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I assumed the breva was identical to the Norge as far as ergonomics but looking at some pics of the breva it looks like the breva has a more upright body position. I thought a Norge was just a breva with extra Tupperware. Anybody ever ridden both to compare
I see you're relatively new to WG. Welcome! In case you haven't encountered the 1200 Sport, here's one. I rode this bike for 10 years until a younger rider purchased this lovely Guzzi from me. What you see in the video is a 2008 1200 Sport (only year in the USA) with Aprilia Mana handlebars, Hepco Becker pannier mounts and hard bags. The exhaust note is stock. Wonderful bike, IMO.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6_9hy8DCacBob
Only the Breva Sport 1200 had the bars. That was the ergo difference to which I was referring earlier.
Just to be clear, the Breva 1100 doesn't have a handlebar, it has the same individual risers as the Norge.Only the Breva Sport 1200 had the bars. That was the ergo difference to which I was referring earlier.
Interesting. I've actually never seen a Breva 1100 only the 1200 sport and the baby Breva. Somehow I knew you'd be along to bring some point of clarification :-)
The 1200 Sport original bars were also horrible. I replaced mine with Renthal Fatbar or Aprilia Mana bars.If anyone wants an original, I have three sets, each are available for a beer.
All powered by the last of the indestructible pushrod 2v per cylinder 90 degree v twins. With a 6 speed tranny smooth as glass.
Hmmm, someone better let the smallblock owners know they're riding time bombs then...
Kev, let me amend my previous post.All powered by the last of the indestructible Big Block pushrod 2v per cylinder 90 degree v twins. With a 6 speed tranny smooth as glass.
Kev - I think a lot of the heat issue with the B11 was the location of the cat converter. On the S12, the cat was (I believe) located in the slip on muffler, so the heat was behind the rider.Bob
Kev, everything is relative, I guess. Maybe the 1200 Sport was warm, but coming from the world of the original BMW K100RS bikes, no other bikes before or since put out the heat like they did! "Please, please ....... change green before the thermostatically-controlled fan kicks on!!"Bob
[NOTE: I did learn recently (to my amazement) from N.J. Nick that one can remove much of the "upper lowers" in one fell swoop instead of undoing the bazillion unreachable fasteners buried inside; thanks, Nick. Tell me more!
That's it Kev, it was either you, that particular bike, or a combo. I still have my B1100 without a cat, and I didn't notice much difference in heat output after I took off the colostomy bag, I expected too, but didn't.That said, the bike does put out substantial heat. When riding slowly I can feel the heat pouring across my chins, to the point of being quite uncomfortable! But under speed, it's either not noticeable, or greatly diminished. But the point is, the heat, for me, can only really be noticed on my chins, it doesn't find its way up to my upper leg or nether regions! My guess, is there was something slightly off with your bike, as I remember you speaking a good deal about how dam hot yours would get. <shrug>
Happy to do that as soon as kev subs a smaller pic of his (nice-looking) gray B11 so it doesn't flood the screen and run text into the margins.
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