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the relatively recent rise in popularity of intensive dairy farming. A dirty polluting business that I would personally like to see a lot less of, or at least regulate out the pollutants that allow the current intensity of it.
Me, too. There is a 24/7 milking operation by a Dutch company that moved in about 5 miles (as the crow or airplane flies) from us. Manure everywhere, not to mention what it's doing to the aquifer. When the wind is right, there is a pungent odor, too. My old man used to say, "Smells like money, boy.." True, when you are talking about a family farm. Not so true when you are talking about hundreds of cows.
They're violating the law, I'll bet anything. If they are managing their waste treatment and their lagoons properly, you won't be able to smell anything.We have a 6,000 hog hog-raising operation run by a guy I know up the road. He's taken me around the place a few times. (You can't go inside because the hogs are cleaner than you are). The waste is managed properly and you can't smell anything even standing right outside one of the hog houses with 2000 hogs in it.What's most amazing is how they handle dead pigs. They have about a 2% mortality rate, which means 120 dead hogs to be disposed of every 5 months. They put each body in a plastic "mulching" bag, and pile them in a big 3-bay area with open-sided concrete boxes. After a month, they move the remains (with a front-end loader) into the next bay. After another month or two, they move them into the next bay. And after 5 months total, there's nothing left but almost odorless black compost, suitable for fertilizer.At any rate, if it's properly managed, they don't stink, annoy the neighbors or pollute the groundwater or runoff. If it's NOT properly managed, get it sorted ... there's no excuse for it.Lannis
I don't care how 'clean' it is...putting that many animals that close together lowers disease resistance, increases stress, and is contrary to natural selection...all for nothing but profits...
No bar b que for you.
Thank you, OG.May I ask that no matter how strongly one feels about such things or anything -- except riding Guzzis to Kentucky in May -- that we leave this thread to its core subject without heading into the reefs and shoals of other issues? Grazie mille.Bill
But I LIKE having pigs you can cook for barbeque. What I WANT to know is whether I'm going to like barbequed sheep ... ?Lannis
Are there some "activities" associated with this event that just aren't talked about here? I don't want to find out that there's an "initiation" rite after I get there ....
There's only one way to find out, Lannis.. saddle up. If you find you don't like mutton for nuttin.. they'll Shirley have chickens and pigs, too.
Ya won't know until ya try Lannis. Personally, I think you will. Every time I look at this thread I start salivating!
No soup for you.
My fault. The Mutton Nazi was probably willing enough .... !
Bill, If this is a two day ride one way, where abouts would you anticipate stopping after the first day?
That's Mutton Fascist to you. After all, we ride Eyetie, not Bayerische, beasts. Working on that, Bob. Will post here and send emails to those on the list. I am keeping Lannis on that email-out just to make salivate for mutton. Bill
I can't really make any definite plans that far ahead at this point, but the tentative plan so far is to leave here on Thursday the 25th and stay in Princeton, WV that night. Continue on to my sister's house in Liberty, KY Friday, meet up and hang out with y'all on Saturday in Whitesville. Then back to Liberty for the night and head home on Sunday and Monday. If anyone would like to ride down or back with me, you're most welcome to.
Just talked to Chris and reserved our room. The game is afoot..
Great, Charlie. See you there. BTW, "there" for hanging around on Saturday for us, anyway, isn't Whitesville, it's Owensboro, tho we will stop at the former late in day on Saturday to see how prep is going. Think some folks -- you might browse earlier posts -- will be there (Owensboro) as early as Friday.
Took my Butler map up to the Kid's place in Wisconsin to look at places to go, but his dawg ate it.
What is it Bill, about 6 weeks to go?
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