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Time for 600 mile check-up
« on: August 30, 2017, 10:20:07 PM »
I'm sure that in "Hind-Sight" this is going to seem like a stupid question ... but ....

The USE+MAINTENANCE BOOK that came with my new V-7 list  the Transmission oil filter as a CHECK item.   I can find the motor oil filter and have one in hand .     
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Where is (if there is ) the Transmission Oil Filter ?   :embarrassed:

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Re: Time for 600 mile check-up
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2017, 11:57:35 PM »
For what it's worth, here's a wild guzzi thread on checking the trans fluid for a V7 ii

http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=88579.0

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Re: Time for 600 mile check-up
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2017, 11:32:03 AM »
Thanks Rhodan ,

According to that post , I've done it all right , and found the filter (screen) .   Am just a little confused as to why only about 170cc of gear oil came out .    I would have thought the dealer would have known to put 500c  , on the dealer prep ???  :rolleyes:

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Re: Time for 600 mile check-up
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2017, 11:47:12 AM »
There is no check hole for level, so they let it go. I used to put a tie wrap down the top hole, but there is no level check. All you see is there is some oil in it, not the right amount.
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Re: Time for 600 mile check-up
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2017, 11:47:12 AM »

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Re: Time for 600 mile check-up
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2017, 02:39:53 PM »
Also, for some reason the oil in the small block six speed is remarkably reluctant to drain. If only 170 ml came out it may well be that it's because a lot of the original oil is still in there. You'll find out if it blurts a whole lot out of the breather on your first longish run.

My MO with them is to drop the drain plug and screen out and then remove the filler cap with the engine warm if possible and the bike strapped upright. I leave it to drain for as long as possible, ie while I do the rest of the service, and then add the oil as the last thing and definitely DON'T over-fill it. Why the six speed is so picky I have no idea.

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Re: Time for 600 mile check-up
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2017, 06:46:38 PM »
Also, for some reason the oil in the small block six speed is remarkably reluctant to drain. If only 170 ml came out it may well be that it's because a lot of the original oil is still in there. You'll find out if it blurts a whole lot out of the breather on your first longish run.

My MO with them is to drop the drain plug and screen out and then remove the filler cap with the engine warm if possible and the bike strapped upright. I leave it to drain for as long as possible, ie while I do the rest of the service, and then add the oil as the last thing and definitely DON'T over-fill it. Why the six speed is so picky I have no idea.

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correct. I just found this out on my 2017 V7-3. I think by the time about 150-200 CC's come out it has created a suction or vacuum in there. as soon as I cracked the filler cap it poured out.
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Re: Time for 600 mile check-up
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2017, 09:34:45 PM »
Thanks guys

I like the idea of being set-up like a 1960's straight shift car .   The six speeds could have used a lot more difference between each one of them for my taste .     Most of the time I skip 2nd, and 4th .     Or take off in 2nd and skip 3rd, and 5th.   :rolleyes:

 
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Re: Time for 600 mile check-up
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2017, 11:50:58 PM »
The six speeds could have used a lot more difference between each one of them for my taste .     Most of the time I skip 2nd, and 4th .     Or take off in 2nd and skip 3rd, and 5th.

In town, accelerating fast from a stop light, I sometimes do a double shift from 2nd to 4th, but when hitting ~6,500 in each gear, getting on a freeway, I think the gears are laid out fine.  Cruising at higher speeds, such as 80 MPH speed limit in Utah on I15, north of St. George, sometimes I feel for a gear higher than 6th!
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Re: Time for 600 mile check-up
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2017, 11:54:30 PM »
I just found this out on my 2017 V7-3. I think by the time about 150-200 CC's come out it has created a suction or vacuum in there. as soon as I cracked the filler cap it poured out.

Yes, recommended on page 54 in V7 II service manual


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Re: Time for 600 mile check-up
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2017, 11:56:36 PM »
...Why the six speed is so picky I have no idea.

Good question, perhaps the answer is related to having such a small quantity to work with?
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Re: Time for 600 mile check-up
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2017, 12:00:19 AM »
...I used to put a tie wrap down the top hole, but there is no level check. All you see is there is some oil in it, not the right amount.

I tried your tie wrap suggestion, early on, but had no success getting to the bottom.
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