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95 Moto Guzzi Carbie Sport with some nice bits
« on: November 23, 2017, 09:54:44 PM »
This silver Sport looks like it's set up nice with flat sides and Staintune
https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/mcy/6398133021.html




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Re: 95 Moto Guzzi Carbie Sport with some nice bits
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2017, 04:20:55 AM »

That is nice. I saw that bike a few years ago when I was at his house to buy a Ducati. He said he'd never sell it!
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Re: 95 Moto Guzzi Carbie Sport with some nice bits
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2017, 07:09:59 PM »
ohhhhh  :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

I am a sucker for these bikes ... so gorgeous ....

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Re: 95 Moto Guzzi Carbie Sport with some nice bits
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2017, 07:57:30 PM »
Nice upgrades but a little high in price.
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Re: 95 Moto Guzzi Carbie Sport with some nice bits
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Re: 95 Moto Guzzi Carbie Sport with some nice bits
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2017, 05:45:38 AM »
Tom,
   While I don't disagree that, today, the $5500. price is considered" high". Taking into account that these bikes were made for only about two years (3 if you include the 1997 injected Sports), and in limited numbers, it may be justified. IIRC, under 1000 carb Sport models were built, somebody can correct me with the actual production numbers. The Sports were hand built when Dr John was involved at the factory, and they are, IMHO, a high water mark of "modern" Guzzi sport models.
  The upgrade flat side carbs and Staintune exhaust adds to the allure of this one. At some point in time, we may look back and reminisce about $5500. Sport 1100's.  Just my thoughts.


Nice upgrades but a little high in price.
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Re: 95 Moto Guzzi Carbie Sport with some nice bits
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2017, 01:08:10 PM »
Buying the carbs now is about $1,000.00 and I doin't think you can get the Sta in Tune's anymore either...

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Re: 95 Moto Guzzi Carbie Sport with some nice bits
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2017, 03:21:06 PM »
And you my friend, have one of the rarest of rare Sport 1100's, the blue one.  :bow:

Buying the carbs now is about $1,000.00 and I doin't think you can get the Sta in Tune's anymore either...

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Re: 95 Moto Guzzi Carbie Sport with some nice bits
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2017, 12:19:45 AM »
Try $1,400.00 for the carb kit including everything but filters. I don't think $5,500 is that unreasonable. These aren't getting any cheaper.
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Re: 95 Moto Guzzi Carbie Sport with some nice bits
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2017, 08:22:40 AM »
Nice upgrades but a little high in price.

On Craigslist, yes. But the price is not high for a Sport in great condition considering what the auction prices can bring on eBay.

In my experience to get "all the money" it should be represented by a knowledgeable description backed up by at least 20 photos-- on eBay with a contact phone number. A couple of photos on a brief Craigslist ad is unlikely to find a willing buyer.

Craigslist ads are good for bargain pricing in a local market. Ebay auctions have the potential to reach a very wide audience and realize maximum sale prices.
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Re: 95 Moto Guzzi Carbie Sport with some nice bits
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2017, 12:37:16 PM »
It's still on Craigslist.  While the bike may be worth the asking price.  It's worth is what the seller is willing to take in cash.  The current market value isn't $5500 otherwise there would be a sale. Should be lower for a sale.  I'd start putting on the oem parts and sell the take-offs then sell it. 
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Re: 95 Moto Guzzi Carbie Sport with some nice bits
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2017, 07:09:17 PM »
Good point. I think you could sell the carbs and exhaust for at least $1500.00.
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Re: 95 Moto Guzzi Carbie Sport with some nice bits
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2017, 07:15:09 PM »
I'm figuring that it would have cost less to rejet the carbs for the exhaust than buying new carbs.   :tongue:
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Re: 95 Moto Guzzi Carbie Sport with some nice bits
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2017, 06:57:14 AM »
I'm figuring that it would have cost less to rejet the carbs for the exhaust than buying new carbs.   :tongue:
that's what I did for my 95. added a Strada digiplex as well. crossover, low restriction mufflers, runs great

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Re: 95 Moto Guzzi Carbie Sport with some nice bits
« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2017, 07:22:02 AM »
I'm figuring that it would have cost less to rejet the carbs for the exhaust than buying new carbs.   :tongue:

Having had both you will never get the Delorto's to function as well as the FCR's there is somewhere between 20 and 30 years development between the two designs one was made for mass production and the other as the last work in carbs before fuel injection took over.

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Re: 95 Moto Guzzi Carbie Sport with some nice bits
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2017, 07:22:07 AM »
Generally the Guzzi "sports" over the last couple of years in the NE have been selling in the $3,500 range and have not really increased or decreased only stagnated. Sure the FCR are nice but they add to the curb appeal and not the overall value. Same with the Exhaust. While both the carbs and exhaust cost big money new if you remove them who is you buying audience and are they going to pay anything near new?

The issue is the guys who always lusted over Sports and can now afford them are at an age where they can't comfortably ride them. The younger crowd has no interest in what they consider a overweight underpowered bike.


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Re: 95 Moto Guzzi Carbie Sport with some nice bits
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2017, 07:31:21 AM »
I think you guys in the US are a bit spoilt.
I've been keeping my eyes on the Australian market for a while watching Sport 1100s. I have to have one when I get home. Recently there were a couple advertised at $8000 AUD and $9000 AUD. Now the only two for sale in Aus are theses.
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/burns-beach/motorcycles/moto-guzzi-1100-sport/1166201510
Moto Guzzi 1100 Sport
$12,000.00
12,000 AUD =9,133.79 USD
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and this one.
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/midvale/motorcycles/moto-guzzi-1100-sport/1164503320

moto guzzi 1100 sport
$11,000.00
unit 3/30 beaconsfield ave Midvale
Moto guzzi 1100 sport, fuel injected, rare factory blue colour, aftermarket and original pipes. Super low 32,000m kms. 2 owners, hard to find and in excellent condition. Must sell due to relocation. $11,000
11,000 AUD =8,373.81 USD

Just listed -
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/highgate-hill/motorcycles/rare-moto-guzzi/1167133560
Rare moto guzzi
$13,000.00
13,000 AUD =9,890.10 USD
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First of the 1100 sport Moto Guzzi’s, carburettor model 1995. They only made these for one year prior to going fuel injected. These are very rare and hard to find. This has 45k original kms and has recently had all oils, filter and plugs changed. Tyres are 90%, adjustable suspension all round, brembo brakes, stainless exhaust and carbon twin mufflers. This bike is in excellent condition and will not disappoint. These bikes are only going up and up in price and will make a great investment unlike jap bikes.


I'd buy any one of these and happily pay the asking price. In my mind they are sooooo RARE that they can only ever appreciate in price.

$5,500USD seems like a bargain to me!
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Re: 95 Moto Guzzi Carbie Sport with some nice bits
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2017, 07:48:25 AM »
I think you guys in the US are a bit spoilt.
I've been keeping my eyes on the Australian market for a while watching Sport 1100s. I have to have one when I get home. Recently there were a couple advertised at $8000 AUD and $9000 AUD. Now the only two for sale in Aus are theses.
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/burns-beach/motorcycles/moto-guzzi-1100-sport/1166201510
Moto Guzzi 1100 Sport
$12,000.00
12,000 AUD =9,133.79 USD
kinross
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last of the Fuel Injected Sport models.

Brembo braked, Braided Lines, Biturbo Steering damper .Marchenesi Alloy Rims, WP fully Adjustable Suspension, Power Commander II, Dynotuned, K&N Airfilter, Staintune Pipes, Performance Chip, Tinted Screen

Two owners, always garaged and never ridden in rain. Low 37,000kms.

and this one.
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/midvale/motorcycles/moto-guzzi-1100-sport/1164503320

moto guzzi 1100 sport
$11,000.00
unit 3/30 beaconsfield ave Midvale
Moto guzzi 1100 sport, fuel injected, rare factory blue colour, aftermarket and original pipes. Super low 32,000m kms. 2 owners, hard to find and in excellent condition. Must sell due to relocation. $11,000
11,000 AUD =8,373.81 USD
I'd buy either and happily pay the asking price. In my mind they are sooooo RARE that they can only ever appreciate in price.

$5,500USD seems like a bargain to me!

The sale of new motorcycle in the USA is very soft and has been for a few years now. Lots of dealers have years old new old stock sitting on the showroom floor needing to be discounted by thousands off MSRP just to more them. Over on Strom Troopers there was a dealer selling a new leftover 2015 Vee Strom 650 for $3,999 no fee's just tax and tags. The bikes MSRP was something like $8,400. While great for that buyer the already weak secondary market just got knocked back another notch.

Would it be feasible to buy this Sport and import it into AUS?
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Re: 95 Moto Guzzi Carbie Sport with some nice bits
« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2017, 08:14:12 AM »
The sale of new motorcycle in the USA is very soft and has been for a few years now. Lots of dealers have years old new old stock sitting on the showroom floor needing to be discounted by thousands off MSRP just to more them. Over on Strom Troopers there was a dealer selling a new leftover 2015 Vee Strom 650 for $3,999 no fee's just tax and tags. The bikes MSRP was something like $8,400. While great for that buyer the already weak secondary market just got knocked back another notch.

Would it be feasible to buy this Sport and import it into AUS?

THe motorcycle market in Singapore is completely F**ked. There is a ten year registration cost that is currently $6000, on top of $450 road tax every year. When a bike reaches 10 years old it is virtually worthless. With so few Guzzi riders here, I think it will be next to impossible to sell either bike, so I'm in the sad position of having to beg Aussie customs to let me bring my two Guzzis home. (The rule is only one import in 5 years.) With my Bellagio 10 year reg expiring in 6 months and the Jackal approaching 20 years old and expiring in 2021 they will either come home to Aus with me or I'll lose every dollar I put into them less maybe $500 scrap metal value.

another incredible thing is a n Additional Registration Fee on new bikes here.
 Mr Syahrul, who upgrades his motorbike every two to three years just saw his next target motorbike double in price.

He was planning to move on from his year-old $30,000 BMW S1000R to a BMW R1200GS, which cost $40,000 last week.

It will now cost around $80,000.

"Now, I really have to think twice before buying a bike," he said.

I have to go home to Aus.

It is possible to import a Sport 1100 from USA to Aus, but not for me.  :cry:

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Re: 95 Moto Guzzi Carbie Sport with some nice bits
« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2017, 09:43:37 AM »
I bought a silver 11k miles 1996 Sport last year from a guy out of Maine, and I paid with $300.00 shipping included, a total of $3.8k for this bike. This bike came with a nice tank travel bag, also had new tires, and a new cross-over exhaust pipe installed. She does however still have the original exhaust and carbs. For me, the US $5.5k asking price for the PA bike is a little to steep also, but I mainly base my opinion on this bikes value due to the 45k milage that she has under her belt. I own two 1996 and four 1997 1100's, and the lowest cost 1100 in my stable is the blue 21k mileage 1996, that I paid US $1.5k for about a year ago. The most $$$ that I have spend so far for a 1100 is my red 7.2k milage 1997, which was purchased during a liquidation sale of a Wisconsin motorcycle museum. I paid US 5.2k for this bike, which had the Will Creedon chip and a carbon exhaust already installed.

And then there is the "After the Purchase" expenses the at least I usually encounter.... I consider most used bike sellers in the same category as used car sellers, which includes Moto Guzzi bike sellers! I have personally noticed that many owners sell their bikes after the cost of replacing certain items are to costly to justify if considering the bikes value, or they are unable to make repairs by them selfs, and the repair costs from a dealer would be to high for the owner.  I have spend somewhere between at least $500.00, and up to $2500.00 on any of my used bike purchases. Some bikes had issues that I had known about before the purchase, and others I had not known about. All of my 1100 purchased bikes were in need of a complete tuneup, others needed new brake rotors and pads, some had electrical issues, carbs needed rebuilding, bad batteries, good but 10 year old tires, and, and, and... I usually add in my mind at lease $1,000.00 on for unknown repair costs to any used bike purchase, since I can't justify sometimes flying to the bikes location to check her out in person. But this is the price I have to pay for buying a very low production run motorcycle. 

I think that the 1996 silver 1100 out of PA will probably sell for around US $3.5K - $3.8k. I think that the exhaust and carbs add about $800.00 to the overall value of this bike, but the actual 45k mileage bike in my opinion is only worth around US $3k knowing that I paid for the identical model and color bike $3.5k / 11k milage only a couple of month ago. I consider a lower milage bike always a better value, since I can add the extras usually at a reasonable cost, if I were to choose of doing so, but you can't remove the wear and tear of a 21 year old 45k miles used bike.

I do however believe that these bikes will go up in value over time. I think that the 1100, which are being bought today, will fall into mostly long-term ownerships, since most people like me buy these bikes not so much because of their performance, or lack off..... but for the way they look, what they stand for, their rarity, eye candy, and for me mostly the fact that they stand out from the crowed. I own bikes that will put all of my 1100's to shame, if you would only look at their drive train or engine performance, but not many people will pay attention to them when I ride them. This does not happen with the Sport's! Regardless of where I decide to ride or stop for a break, other people, riders or bystanders, and regardless of their ages, will always come over and want to talk and take pictures of my 1100 Sport's. And this by itself tells me that the 1100 Sport is something special, even if still very much undervalued, in my opinion!

I will continue to check on this bike over the next couple of weeks, and I will may decide to submit a (what I think) a fair offer would be to the seller, if the bike is still available.

My above statements only reflect my personal thoughts on the value of the PA bike, and I could be completely off on the value in some other peoples or sellers opinions.

Andy

ps: Please keep your eyes open and let me know if anybody sees a black or bronze/black/brown 1100 for sale, since I'm still looking for them so that I can complete my 1100 collection.......

This is the 1996 Silver 1100 I bought out of Maine earlier this year. I have a original air-box and the cross-over for this bike, so she could become all original again, if ever used as a show-bike in years to come.







This is the Wisconsin Museum bike. I also have a original 97 exhaust system, plus the original ECU chip, so this bike could also be made 100% original again.







Here are some of my other Guzzi's. I'm currently working on my second yellow 97, so she didn't make the picture right now, since she is still sitting on the lift for now.


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Re: 95 Moto Guzzi Carbie Sport with some nice bits
« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2017, 10:10:42 AM »
THe motorcycle market in Singapore is completely F**ked.

That's because it's not really a "market" ....

On this bike here, it's hard to imagine that it will go over $4,000.   Lots of people have given reasons why it should be "worth" $5500, but when Sport buyers can buy nice bikes for 75% of the asking price of this one, the "worth" changes ...

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Re: 95 Moto Guzzi Carbie Sport with some nice bits
« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2017, 11:16:07 AM »
Between the V 11 sport, and the 1100 sport , which bike does the group feel will go up in value more in the future? I suspect the V 11 sport will, just due to the fact that its more "rideable" . As far as looks, I prefer the classic lines of the 1100 sport, but the V 11 sport is a close second in the looks dept.
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Re: 95 Moto Guzzi Carbie Sport with some nice bits
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2017, 12:39:21 PM »
Between the V 11 sport, and the 1100 sport , which bike does the group feel will go up in value more in the future? I suspect the V 11 sport will, just due to the fact that its more "rideable" . As far as looks, I prefer the classic lines of the 1100 sport, but the V 11 sport is a close second in the looks dept.
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Re: 95 Moto Guzzi Carbie Sport with some nice bits
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2017, 12:46:00 PM »
That's because it's not really a "market" ....

On this bike here, it's hard to imagine that it will go over $4,000.   Lots of people have given reasons why it should be "worth" $5500, but when Sport buyers can buy nice bikes for 75% of the asking price of this one, the "worth" changes ...

Lannis

Hi Lannis,

I agree with your $$$ value on the PA bike; however, I'm not sure if I could buy what I would consider a lower milage "Nice Bike" looking at the 1100 Sport for around $4k.... Five of my six 1100's were "nice bikes", but all needed work. I think that the statement "You get what you pay for" is more true than not. For instance, I would never sell any of the bikes that I own for what I bought them for, since my OCD requires that everything has to be done right when I own something. This includes not just getting something to work, but getting it to work done right, which is not necessarily a cheap way of getting it done, especially if you replace bad components with brand name replacements and not just cheap aftermarket crap.

I on average get about one inquire a month from someone here within the US asking me if I would consider selling one of my bikes to them. My answer is always "Thanks for asking, but no thanks". So rest assure, that I for one would never sell any of my bikes for what I bought them for, and the people who contact me about my bikes know this, and they would never think that they would buy one of them for "a nice bike" value deal. So for me, a lower milage, which I consider 20k miles or less, is worth between $3k-4K. But a bike done right, in truly almost perfect condition, which needs nothing / has new brand name components like Brembo brakes and rotors, has no engine or transmission issues, good tires, new battery, perfect visually, and maybe some upgrades like a better exhaust, ECU performance chip, cross-over, a owner and maintenance history..... should go for at least $6k and up from there.

So I think that the value of these bike will go up in time, since most people who buy the 95-97 1100 Sport are a little older by now and appreciate these bikes for what they are. I am also glad that most younger riders are mostly interested in performance, so they usually overlook the 1100's, which keeps the once left around hopefully safe from getting destroyed or just worn out. And my statement about younger riders is just in reference, since I personally know younger riders in their 20's who would love to own one of my bikes, and they would take care of them like I do.

But then again, those are just my opinions on the current and future value of these bikes.

Andy
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Re: 95 Moto Guzzi Carbie Sport with some nice bits
« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2017, 12:53:08 PM »
None .

it's a guzzi , they don't go up in value.............. .......

......... unfortunately this is true for more Guzzi than not.
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Re: 95 Moto Guzzi Carbie Sport with some nice bits
« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2017, 01:44:57 PM »
My take on the subject on which bike to buy next would be either but for different reasons.  The 1100 Sports for their rarity and the V11 Sports for their recent Cycle World article.  Both bikes for their looks.   :wink:

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Re: 95 Moto Guzzi Carbie Sport with some nice bits
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2017, 02:17:01 PM »
Hi Lannis,

I agree with your $$$ value on the PA bike; however, I'm not sure if I could buy what I would consider a lower milage "Nice Bike" looking at the 1100 Sport for around $4k.... Five of my six 1100's were "nice bikes", but all needed work. I think that the statement "You get what you pay for" is more true than not. For instance, I would never sell any of the bikes that I own for what I bought them for, since my OCD requires that everything has to be done right when I own something. This includes not just getting something to work, but getting it to work done right, which is not necessarily a cheap way of getting it done, especially if you replace bad components with brand name replacements and not just cheap aftermarket crap.

I on average get about one inquire a month from someone here within the US asking me if I would consider selling one of my bikes to them. My answer is always "Thanks for asking, but no thanks". So rest assure, that I for one would never sell any of my bikes for what I bought them for, and the people who contact me about my bikes know this, and they would never think that they would buy one of them for "a nice bike" value deal. So for me, a lower milage, which I consider 20k miles or less, is worth between $3k-4K. But a bike done right, in truly almost perfect condition, which needs nothing / has new brand name components like Brembo brakes and rotors, has no engine or transmission issues, good tires, new battery, perfect visually, and maybe some upgrades like a better exhaust, ECU performance chip, cross-over, a owner and maintenance history..... should go for at least $6k and up from there.

So I think that the value of these bike will go up in time, since most people who buy the 95-97 1100 Sport are a little older by now and appreciate these bikes for what they are. I am also glad that most younger riders are mostly interested in performance, so they usually overlook the 1100's, which keeps the once left around hopefully safe from getting destroyed or just worn out. And my statement about younger riders is just in reference, since I personally know younger riders in their 20's who would love to own one of my bikes, and they would take care of them like I do.

But then again, those are just my opinions on the current and future value of these bikes.

Andy

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Re: 95 Moto Guzzi Carbie Sport with some nice bits
« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2017, 11:43:09 PM »
They`ve been $4500 for the last 10 years. They will be $4500 for the next 10 years

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Re: 95 Moto Guzzi Carbie Sport with some nice bits
« Reply #27 on: November 29, 2017, 11:14:34 AM »








This is the Wisconsin Museum bike. I also have a original 97 exhaust system, plus the original ECU chip, so this bike could also be made 100% original again.







Here are some of my other Guzzi's. I'm currently working on my second yellow 97, so she didn't make the picture right now, since she is still sitting on the lift for now.




I gotta love crazy guys with a collection like that. WOW.  I prefer the LV as the the Sports kill my back. I bought a Mille new in 91 and could have  bought a new 90 LM V big valve for $500 more that was sitting next to it.  Worst mistake I ever made ..... hum that is after unloading my round case 750 GT Duck for $750 in 1991. ☹️
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Re: 95 Moto Guzzi Carbie Sport with some nice bits
« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2017, 07:28:05 PM »
They`ve been $4500 for the last 10 years. They will be $4500 for the next 10 years

Not to start something up here, but your statement is so not true......

They were maybe $4.5k ten years ago, but I know of several 1100 Sports which sold during the past two years, and not counting some of my bikes that I bought, which one sold for $8k, and two others for $7k. There is also currently one for sale in Asheville for $9k. And yes, you can buy these bikes for $4.5k or even less, but you better plan on spending another $1K, $2k, or even more to get them updated or repaired of whatever issues they may have. So then the question becomes on how much did you then pay in reality for this $4.5k bike? In my world, money that I know ahead of time which I need to spend on any vehicle that I buy is going to get included in the purchase cost, and then there is an additional amount to cover unknowns, which always happen. So when I look at any of my bikes that cost me lets say $4.5k, and I had to pay an additional $2k to get them up to perfect condition, then was the purchase cost still only $4.5K???? I think not. You would tell stories to people making them believe that a bike that you paid additional $$$ for to get it in pristine condition was purchased for only $4.5k!

On the other hand, please let me know of any low milage and in pristine condition, needing nothing 1995-1998 1100 Sports for sale with an asking price of $4.5k, since I would love to buy them all at that cost.

People who make assumptions or statements need to compare apples with apples, and not apples with oranges......

Andy
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Re: 95 Moto Guzzi Carbie Sport with some nice bits
« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2017, 11:02:14 AM »
Not to start something up here, but your statement is so not true......

They were maybe $4.5k ten years ago, but I know of several 1100 Sports which sold during the past two years, and not counting some of my bikes that I bought, which one sold for $8k, and two others for $7k. There is also currently one for sale in Asheville for $9k. And yes, you can buy these bikes for $4.5k or even less, but you better plan on spending another $1K, $2k, or even more to get them updated or repaired of whatever issues they may have. So then the question becomes on how much did you then pay in reality for this $4.5k bike? In my world, money that I know ahead of time which I need to spend on any vehicle that I buy is going to get included in the purchase cost, and then there is an additional amount to cover unknowns, which always happen. So when I look at any of my bikes that cost me lets say $4.5k, and I had to pay an additional $2k to get them up to perfect condition, then was the purchase cost still only $4.5K???? I think not. You would tell stories to people making them believe that a bike that you paid additional $$$ for to get it in pristine condition was purchased for only $4.5k!

On the other hand, please let me know of any low milage and in pristine condition, needing nothing 1995-1998 1100 Sports for sale with an asking price of $4.5k, since I would love to buy them all at that cost.

People who make assumptions or statements need to compare apples with apples, and not apples with oranges......

Andy

Just because 1 or 2 people paid extraordinary money for a bike is not indicative of what the market is generally at. Over the last 3 or 4 years I have watch several Sports get listed for 5 to 6K and eventually sell for $3,400 to $3,800. For the last year I haven't been too involved in the buyers segment of the market so maybe they are now bringing 25% more than what they were??

Typically there are two schools of thought when buying used driven by if you are a DIY'er or a pay someone else to do it type.

1. The DIY'er looks for the best value and hope to save some money hoping they'll have a "good" bike in the end.
2. The Pay some else type looks for the best cleanest, lowest mileage bike that appears to need very little or nothing and pays a premium hoping they have a "good" bike.

In the end neither is wrong but paying more up front doesn't guarantee you get a better bike.
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