being shipped to West Sussex to participate in the Goodwood Festival of Speed.  The Indian team will be there, too (and, some others).  Unfortunately, there won't be any flat track racing (not even a demonstration), but the boys (and Shayna) will at least be able to charge up the hill-climb road and make lots of noise.  The real point is to wave the flag of flat track for the rather upscale crowd that is always at Goodwood.  AFT is doing a good job pushing the series out from its existing fanbase (of old guys).
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on July 07, 2018, 07:11:08 PM
 anyone watching?

Think I'm not???? :thumb: :grin:

Anyone need a shortcut?
https://www.fanschoice.tv/watch-live/american-flat-track
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on July 07, 2018, 08:54:06 PM
Someone needs to get Mees on the pavement.  I think he's probably the best motorcycle racer in the USA. 

At least he's earned the right to find out.   :thumb:
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on July 07, 2018, 09:03:25 PM
 What American pavement series wouldn't be a demotion ?

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Daniel Kalal on July 07, 2018, 09:07:42 PM
What American pavement series wouldn't be a demotion?

None.  Sadly, the current superbike series probably is at just about the same talent-level as the WERA series from twenty years back.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: twowings on July 07, 2018, 09:09:58 PM
I missed the Singles Main... :sad: Shayna do ok?
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on July 07, 2018, 09:10:19 PM
What American pavement series wouldn't be a demotion ?

 Dusty

I'm thinking of a step up.  You gotta start somewhere to get on the world level.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on July 07, 2018, 09:11:38 PM
None.  Sadly, the current superbike series probably is at just about the same talent-level as the WERA series from twenty years back.

(https://i.imgur.com/sIU2ztzg.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on July 07, 2018, 09:17:56 PM
I missed the Singles Main... :sad: Shayna do ok?

 No , she finished 14th .

 
I'm thinking of a step up.  You gotta start somewhere to get on the world level.

 Mees is 32 , has a factory ride , where exactly do you suggest he go ?  :laugh: Something tells me he won't fit on a Moto3 bike  :shocked:

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on July 08, 2018, 08:52:11 AM
racing on pavement a step up??? I don't think so.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on July 08, 2018, 09:03:14 AM
$ <  $$$
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on July 08, 2018, 09:13:03 AM
Ooooo the money 💰 part. I thought you were referring to the excitement and spectator enjoyment part.

Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on July 08, 2018, 09:15:55 AM
$ <  $$$

 No team in American roadracing can match the salary Polaris pays Mees . Once again , he is 32 years old , so he goes to some American team and pavement races for less money than he makes now , and probably doesn't win anything , stays for say 2 years , then is 34 , who signs a 34 year old racer to a big contract ? He is a very good dirt tracker , that does NOT mean success on pavement , remember the French MX champion who tried that ?

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: twowings on July 08, 2018, 10:22:51 AM
If they think you're good enough, they will come looking for you...can't say if Mr. Mees has ever been offered a roadracing ride, but maybe he's perfectly content where he is?
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on July 08, 2018, 10:29:04 AM
guys, you might put a wet towel on your heads and putout the flames.   :violent1:

I was thinking, speculating, wondering aloud, that Mees might be the best American racer and it would be cool to see him have a chance on pavement for a bigtime opportunity. 

But I should've known that any pontification here regarding motorcycle racing might cause folks to grab the xanax to get over a severe case of the vapors.

I do declare dawlin'......    :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Darren Williams on July 08, 2018, 11:01:01 AM
Brings to mind our local guy, Danny Eslick. He'll race anything on two wheels, at a very competitive level. But it's very hard to go to different types of racing and immediately excel. It takes an enormous amount of time and hard work to dial in a top level program.

Had Mees focused on road racing early, no telling how high he could have gone, because he obviously has a special gift for the flat track racing he has focused on.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: twowings on July 08, 2018, 11:36:31 AM
guys, you might put a wet towel on your heads and putout the flames.   :violent1:

I was thinking, speculating, wondering aloud, that Mees might be the best American racer and it would be cool to see him have a chance on pavement for a bigtime opportunity. 

But I should've known that any pontification here regarding motorcycle racing might cause folks to grab the xanax to get over a severe case of the vapors.

I do declare dawlin'......    :lipsrsealed:

Perhaps you are projecting 'vapors' and 'flames' over what is just quiet disappointment at some muddy footprints tracked over what was a nice, clean FLAT TRACK thread, hmm? 
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oldbike54 on July 08, 2018, 11:46:58 AM
 Heck , I might be offered the lead in the next Cohen Brothers movie also .

 Dusty
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on July 08, 2018, 12:33:49 PM
Or get some tickets to a Beatles concert  :grin:
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on July 08, 2018, 12:58:28 PM
Heck , I might be offered the lead in the next Cohen Brothers movie also .

 Dusty

I think you should.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on July 08, 2018, 12:59:58 PM
Perhaps you are projecting 'vapors' and 'flames' over what is just quiet disappointment at some muddy footprints tracked over what was a nice, clean FLAT TRACK thread, hmm?

you might be right.  Mees probably not that good.   
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: twowings on July 08, 2018, 02:37:55 PM
Remember the Great Michael Jordan Baseball Experiment? Some skills may not transfer...YMMV
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: guzzisteve on August 11, 2018, 04:23:42 PM
Everyone gone to a rally, no one mentioned the Stugis TT and 1/2 mile. Re-runs are up for TT.

I know a few from IL that are going to Peoria.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on August 11, 2018, 04:48:22 PM
Buffalo Chip TT on tonight on NBC Sports channel.  Moto America now on Bein.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on August 11, 2018, 07:55:53 PM
Buffalo Chip TT on tonight on NBC Sports channel.  Moto America now on Bein.
:thumb:
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on August 12, 2018, 08:43:36 AM
:thumb:

Wow.   I'd love to see Mees have a shot on pavement.   :evil:
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: guzzisteve on August 12, 2018, 09:03:54 AM
Well, I turned it on last night and my wife say's "NO bikes on her TV". Got to get along.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: MiLD GRiSO on August 12, 2018, 09:44:46 AM
The TT race was entertaining I guess but I kept thinking a big twin would be too hard to ride on that track and why is that called flat track?
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on August 12, 2018, 09:54:51 AM
The TT race was entertaining I guess but I kept thinking a big twin would be too hard to ride on that track and why is that called flat track?
TT tracks are part if the AFT series.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on August 12, 2018, 10:46:01 AM
The TT race was entertaining I guess but I kept thinking a big twin would be too hard to ride on that track and why is that called flat track?

that's why it ain't easy.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on August 12, 2018, 12:07:57 PM
that's why it ain't easy.

All about the points
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: MiLD GRiSO on August 12, 2018, 01:35:54 PM
Good answers and if other fans like and  it raises revenue for the teams and track owners to be able to continue running the events I like then that's great.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on August 12, 2018, 02:24:43 PM
Starting to get pumped about the ride to Sagamon County, Ill.
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Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on August 12, 2018, 05:01:17 PM
Starting to get pumped about the ride to Sagamon County, Ill.
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I wonder if I can get Fans Choice in Amsterdam? 
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on August 12, 2018, 05:36:43 PM
I wonder if I can get Fans Choice in Amsterdam?

I'd say so....if you can get that interneck thing.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Daniel Kalal on August 12, 2018, 05:54:31 PM
Starting to get pumped about the ride to Sagamon County, Ill.

Stevie Bonsey has had really bad luck this season, but he should be healthy for Springfield on the Ducati 821.  Just on principle, I'd hate to see 1 - 18 all riding Indian.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Ratso88 on August 12, 2018, 06:16:19 PM
Less than a week until the Peoria TT.  :thumb: 18 August

We get to see if Henry Wiles can keep the streak going.

Personally I'm not a fan of the "new improved" jump. I suppose they had to come up with something for the twins as they are not allowed to run singles in the top class there anymore. Who, in their right mind, wants to launch 130 feet on one of those anyway? Then keep doing it 24 more times.

And, Guzzistajohn, nice picture of Nicky Hayden on the XR. One of my favorites.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Daniel Kalal on August 12, 2018, 06:28:39 PM
Personally I'm not a fan of the "new improved" jump.

The new jump is more like the original old jump; it's been changed several times over the years.  The idea is to keep today's twins (with 50% more power than the last time the twins ran this track) from jumping right into the creek.  If that were to happen, that would be the end of the Peoria TT on the national circuit.

I wish there were a way to make the track twice as wide as it is.  But, the bowl that it sits in pretty much limits what can be done, without a great deal of effort that would ruin the attraction of the place to many people who love it. 

So, it remains what it is: nice people, great organization, great food, great heritage, horrible track.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on August 12, 2018, 07:34:40 PM
Stevie Bonsey has had really bad luck this season, but he should be healthy for Springfield on the Ducati 821.  Just on principle, I'd hate to see 1 - 18 all riding Indian.

I'd love to see the Duc run with those Indians. Or anything else as far as that goes.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on August 12, 2018, 08:04:34 PM
I'd love to see the Duc run with those Indians. Or anything else as far as that goes.

maybe we'll see an Aprilia Dorsoduro next year?   :evil:

I'm told it's possible.  Don't know if it's likely.  I wouldn't put any money on it.  But it's been discussed.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Daniel Kalal on August 12, 2018, 08:19:09 PM
maybe we'll see an Aprilia Dorsoduro next year?


It's not listed in the 2018 rulebook as approved, but who knows?  These things have been shown to be flexible.  The expectation is that any changes in the rules for 2019 will be towards a 750cc limit and I don't know that Aprilia makes a 750 version of the Dorsoduro these days, do they?
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on August 12, 2018, 08:55:22 PM

It's not listed in the 2018 rulebook as approved, but who knows?  These things have been shown to be flexible.  The expectation is that any changes in the rules for 2019 will be towards a 750cc limit and I don't know that Aprilia makes a 750 version of the Dorsoduro these days, do they?

Nope, it's a 900.  Like I said, I wouldn't put money on it.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: guzzisteve on August 18, 2018, 04:39:52 PM
Thunder in the hollow is going on!!
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: guzzisteve on September 01, 2018, 04:01:18 PM
Hey, any of you guys at Springfield go to the singles short track?
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: delrod on September 01, 2018, 05:12:57 PM
Can't see it from the pub downtown
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: MiLD GRiSO on September 01, 2018, 05:50:12 PM
I got tickets for Minnesota Mile at the end of the month. I don't know if that will be a big deal but if the race is not the greatest we could maybe find something else fun around Shakopee.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: guzzisteve on September 01, 2018, 08:14:02 PM

Helava race, Mees, Carver, Smith, Bauman dicing it up the whole race, Smith dives out for a blast to win.

Lots of good racing going on, Bauman blasted right into Wiles knocking him out for the win. More of the same in ea race.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oilhed on September 02, 2018, 07:14:52 PM
Helava race, Mees, Carver, Smith, Bauman dicing it up the whole race, Smith dives out for a blast to win.

Lots of good racing going on, Bauman blasted right into Wiles knocking him out for the win. More of the same in ea race.

If it wasn't for Mees, Carver would be a star this year.  Not the most consistent but always in the fight.  Looks great in Semis!  And I actually like him as a human being.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on September 03, 2018, 12:32:55 PM
Great ride, great friends, great racing, perfect weather! What a weekend fellers! Thanks Doug, Scott and Darren for the good company! We had a diverse group, a Triumph, a Yamaha, a Guzzi and a Harley!

The Old Tigger does it again! 690 flawless miles!
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on September 03, 2018, 04:39:44 PM
sorry I missed you, Doug and Darren.

Plan to be there next year.   Settled into vacation.  It's been great.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Darren Williams on September 03, 2018, 05:46:53 PM
Great ride, great friends, great racing, perfect weather! What a weekend fellers! Thanks Doug, Scott and Darren for the good company! We had a diverse group, a Triumph, a Yamaha, a Guzzi and a Harley!

The Old Tigger does it again! 690 flawless miles!

Rolled into home about 5:00. Was dry all the way home until just West of Lake arcadia, about 5 miles from home. Then had a proper down pour the rest of the way in! I had stopped at Seaba Station to check the radar and got everything ready for rain except it was too hot for the rain gear. Got some of those bugs washed off.

Had another great time and 1300 miles!
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on September 04, 2018, 01:52:42 AM
at least I didn't get wet.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Darren Williams on September 04, 2018, 05:50:44 AM
at least I didn't get wet.

Other than the last few miles, the weather was perfect. The company was good with lots of laughs and smiles, and the beer was cold.  The racing was pretty good also. The top four kind of checked out early, but all the way to the last lap the feeling was anyone of the four had a shot at winning. Pretty exciting.

Looking forward to next year.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on September 04, 2018, 05:05:12 PM
sorry I missed you, Doug and Darren.

Plan to be there next year.   Settled into vacation.  It's been great.

So.......you didn't miss me???  :sad:
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on September 05, 2018, 04:16:40 PM
So.......you didn't miss me???  :sad:

Didn't I say "miss you" along with the other miscreants?  BTW, having a great time.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Daniel Kalal on September 05, 2018, 04:44:31 PM
If victory went to the prettiest...
But, it doesn't, and never does.  It was a tough day for the non-Indians.

(http://www.dankalal.net/wildguzzi/threeducs.jpg)
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Guzzistajohn on September 05, 2018, 05:23:11 PM
If victory went to the prettiest...
But, it doesn't, and never does.  It was a tough day for the non-Indians.

(http://www.dankalal.net/wildguzzi/threeducs.jpg)

We were really hoping to see a duc make the main Daniel. The Tribe was much greater than The Family this time.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oilhed on September 06, 2018, 04:37:19 PM
Those Ducs are soooo pretty.  They'd probably be just as competitive if it was a factory effort.  I heard the Duc has a mix of parts and electronics to trick the engine into working.  Amazing!
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on September 10, 2018, 11:44:12 AM
I thought I would check in with you all.  I am kicked back on the balcony with a clear view of the Austrian Alps.  Ernberg. I've got the Dead & Co playing on the speaker.  A great leftover lunch, sandwich, some dried sausage that makes a beefstick look like garbage, some great red wine I bought at their Aldi (5.99 E), and a Partagas cigar.  Like they say, it don't get any better.

The tour has been walking our asses off.  This afternoon was the only rest day and tomorrow is Venice.  Went to the local pool after seeing King Ludwig's castle.  I was the king of the Luge riders, much better than any rollercoaster, you actually have lean and brake it. The group was saying that my Guzzi sized body gave me an advantage with extra initeria.  Told them "not true, If you have to brake, you ain't using the inertia God gave ya."

Saw my first Guzzi at Ludwig's today, Stevlio.  The Dutch, tightwads, seem to like 20 year old sport bikes, kept like we keep ours (rain and no garages?).  The Germans ride anything but there are plenty of Panzer Beemers and a few Mulitstardas in the mix.

Internet is spotty, time is shorter.  My cell phone is only good an MP3 player, the most important thing. 

Time to pack and to think about a late meal or beer. But the wine has left me stationary.....

Give the Guzzi community my best
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: MiLD GRiSO on September 30, 2018, 08:56:48 PM
I thought the Minnesota mile was a decent race even if it was mostly a Polaris Ind. party. Having Other brands salted in the twin final was a plus. My dear wife was a good sport enduring the invigorating 40 degree  evening. We even looked at a California 1400 Touring in Eden Prairie earlier but no demo ride. Hope some of you were among the 5000 who were there.
                                                                                   Ciao,
                                                                                   Brad
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oilhed on October 01, 2018, 06:29:32 AM
So why no semis again?
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Daniel Kalal on October 01, 2018, 07:00:53 AM
So why no semis again?
heats were cancelled and only semis run due to number of entries.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: oilhed on October 01, 2018, 07:27:17 AM
heats were cancelled and only semis run due to number of entries.

First they did it cuz of rain, then cuz of #s.  Hope it doesn't become the norm.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: Daniel Kalal on October 01, 2018, 08:32:03 AM
I hope it doesn't become the norm.
...along with everybody else.  As a provisional card can't be used to put a rider into the main, the event is one-and-done no matter what trivial thing happens.

Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: guzzisteve on October 06, 2018, 02:36:29 PM
Last race and sponsored by Ducati I think, last chance for points.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on October 06, 2018, 08:19:37 PM
Shayna wins the Big APPLE.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: guzzisteve on October 07, 2018, 08:30:44 AM
Lots of great racing on the last race, the fans were delighted w/showmanship of the riders. Kenny retires.
Title: Re: 2018 AFT Flat Track thread
Post by: LowRyter on October 07, 2018, 09:09:32 AM
Pretty neat deal to race close to NYC. 

I hope next year, the winner rides into Times Square.  When we see a the winner's podium and a thousand bikes parade downtown, then we'll know bike racing is big time.