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Title: V7 II idle problem
Post by: Bajadera on March 15, 2024, 01:33:36 PM
I have 2015 V7 II Special with only 8000km that has cold idle problem
The cold engine starts fine but idle revs are very uneven going up and down ...
Engine doesn't want to pick up revs and sometimes dies
It starts immediately and then runs fine
When the engine get normal working temperature it runs pretty well
The spark plugs are completely new
What could be the problem?
Where to start?
Thank you
Title: Re: V7 II idle problem
Post by: Dirk_S on March 15, 2024, 01:39:41 PM
What condition is your air filter? Have any moisture clogging it?
Title: Re: V7 II idle problem
Post by: blu guzz on March 15, 2024, 01:50:07 PM
the plug caps are very delicate on that model, were you very careful when you removed and replaced them?  If they are damaged, they could cause an ignition problem.
Title: Re: V7 II idle problem
Post by: Bajadera on March 15, 2024, 01:51:37 PM
What condition is your air filter? Have any moisture clogging it?
Not a sign of any moisture...
It is dry like desert... :cool:
Title: Re: V7 II idle problem
Post by: Bajadera on March 15, 2024, 01:53:27 PM
the plug caps are very delicate on that model, were you very careful when you removed and replaced them?  If they are damaged, they could cause an ignition problem.
The caps looks OK to me
I didn't notice anything wrong with them...
Although...I will check them again tomorrow
Title: Re: V7 II idle problem
Post by: Vagrant on March 15, 2024, 03:30:34 PM
In the US there was an updated map for that bike.
Smartest thing to do is put on a Beetle map.
Title: Re: V7 II idle problem
Post by: sign216 on March 15, 2024, 04:20:12 PM
Generally, loose valve settings make for a better idle.  That might not be the answer, but it would help.

Refresh my memory, does this year have the fast idle lever for cold engines, that pushes the throttle open slightly? 
Title: Re: V7 II idle problem
Post by: Bajadera on March 15, 2024, 04:22:23 PM
Generally, loose valve settings make for a better idle.  That might not be the answer, but it would help.

Refresh my memory, does this year have the fast idle lever for cold engines, that pushes the throttle open slightly?
No
No fast idle lever...
Title: Re: V7 II idle problem
Post by: Tkelly on March 15, 2024, 04:38:37 PM
Our dealer installed the new map and it ran great,original map not good.
Title: Re: V7 II idle problem
Post by: mechanicsavant on March 15, 2024, 04:52:19 PM
I had similar issues with my 16 Mk. II . I believe it’s going into closed loop too soon . More miles help . As does a beetle map . I went in a different direction . As I’m not terribly computer skilled I went with adjustable O2 sensor “spoofers” from  AF1 racing & gutted the exhaust of the cat converters . That said the bike in only for off road use ( wink wink ). It runs much better & no cold start issues . AS usual Your results may vary!
Title: Re: V7 II idle problem
Post by: Dirk_S on March 15, 2024, 07:47:49 PM
I recently had a similar issue with idle—seems to start up fine, but then after a moment would be a bit erratic—a little up, a little down, and sometimes down low enough it shut off. After warming up it would be fine. The kicker—I have a beetle map. It’s only ever happened so far when it was pretty cold out. One time I found my air filter pretty wet due to some rainy days causing the seat to soak up and leak water down the front. I experienced the problem a few times, but it’s not constant, hence why I thought it might be moisture.

Maybe it’s in the fuel? How long has the fuel been in the tank? Is it fresh? Is there a vacuum that’s perhaps causing the fuel pump to not draw appropriately? Pop open the gas cap once and try running the bike after?
Title: Re: V7 II idle problem
Post by: GuzziOrDeath on March 15, 2024, 08:02:21 PM

Check for oil residue in the airbox. If oil gets into the MAP sensor or idle stepper ports, all kinds of weird things can happen.



Title: Re: V7 II idle problem
Post by: slowmover on March 15, 2024, 08:24:05 PM
Only 8000km on a 2015?
Title: Re: V7 II idle problem
Post by: Bajadera on March 16, 2024, 12:56:15 AM
Only 8000km on a 2015?
Yes
Only 8000km...
The previous owner just didn't ride it
The bike is like brand new from the shop
Title: Re: V7 II idle problem
Post by: Bajadera on March 16, 2024, 12:57:46 AM
Check for oil residue in the airbox. If oil gets into the MAP sensor or idle stepper ports, all kinds of weird things can happen.
I will check that for sure
Title: Re: V7 II idle problem
Post by: sign216 on March 16, 2024, 07:03:06 AM
No
No fast idle lever...

Gang, so Guzzi added an "electronic" fast idle when cold, like a modern car?

That's one less thing to do when starting, but I kind of like the manual approach.  Of course that's a slippery slope.  Soon, we'll go back to a manual ignition advance, etc.

Joe
Title: Re: V7 II idle problem
Post by: mechanicsavant on March 20, 2024, 07:23:29 AM
Yup , both my small blocks have the “fast idle”as part of the program . My V7/850 is way better than the MkII , no issues at all . The MkII is better once sorted also .
Title: Re: V7 II idle problem
Post by: kingoffleece on March 20, 2024, 09:04:08 AM
My 2015 started to do that.  Turned out the battery was on it's last legs.  A battery load test would help confirm or eliminate that issue.  If it's the OEM it may be at the end of it's service life.