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Re: MGNOC National Rally in NH 2021
« Reply #150 on: February 09, 2021, 08:16:16 AM »


Bike Week was held last year and didn't appear to be the super spreader that Sturgis was.


Super spreader ?  I cannot find anything that supports that.  The CDC's analysis was able to come up with 86 cases from an attendance of approximately 460,000.

"Fifty-one primary event-associated cases were identified, and 35 secondary or tertiary cases occurred among household, social, and workplace contacts, for a total of 86 cases"


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Re: MGNOC National Rally in NH 2021
« Reply #151 on: February 09, 2021, 08:23:41 AM »
Super spreader ?  I cannot find anything that supports that.  The CDC's analysis was able to come up with 86 cases from an attendance of approximately 460,000.

"Fifty-one primary event-associated cases were identified, and 35 secondary or tertiary cases occurred among household, social, and workplace contacts, for a total of 86 cases"


Your quote of 86 is incomplete--that was the number of cases spread directly to the state of Minnesota afterward. That's Minnesota alone, not including other states.
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Re: MGNOC National Rally in NH 2021
« Reply #152 on: February 09, 2021, 08:44:58 AM »
I read the CDC's analysis.  Tell me how is was a "super-spreader" event ?

While I don’t think this is the post to keep this particular discussion going, I’m easily baited. So...

Prefacing first that the term itself is not strictly defined. BUT... the event caused 86 cases in one state alone. To my knowledge, the CDC didn’t report on any other states following the rally. It doesn’t necessarily matter how many were in attendance at the rally versus how many of them became infected. What matters is how many of those who became infected walked away and likely spread a VERY COMMUNICABLE virus onto others. One state is on record for 86 cases. Many more people came from other states, so I reckon it’s safe to say that quite a few of these folks took the virus back home to others, and from there...

The current picture shows clearly that it’s not hard to spread.

For the sake of the post, if anybody wants to debate more about my claim, I invite them to PM me personally.
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Re: MGNOC National Rally in NH 2021
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Re: MGNOC National Rally in NH 2021
« Reply #154 on: February 09, 2021, 01:05:19 PM »
VT has administered 90,000 doses of -.  The population of the state is 600,000.  NH has given 166,000 doses and the population is 1.4 million.  They’ve been vaccinating a little over 6 weeks.  By the time the rally rolls around a significant percentage of residents here will have been vaccinated.  Probably 2/3rds to 3/4.

Aside from the stupid hippy anti-vaxxers, I think New England will have a very high percentage of people who opt for being vaccinated so it’ll probably be as safe here as anywhere in the country....if you’re going to be around people. 

As far as the governor cancelling events, if you book a room at a B&B and the rally is cancelled your room is not.  No one could stop you from going for a ride with your friends....who also happened to travel to the area and are staying in motels, inns or B&B’s.  Having said that, unless there’s an enormous outbreak there’s no way Sununu will close down the state again.  There’s no appetite for it politically or financially.  None.  Book a campsite and go to the rally if you’ve been vaccinated and want to attend. 

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Re: MGNOC National Rally in NH 2021
« Reply #155 on: February 09, 2021, 02:44:06 PM »
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Re: MGNOC National Rally in NH 2021
« Reply #156 on: February 09, 2021, 03:09:28 PM »
Anyone want to suggest a good route from Saint Louis, Missouri ?

I have no clue about traffic out "that way".  We never get north of West Virginia.

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Re: MGNOC National Rally in NH 2021
« Reply #157 on: February 09, 2021, 04:01:33 PM »
Randy said that he's planning on about 500 attendees.  Historically that's right for the MGNOC National Rally if in IA or KS.  East of the Rockies and West of the Appalachian Mountain range.  For this rally with another variable...- 19.  Most will come from the eastern states, SE to NE.  Some will come from the West Coast.  The number will be near 400.  Second largest event has been the WI state rally with the beer truck and brats at Camp Joy.  300-350 attendees.  I always miss that for some reason.   :embarrassed:
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Re: MGNOC National Rally in NH 2021
« Reply #158 on: February 09, 2021, 04:14:21 PM »
Anyone want to suggest a good route from Saint Louis, Missouri ?

I have no clue about traffic out "that way".  We never get north of West Virginia.

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Re: MGNOC National Rally in NH 2021
« Reply #159 on: February 09, 2021, 04:19:24 PM »
Anyone want to suggest a good route from Saint Louis, Missouri ?

I have no clue about traffic out "that way".  We never get north of West Virginia.

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The farther away from NYC aera the better...  Pretty much anywhere through NY more then a hour from there your good..  SOme roads are better then others... but no real bad traffic. Not sure about PA, but ive not had major issues heading up 81 from points south..
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Re: MGNOC National Rally in NH 2021
« Reply #160 on: February 09, 2021, 04:20:26 PM »
Have to agree and I'm in Hawaii.  I95 goes through a lot of major population centers. Go north west of the Appalachias.  Then in N. OH/PA make a right and head east.     
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Re: MGNOC National Rally in NH 2021
« Reply #161 on: February 09, 2021, 06:00:49 PM »
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There isn't any..
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Re: MGNOC National Rally in NH 2021
« Reply #162 on: February 09, 2021, 09:59:07 PM »
At our Guzzi breakfast Saturday, 7 of 8 of the over 65 crowd had been, or had an appointment to be, vaccinated.#8 doesn’t want one.
The other 5 of us are too young.
WA state is about 10% vaccinated, but the at-risk group is about 50% vaccinated. Positive cases may not go down much, but deaths certainly will.
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Re: MGNOC National Rally in NH 2021
« Reply #163 on: February 10, 2021, 04:49:51 AM »
Anyone want to suggest a good route from Saint Louis, Missouri ?

I have no clue about traffic out "that way".  We never get north of West Virginia.

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As others have said, you don’t have a lot of options for a “good” route.  Yours is more of a grin and bear it, two day slog unless you want to add a day and wander around upstate NY.  70, 71 and then 90 is the quickest.  Think of it as ripping off a bandaid. 

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Re: MGNOC National Rally in NH 2021
« Reply #164 on: February 10, 2021, 09:32:10 AM »
In NY you can take 20 across to 63 in Amsterdam.  take that to 9N and then 63 again in VT.  You'll be about 1/2 hour north of Bennington, VT.
Take 9E to Keene.

If coming into NY from the south take 17E to 30N and then 9N and 63E.  90E is really boring but it will get you there-you'll still need to take a few secondary roads (easy to see on the map) to get into VT and across to NH-be sure 9E is in there.  The ride over Hogback Mt is worth it and drops you right into Keene.
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Re: MGNOC National Rally in NH 2021
« Reply #165 on: February 10, 2021, 10:53:14 AM »
Anyone want to suggest a good route from Saint Louis, Missouri ?

I have no clue about traffic out "that way".  We never get north of West Virginia.

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Superslab or secondary roads?  Either way, no reason to go anywhere near the I95 Corridor to get to Keene.  I've been on 50 from DC to ST Louis, it has some good, very good, and bad spots.  You could take 50 West all the way into West Virginia, then start North East on 219 and other state highways.
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Re: MGNOC National Rally in NH 2021
« Reply #166 on: February 10, 2021, 11:10:50 AM »
Anyone want to suggest a good route from Saint Louis, Missouri?

Not sure about your definition of ‘good.’

If you’re looking for the quickest route that won’t leave you in freeway / toll hell like I-95, I tend to make my way toward 84, hopping on around Scranton or Easton area. 84 has no tolls, and passes just north of NYC. You could hop onto Rt 15 in PA, then work your way east either in northern PA or NY.

If you prefer a more scenic route I’m a fan of going north enough to go through the Green Mountains. The mountain towns of Vermont shouldn’t be missed if you have the time. Rt 30 around the southwestern portion of PA climbs and rolls through the mountains nicely. Not sure about other roads west of the Appalachians, though.

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Re: MGNOC National Rally in NH 2021
« Reply #167 on: February 10, 2021, 11:28:23 AM »
30 is nice.
If you come up 219 you'll run into 17/86E.
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Re: MGNOC National Rally in NH 2021
« Reply #168 on: February 10, 2021, 08:08:37 PM »
I would burn it East on I-64 to Lexington KY then go NNE thru Ohio.
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Re: MGNOC National Rally in NH 2021
« Reply #169 on: February 11, 2021, 07:10:36 AM »
Not sure about your definition of ‘good.’

If you’re looking for the quickest route that won’t leave you in freeway / toll hell like I-95, I tend to make my way toward 84, hopping on around Scranton or Easton area. 84 has no tolls, and passes just north of NYC. You could hop onto Rt 15 in PA, then work your way east either in northern PA or NY.

If you prefer a more scenic route I’m a fan of going north enough to go through the Green Mountains. The mountain towns of Vermont shouldn’t be missed if you have the time. Rt 30 around the southwestern portion of PA climbs and rolls through the mountains nicely. Not sure about other roads west of the Appalachians, though.

Frankly 84 has some amazing views through the eastern part of PA, into NY!!  Deep valleys, and hills..  its really a nice ride for a highway. Also I87 north from where 84 hits Newburg NY is a pretty nice easy ride. Find your route of choice off of 87. Your within a few min of any number of amazing motorcycle roads!! 
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Re: MGNOC National Rally in NH 2021
« Reply #170 on: February 11, 2021, 08:53:15 AM »
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Re: MGNOC National Rally in NH 2021
« Reply #171 on: February 11, 2021, 12:36:17 PM »
I just updated my room at the Tartan Fox B&B to include Thursday night. The owner said there are at least 3 rally participants staying that weekend including me.
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Re: MGNOC National Rally in NH 2021
« Reply #172 on: February 11, 2021, 12:39:46 PM »
Cool :thumb: 
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Re: MGNOC National Rally in NH 2021
« Reply #173 on: February 11, 2021, 02:31:48 PM »
Super spreader concerns?  Nah..........

All I'm gonna say is you will find me wearing this when groups gather around the campfires.......... .




Rumor has it, some being inspired by the Superbowl last week will be wearing this.



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Re: MGNOC National Rally in NH 2021
« Reply #174 on: February 11, 2021, 03:05:55 PM »
 :thumb: That's funny. :grin:
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Re: MGNOC National Rally in NH 2021
« Reply #175 on: February 12, 2021, 06:02:09 AM »
I just updated my room at the Tartan Fox B&B to include Thursday night. The owner said there are at least 3 rally participants staying that weekend including me.

 Including you I know that KingofFleece is also staying there.

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Re: MGNOC National Rally in NH 2021
« Reply #176 on: February 12, 2021, 10:21:48 PM »
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Re: MGNOC National Rally in NH 2021
« Reply #177 on: February 13, 2021, 06:51:11 AM »
I'll call Randy today and ask him to post some routes for y'all coming from the west. He would be a good source of travel info as he has made the ride from Keene west many, many times.

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Re: MGNOC National Rally in NH 2021
« Reply #178 on: February 13, 2021, 07:13:56 AM »
I did the MapQuest thing to find out their recommended route from the Indy area.  It was I-70 to Columbus, OH, I-71 to Cleveland, from there I-90 to Albany, NY.  After Albany, it was two-lanes across VT and NH to Keene.  An option to I-90, after Erie, PA, was I-86 and I-88 to Albany.  About 900 miles either way.  Ride safe.
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Re: MGNOC National Rally in NH 2021
« Reply #179 on: February 13, 2021, 12:34:35 PM »
Anyone want to suggest a good route from Saint Louis, Missouri ?



If I-84 East is part of your route, then the following may be of some help:

I-84 to Newburgh-Beacon Bridge over the Hudson river.
After approx. 15 miles (after the bridge), take the Taconic Parkway North
Taconic North to Rt 295 (sign-last exit before toll)       
RT295 East to Rt22 North                                                       
Rt 22 North to Rt 7(NY) East                                                 
Rt7 (becomes 9) East to Keene                                             
At Keene RT 9 turns North, you go straight onto Rt12 (sign)
Rt 12 South to Fair Grounds (on right) 

Part of the above was suggested by Harry on the NJ forum   

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