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Title: Rosso Corsa
Post by: AH Fan on March 20, 2023, 10:46:38 AM
I have no association with the owner or poster over at MGNO but if its legit would a true enthusiast please purchase this Rosso Corsa.
Truly wonderful and rare machines to own and ride.This one appears to have the very expensive and hard to come by high mount Ti-Racing exhaust system as well.
Wishing the present owner luck with sale and hoping they wont suffer from sellers remorse ( I know I would )   :bow:
Please advise.

Ciao
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: LowRyter on March 20, 2023, 03:24:51 PM
I have no association with the owner or poster over at MGNO but if its legit would a true enthusiast please purchase this Rosso Corsa.
Truly wonderful and rare machines to own and ride.This one appears to have the very expensive and hard to come by high mount Ti-Racing exhaust system as well.
Wishing the present owner luck with sale and hoping they wont suffer from sellers remorse ( I know I would )   :bow:
Please advise.

Ciao

There is no website or photos listed regarding your request. 
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: guido guzzi on March 20, 2023, 03:48:52 PM
Pretty sure he's talking about the one at the top of the MGNOC Classifieds... It is tempting  :evil:
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: blackcat on March 20, 2023, 04:02:23 PM
(https://www.mgnoc.com/IMG_8315.JPG)

Sorry I sold mine but I'm not going to revisit that experience though it was an extremely trouble free MG.
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: fotoguzzi on March 20, 2023, 05:03:27 PM
I don’t think the market now will support the asking price. $8500.
What kind of location is Fishers?
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on March 20, 2023, 07:01:02 PM
I don’t think the market now will support the asking price. $8500.
What kind of location is Fishers?

Might be Fishers, Indiana. I saw one at the Indy Duck dealer one time. It was in for an oil change.. no idea who owned it.
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: AH Fan on March 20, 2023, 07:04:07 PM
(https://www.mgnoc.com/IMG_8315.JPG)

Sorry I sold mine but I'm not going to revisit that experience though it was an extremely trouble free MG.


Yes this is the one I speak of...........
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: guzzisteve on March 20, 2023, 07:21:39 PM
Guys phone is MO, Price is cheap compared to a new V100. Made before Girly Man gadgets.
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: sdcr on March 20, 2023, 08:03:34 PM
(https://www.mgnoc.com/IMG_8315.JPG)

Sorry I sold mine but I'm not going to revisit that experience though it was an extremely trouble free MG.

So....was it a “positive” owner experience, or something else?
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: LowRyter on March 20, 2023, 08:06:49 PM
some of these models seem to be getting attention
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: Turin on March 20, 2023, 09:22:33 PM
seems a little pricey for a V11 LeMans with ohlins.
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: kidsmoke on March 21, 2023, 04:08:46 AM
Suburban Indy. Has a long distance buyer lined up. My mates dream machine and we may eyeball it if the buyer falls through, per the seller
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on March 21, 2023, 06:31:48 AM
Suburban Indy. Has a long distance buyer lined up. My mates dream machine and we may eyeball it if the buyer falls through, per the seller

Dang! I would have sold Rosie to your friend instead of JC. He just flipped her.
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: kidsmoke on March 21, 2023, 07:23:41 AM
Dang! I would have sold Rosie to your friend instead of JC. He just flipped her.

He did the same with that first G5 I had.

This is Josh, Chuck. You met him a few times. His wife Steph rides a V7, they make it to our lunches occasionally. I don't think he was a buyer then. This particular affliction has developed more recently for him. It was Dave's Tenni that acted as a carrier and spread the virus.

I hope you learned from the Mighty Scura to let me broker your sales. Call me Yente. (matchmaker from Fiddler on the roof)
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: rocker59 on March 21, 2023, 07:30:49 AM
There is no website or photos listed regarding your request.

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Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: rocker59 on March 21, 2023, 07:42:59 AM
The 2003 Rosso Corsa and 2004 Nero Corsa were some of the best Guzzis ever made.  Very competent SPORT-touring machines. 

Very well sorted from the factory, the only niggles being the ITI Speedometer with the failure prone odometer, and the random chance of a failed shifter return spring.

If the low miles are documented, and not a replaced speedometer, and if it's in as good a condition as it appears, the bike should garner top dollar.  Though I agree that $8500 may be optimistic in the current market, these bikes are very rare and desirable to those on the sporty side of the Guzzi spectrum. 
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: blackcat on March 21, 2023, 07:53:51 AM
So....was it a “positive” owner experience, or something else?

Yes it was, the clock did go bad and Greg Field fixed it but other than that I had no other problems with the bike. The cross over leaked and I installed some fittings by MPH but they eventually leaked again then I sold the bike because I bought the Daytona.
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: Joliet Jim on March 21, 2023, 10:04:51 AM
Guys phone is MO, Price is cheap compared to a new V100. Made before Girly Man gadgets.

and real motorcycles ran 20w50 dead dinos.  "Girly Man gadgets" love it.
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: Tom on March 21, 2023, 06:15:25 PM
My Nero Corsa survived the MGNOC MN drowning and had the speedo cable go out.  Other than that.  Great bike.
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: Joliet Jim on March 21, 2023, 07:21:45 PM
My Nero Corsa survived the MGNOC MN drowning and had the speedo cable go out.  Other than that.  Great bike.

What a weekend that was. A lot of nice bikes were ruined that rally.
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: sdcr on March 21, 2023, 07:28:06 PM
On the right venue, this should easily attain $8500, and maybe more. IIWM, I’d submit it to Bring A Trailer, with a slew of photos, highlight any flaws and let the bidding flow.

That is a very nice motorbike.
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: fotoguzzi on March 21, 2023, 07:46:36 PM
My Nero Corsa survived the MGNOC MN drowning and had the speedo cable go out.  Other than that.  Great bike.
Someone should have written a book, some crazy survival stories.
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All these demo bikes were under 8 feet of water.

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Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: John A on March 22, 2023, 12:56:39 AM
Deb and I left early because we had just found out my life’s best friend had been killed on his EV in St.Joseph by a cell fone idiot with no insurance. So since our brains were mush and it was raining, we pulled out as the line for dinner was forming. I did have the foresight to get a rain ticket from the camp ground. I probly still have it somewhere.
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on March 22, 2023, 07:31:41 AM
He did the same with that first G5 I had.

This is Josh, Chuck. You met him a few times. His wife Steph rides a V7, they make it to our lunches occasionally. I don't think he was a buyer then. This particular affliction has developed more recently for him. It was Dave's Tenni that acted as a carrier and spread the virus.

I hope you learned from the Mighty Scura to let me broker your sales. Call me Yente. (matchmaker from Fiddler on the roof)
Will do, Yente.  :smiley: As Rocker said, the Rosso and Nero were well sorted, and IMHO the last and best *real* Guzzi. After I brought the Mighty Scura back from California, I didn't need two V11 Sports. Josh would have been a better keeper.. (shrug)
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: guzziart on March 22, 2023, 08:47:58 AM
My Nero Corsa survived the MGNOC MN drowning and had the speedo cable go out.

Yeah, I remember you making it out of there....left my drowned '02 Wing there and zoom-zoom left his drowned EV :sad:.  Always an adventure.  At least none of us perished. :thumb:

Hey Fotoguzzi, thanks for posting the great pics, I enjoyed looking at them.

$8500 may seem like alot for a Rosso Corsa unless you want one....still less expensive than a new bike with "girly man gadgets".

Art

Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: Tom on March 22, 2023, 03:45:46 PM
I was the last one out of there on a motorcycle.  2 days after the flood.  Matt from NM Rep.  pulled the emissions crap off.  We did 3 engine oil changes and 2 trans/rear end oil changes.  Last words of advice.  "Get it hot!" 
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: Dave Swanson on March 22, 2023, 04:54:33 PM
I love that Rosso Corsa.  A truly unique and rare motorcycle.  It wouldn't make sense for me to have the RC and my plain vanilla edition V11S.  I can't imagine the riding experience is that much different.  So it will remain the V11S.   

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Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: kidsmoke on March 23, 2023, 03:40:45 AM
Went an took a look at this RC last night. Absolutely pristine. Won’t be seeing the light of day however. Sale to a west coast collector concluded shortly before our arrival. Owner was a prior acquaintance and has owned other Guzzi’s and already had another in his sights.

New owner has assembled the entire array of Spines evidently, this was the missing piece. Seems a shame, but hey, you work hard for your money, who amy I to comment. I imagine the MGNOC listing will be down shortly.
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: fotoguzzi on March 23, 2023, 07:38:30 AM
Went an took a look at this RC last night. Absolutely pristine. Won’t be seeing the light of day however. Sale to a west coast collector concluded shortly before our arrival. Owner was a prior acquaintance and has owned other Guzzi’s and already had another in his sights.

New owner has assembled the entire array of Spines evidently, this was the missing piece. Seems a shame, but hey, you work hard for your money, who amy I to comment. I imagine the MGNOC listing will be down shortly.
what other Guzzi would he want to get and so was ready to unload the RC.. ? I’m just curious, do you know?
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: kidsmoke on March 23, 2023, 02:31:08 PM
what other Guzzi would he want to get and so was ready to unload the RC.. ? I’m just curious, do you know?

93 1000S black n green

turns out I'd met the owner before. DGR 21. This pic of one of my crew was taken to honor a couple of striking red heads.

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Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: fotoguzzi on March 23, 2023, 03:01:07 PM
Oh I see,  I guess the 1000s is worth the trade off, maybe.. as an investment but I’d rather ride a V11.
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: Dave Swanson on March 23, 2023, 04:18:41 PM
As much as I love 1000S' I think the RC is every bit as desirable, even more so. 
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: kidsmoke on March 24, 2023, 08:03:06 AM
As much as I love 1000S' I think the RC is every bit as desirable, even more so. 
Oh I see,  I guess the 1000s is worth the trade off, maybe.. as an investment but I’d rather ride a V11.

Interesting perspective. Been giving this a LOT of thought recently. When your butts in the seat and your hands are on the grips, on a naked bike, when the only other engagement is the view of the gauges and the experience of the ride....what's the wisest application of resources? I suppose pursuit of that answer is at the core of what we're all doing here.

I know the energy you've thrown at the 1000S as a breed, Dave. That's a telling statement from you.
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: Dave Swanson on March 24, 2023, 09:46:45 AM
The marketplace values the 1000S about double of the RC, but I think the RC is undervalued. 
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on March 24, 2023, 10:36:41 AM
The marketplace values the 1000S about double of the RC, but I think the RC is undervalued.

Agreed. No matter what the market says, the 1000S sold like Pete's rat sandwiches when new. Grizzled Guzzi Riders looked at it and said, "What will it do that my T3 won't do?" and stayed away in droves.  :smiley: 
I could flat leave Guzzi Bob (RIP)  :sad: in the twisty bits on his 1000S with the Mighty Scura, which essentially had the Rosso suspension upgrade. Fueling is also good from the factory.
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Interesting perspective. Been giving this a LOT of thought recently. When your butts in the seat and your hands are on the grips, on a naked bike, when the only other engagement is the view of the gauges and the experience of the ride....what's the wisest application of resources? I suppose pursuit of that answer is at the core of what we're all doing here.
If you are talking about the riding experience.. I've ridden both a fair amount, and I'd go with the RC every time. She's a good girl.. :smiley:
 
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: blackcat on March 24, 2023, 12:12:26 PM
Agreed. No matter what the market says, the 1000S sold like Pete's rat sandwiches when new. Grizzled Guzzi Riders looked at it and said, "What will it do that my T3 won't do?" and stayed away in droves.  :smiley: 


There is a huge difference between a T3 and a 1000S in either big valve or world engine stock performance and if the 1000S was $3,500 bucks some* would have bought the bikes but at $10K+ it was just a shocking number. I am reading the same complaints now about the premium V100. 

*the clip-ons and lack of a Vetter fairing was probably be a deal buster. And of course the price tag.

Yes, having owned both bikes the RC is the better bike but it took me awhile to get use to the spine frame bikes. They just feel much bigger than any of my Tonti  bikes and because I've ridden Tonti's longer I feel more comfortable on those bikes. The Ohlins suspension is the better deal for the V11 series but I haven't  found the WP suspension on the Daytona to be any lesser.

 
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on March 24, 2023, 01:33:06 PM
As much as I love 1000S' I think the RC is every bit as desirable, even more so.

So if I find a RC, I can buy it and drive to Chicagoland for a trade???  You know you want that bike under a Sparklehorse fan don't ya??????  :boozing: :boozing: :boozing:
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: Dave Swanson on March 24, 2023, 02:40:34 PM
So if I find a RC, I can buy it and drive to Chicagoland for a trade???  You know you want that bike under a Sparklehorse fan don't ya??????  :boozing: :boozing: :boozing:

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Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: not-fishing on March 24, 2023, 10:34:40 PM
V11 Rosso Corsa, my first choice for travelling in comfort.

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The only problem is it doesn't have a big luggage capacity and it's not real good off-road.  My Griso with the Tusk panniers is better.  which my son rode

A few years ago at 9,000 or so feet outside of Las Vegas returning from a Folsom to Tucson to Folsom run.  It was damn cold.

Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: AH Fan on March 24, 2023, 11:41:27 PM
The 2003 Rosso Corsa and 2004 Nero Corsa were some of the best Guzzis ever made.  Very competent SPORT-touring machines. 

Very well sorted from the factory, the only niggles being the ITI Speedometer with the failure prone odometer, and the random chance of a failed shifter return spring.

If the low miles are documented, and not a replaced speedometer, and if it's in as good a condition as it appears, the bike should garner top dollar.  Though I agree that $8500 may be optimistic in the current market, these bikes are very rare and desirable to those on the sporty side of the Guzzi spectrum.


Thx Rocker............. .. my thoughts exactly as a Nero owner.
Very hard to come by with low mileage and in unmolested condition ........... then of course add the very expensive and rare Ti-Racing exhaust system.
Just saying........... their not making any more of these unfortunately,   :cry:

Ciao




Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: rocker59 on March 28, 2023, 01:07:00 PM
V11 Rosso Corsa, my first choice for travelling in comfort.

A few years ago at 9,000 or so feet outside of Las Vegas returning from a Folsom to Tucson to Folsom run.  It was damn cold.
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My Nero Corsa went to the top of 14er Pikes Peak and Mount Evans in Colorado.  Also 12er Cottonwood Pass, and a bunch over 10k.

It was a really good all-around machine.  I wish they still made them, and I hope the new V100 series will grow into the V11's shoes.

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Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: guzzisteve on March 28, 2023, 02:03:56 PM
The flywheel deal, what fun. Left Bill H. place at 11pm headed for FL. Met Dan R & Mr Peterson in the AM for breakfast. Good memories. Got my sticker & patch. Wonder if it's still on Todd"s wall?

Those Corsa model & the BillyBob model are some of the best models Guzzi ever made as far as performance & handling in one package.
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: Dave Swanson on March 28, 2023, 05:41:21 PM
The flywheel deal, what fun. Left Bill H. place at 11pm headed for FL. Met Dan R & Mr Peterson in the AM for breakfast. Good memories. Got my sticker & patch. Wonder if it's still on Todd"s wall?

Those Corsa model & the BillyBob model are some of the best models Guzzi ever made as far as performance & handling in one package.

OK, I thought I knew a bit about Guzzi's but I am drawing a blank on the BillyBob model.  Spill the beans please.   :grin:
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on March 28, 2023, 05:45:45 PM
billybob.. :smiley:
https://www.webbikeworld.com/moto-guzzi-v11-sport-ballabio/
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: Joliet Jim on March 29, 2023, 08:53:44 AM
OK, I thought I knew a bit about Guzzi's but I am drawing a blank on the BillyBob model.  Spill the beans please.   :grin:

I'm shocked that you are unaware of the Moto Guzzi V11 BillyBob. It's the southern version of the Ballabio
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: guzzisteve on March 29, 2023, 09:50:40 AM
OK, I thought I knew a bit about Guzzi's but I am drawing a blank on the BillyBob model.  Spill the beans please.   :grin:
Dealer Tech Slang for Ballabio, Aprillia's Dorsoduro was called a DonkeyD**k.  Just easier to pronounce.
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: Dave Swanson on March 29, 2023, 10:00:40 AM
I'm shocked that you are unaware of the Moto Guzzi V11 BillyBob. It's the southern version of the Ballabio

I'm shocked and dismayed also!    :embarrassed:  :grin:

It appears that the main difference between the Ballabio and my 04 V11S is handlebars vs. clip ons, correct?  My aging frame is craving those Ballabio handlebars!
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: guzzisteve on March 29, 2023, 12:01:19 PM
Big difference between the two, one has frame mounted bug screen & the other is mounted to top triple tree. One is stationary the other moves w/front end. I converted one to do the other & made a bracket for it. The owner didn't want clip-on's but handlebars. Not easy at all. I still have the bracket sketch in my files I think. That was in 08, I also did an Aprillia RSV to handlebars, again not easy.
Title: Re: Rosso Corsa
Post by: Don G on March 29, 2023, 06:13:18 PM
I'm shocked and dismayed also!    :embarrassed:  :grin:

It appears that the main difference between the Ballabio and my 04 V11S is handlebars vs. clip ons, correct?  My aging frame is craving those Ballabio handlebars!
Maybe you need a Cafe Sport.   DonG