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Re: Anyone seen this new retro HD?!?
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2021, 10:44:42 AM »
ELVIS!  CLAMBAKE!!

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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2021, 10:48:38 AM »
only $30k.
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Re: Anyone seen this new retro HD?!?
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2021, 10:59:30 AM »
LOVE IT!!!

Coming from a 69 FLH owner and lover, my hat's off to this a great project!  My 69 is black on black, but I have always liked the 69 Sparkling Blue and black combo . 



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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2021, 11:13:34 AM »
Looks comfortable. Nice seat. It's good to see Harley getting away from the Willy G low seat uncomfortable legs way out in front position. Some would describe it in another manner but this is a family site.
 It looks like a police model with a nice seat and retro style bags. Still, it looks good. The add hinted at more models to follow.

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« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2021, 11:16:43 AM »
Looks GREAT to me!

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« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2021, 11:29:04 AM »
Oh I like it!!!  I tend to like the more classic styled HD's.. 
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Re: Anyone seen this new retro HD?!?
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2021, 11:31:18 AM »
With that later frame with triangular battery/oil tank cover under the seat, it looks more like a rehash of my 1990 Evo Eletraglide Classic than my unrestored blue & white 1974 FLH, which is what they called an Electraglide after they quit calling them Electraglide a year or two before.   









To me, that's a huge styling clue difference between an old bike and a new bike that it easy to spot from a mile away, like comparing a V7 Classic or Racer to a real V7 Sport or 850 Lemans with a Tonti frame..
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« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2021, 11:35:30 AM »

To me, that's a huge styling clue difference between an old bike and a new bike that it easy to spot from a mile away, like comparing a V7 Classic or Racer to a real V7 Sport or 850 Lemans with a Tonti frame..

Agree with all, but I still give Brad Richards and his styling team an A+ for coming up with this.  They do have to work within the confines of the current model. 

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« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2021, 11:43:54 AM »
Harley's, like Guzzi's, can be fitted with many parts to change the looks. So for $4000 I can make my 2002 ElectraGlide look like that.

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« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2021, 11:51:18 AM »
^^^^^ this is my point.  Right now, Evo baggers like my 90 are way less than $30k.  It's a nice looking bike, just not that different than a previous revamp of the name decades ago.
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« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2021, 11:58:59 AM »
I love it. Everything but the price.



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« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2021, 12:01:24 PM »
Id buy one in a skinny minute!




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Re: Anyone seen this new retro HD?!?
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2021, 12:23:24 PM »
It's probably the best looking modern Harley cruiser that I've seen... just wish that hunkin' metallic dash wasn't stuck onto the tank, breaking up the basic aesthetics.
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« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2021, 12:53:27 PM »
Well then I don't get your point. I loved my EVO RK, but the current M8 motor, 6-spd, linked Brembo brakes through the ABS or advanced RDRS (ABS, Traction Control etc) system, with stiffer chassis, better suspension, longer lasting dual compound rubber etc is miles and miles ahead of an old EVO.

You don't argue that the new product isn't worth the price because you can have an antique for less that is half as capable JUST because it looks similar.

I'm not questioning that these modern bikes are not light years away from and far more user friendly than the old real versions.  But if the new machines are superior in every way, why do they need a name and look recycled from apparently inferior models of the past to make them relevant, marketable or profitable?

If all that matters is superficially looking similar while proclaiming you're riding an Electraglide  or an Iron bike (that's all aluminum)  or a 48 (that isn't a 1948 or a 48 anything) to whomever will listen without actually having to ride a real one, I guess it's all moot.   Some/many people don't want to deal with old bikes, but apparently don't mind other people thinking they do.  That's why this old stuff keeps getting rehashed.   

Fwiw, if this bike was called an Electraglide Classic, it would be far more palatable.
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« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2021, 02:08:16 PM »
It's probably the best looking modern Harley cruiser that I've seen... just wish that hunkin' metallic dash wasn't stuck onto the tank, breaking up the basic aesthetics.

I too, think it's quite handsome as well! :thumb: :cool: :wink:  It even has a CHAIN, not a belt! :rolleyes: :shocked:
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« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2021, 02:19:15 PM »
Sorry, but the below is the best lookin HD ever made...  Period

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« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2021, 03:06:27 PM »
I guess where we depart ways is in whether or not we think this or a V7 is trying to pretend to be something it is not.

This isn't a fake non-functional kickstarter bolted to the case of an electric start motor. This is a modem, functional, capable bike with styling cures based on a classic. That doesn't mean it's pretending anything, it's imitating form/beauty, but it's true to form and self.

It's not an EVO with fake Panhead styled rocker boxes.

There is something aesthetically pleasing about the natural, flowing classic lines of some motorcycles over the more angular, unnatural, insectoid shapes that dominate too many modern designs.

Personally I feel this way about a number of things from houses to cars and trucks too. The neo-Beetles, the Mini Coopers, hell the last mustangs found their way back to classic lines over the soap bars that dominated the automotive landscape for too long. Wranglers fall into this category, hell I even think our new Defender got it right by taking cues from the past.

Even our Monster, one generation after the full trellis was abandoned is still more or less a bike with classic lines, even if it's the arguably the most modern looking machine in the garage (maybe more so than the Defender).
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Re: Anyone seen this new retro HD?!?
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2021, 03:47:30 PM »
It sure looks better than some of the weird stuff HD has been coming up with lately, That Drag bike whatever its called comes to mind, and the Rockers, looked incredibly weird to me. Any time HD has tried to look "modern" they messed up, IMHO. They need to stick to the traditional look like this new bike. I think this one will sell well.
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« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2021, 04:48:09 PM »
If I had an extra $30,000 Dollars laying around that I didnt know what to do with Id buy one in a minuet, I love the old school look , but Im partial to Fl shovels !!
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« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2021, 05:09:02 PM »
I think it is a very cool motorcycle, and I would be proud to own it.

Although, personally I have a lot of other items higher on my wish list before I would purchase that bike.

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I am going to try my neighbors Yamaha Tenere 700 so that might jump on the list.   :laugh:

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« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2021, 06:10:38 PM »
I think it is a very cool motorcycle, and I would be proud to own it.

Although, personally I have a lot of other items higher on my wish list before I would purchase that bike.

Toy Hauler / Camper
Miata RF or 370Z Nismo
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HD Pan America


I am going to try my neighbors Yamaha Tenere 700 so that might jump on the list.   :laugh:
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« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2021, 06:38:51 PM »
On another HD thought, I was in Scottsdale HD today.  They said they would be getting their Pan Americas in about 2 weeks.  There appeared to be no animosity toward it and the salesman said he was excited to ride it.  I saw that AadvRider picked it as the adv bike they would buy.  Even over the BMW GS.

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Re: Anyone seen this new retro HD?!?
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2021, 07:11:47 PM »
Its a fine looking motorcycle but all of the big twin Harleys of the last 30 years look retro to me, not that there is a lot of surface to work with on any motorcycle but HDs seem to stay within a narrow range of what their big cruisers should look like, nothing wrong with it if that particular image is ones idea of beauty. What do I know? I think the GUZZI bacon slicers of the 30s and early post war period are gorgeous but many see them as unattractive and primitive.
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« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2021, 07:19:16 PM »
Sorry, but the below is the bet lookin HD ever made...  Period



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« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2021, 07:30:30 PM »
Im not much of a Harley fan but that is gorgeous. If I were rich Id have it.
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« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2021, 07:36:46 PM »
What? No AMF sticker??? Fail!

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« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2021, 07:36:59 PM »
Aren't all Harleys by definition, retro? :evil:

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« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2021, 07:43:51 PM »
Sorry, but the below is the bet lookin HD ever made...  Period



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« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2021, 07:48:59 PM »
I wouldn't kick it out of my garage.
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