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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: guzzi771 on July 19, 2021, 07:03:36 PM
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Sadly I traded in a 2016 MG Norge ,2017 MG Special and a Yamaha R3 . The RG is a great touring bike but I wish I had not done that deal . Any tips or advice on the RG would help , I still have my 2018 MG Carbon Shine so I'm down to 2 bikes .
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Why the regret?
And what kind of advice do you need? What issues or questions do you have about the Glide?
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Why the regret?
And what kind of advice do you need? What issues or questions do you have about the Glide?
Way too much money and giving up 3 great bike is my biggest regret. Any issues I should be aware of .
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Doesn't seem reGERTable to me <shurg> :thumb:
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Sadly I traded in a 2016 MG Norge ,2017 MG Special and a Yamaha R3 . The RG is a great touring bike but I wish I had not done that deal . Any tips or advice on the RG would help , I still have my 2018 MG Carbon Shine so I'm down to 2 bikes .
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Congrats. Come and join www.roadglide.org. A road glide specific forum with a lot of great guys, and they actually don't complain when I post Moto Guzzi photos and ride reports over there. :thumb:
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Thanks , I already joined !
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Way too much money and giving up 3 great bike is my biggest regret. Any issues I should be aware of .
Well having lived the past few years with two primary rides being an FLH and a Guzzi smallblock, I think that's a solid combo.
I can't otherwise address regrets but to say life is too short for them and these are only things you can certainly change it back again if need be
I'm not aware of any specific concerns for the RG but sounds like you have a potential source for that info.
I'll just add that one of the most simple but enjoyable/useful additions I made to my RK are the saddlebag guard bags. Each holds some useful road stuff and has a water bottle holder. The latter I find super useful all the time.
Good luck and have fun
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I had a Road Glide Ultra for several years. I loved it and would still be riding it, but it became to damn heavy for me to deal with as I got older. Now I think, as good as they are, Harleys are just crazy expensive ...prices are out of sight. Makes BMW's look cheap. Still, if you can part with the money without wincing, why not. Hope you plan on taking some long highway trips on the bike...that's really what the bike is made for. Too big, heavy and expensive just to be a bar-hopper.
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Sadly I traded in a 2016 MG Norge ,2017 MG Special and a Yamaha R3 . The RG is a great touring bike but I wish I had not done that deal . Any tips or advice on the RG would help , I still have my 2018 MG Carbon Shine so I'm down to 2 bikes .
Don't regret it. You may end up loving the RG and forget the others. If not, you can still buy the bikes you traded on the used market or something new and better.
Congrats. Come and join www.roadglide.org. A road glide specific forum with a lot of great guys, and they actually don't complain when I post Moto Guzzi photos and ride reports over there. :thumb:
I've noticed this on WG. No one seems to care about ride reports which is weird, because that is what I care more about. I want to see where people are riding their scoots.
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very confusing post
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There are at least 4 ride reports running on WG currently .
The simple fact is , most everyone here has been riding since before tires were round , specs and performance figures don't mean much . Hell , Smithswede just got back from a 1700 mile road trip on a V7 and doesn't even think it is worth mentioning .
Dusty, I'm even more confused.
We need to get another ride to your side of the state and get Rudy and Michael D. Let's see Rudy's new ride. So far as trading all the bikes for a Harley and regretting it, well, not in my understanding.
I'd say, enjoy the new bike and don't look back. :bike-037:
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I traded 3 bikes with a total of 100,000 miles on them for my first Harley Road Glide Ultra. Definitely no regrets. The Road Glide is a mile eater and can still handle curvy roads well if your not afraid to lean it over. Now, tight esses can be a workout.
The Roadglide forum is a mix of guys from all walks and range from Harley only, to guys who own many brands of bikes. They definitely don't rag on other brands, or even their brand of choice as much as the curmudgeons on this forum do.
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I only traded a motorcycle once and immediately regretted it. A client who owned a Harley dealership paid me with a new 09 XR1200. It was gorgeous but I had too many bikes and hadn’t registered it in three years so I traded it with 44 miles on a used Goldwing. My wife hated the Wing and I wished I had given the XR a chance. It was pretty. Not worth worrying about though. I think a new Road Glide is definitely something to try out.
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I traded in three bikes to get my current bike and it turned out to be the best motorcycle transaction I ever had. All the best to you with the RG. They’re wonderful motorcycles and the easiest brand, by far, to own.
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You'll enjoy it for sure, though Harley's are as common as cockroaches around here. Guess that's one of my attractions to Guzzi's..
Here's my Street Glide. Beautiful, with flawless fuel delivery from the injectors (can't say THAT about too many Guzzi's :boozing:)
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Congratulations...and you should have "ZERO" regrets about buying and riding a 2021 Road Glide....They are a fine, reliable, comfortable, open highway / touring machine!! :thumb: :boozing: :cool: :smiley: :wink:
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This thread is not helping me.
I'm considering a bigger two up tourer. Looked online at the Indian Challenger Limited yesterday.
Helen thinks the CalVin is just fine.
The H-D Ultra Limited fits us better, in my opinion.
Hard to justify a large barge if it doesn't get used much.
So many parts to this decision puzzle for a cheap Guzzi guy like me LOL
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2 must does...cut out the catalytic converter & replace the wind screen. The cat puts out ridiculous heat and head buffeting is unbearable with the stock wind deflector.
Here's mine hiding behind the 2 Italian ladies...
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You'll enjoy it for sure, though Harley's are as common as cockroaches around here. Guess that's one of my attractions to Guzzi's..
Here's my Street Glide. Beautiful, with flawless fuel delivery from the injectors (can't say THAT about too many Guzzi's :boozing:)
(https://i.ibb.co/4PRgzHQ/20210709-130615.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4PRgzHQ)
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Taz...as long as we're talking Harley's...I'd forgotten you had the Street Glide. How does it ride with the shortened suspension? The reason I'm asking is I've been wondering about getting a Electra Glide Low or Ultra Limited Low, which as I understand, has the same suspension as the stock Street Glide. Not much travel left in those shocks, I'd be afraid it would ride like a buckboard.
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Being EX 14 HD bikes let me make some recommendations. I have a love/hate relationship with the 14 HD's I owned. I would have the HD Race tuner installed to tune it a bit richer to keep that horrible thigh burning heat on the right side of the bike from broiling your right thigh. That silly piece of plastic and turning off the rear cylinder momentarily will not be enough. Windshield turbulence is something else you may well have that will take time to sort out.
CAM CHAIN issues and clutch issues. You can google or youtube those for hours. Good luck.
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Taz...as long as we're talking Harley's...I'd forgotten you had the Street Glide. How does it ride with the shortened suspension? The reason I'm asking is I've been wondering about getting a Electra Glide Low or Ultra Limited Low, which as I understand, has the same suspension as the stock Street Glide. Not much travel left in those shocks, I'd be afraid it would ride like a buckboard.
You can always put longer stroke shocks with offset blocks to keep the seat height low. Plus the reach seat or low tour solo sits you even lower.
I put longer stroke Ohlin's on my road glide.
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CAM CHAIN issues and clutch issues. You can google or youtube those for hours. Good luck.
It's an M8, not a twin cam.
Kev
PS - maybe the lack of fairing on my RK, plus the Police seat = no heat problems or desire to retune or drop the cat.
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Just to drive in the buyer's remorse stake a bit deeper. :laugh:
I had both a 2015 Norge GT8V and a 2014 Ultra Limited for a number of years. I always felt it was redundant to have 2 long distance highway mounts. I deliberated for 5 years regarding which one should go, and which one should stay. Once I was finally able to take the Norge on some proper long distance rides it really rose above the Ultra Limited in my view (and I am a long time HD lover, still am). The Norge is like a land cruise missile compared to the Limited, although the Limited had a bit more in the creature comfort department. Once it became completely obvious which one I preferred the the decision to sell the Limited was pain free.
I am sure the M8 Road Glide will be a fine bike for you! It should be quite bulletproof. Congratulations.
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Taz...as long as we're talking Harley's...I'd forgotten you had the Street Glide. How does it ride with the shortened suspension? The reason I'm asking is I've been wondering about getting a Electra Glide Low or Ultra Limited Low, which as I understand, has the same suspension as the stock Street Glide. Not much travel left in those shocks, I'd be afraid it would ride like a buckboard.
Stock air shocks at 2" travel with 2 up = no joy for us.
Installed Progressive Coil Shocks that provide 3" of travel.
Night and day difference :thumb:
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Unfortunately, longer shocks defeat the whole purpose of the exercise, which is to get more bend in my knees so I can move a 900 lbs bike around a bit easier.
You can always put longer stroke shocks with offset blocks to keep the seat height low. Plus the reach seat or low tour solo sits you even lower.
I put longer stroke Ohlin's on my road glide.
Those Pingle offset blocks are a disaster. When I bought the Road Glide used, I could not for the life of me figure out why it handled so funny (wide in the turns, oversteer, call it what you want) and every time I'd hit a sizable bump, there was a tremendous "burrrr" shudder and vibration from the rear of the bike. It felt and sounded like the belt rubbing on the swing-arm. Definitely not normal. One day I pulled the saddlebags off as I was washing the bike and saw the Pingle lowering blocks..FTF are these things? Pulled them off and put the rear shocks back where they belonged. The handling issues went away and no more vibration every time I hit a bump. I found the idea that you could drop the rear of a bike and not do anything to the front end laughable.
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Unfortunately, longer shocks defeat the whole purpose of the exercise, which is to get more bend in my knees so I can move a 900 lbs bike around a bit easier.
Those Pingle offset blocks are a disaster. When I bought the Road Glide used, I could not for the life of me figure out why it handled so funny (wide in the turns, oversteer, call it what you want) and every time I'd hit a sizable bump, there was a tremendous "burrrr" shudder and vibration from the rear of the bike. It felt and sounded like the belt rubbing on the swing-arm. Definitely not normal. One day I pulled the saddlebags off as I was washing the bike and saw the Pingle lowering blocks..FTF are these things? Pulled them off and put the rear shocks back where they belonged. The handling issues went away and no more vibration every time I hit a bump. I found the idea that you could drop the rear of a bike and not do anything to the front end laughable.
Well then my friend, here's a thought.
Drink more of that koolaid!!!
Eventually it won't matter how much it weighs, how it handles, or how much noise it makes. :afro:
...just havin' fun with ya.. :grin:
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Unfortunately, longer shocks defeat the whole purpose of the exercise, which is to get more bend in my knees so I can move a 900 lbs bike around a bit easier.
Those Pingle offset blocks are a disaster. When I bought the Road Glide used, I could not for the life of me figure out why it handled so funny (wide in the turns, oversteer, call it what you want) and every time I'd hit a sizable bump, there was a tremendous "burrrr" shudder and vibration from the rear of the bike. It felt and sounded like the belt rubbing on the swing-arm. Definitely not normal. One day I pulled the saddlebags off as I was washing the bike and saw the Pingle lowering blocks..FTF are these things? Pulled them off and put the rear shocks back where they belonged. The handling issues went away and no more vibration every time I hit a bump. I found the idea that you could drop the rear of a bike and not do anything to the front end laughable.
If you want to come my way one day you can try out my road glide with the 13 inch Ohlins. Since they have more travel, they also have more sag so the net result is maybe a 3rd of an inch difference. The ride is night and day.
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very confusing post
No kidding. Not sure if its buyer's remorse or if he's pandering to the group to make him feel better.
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2 must does...cut out the catalytic converter & replace the wind screen. The cat puts out ridiculous heat and head buffeting is unbearable with the stock wind deflector.
Here's mine hiding behind the 2 Italian ladies...
(https://i.ibb.co/BGz9QWd/RG.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BGz9QWd)
That is two nice Harley you have there.
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My condolences.
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Maybe buyers remorse?
I have no regrets on going down to 2 bikes, a commuter and a mile munch tourer.
I would try and make the RG work and as others have said, at the end of the day you can always sell and re-purchase.
Heck that’s where most of my fun is anyway, the hunt and capture!
RideOn!
inditx
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Ive been a HD basher for years, not the bikes but the attitudes, costumes, open pipes, and general dirtbag mindset so many embrace. After hearing my friends wife comment on how comfortable she was on his street glide with an HD ultra super cush seat my wife wanted to give it a try. We weren't two blocks from his house and she said "we need one of these". Me being the considerate husband I am I said "ok" . Who doesn't want another bike in the garage? Bought a Roadglide special about a week later and added the same seat my friend has. We took a three day ride along the coast, about 350 miles per day and Ive got to say this is the most comfortable two up bike I've ever owned. Got home and put my 16 FJR1300es up for sale, sold it in about a week and no regrets. My 17 Griso now feels like a total sport bike compared to the HD. Catching lots of good natured crap from my friends about my purchase.
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Wife and I put 30k on an 03 electric glide classic.
I don’t see how any bike could have offer a better trouble free touring bike. When she quit riding a few years back I figured I no longer needed a 900lb behemoth.
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I appreciate all the comments and tips on the Road Glide if the RG doesn't give me any trouble then I'll ok with the shitty deal I made . The main problems I have with it is $34000 price, 950 LBS, Engine Heat and the Flimsy kick stand or the Jiffy stand as HD calls it . It fell off the stand 1 hour after I got home but no damage thanks to the crash bars . It was hell for me and my wife to pick it up.... It handles and stops good for a heavy bike plus its so comfortable with a great sound system, Apple CarPlay ,Navigation ,Phone you name its got it . I'm looking forward to riding it in the Ozarks in Arkansas in the fall .
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The main problems I have with it is $34000 price, 950 LBS, Engine Heat and the Flimsy kick stand or the Jiffy stand as HD calls it . It fell off the stand 1 hour after I got home but no damage thanks to the crash bars . It was hell for me and my wife to pick it up....
You mean it rolled off the stand. Properly deployed, Harley's "Jiffy stand" locks in place and cannot retract with the weight of the bike on it. Until (or if) you get used to it, it will startle you as the bike rocks forward a couple of inches when the stand locks in place. It's actually a very robust side stand. It would have to be to hold up a 900+ lb motorcycle, and then add another 250 lb of rider that sit on them with only the stand holding everything up. But, like you, I got careless once and put my bike on the side stand without checking to be sure it was locked in place. Started the bike up and went back in the garage to get my helmet. Stood there and watched the bike gently roll off the stand and over on it's side. Well, at least I know the tip-over switch works! :embarassed:
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I appreciate all the comments and tips on the Road Glide if the RG doesn't give me any trouble then I'll ok with the shitty deal I made . The main problems I have with it is $34000 price, 950 LBS, Engine Heat and the Flimsy kick stand or the Jiffy stand as HD calls it . It fell off the stand 1 hour after I got home but no damage thanks to the crash bars . It was hell for me and my wife to pick it up.... It handles and stops good for a heavy bike plus its so comfortable with a great sound system, Apple CarPlay ,Navigation ,Phone you name its got it . I'm looking forward to riding it in the Ozarks in Arkansas in the fall .
Like Mike said, Harley's jiffy stand is the best I've had on any bike. Make sure it is all the way forward, put the bike down on it and it is locked in place.
I personally feel more heat from the sun than I do from the bike, but I don't sit in traffic, and I wear proper leather motorcycle boots and fully Kevlar lined jeans as a minimum.
One day I did want to run a quick errand and was in my street clothes and then I could feel heat from the bike. But know more than if I ride one of my other bikes in street clothes.
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Just read where Harley Davidson is tacking on a 2% surcharge to the price of their bikes due to "inflation" of raw materials and shipping costs.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/topstocks/harley-davidson-fights-inflation-with-a-2-surcharge-but-that-s-not-quite-enough/ar-AAMppwJ?pc=HCTE
My last new Harley Davidson, a 100th Anniversary Electra Glide Standard, cost me $15,000 and change. The price of a new Harley has gotten WAY too rich for my blood.
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What MM and TWA said about jiffy stand. I think most Harley owners have had at least one incident with "improper deployment", myself included!
With regard to the heat issue, I'm pretty sure they still have the rear cylinder deactivation is engaged by twisting the throttle forward. This helps a bit with heat reduction when idling in traffic situations.
A better way reducing heat is to lose the cat by replacing the header. They are designed to run hot for emissions, so I found replacing the head pipe made a big difference.
I have owned several Harleys over the years and my RG, with the header replacement, runs cooler than any previous ones.
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It's more that WG doesn't too much care about the latest fastest techno marvel motorbike .
Some of us do.
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Some of us do.
Looks good to me!! :thumb: :bow: :cool: :boozing: :smiley: :wink:
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It's an M8, not a twin cam.
Kev
My Mistake you are correct. The M8 has it's own set of issues.. :laugh:
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What MM and TWA said about jiffy stand. I think most Harley owners have had at least one incident with "improper deployment", myself included!
With regard to the heat issue, I'm pretty sure they still have the rear cylinder deactivation is engaged by twisting the throttle forward. This helps a bit with heat reduction when idling in traffic situations.
A better way reducing heat is to lose the cat by replacing the header. They are designed to run hot for emissions, so I found replacing the head pipe made a big difference.
I have owned several Harleys over the years and my RG, with the header replacement, runs cooler than any previous ones.
What brand head pipe did you use and did you use the stock muffler ? I like quiet exhaust so I was thinking about drilling out the cat and keeping the stock mufflers I want it to be as quiet as possible .
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I bought this 2021 Heritage Classic 3 weeks ago, it now has 2200 trouble free miles on it. My 2019 Road King was flawless for 17,700 miles. Harley builds great bikes now, they didn't always.
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What brand head pipe did you use and did you use the stock muffler ? I like quiet exhaust so I was thinking about drilling out the cat and keeping the stock mufflers I want it to be as quiet as possible .
I bought head pipe, mufflers and air intake from Fuel Moto. They also make ceramic coated head pipes that run even cooler, which considering your're in Texas, is worth consideration. I already had the power vision fuel controller from a previous bike, so I had to purchase a new map preprogrammed for the the combo so no reflash needed. They are very good to deal with. I got the jackpot mufflers which aren't obnoxiously loud.
I would not recommend drilling the cat and messing with the stock system like that on a 30k + bike!! Any changes to the exhaust system will require modifications to the fuel management system for the bike to rum properly.
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It's an M8, not a twin cam.
Kev
My Mistake you are correct. The M8 has it's own set of issues.. :laugh:
Is there a motorcycle out there that doesn't have "its own set of issues?" Buy what you like, if you are nervous about having issues, get the extended warranty. At least there are Harley dealerships and Independent Harley mechanics available if you do have issues, unlike some other motorcycle brands.
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I bought head pipe, mufflers and air intake from Fuel Moto. They also make ceramic coated head pipes that run even cooler, which considering your're in Texas, is worth consideration. I already had the power vision fuel controller from a previous bike, so I had to purchase a new map preprogrammed for the the combo so no reflash needed. They are very good to deal with. I got the jackpot mufflers which aren't obnoxiously loud.
I would not recommend drilling the cat and messing with the stock system like that on a 30k + bike!! Any changes to the exhaust system will require modifications to the fuel management system for the bike to rum properly.
Yes, don't go at it with a drill or hack-saw or you can kiss that factory warranty goodbye. If you go aftermarket while the bike is under warranty, keep the stock parts incase you have a serious warranty issue. Not likely but you can always put the stock exhaust back on if it needs to go to the dealer for a warranty repair. Might want to stick with the Screaming Eagle stuff till your warranty expires.
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My 2014 Limited had no abnormal heat issues. The liquid cooled heads were a game changer as far as engine heat abatement, or more accurately heat redirection.
I made no changes to the header pipes or CAT whatsoever because I was never bothered by the CAT heat at all. I had the Screamin Eagle mufflers (not loud) and a HD tune added by the dealership when it was brand new. This kept everything under warranty. It ran perfectly and was very comfortable. I never thought it was a "hot" bike in any way. The engine ran so comfortably cool that I removed the cheesy black plastic heat deflectors from the rear frame. They were not needed.
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I have the deflectors, they might work I can't say but I'm running stock, no tune, no exhaust changes, no heat issues
But again my Police seat does sit me further away.
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I have the deflectors, they might work I can't say but I'm running stock, no tune, no exhaust changes, no heat issues
But again my Police seat does sit me further away.
If the Limited did not have the liquid cooled heads I probably would have kept them. The liquid cooling makes a huge difference in "felt" heat from the heads.
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What brand head pipe did you use and did you use the stock muffler ? I like quiet exhaust so I was thinking about drilling out the cat and keeping the stock mufflers I want it to be as quiet as possible .
My wife's right leg got so hot that she got a water blister on it while stuck in LA traffic on the way home from a multi day coast ride. Got home, removed exhaust, cut rectangle shape out of collector, removed the cat, welded panel back in and reinstalled headers. Heat issues completely over. Have slip-ons (with baffles in)and stock air filter, bike runs perfect and not really any louder. Like my bikes quiet too. The stock heat shields completely cover where cut was made. The good part is that if you ever need a stock unmolested header with cat they are all over eBay and such for dirt cheap.
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My wife's right leg got so hot that she got a water blister on it while stuck in LA traffic on the way home from a multi day coast ride. Got home, removed exhaust, cut rectangle shape out of collector, removed the cat, welded panel back in and reinstalled headers. Heat issues completely over. Have slip-ons (with baffles in)and stock air filter, bike runs perfect and not really any louder. Like my bikes quiet too. The stock heat shields completely cover where cut was made. The good part is that if you ever need a stock unmolested header with cat they are all over eBay and such for dirt cheap.
Since I never rode with a passenger I forgot that the pillion takes the brunt of the CAT heat blow back.
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My wife's right leg got so hot that she got a water blister on it while stuck in LA traffic on the way home from a multi day coast ride. Got home, removed exhaust, cut rectangle shape out of collector, removed the cat, welded panel back in and reinstalled headers. Heat issues completely over. Have slip-ons (with baffles in)and stock air filter, bike runs perfect and not really any louder. Like my bikes quiet too. The stock heat shields completely cover where cut was made. The good part is that if you ever need a stock unmolested header with cat they are all over eBay and such for dirt cheap.
What was she wearing? My wife wore kevlar jeans and 10" boots when she rode with me and no complaints about heat on any motorcycle.
When I was young and dumb and wore shorts and flip flops riding, I felt the heat on every bike, not matter how small the displacement. Go figure.
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My wife's right leg got so hot that she got a water blister on it while stuck in LA traffic on the way home from a multi day coast ride. Got home, removed exhaust, cut rectangle shape out of collector, removed the cat, welded panel back in and reinstalled headers. Heat issues completely over. Have slip-ons (with baffles in)and stock air filter, bike runs perfect and not really any louder. Like my bikes quiet too. The stock heat shields completely cover where cut was made. The good part is that if you ever need a stock unmolested header with cat they are all over eBay and such for dirt cheap.
I drilled out the cat and it does run cooler and its not any louder and runs better with no issues . But I didn't drill out the muffler because I thought it would be too loud . Did you drill out the muffler too or go with after market slip-ons or both ?
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I drilled out the cat and it does run cooler and its not any louder and runs better with no issues . But I didn't drill out the muffler because I thought it would be too loud . Did you drill out the muffler too or go with after market slip-ons or both ?
Hope you were wearing a respirator.
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Just read where Harley Davidson is tacking on a 2% surcharge to the price of their bikes due to "inflation" of raw materials and shipping costs.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/topstocks/harley-davidson-fights-inflation-with-a-2-surcharge-but-that-s-not-quite-enough/ar-AAMppwJ?pc=HCTE
My last new Harley Davidson, a 100th Anniversary Electra Glide Standard, cost me $15,000 and change. The price of a new Harley has gotten WAY too rich for my blood.
In my experience, Inflation, period.
I tried to buy a '94 ElectraGlide Standard. $13k MSRP. None to be had in August 1994. "no money in Standards." 'We only have Ultra's. $1,000 over MSRP, plus the chrome packages'. "We can put you on the waiting list"
I bought a '93 Cal III for $7k instead.
Today both brands are close to double those prices new.
I'm considering renting an Indian Challenger Limited for a few days to see if we like it. Highly improbable I'll like it enough to pay $33K+ for the setup I "built" online. LOL
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The 2022 Chief prices seem pretty good