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Re: Anyone seen this new retro HD?!?
« Reply #30 on: April 27, 2021, 08:20:33 PM »
I wouldn't kick it out of my garage.
At 900 lbs, you couldn't if you wanted to!  :laugh:

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Re: Anyone seen this new retro HD?!?
« Reply #31 on: April 27, 2021, 08:46:39 PM »
I like it, first H-D in awhile that I've said that.  At this stage of my life I can afford to buy one.  But....and a big but....WEIGHT, IN RUNNING ORDER 862 lb.
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Re: Anyone seen this new retro HD?!?
« Reply #32 on: April 27, 2021, 10:01:41 PM »
it's a Harley with a paint job, banana seat and a $30k price.

How many used Glides could be done for a paint job and a seat for < $10K?   Jus' sayin'.  I'm surprised that they haven't already sold that paint scheme. 

OTOH, it looks pretty cool.  I hope they have the outfit with the Captain's hat and striped pants.   :wink:
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Re: Anyone seen this new retro HD?!?
« Reply #33 on: April 27, 2021, 11:01:14 PM »
I think it's gorgeous.

Yes it's very similar to a police model and that's ironic since they can sell for as little as half the asking on this Revival model.

Personally I don't want the spoke wheels and I think they used fixed instead of floating calipers. I also don't like the bag rails.

But those are nit picks.

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Re: Anyone seen this new retro HD?!?
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Re: Anyone seen this new retro HD?!?
« Reply #34 on: April 28, 2021, 12:24:06 AM »
I too, think it's quite handsome as well! :thumb: :cool: :wink:  It even has a CHAIN, not a belt! :rolleyes: :shocked:

Are you talking about the Revival?

Where do you see chain?

All I see is that it is a chain PRIMARY drive (between the engine and transmission).

I don't see any indication that it has a chain FINAL drive.
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Re: Anyone seen this new retro HD?!?
« Reply #35 on: April 28, 2021, 02:57:34 AM »
People will line up to buy it i'm sure because it is a cool looking bike and is a Harley Davidson.  Good for them.  I dont particularly care for it but Im more into weird bikes so im not a good judge. 
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Re: Anyone seen this new retro HD?!?
« Reply #36 on: April 28, 2021, 03:40:37 AM »
I think it is a very cool motorcycle, and I would be proud to own it.

Although, personally I have a lot of other items higher on my wish list before I would purchase that bike.

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I am going to try my neighbors Yamaha Tenere 700 so that might jump on the list.   :laugh:

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Re: Anyone seen this new retro HD?!?
« Reply #37 on: April 28, 2021, 06:17:33 AM »
Aren't all Harleys by definition, retro? :evil:

You haven't  looked lately,  or have a broad definition  of retro. 
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« Reply #38 on: April 28, 2021, 07:22:08 AM »
Whether one likes the brand on not, there is a reason HD has 30% of the market in the US making it the number ONE selling motorcycle in the US and the reason is rather simple, they listen to their buyers and supporters. Iíve said for some time now that I wish they would bring back the ole suicide shifted bikes of old. Well the just about made it that far back:)

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« Reply #39 on: April 28, 2021, 08:00:24 AM »
Why in the world are these things still so damn heavy?
And I ain't buying that it's for strength nor the perception of strength, not anymore (except for the "old schoolers" turning a blind eye to manufacturing material advancements). Harley has the tech and needs to use it, but doesn't.
Why ??
The Goldwing drops 100lbs and finds a second life.
Who IS the target purchaser for this bike and how many more could be sold if was >100lbs lighter?
This thing is beautiful ..and a pig.

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Re: Anyone seen this new retro HD?!?
« Reply #40 on: April 28, 2021, 08:25:58 AM »
Are you talking about the Revival?

Where do you see chain?

All I see is that it is a chain PRIMARY drive (between the engine and transmission).

I don't see any indication that it has a chain FINAL drive.

My mistake Kev m...I believe you are correct...my error..... :rolleyes: :shocked:
Why would they put a chain on this bike when belts have been so successful? :wink:
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Re: Anyone seen this new retro HD?!?
« Reply #41 on: April 28, 2021, 09:21:19 AM »
Whether one likes the brand on not, there is a reason HD has 30% of the market in the US making it the number ONE selling motorcycle in the US and the reason is rather simple, they listen to their buyers and supporters. Iíve said for some time now that I wish they would bring back the ole suicide shifted bikes of old. Well the just about made it that far back:)

When it comes to transportation North America is a very large market with a very narrow focus.

80% of buyers can't / won't get past this list much...
Work Commuter:  Large 4 door pickup truck
Sports Car:  Mustang
Motor Bike: HD

Regardless of other makes/models/designs that may be better suited/priced or value...

(im not bashing any of the above, just noting an observation)
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Re: Anyone seen this new retro HD?!?
« Reply #42 on: April 28, 2021, 09:31:47 AM »
 Weight doesn't matter when a bike almost never leaves the garage .

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Re: Anyone seen this new retro HD?!?
« Reply #43 on: April 28, 2021, 10:02:03 AM »
Weight doesn't matter when a bike almost never leaves the garage .

 Dusty
Lol, yep and weight doesnít matter until it gets off balance. Whether pushing,stopping or sitting still👍
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Re: Anyone seen this new retro HD?!?
« Reply #44 on: April 28, 2021, 10:04:21 AM »
I like it, the Harley that is. Too bad they are so costly and heavy to move around. The old one's were not as heavy although they did not have as much power.
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Re: Anyone seen this new retro HD?!?
« Reply #45 on: April 28, 2021, 10:20:16 AM »
I think it looks great  :thumb:
I bet they sell every one they make  :smiley:
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« Reply #46 on: April 28, 2021, 02:12:09 PM »
I think it looks great  :thumb:
I bet they sell every one they make  :smiley:

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Re: Anyone seen this new retro HD?!?
« Reply #47 on: April 28, 2021, 03:39:32 PM »
https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/en/motorcycles/electra-glide-revival.html?source_cd=Email_0426_AprNLInsider&camp_id=16&CL_ID=12563067752&ext_tracking=992e9d7f359ef1675c94f4e2124b542ebd5dc300aa5e8b6bf2972ee491928a33

Modern version of the classic 1969 Electra Glide - only $29,199!!! :rolleyes: :shocked: :rolleyes: :shocked:






What a beautiful motorcycle. Good for H-D for following through with this. I suspect there are a lot more 'Revival' bikes coming from them as well. No reason not to do the same with the modern and updated Panhead, Knucklehead and Shovelhead top end engine configurations. H-D are masters at modernizing the internals while maintaining their classic designs on the exterior.

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Re: Anyone seen this new retro HD?!?
« Reply #48 on: April 28, 2021, 04:21:45 PM »
Only 30K? Thatís a bargain. Elvisís 1976 Electraglide sold for 800k at auction  :grin:




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Re: Anyone seen this new retro HD?!?
« Reply #49 on: April 28, 2021, 04:52:32 PM »
I have not seen it yet but I want to.  It looks really nice and I am happy to hear that HD is going to continue with their new Icon revival series of classics with a release of 1-2 models each year.  This Electraglide revival is special for sure.  At 68, too heavy for me now but I look forward to seeing it.

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« Reply #50 on: April 28, 2021, 05:03:58 PM »
Very nice looking motorcycle!  Very cool color and the design looks to be very functional.  Expensive but it is in the range of other MC's on the market today.  Priced BMW's lately?  You got to pay to play boys and girls...
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« Reply #51 on: April 28, 2021, 06:30:04 PM »
Electra Glide in Blue..  :smiley:
Never has been my thing and still isn't.. but..
I *do* like retro stuff.. motorcycles, airplanes, wimmens.. :grin: :boozing:
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Re: Anyone seen this new retro HD?!?
« Reply #52 on: April 28, 2021, 06:41:55 PM »
Why in the world are these things still so damn heavy?
And I ain't buying that it's for strength nor the perception of strength, not anymore (except for the "old schoolers" turning a blind eye to manufacturing material advancements). Harley has the tech and needs to use it, but doesn't.
Why ??
The Goldwing drops 100lbs and finds a second life.
Who IS the target purchaser for this bike and how many more could be sold if was >100lbs lighter?
This thing is beautiful ..and a pig.

A Google search tells me that a 2018 Honda Goldwing Tour ranges between 833 and 842 lbs depending on model.  The 2017 is 911 and 919 lbs. 

Part of the weight reduction is less fuel.  The rest is because the new Goldwing is just that, an entirely new motorcycle from the ground up.  Frame, engine, suspension, plastics, all new.  It is also

I also think Honda was going for a replacement to both the ST1300 and the 1800 Goldwing with this bike. 
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Re: Anyone seen this new retro HD?!?
« Reply #53 on: April 28, 2021, 06:46:08 PM »
Why in the world are these things still so damn heavy?
And I ain't buying that it's for strength nor the perception of strength, not anymore (except for the "old schoolers" turning a blind eye to manufacturing material advancements). Harley has the tech and needs to use it, but doesn't.
Why ??
The Goldwing drops 100lbs and finds a second life.
Who IS the target purchaser for this bike and how many more could be sold if was >100lbs lighter?
This thing is beautiful ..and a pig.

Fwiw this chassis represents a solid 30-40% of Harley annual sales, meaning 60-80k (and until recently 100k+) units per year.

Yeah the wing has managed to lose some pounds, but please it's still ~800#, in what world does it really matter that it's "lighter" then this at that point?!?

Low center of gravity makes this easy to ride, changing to an aluminum frame or whatnot likely wouldn't return an ROI.

I wouldn't mind then being a little more svelte, but the vast majority who ride this category don't care.
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Re: Anyone seen this new retro HD?!?
« Reply #54 on: April 29, 2021, 08:07:51 AM »
Nice video of the Revival FLH.  No words, just walk around video.

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« Reply #55 on: April 29, 2021, 09:16:34 AM »
We'll have to wait and see if 800~900+ lbs bikes are still part of a sales equation when some manufacturer wakes up and figures out they don't NEED to be. More importantly, when the riding public gets a taste of it.
When did it become acceptable to NOT be able to pick up a dropped bike?
Or overly nervous when pulling the bike out of the garage?
Justify the weight anyway you like, but a reckoning is coming.
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« Reply #56 on: April 29, 2021, 10:03:29 AM »
 So Kevm , it sounds like you believe the marketing nonsense from the 1950's , the concept of "road hugging weight"  :evil:

 I here about "low center of gravity" or about how weight disappears when the bike gets rolling . Well , my 67 year old self can't tell where the weight is located when trying to push 900 LBs of motorbike around the garage . As for the weight disappearing , yeah , going in a straight line is fine on a 900 LB motorbike , or even in gentle curves , but I have witnesses who can testify that on a very twisty road riding a 400 LB worn out /5 I had no trouble hanging with 30 year newer bikes with good riders on board , why , because 400 LBS .

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« Reply #57 on: April 29, 2021, 10:27:27 AM »
I ride a 2010 GoldWing, a 2013 Stelvio and an old CB 750 Chopper.  I am 64 years young.  I have picked up the goldwing (Using the walking backwards, three contact point method) and the Stelvio.  The chopper Ive never put on its side.......yet! 

Anyways, i feel the weight of the Wing and Stelvio, of course!  Next bike will be lighter.  If I rode fast in the twisties I would definitely get a lighter bike ASAP, but I dont, so I wont.  Im old and slow......but Im still alive!!!  Good day to all! 
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« Reply #58 on: April 29, 2021, 10:50:15 AM »
 Actually I like the new glide , or like to look at it anyway . It is evocative of the HD's from youth , styling wise much more similar to a 1960 panhead than the chopperesque models . However , I do wonder if the extreme weight of some modern bikes is why they tend to remain in the garage . Was in a garage on Monday evening that housed a 2018 Electraglide of some sort . It was really quite lovely in its two tone shiny paint , not a bug splatter one .
When asked how many miles it had been ridden the answer was 1,500 miles , so about 500 miles per year . Probably not because it doesn't work fairly well on the open road , but because riding it from where it is stored to the highway required negotiating some really rough roads full of potholes with some loose gravel spread about for good measure .

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« Reply #59 on: April 29, 2021, 11:33:12 AM »
The 3 dropped bikes (1 Indian, 2 Hogs) I've witnessed ended in tears.
Slow turn in gravel, bike and two passengers in their 60's go down.
Tweaked knee. (Unable to perform like your young ladies in the vids).
The gravel aggravates situation with little traction but 3 of us right the bike for them. Totally screwed if nowone had been around..Their trip is over.
My Indian riding friend has behemoth tip over trapping and injuring left foot. A bystander and myself right the bike. Ride over.
Most healthy guys in their 60's with good knees and back (show of hands, certainly not going to be me) might perform your video maneuver once.
..Get it wrong, and they've got bigger problems to worry about.
The Japanese sportbike reckoning came with the mid 80's Gixxer's weight undercutting other 4cyl competitors.
The reckoning IS coming for 800~900lbs bikes bruisers.
If Harley doesn't see this I wouldn't bet against Polaris driving weights down if it means a sales advantage.

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