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I think I have been bitten by V11 Le Mans bug..
« on: July 31, 2022, 10:50:48 AM »
Experts,

I thought I would ask here for guidance/tips/ideas etc..

I do not have much experience in selling, and I have only experience in local private buying.
I want to buy V11 Le Mans ( prefer local ), appreciate any tips/ideas etc..

Please help me sell my R1100RT and Zx12R ( or possibly Breva 750 ?) -- and help me buy a V11 Le Mans.

Basically I have three bikes currently, and want to have two bikes ( one of which has to be V11 Le Mans, which I have yet to find/buy )

I did put R1100RT for sale online, but did not get success so far.
And have found one/two out of state V11 Le Mans for sale, but it is difficult for me to find time/effort/not experienced in long distance purchase.

Will appreciate any help..Thanks.
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Re: I think I have been bitten by V11 Le Mans bug..
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2022, 07:18:03 PM »
Good place to look is here:

https://www.v11lemans.com/forums/
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Re: I think I have been bitten by V11 Le Mans bug..
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2022, 07:32:20 PM »
Your right! You need a V11.. patience, your in a good area for one to pop up for sale.
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Re: I think I have been bitten by V11 Le Mans bug..
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2022, 08:56:42 PM »
Hi MG750. Get thee to the V11lemans forum. There are some V11s for sale on the MGNOC classified, but they may be out of your geographical area. There is a nice V11 at Pro Italia Motorcycles in Glendale in SoCal that you can see if you look up their website. On the V11lemans forum there may be an upstanding gentleman in Oakland selling one, and a few more, but you will have to check that  site.
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Re: I think I have been bitten by V11 Le Mans bug..
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2022, 08:56:42 PM »

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Re: I think I have been bitten by V11 Le Mans bug..
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2022, 07:36:21 AM »
The Mighty Scura was my all time favorite bike. The V11 Sport is the last *real* Guzzi  :evil:  :smiley:  before Aprillia, Piaggio, etc. Sadly, I've aged out of it, and downsized.
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Re: I think I have been bitten by V11 Le Mans bug..
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2022, 08:02:44 AM »
I have a pal in Mesa Az with a Lemans Rosso Corsa that he is going to sell. PM if you are interested .
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Re: I think I have been bitten by V11 Le Mans bug..
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2022, 11:08:09 AM »

Please help me sell my R1100RT and Zx12R ( or possibly Breva 750 ?) -- and help me buy a V11 Le Mans.


Being curious, I did a search on CL for R1100RT, and I think I found your ad!  Blue one with 64K miles?

If so, a few thoughts:
- show some pictures with the bags on (I know in the text you mention they are included)  And top case?
- that price seems excellent!  Seems someone would quickly buy it for that price
- what is going on with the mirrors?  Have you looked at getting the normal "hand wind blocking" mirrors back on the bike?
- no pictures of the left side of the bike?
- maybe a fairly close up picture showing the right & left cylinder heads (that have zero crash or drop damage)?
- maybe mention the range ... like "will go between 225-250 miles per tank" ... figure a touring rider is your market to buy it

But overall, it looks great, great price, reasonable BMW mileage ... seems like should be an easy bike to sell.

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Re: I think I have been bitten by V11 Le Mans bug..
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2022, 02:14:29 PM »
So.....you like to ride with your neck bent all the way back?
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Re: I think I have been bitten by V11 Le Mans bug..
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2022, 02:41:43 PM »
I have a pal in Mesa Az with a Lemans Rosso Corsa that he is going to sell. PM if you are interested .

If you are going to buy any bike within that series I'd recommend the ones with the Ohlins suspension, I had the above and it was a very trouble free bike and handle quite well with that suspension. Keep on the look out for bubbling tanks, the Nero and Corsa have decals instead of paint which are probably near impossible to find if you need to fix a problem. Sorry I sold my Corsa, it is a pretty bike.



Mine had the bags and the Mistral titanium mufflers. Those mufflers sounded great but they easily dented by just looking at them.
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Re: I think I have been bitten by V11 Le Mans bug..
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2022, 03:44:40 PM »

I must totally agree with Blackcat.   

Yes, go with the Ohlins suspension, you will not be disappointed. 

Mistral titanium mufflers are great sounding, and you do need to be careful.

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Re: I think I have been bitten by V11 Le Mans bug..
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2022, 03:53:59 PM »
I'll pile on.  :smiley: I've had two V11 sports with Ohlins. They don't bring *that* much more money than the standard suspension bikes, and are better handlers.
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Re: I think I have been bitten by V11 Le Mans bug..
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2022, 04:01:34 PM »
One issue is the bikes with the ITI speedometers, the gears go south and there goes the odometer. Greg Field fixed mine and there may be an archived thread on WG discussing how to fix or you can go with an exterior driven odometer.
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Re: I think I have been bitten by V11 Le Mans bug..
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2022, 06:56:11 PM »
AND THEN there's the shift spring, learn how to pull the side door off the trans. Relays bouncing not making connection.
Lot's of fun new things to learn.
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Re: I think I have been bitten by V11 Le Mans bug..
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2022, 07:29:52 PM »
this one is available.. 


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Re: I think I have been bitten by V11 Le Mans bug..
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2022, 10:54:59 PM »
Mine is an ‘01red frame. Did not come with Ohlins. But I put an Ohlins shock off of a Scura on it, and put in some Race Tech fork springs. On a set of Michelin Road 5’s she’s a joy to ride, much better than before the shock and springs upgrade. And it’s a red frame with a bit different geometry than the later Ohlins bikes. I did add the missing frame to gearbox brace, so while it doesn’t have the extra bracing of the later black frame, there is some added structure than before. A very lively and responsive bike, but pleasant and stabile to ride. I took off the nasty leaking steering damper, and she’s solid as a rock riding at 95-100 mph. Which ever variation you end up you can sort it to satisfy your desires.
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Re: I think I have been bitten by V11 Le Mans bug..
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2022, 05:42:18 AM »
AND THEN there's the shift spring, learn how to pull the side door off the trans. Relays bouncing not making connection.
Lot's of fun new things to learn.

I/we redesigned the shift spring a few years ago. Scud on the V11S forum has them. As far as I know, none have broken since. Guzzi's engineering is normally solid, but Luigi must have been promoted to design on that project.  :smiley:
https://www.v11lemans.com/forums/index.php?/topic/20201-re-engineering-the-shift-spring/#comment-227256
The relay problem has been solved, too. Testing has shown that (depending on year) some work harder than others and need a "better" relay.
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Re: I think I have been bitten by V11 Le Mans bug..
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2022, 07:26:18 AM »
So.....you like to ride with your neck bent all the way back?

You got that right (lol)!  Mine has bar risers adjusted back & up to the max that cables & lines will allow. 



I'm good for 45minutes to an hour before I have to get off to give my neck & wrists a break and allow blood to flow back into my groin.  I suppose if I were 5'10"+ instead of 5'8"  it would be more tolerable.  Yeah, it's a reach for me from the seat to the bars.
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Re: I think I have been bitten by V11 Le Mans bug..
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2022, 07:47:58 AM »
I had 2” risers and it was better on my back for touring than my Bassa.



 I was pretty comfortable on both..The neck thing didn’t bother me. Oh, I’m 5’10”


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Re: I think I have been bitten by V11 Le Mans bug..
« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2022, 08:05:55 AM »
this one is available.. 



Pretty bike, how many miles and what are you asking for the bike?
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Re: I think I have been bitten by V11 Le Mans bug..
« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2022, 09:34:47 AM »
You got that right (lol)!  Mine has bar risers adjusted back & up to the max that cables & lines will allow. 



I'm good for 45minutes to an hour before I have to get off to give my neck & wrists a break and allow blood to flow back into my groin.  I suppose if I were 5'10"+ instead of 5'8"  it would be more tolerable.  Yeah, it's a reach for me from the seat to the bars.

I went through this when I was a young lad in my late 50/early 60s. I thought I was in pretty good shape, but decided to get a cruiser because of wrist and neck pain on "sporty" bikes. Hated it. A personal trainer said my core strength sucked, and he would get me back on sport bikes in 6 weeks. After nearly killing me  :evil: he did, and I haven't had an issue with that since. I've done long days on the Mighty Scura and Rosso.. no problem. Once you build those core muscles, you take the weight off your wrists and don't have to lean as much, which helps your neck.
The AeroLario has a pretty dedicated riding position, too..so far so good, and I'm 5'8" also.
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Re: I think I have been bitten by V11 Le Mans bug..
« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2022, 04:13:25 PM »
Hi Chuck,

Yeah back in '07 I spent all day on that bike and about 450 miles and was fine...so much so that I told zoom_zoom if he ever decides to part with it I'd be interested.  In 2015 he offered it up and I bought but didn't get it roadworthy until a year or so ago.

Anyway back to your point about building core muscle, I tend to agree somewhat.  My LMIV was torture at first but as time went on I got more used to it (core strength and all)and found it to be acceptable.  However, fast forward a decade plus and some age related stuff (muscle loss, arthritis, meds, etc.) it is definitely getting more physically challenging to ride my sport tourers for long periods of time vs. Eldo, Strom or Wing.  As long as I take a 5 minute break every hour or so on the Le Mans's I'll be fine especially since I'm not quite ready to part with them.  IDK, maybe this Winter when I have time on my hands I may try moving the V11's bars back further, re-route wiring & get longer hydraulics.

I imagine the Lario is set-up the same as the LMIV. 

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Re: I think I have been bitten by V11 Le Mans bug..
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2022, 09:46:37 AM »
Your right! You need a V11.. patience, your in a good area for one to pop up for sale.

Ok. I will try to be patient. ( as much as I can at least ).

Thanks.
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Re: I think I have been bitten by V11 Le Mans bug..
« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2022, 03:36:56 PM »
This little sound clip should help stoke the fire.  Poorly shot on the day I picked up my V11S.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kssRXMtW1mQ
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Re: I think I have been bitten by V11 Le Mans bug..
« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2022, 05:22:16 PM »
Here’s one of my clips where the sound isn’t all wind. Still not great. 10 years ago when GoPro was relatively new.

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Re: I think I have been bitten by V11 Le Mans bug..
« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2022, 11:46:05 PM »
Being curious, I did a search on CL for R1100RT, and I think I found your ad!  Blue one with 64K miles?

If so, a few thoughts:
- show some pictures with the bags on (I know in the text you mention they are included)  And top case?
- that price seems excellent!  Seems someone would quickly buy it for that price
- what is going on with the mirrors?  Have you looked at getting the normal "hand wind blocking" mirrors back on the bike?
- no pictures of the left side of the bike?
- maybe a fairly close up picture showing the right & left cylinder heads (that have zero crash or drop damage)?
- maybe mention the range ... like "will go between 225-250 miles per tank" ... figure a touring rider is your market to buy it

But overall, it looks great, great price, reasonable BMW mileage ... seems like should be an easy bike to sell.

- Mirrors got stolen last summer. The OEM are expensive, after market are cheaper. At the time I thought I would just do a hobby project, so I fashioned some lights DIY and installed at least for me to be able to drive. They are functional.
- I may have a potential buyer coming tomorrow, lets see how that goes..

Thanks.
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Re: I think I have been bitten by V11 Le Mans bug..
« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2022, 11:49:32 PM »
You got that right (lol)!  Mine has bar risers adjusted back & up to the max that cables & lines will allow. 



I'm good for 45minutes to an hour before I have to get off to give my neck & wrists a break and allow blood to flow back into my groin.  I suppose if I were 5'10"+ instead of 5'8"  it would be more tolerable.  Yeah, it's a reach for me from the seat to the bars.

I would want bar like yours. Eventually at least, if it does not come with bar raised at the time of purchase.
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Re: I think I have been bitten by V11 Le Mans bug..
« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2022, 08:51:13 AM »
I would want bar like yours. Eventually at least, if it does not come with bar raised at the time of purchase.

Yeah, don't let my complaining detour you in getting a V11 LeMans, I'm 70, have the usual old guy aches & pains but really enjoy riding that bike.  I don't see getting off every 45 minutes to one hour to stretch out as a big detraction or problem.  In the last couple of years I have begun participating in a structured BMW group ride on Wednesday mornings (I don't own a beemer by the way), the ride is typically 100-150 miles to the ride destination which is an ice cream or lunch venue.  We stop at a halfway point to hydrate, snack, potty, etc., the halfway point is about an hour to about an hour and a half into the ride.  If I ride my LeMans's, I look forward to the stop, if I'm on the Eldo, Wing or Wee it wouldn't matter whether we stop or not I can sit in those saddles all day.  Anyway, the bar risers on my LeMans really aid in my riding comfort level.  My bar risers:


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