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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: twowheeladdict on March 07, 2023, 06:14:31 AM
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Customers who purchase a new Moto Guzzi after participation to a 2023 Moto Guzzi Experience, are eligible for up to $1,250.00* off the purchase of their new V100 or V85 TT.
https://www.motoguzzi.com/us_EN/mg-exp-2023/?sap-outbound-id=114DCAA088AAC82E3946C88F727EFAFAA3DE7BBD&utm_source=SAPHybris&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2554&utm_term=MG%20USA%20-%20MG%20EXP23___DISCOVER%20MORE&utm_content=EN
Yellowstone, Smoky Mountains, or the Ozarks on the V100 and V85TT.
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That really seems like a fun trip, and a heck of a deal if you were planning on buying anyways.
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Looks like Guzzi goes halfsies with you.
*The promotion provides a customer cash offer based off the registration group for the Moto Guzzi Experience. If you sign up to rent a Moto Guzzi and pay $2,500.00 you will be entitled to $1,250.00 customer cash. If you sign up to ride your own bike and pay $1,500.00 you are entitled to $750.00 customer cash. If you sign up as a passenger and pay $1,000.00 you are entitled to $500.00 customer cash. This Promotion can be combined with any current promotions offered by Moto Guzzi. This offer only applies to new and unregistered V100 and V85 TT models. This offer is only valid until December 31st, 2023.
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That really seems like a fun trip, and a heck of a deal if you were planning on buying anyways.
My thoughts exactly. If I were planning on buying a V100 I would definitely do the Ozarks trip. $1250 extra for the trip and 650 miles on the bike, is worth it to try before spending $17000 on the bike and never falling in love with it.
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My thoughts exactly. If I were planning on buying a V100 I would definitely do the Ozarks trip. $1250 extra for the trip and 650 miles on the bike, is worth it to try before spending $17000 on the bike and never falling in love with it.
Plus when you add in lodging, fuel, etc for all those days.. It would be hard to do the trip much cheaper by yourself, on your own bike.
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My thoughts exactly. If I were planning on buying a V100 I would definitely do the Ozarks trip. $1250 extra for the trip and 650 miles on the bike, is worth it to try before spending $17000 on the bike and never falling in love with it.
This will be a first-class ride through my stomping grounds. Highly recommended for those with the $$$$ to spend:
https://www.motoguzzi.com/us_EN/mg-exp-2023/ozark-2023/
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The Moto Guzzi ride experience is back for 2023 with rides in Yellowstone, Smokey Mountains, and the Ozarks. Last year they used V85TT and this year will be V100 Mandellos.
https://www.motoguzzi.com/us_EN/mg-exp-2023/ (https://www.motoguzzi.com/us_EN/mg-exp-2023/)
On a lark I looked up Yellowstone as it's on my bucket list. Long story short (and encouraged by my understanding wife) I booked that event and will spend 4-days riding around MT and WY on a V100 Mandello. Should be quite the adventure!
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Good for you, that’s a beautiful area to ride a motorcycle, have fun!!!
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Sounds like a BLAST, but I think I'll ride the Ozarks on this for the price of gas and ride back home :thumb:
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A buddy and I signed up for the Yellowstone trip and are taking our wives. I rented the V100. This trip is now sold out. You have to reserve within a few days of announcement. Yellowstone sold out quickly last year as well.
I test rode the V100 at AF1 Austin last weekend. It is a great bike. Look forward to riding on Yellowstone trip. Spite's Corner just did a review on the V100. See link below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njhOQc4-iOo
We did the Moto Guzzi Experience AR trip in fall 2021, and it was awesome. Piaggio sponsored a great trip. And, you get a special discount if you purchase a new V100 and V85 before end of 2023.
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A buddy and I signed up for the Yellowstone trip and are taking our wives. I rented the V100. This trip is now sold out. You have to reserve within a few days of announcement. Yellowstone sold out quickly last year as well.
I test rode the V100 at AF1 Austin last weekend. It is a great bike. Look forward to riding on Yellowstone trip. Spite's Corner just did a review on the V100. See link below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njhOQc4-iOo
We did the Moto Guzzi Experience AR trip in fall 2021, and it was awesome. Piaggio sponsored a great trip. And, you get a special discount if you purchase a new V100 and V85 before end of 2023.
Looking forward to meeting you and your friend. By all accounts the area and Experience trips are awesome.
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Awesome give us a report after !!
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Great scenery in those locations...should be a fantastic trip! Enjoy!!! :gotpics:
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The Moto Guzzi ride experience is back for 2023 with rides in Yellowstone, Smokey Mountains, and the Ozarks. Last year they used V85TT and this year will be V100 Mandellos.
https://www.motoguzzi.com/us_EN/mg-exp-2023/ (https://www.motoguzzi.com/us_EN/mg-exp-2023/)
On a lark I looked up Yellowstone as it's on my bucket list. Long story short (and encouraged by my understanding wife) I booked that event and will spend 4-days riding around MT and WY on a V100 Mandello. Should be quite the adventure!
Cool! You going to use that discount to buy one if you fall in love with it? You will love riding around the Yellowstone area. Are they planning to go up to Red Lodge over the Beartooth Pass?
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Cool! You going to use that discount to buy one if you fall in love with it? You will love riding around the Yellowstone area. Are they planning to go up to Red Lodge over the Beartooth Pass?
The Yellowstone itinerary is:
Day 1 - Bozeman, MT to Red Lodge, MT with no specific route mentioned (~150 mi)
Day 2 - Rt 212 (Bearthooth Highway), Gallatin National Forrest and Yellowstone then down 296 to Cody, WY (150+ mi)
Day 3 - Back through Yellowstone, with several stops including Old Faithful and the Yellowstone river ending in Prey, MT (~150 mi)
Day 4 - North on 191 towards Big Sky then loop back to Bozeman (~100 mi)
I've only had my V85 for a couple years and plan to keep it. Will be another couple years before I'd consider a V100. Even with $1500 off it's still quite expensive.
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I’m jealous, tried last year to sign up for that trip but it sold out quick, Wasn’t in the cards this year, have fun.
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Yes it's expensive but compared to other brands right in the ballpark and looks to be a good deal coming from a guy who has had a couple of Harleys.
kk
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Does it sound expensive to you guys?
It includes 5 nights hotels and 5 days of meals and the bike rental... I dunno. Sounds pretty good to me.
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Does it sound expensive to you guys?
It includes 5 nights hotels and 5 days of meals and the bike rental... I dunno. Sounds pretty good to me.
I have been using hotel points for personal use for 20 years. I ran out of points in 2022 because of $&@?/, and now have to swallow $125 a night stays which is why I am trying to get back into camping. Personally, I can eat for an average of $20 a day. Gas for 300 miles a day average would be around $25 a day. Add incidentals and I’m under $200 a day staying in hotels. Drop down to camping and now I am down to under $100 a day.
Of course sharing a room or campsite drops it down to around $100 / $75 a day so traveling with a friend who is willing to share a room makes hotel rooms appealing.
5 nights shared would be $300. 5 days food $100. 4 days riding at an average of 200 miles about $60. So, around $500 with incidentals.
$1000 extra for a guide? If I were planning to take advantage of the $750 discount then it would be worth it to meet other Guzzi enthusiasts. Otherwise, not worth it.
Of course you have to consider that your family income is at a whole different level than my family income which is going to affect our perspective on expenses.
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Customers who purchase a new Moto Guzzi after participation to a 2023 Moto Guzzi Experience, are eligible for up to $1,250.00* off the purchase of their new V100 or V85 TT.
https://www.motoguzzi.com/us_EN/mg-exp-2023/?sap-outbound-id=114DCAA088AAC82E3946C88F727EFAFAA3DE7BBD&utm_source=SAPHybris&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2554&utm_term=MG%20USA%20-%20MG%20EXP23___DISCOVER%20MORE&utm_content=EN
Yellowstone, Smoky Mountains, or the Ozarks on the V100 and V85TT.
I did the one in California in 2021. It was fantastic. Run by a bunch of young guys from Piaggio marketing. Led by a professional rider. Well planned over excellent routed. Did mountains, canyons, desert (including a little light off road), and PCH. Good lodging. Excellent meals. Great fellowship with other Guzzi enthusiast (and a couple that had never ridden a Guzzi before). And I got a credit out of it that "forced" me into buying a new V85. Just Do It!
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The 2021 AR trip was also outstanding. The Piaggio van handled luggage and delivered to each hotel we stayed at. Piaggio covered all the hotel and meal costs. It is awesome to have a guided tour. We also had a professional rider who raced Pikes Peak a few years ago. Really incredible experience. Having a van and everything planned makes the trip so much more enjoyable. You don't have to worry about planning, riding routes, gas locations, restaurants, or hotels. Just show up, and follow the person in front of you.
I highly recommend the trip. It is expensive, but really worth it. And having a credit for a Moto Guzzi purchase is icing on the cake.
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I did the one in California in 2021. It was fantastic. Run by a bunch of young guys from Piaggio marketing. Led by a professional rider. Well planned over excellent routed. Did mountains, canyons, desert (including a little light off road), and PCH. Good lodging. Excellent meals. Great fellowship with other Guzzi enthusiast (and a couple that had never ridden a Guzzi before). And I got a credit out of it that "forced" me into buying a new V85. Just Do It!
How is the new purchase handled?
You go to your dealership with proof of the discount?
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How is the new purchase handled?
You go to your dealership with proof of the discount?
Once I located the bike I wanted I just emailed both the dealer and the Piaggio USA marketing guys and they took care of it.
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Does it sound expensive to you guys?
It includes 5 nights hotels and 5 days of meals and the bike rental... I dunno. Sounds pretty good to me.
Yeah.. Sounds good to me.
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I have been using hotel points for personal use for 20 years. I ran out of points in 2022 because of $&@?/, and now have to swallow $125 a night stays which is why I am trying to get back into camping. Personally, I can eat for an average of $20 a day. Gas for 300 miles a day average would be around $25 a day. Add incidentals and I’m under $200 a day staying in hotels. Drop down to camping and now I am down to under $100 a day.
Of course sharing a room or campsite drops it down to around $100 / $75 a day so traveling with a friend who is willing to share a room makes hotel rooms appealing.
5 nights shared would be $300. 5 days food $100. 4 days riding at an average of 200 miles about $60. So, around $500 with incidentals.
$1000 extra for a guide? If I were planning to take advantage of the $750 discount then it would be worth it to meet other Guzzi enthusiasts. Otherwise, not worth it.
Of course you have to consider that your family income is at a whole different level than my family income which is going to affect our perspective on expenses.
You're a little light on the hotel costs. 21C in Bentonville starts at $210 per night. Rates at the lodge at Mount Magazine could be up to $220, depending upon which rooms are reserved.
And they're Not eating on $20 per day. They're going to spend more than $20 per meal.
I've lived and ridden in The Ozarks for nearly 30-years and have had my share of $20 days (food and fuel) and $49 nights (no tell motels).
This isn't one of those trips. Sometimes it's nice to roll First Class.
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You're a little light on the hotel costs. 21C in Bentonville starts at $210 per night. Rates at the lodge at Mount Magazine could be up to $220, depending upon which rooms are reserved.
And they're Not eating on $20 per day. They're going to spend more than $20 per meal.
I've lived and ridden in The Ozarks for nearly 30-years and have had my share of $20 days (food and fuel) and $49 nights (no tell motels).
This isn't one of those trips. Sometimes it's nice to roll First Class.
I wasn't trying to compare to where they are staying and eating. Just stating what I would be spending on a trip with a companion rider. I'm sure the majority of these trip participants are in a different economic situation than I am. Just like when I pull into a campground with my home made trailer amongst all the Class A motorhomes. Also, being an introvert, following others and dealing with the group dynamics would be more stress than enjoyment.
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Does it sound expensive to you guys?
It includes 5 nights hotels and 5 days of meals and the bike rental... I dunno. Sounds pretty good to me.
I think the trip sounds like you would be hard pressed to do the same on your own dime for (much) less. My only difference would be riding a lot more miles on a 5 day trip. I am no Iron Butt, but 100-150mi/day seems like a lot more managed itinerary than I would be looking for. For the cost of food/lodging/bike rental or transport, doesnt seem easy to beat on a dollars and cents basis.
Also, any motorcycle trip into MT that doesnt take you to the Shonkin Sag and/or Flathead Valley is a non-starter for me :thumb: But of course I am biased having lived in Greenough and Helena
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I think the trip sounds like you would be hard pressed to do the same on your own dime for (much) less. My only difference would be riding a lot more miles on a 5 day trip. I am no Iron Butt, but 100-150mi/day seems like a lot more managed itinerary than I would be looking for. For the cost of food/lodging/bike rental or transport, doesnt seem easy to beat on a dollars and cents basis.
Also, any motorcycle trip into MT that doesnt take you to the Shonkin Sag and/or Flathead Valley is a non-starter for me :thumb: But of course I am biased having lived in Greenough and Helena
The itinerary indicates there are scenic stops along the route for things like Yellowstone River and Old Faithful. I'm sure these stops are more for photo ops than bio breaks/rests.
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The itinerary indicates there are scenic stops along the route for things like Yellowstone River and Old Faithful. I'm sure these stops are more for photo ops than bio breaks/rests. I intend to just take it all in and enjoy the 'experience'.
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I remember on a motorcycle trip with a buddy when I was in the Army on leave. I was riding my R75/5 and he on his CB 450, that will tell how long ago this was. We were in the Flathead Valley known for it cherries orchards, coming around a curve we saw a fruit stand being attended by a gorgeous blonde. There was a sign on the stand that said "Want a Cherry." Both of us about fell off our bikes.
kk
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I think the trip sounds like you would be hard pressed to do the same on your own dime for (much) less. My only difference would be riding a lot more miles on a 5 day trip. I am no Iron Butt, but 100-150mi/day seems like a lot more managed itinerary than I would be looking for. For the cost of food/lodging/bike rental or transport, doesnt seem easy to beat on a dollars and cents basis.
Also, any motorcycle trip into MT that doesnt take you to the Shonkin Sag and/or Flathead Valley is a non-starter for me :thumb: But of course I am biased having lived in Greenough and Helena
When I did the California trip in 2021 we did quite a bit more than the mileage listed in the advertisement.
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When I did the California trip in 2021 we did quite a bit more than the mileage listed in the advertisement.
I'm wondering if they do an assessment of the riders in the group to determine the miles and the pace. My wife organizes equestrian trips for her and her friends and then the outfitters learn that they are all experienced riders they up the experience to challenging.
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I'm wondering if they do an assessment of the riders in the group to determine the miles and the pace. My wife organizes equestrian trips for her and her friends and then the outfitters learn that they are all experienced riders they up the experience to challenging.
While they had the skeleton of the trip planned (to include stopping points with hotels each night) they did adjust the itinerary daily to get to the best roads between point A and point B. As is usual in motorcycling, it was about the ride not the destination. Probably experience levels of the guests were a factor.
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Yeah.. Sounds good to me.
if a fellow had some time off, might be fun for tag along hobo tour <Guzzi content> :wink:
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I think the trip sounds like you would be hard pressed to do the same on your own dime for (much) less. My only difference would be riding a lot more miles on a 5 day trip. I am no Iron Butt, but 100-150mi/day seems like a lot more managed itinerary than I would be looking for. For the cost of food/lodging/bike rental or transport, doesnt seem easy to beat on a dollars and cents basis.
Also, any motorcycle trip into MT that doesnt take you to the Shonkin Sag and/or Flathead Valley is a non-starter for me :thumb: But of course I am biased having lived in Greenough and Helena
I don't think there's any restrictions on where or how long you ride if you don't want to follow the group.
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While they had the skeleton of the trip planned (to include stopping points with hotels each night) they did adjust the itinerary daily to get to the best roads between point A and point B. As is usual in motorcycling, it was about the ride not the destination. Probably experience levels of the guests were a factor.
Hopefully there will be at least two groups: Fast Folks who want to scrape pegs and Tourist Riders who want to enjoy the view. I'm definitely in the later group.
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For those who have done guided trips like this, how much do you tip the guides? I've read everything from 'toss the guy a 50' to 10% of the event which would be $250. It's 4 days of riding BTW.
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For those who have done guided trips like this, how much do you tip the guides? I've read everything from 'toss the guy a 50' to 10% of the event which would be $250. It's 4 days of riding BTW.
I asked the guy in charge if tipping the tour leader was ok. He told me no tipping. That’s was the MG Experience USA in 2021…
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I asked the guy in charge if tipping the tour leader was ok. He told me no tipping. That’s was the MG Experience USA in 2021…
Gotta love the Europeans... If this was a US-based company trip, you'd be presented with an ipad prefilled to 15%-20%-25% tip options every time the guide flipped on their turn signal
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If you like the service,slip the guide a 50 or 100, boss doesn’t need to know.
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Gotta love the Europeans... If this was a US-based company trip, you'd be presented with an ipad prefilled to 15%-20%-25% tip options every time the guide flipped on their turn signal
I wish we'd just pay people a fair wage. I don't get it when I pick-up take out and not getting "service". I'm sure it's me, being the resident jackass here but I don't get the rules of the road. I try to give 20% when I'm in a sit down place. 15% used to be the rule.
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I asked the guy in charge if tipping the tour leader was ok. He told me no tipping. That’s was the MG Experience USA in 2021…
That would be especially admirable if was an Italian home office employee, because in that case he was probably making Euro 1500 or 2000 a month take home.
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That would be especially admirable if was an Italian home office employee, because in that case he was probably making Euro 1500 or 2000 a month take home.
No, all Americans. I think all Piaggio Americas marketing employees.
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I wish we'd just pay people a fair wage. I don't get it when I pick-up take out and not getting "service". I'm sure it's me, being the resident jackass here but I don't get the rules of the road. I try to give 20% when I'm in a sit down place. 15% used to be the rule.
So, you'd rather everything cost 20% more, but no tipping?
Personally, in the service industry I would rather they "earn" their tip by providing a great customer experience. That weeds out the slackers.
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I'll bring a bunch of 10's, 20's and some 50's to dole out if someone goes above and beyond. Also like to leave something for housekeeping folks.
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Less than a week away! Here's the route:
(https://i.ibb.co/Y7H2cbQ/2023-MG-Exp-map.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Y7H2cbQ)
There will be several stops throughout the tour including Old Faithful and the Yellowstone falls.
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That’s a beautiful part of the country, have fun and post some pics.
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Less than a week away! Here's the route:
(https://i.ibb.co/Y7H2cbQ/2023-MG-Exp-map.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Y7H2cbQ)
There will be several stops throughout the tour including Old Faithful and the Yellowstone falls.
Looking forward to your write up about your experience with the tour and the V100. Have a great time!
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Take two cameras: One for you and one for us.
Let us know what you think of the bike.
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Is anyone else going besides Chris (ssrealty) and me?
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The only caution I would have on a trip”like this is the temptation to ride so fast that you are not enjoying it because you are concentrating so hard on keeping up with the group who are doing the same thing that you don’t see anything but the road in front of your wheel.I have had some recent rides like that and they were not really fun for me.Unless you are there to thoroughly test the capabilities of the new bike,take it easy and enjoy the ride.
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The only caution I would have on a trip”like this is the temptation to ride so fast that you are not enjoying it because you are concentrating so hard on keeping up with the group who are doing the same thing that you don’t see anything but the road in front of your wheel.I have had some recent rides like that and they were not really fun for me.Unless you are there to thoroughly test the capabilities of the new bike,take it easy and enjoy the ride.
That's the plan - ride with the tourists, not the knee draggers.
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In my experience the Ricky Racers are more concerned with ego and showing everyone how fast they can go. Until they, or someone else ends up in the woods on their back, or worse. That’s why they make race tracks. Smell the roses.
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If anyone is going on the Yellowstone trip I recommend riding the Chief Joseph Memorial Highway, endless curves and constant climbs and decents.
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The Yellowstone ride experience was outstanding!. We took off from Bozeman, MT for Red Cloud on day one, riding a mix of roads ranging from in-town to 70 mph sweepers to a little 90+ super slab. Day 2 on the Beartooth Highway was epic as was Chief Joseph Highway. Yellowstone riding was a mixed bag of beautiful 30-50 mph roads but also very heavy tourist traffic spots where it was bumper to bumper for a while. Saturday afternoon was heavy thunderstorms with poor visibility.
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Overall it was a very well run tour with great food, good lodging and epic roads. I'll be looking to sign up again next year - hopefully to ride a new Stelvio.
Here's my impression of the V100 Mandello which I rode 95% of the time:
I rode about 740 miles (18 hours) on the V100 Mandello. This was the Marine Aviation limited edition which comes with heated grips and quick shifter but not the semi-automatic suspension of the S model. The four rain modes - Sport, Street, Tour and Rain - have subtle but noticeable differences. I used Tour most of the time which had smoother steady speed behavior for most of the ride but switched to Sport for Beartooth Highway and other twistier bits. Saturday afternoon was heavy rain so I went with that mode which really softens throttle response and keeps the aero wings deployed while the bike is running. More about those in a bit.
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The riding position is very reminiscent of my Griso with slightly flat bars and higher, more rear set pegs. Seat height was lower than expected. I felt more 'in' the bike than on it and was able to flat foot at stop without having to scooch forward despite my stumpy 30" inseam legs. For Beartooth and twisty the position is great but long hours in the saddle on less challenging roads left my knees and hips sore. The two pillion riders who were on V100's said their accommodations were 'ok' but that the V85 was much more comfortable. Their seat is about 4" higher than the rider and both felt the seat was too small for long days. The electronic adjustable windscreen worked well for me in the low position with clean air above my shoulders. The upper position created a little buffeting. For longer rides a larger tour screen would be better and above 40 mph (maybe 50) the adjustment is disabled, ostensibly to prevent over-stressing the motor with too much wind pressure. Seat is firm like most OEM saddles and my butt was burning by the end of the day even with my sheepskin pad.
Rating: B- largely due to my old joints and preferences.
The handling is a pretty perfect balance of stability and agility. The long swing arm keeps the bike planted at 80+ mph sweepers and 90+ straights. I hit 104 when passing a truck and the bike was rock steady, undisturbed by the speed or truck turbulence. The 20 mph switchbacks were easily taken at nearly doubly that speed and the bike smoothy transitions from side to side. Front brakes are stout with good feel, only needing one or two fingers at most. The rear is easily modulated and was fine for trail braking into turns. Ride quality was a little harsh but that's mostly because I'm accustomed to the V85's plushness and not really playing with settings to tune the bike to my liking.
Rating: A
The new water cooled engine is a revelation. It's almost Aprilia like but still a Guzzi. While it pulls cleanly from 2500 rpm it buzzes and shudders a little, preferring revs of 3500 or more. We had to get some more miles on the engine but by the afternoon of day 2 we accumulated enough to change the shift light and use the upper rev range. Below 5000 the torque is good but above that the engine pull like the proverbial freight train. It's also smoother there and I found myself leaving it in 3rd gear to run from 30-65 mph.
Engine Rating: A+
The quick shifter took some getting used to. At partial throttle is was clunky and jerky and just didn't work well. one of the Piaggio guys set me straight, explaining that it should be used with full or closed throttle. I did that and it worked pretty much perfectly with smooth, seamless up and down shifts. I quickly adopted to this and have to say when used correctly, the quick shifter transmission is the best one I've ever experienced on a Guzzi.
Transmission Rating: A
Picking at nits:
- The horn must have been sourced from an Aprillia scooter with a feeble 'meep-meep' that I could barely hear on the road.
- Cruise control is also sourced from Aprillia and is at 12 o'clock high where you can't reach it with your thumb OR index finger without removing your hand from the grip.
- There is NO storage under the seat. I was able to fold and jam my baseball cap under the pillion section but then it wouldn't release. I wound up putting my cap in another bike's top case.
- The throttle spring feels heavier than the V85. Even with my cramp buster my wrist was aching by the end of the day and that was with using cruise as much as possible. Can't really blame Guzzi as it's an Euro regulatory thing but still, modification are needed for all-day riding.
So, would I trade my V85 for a V100? No. For all the reasons I sold the Griso I wouldn't make a V100 my primary bike. It's too cramped and too stiff for where and how I ride.
When (if?) a new V100 Stelvio is released it may be a very different outcome. I'll be sure to sign up for THAT riding experience!
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Excellent...hard to beat riding in that area of the country, simply spectacular roads and scenery.
No group photo at the top of the Beartooth?
You mention Red Cloud (?)...the picture looks like Red Lodge at the base of the Beartooth on the Montana side.
Did you guys make it all the way thru Yellowstone down to the Tetons and into Jackson Hole for a loop or where did the ride end up?
Sounds like great fun!!
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What a blast
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Excellent...hard to beat riding in that area of the country, simply spectacular roads and scenery.
No group photo at the top of the Beartooth?
You mention Red Cloud (?)...the picture looks like Red Lodge at the base of the Beartooth on the Montana side.
Did you guys make it all the way thru Yellowstone down to the Tetons and into Jackson Hole for a loop or where did the ride end up?
Sounds like great fun!!
We went through Yellowstone and stayed at the Chico Resort and Springs in Prey, then back through Yellowstone and 'home' to Bozeman.
The guy giving the peace sign is moto journalist Peter Jones who regularly contributes to Rider and other publications.
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When my friend and I rode in Yellowstone last July,the only time it wasn’t horrible was early in the morning before the tourons hit the roads.The most enjoyable ride was when we rode out to West Yellowstone on the way to the Idaho Guzzi rally.Yellowstone was sweltering hot during the day and chilly at night.
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@egschade, awesome write up and glad you enjoyed the experience!
In an earlier post you wrote "ride with the tourists, not the knee draggers.", but in your writeup you mentioned doubling the speed in corners and passing trucks at triple digits! If that is the ride with the tourists pace I probably won't be doing one of those tours. :undecided:
Or was it just the bike that felt so competent that you couldn't resist running with the knee draggers? :bike-037:
The throttle spring on my 2022 V85TT is definitely stiff. I have to grab the throttle higher up so my wrist is level when holding speed and good leather gloves provide the friction needed to hold it steady. Definitely use the cruise control whenever possible.
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@egschade, Excellent combination of ride report and bike review. :thumb: :thumb:
I'm sorry Piaggio didn't have a V100 Stelvio available yet for you to enjoy without sore knees and hips. The Stelvio version will likely be more spacious all around, including larger pillion seat.
Personally I am happy to have slightly less sporty riding performance in exchange for greatly improved all day comfort.
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@egschade, awesome write up and glad you enjoyed the experience!
In an earlier post you wrote "ride with the tourists, not the knee draggers.", but in your writeup you mentioned doubling the speed in corners and passing trucks at triple digits! If that is the ride with the tourists pace I probably won't be doing one of those tours. :undecided:
Or was it just the bike that felt so competent that you couldn't resist running with the knee draggers? :bike-037:
The throttle spring on my 2022 V85TT is definitely stiff. I have to grab the throttle higher up so my wrist is level when holding speed and good leather gloves provide the friction needed to hold it steady. Definitely use the cruise control whenever possible.
Though still a brand new model the bike felt familiar, similar to my Griso 1200. There were no real knee draggers in the group and the 'fast' group was running at what I would consider 7/10ths - easily within my comfort zone once I adjusted to the overall higher speeds of the open western roads. A couple riders would gap me in the tighter, blind corners but turns out they had all ridden the route before.
The V100 IS very confidence inspiring and since I was on a sport touring bike I rode it that way. When on the V85 I was more chill and relaxed at a slightly slower pace.
As for the throttle I had the foresight to bring my cramp buster which was a wrist saver. Somehow I lost it during a bike switch and rode w/o it the last couple hours which were rather uncomfortable. Was able to use the cruise control for some of that time for relief. I ride with Biltwell grips on my V85 which are rounded in the middle and larger than stock. Those, along with a cramp buster, means no issues with the stiff throttle spring.
(https://i.ibb.co/DDkTwpZ/throttle-grip.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DDkTwpZ)
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Hey, anyone going to Bentonville AR tomorrow? Just wondering, I got an invite in email.
$1500 for eats & motel to ride w/them on your bike, 5 nights .