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Title: plugging a tire
Post by: jrt on June 18, 2022, 10:07:02 PM
I picked up a nail in my almost-new tire- tubleess tire- right in the center.    I have a 'dynoplug' which consists of a rubber string with a brass needle end.  I guess you stick it through where the nail was and the bras tip stays inside the tire.
Anyone used these?  I'm thinking I'll just plug this one and not bother with anything else (dealership) if it keeps pressure. 
If it makes any difference, I am not going to tour on this tire- I'll use it for a year then move on to a new one.
Any opinions?  Any suggestions on super-great-wonderful-foolproof tire plugs for tubeless rims?
Thanks!
JRT
Title: Re: plugging a tire
Post by: n3303j on June 18, 2022, 11:08:39 PM
Fort 9 has a video with his opinions.
https://youtu.be/Qm6fTWaj3QE
Title: Re: plugging a tire
Post by: Beowulf on June 19, 2022, 01:59:24 AM
Just had to plug my tire on the rear. I used a traditional one as compared to what you mentioned. Holding pressure well. Iím going to use slime in addition as added insurance. I think that plug will work fine but Iíve been wrong before.

So maybe slime in addition to your plan and carry on?
Title: Re: plugging a tire
Post by: cookiemech on June 19, 2022, 04:39:00 AM
I carry the Dynaplugs since those are easy to use on the road (also carry a compressor). If you watch the video linked above, you'll see that Ryan likes the regular "rope" type plugs commonly used on cars. Currently I have a rope plug in the rear tire of my Road King, which of course picked up a screw or nail (don't remember which) shortly after I mounted it. Tire is about worn out and no issues with the rope plug.
Title: Re: plugging a tire
Post by: kingoffleece on June 19, 2022, 04:51:00 AM
You asked.  Remove it and plug from the inside.  Good as new.
Title: Re: plugging a tire
Post by: Kiwi_Roy on June 19, 2022, 05:20:09 AM
Sticky string is good enough for me, I even plugged a hole that had a huge staple in it, belonged to an almost new Harley, he did get a patch on it through some sort of service arrangement but it never actually leaked.
Title: Re: plugging a tire
Post by: Mike Tashjian on June 19, 2022, 06:56:32 AM
I have used the dyna plugs a couple of times now.  I made up a rasp to help clean and rough up the hole. I also apply glue to the rasp and the dyna plug.  They are just porous enough to leak a few pounds a week.  So I would say good for a on the road repair, but failing for the permanent repair.  I found some nice rope style I use on the cars but smaller for bicycle tires. That will be the stuff I try on my next nail puncture.
Title: Re: plugging a tire
Post by: fotoguzzi on June 19, 2022, 07:42:53 AM
There should be an insertion tool with the brass pointed plug.
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Title: Re: plugging a tire
Post by: slowmover on June 19, 2022, 08:01:22 AM
I used a traditional one on a rear tire and rode it for 4500 miles until I replaced it.
Title: Re: plugging a tire
Post by: Wayne Orwig on June 19, 2022, 08:41:38 AM
I have used the 'gooey worms' in a lot of motorcycle tires with no problems.
I usually lube them with tire cement if I can.
Title: Re: plugging a tire
Post by: jrt on June 19, 2022, 09:23:25 AM
Thank you all for the information!
JRT
Title: Re: plugging a tire
Post by: Tom on June 20, 2022, 06:26:36 PM
Have a generous supply of rubber cement or contact cement. 
Title: Re: plugging a tire
Post by: LowRyter on June 20, 2022, 09:23:57 PM
I have Stop and Go plug kit.  It's done me good.  It has an installation tool that's twisted by an allen wrench.

I also carry a Slime compressor with the clamp-on chuck.  It's the only way I can get through the spokes onto the valve stem on my EV which is important since the front rim leaks pretty badly.

I have no advice to the original post.
Title: Re: plugging a tire
Post by: jrt on June 20, 2022, 09:45:46 PM
Well, I appreciate all the information and suggestions. 
I plugged it with a 'gooey worm' (nice description, Wayne).  The hardest part was reaming out the hole.  After that, it was pretty standard- coat with contact cement, insert, pull out quickly (and hope for the best).  After one day, it still seems to be holding air just fine.  No change on the gauge after 24 or so hours. 
I think a Dynaplug would have worked also- the tire was pierced by- of all things- a square nail.  I have no clue how that happened!  My house was built in the early '70s.
Title: Re: plugging a tire
Post by: Kildareman on June 21, 2022, 02:57:26 AM
Never had any luck with the Mushroom type when I tried them. Sticky string works for me. Even worked on a fence post U nail - 2 punctures for the price of 1.
Title: Re: plugging a tire
Post by: Perazzimx14 on June 21, 2022, 05:00:28 AM
Only the rider can determine if a plug is a long term solution.  It doesn't matter the plug type as they all have the same job, stop the air from leaking out.
Title: Re: plugging a tire
Post by: twowheeladdict on June 21, 2022, 08:13:19 AM
Just had to plug my tire on the rear. I used a traditional one as compared to what you mentioned. Holding pressure well. Iím going to use slime in addition as added insurance. I think that plug will work fine but Iíve been wrong before.

So maybe slime in addition to your plan and carry on?

Doesn't Slime have a disclaimer about max speed with it in the tire?
Title: Re: plugging a tire
Post by: kingoffleece on June 21, 2022, 08:30:22 AM
For a "slime rope" kit Neeley can't be bested.
Title: Re: plugging a tire
Post by: Perazzimx14 on June 21, 2022, 08:56:10 AM
For a "slime rope" kit Neeley can't be bested.

As long as the air stays on the inside there is nothing to best. Plugs kit/type doesn't not matter to me as long is it holds air tight.

FWIW I carry a Dyna plug kit, a Stop-N-Go kit and usually a $5 tire work kit from HF.

Dyna plugs are great for small punctures. Quick and easy.

Stop-n-go mushroom plugs are good for a little larger punctures

Tire worms are good for larger punctures where you can even double or triple them up to get you out of a situation.

The nice thing is tire pluggers are compact and pretty light weight so its not a big burden to carry a couple options.
Title: Re: plugging a tire
Post by: bad Chad on June 23, 2022, 09:13:17 AM
I used two dyna plugs on a puncture on our car.  First one didnít quite seal completely so stuck in a second and it worked great.  Lasted about a year, then started two slowly leak.   
Title: Re: plugging a tire
Post by: mmcwhitehead on June 23, 2022, 09:27:56 AM
For a "slime rope" kit Neeley can't be bested.

I swear by the Neeley kit!

The ropes are slimmer than most other rope kits, so they can be inserted without reaming. My understanding is that you should NEVER ream a nail or screw whole in a tire that has no steel belts... the reamer will cut the the cords adjacent to the hole in the casing and weaken the tire.

Also, if you follow the Neeley kit instructions, you'll have a knot of rope on the inside surface of the tire. This should prevent the rope from working its way out of the tire. Seems like a good idea.

Title: Re: plugging a tire
Post by: Beowulf on June 24, 2022, 09:17:31 PM
I swear by the Neeley kit!

The ropes are slimmer than most other rope kits, so they can be inserted without reaming. My understanding is that you should NEVER ream a nail or screw whole in a tire that has no steel belts... the reamer will cut the the cords adjacent to the hole in the casing and weaken the tire.
Also, if you follow the Neeley kit instructions, you'll have a knot of rope on the inside surface of the tire. This should prevent the rope from working its way out of the tire. Seems like a good idea.
. Thatís a handy piece of info and of course thatís exactly what I did with mine recently. Reamed the sucker good thinking I was doing the right thing. 400 miles and holding good ( knock on wood).