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^^^^^^^I can be as easily offended as the next snowflake , but I have not noticed any particular "disagreeableness" on the part of TWA. OTOH, his praise for adaptive cruise control is absolutely nuts; ACC is, IMO, the devil's work. So, maybe we can drift this thread over to discussing the excessive technology in new cars. We recently bought a new Honda Fit. One of the reasons -- aside from its 2009 stablemate having 256K miles on its odo -- was that one can turn off almost every one of the "assists." We have a friend with one of the new big Subs. He's stuck with everything. Now, before I have to plead guilty to first-degree ludditeness, be aware that I leave most of those functions on, but ACC is maddening. If no one bites on this, I'll just sulk. Kathi says it's one of my talents. Bill
I'm not playing. Go bait another hook.
Being offended is a personal chose I'm told. I didn't know that pointing out why some people knock down technology to hide their fear of it would be offensive. Should I be offended because I use said technology that is being bashed? So much negatively that many thrive on.
Interesting analysis , except it is incorrect . First , who is bashing the technology ? Second , not needing something doesn't indicate a fear of it , only that some of us prefer a more pure experience , call it a lack of need . Some of us rarely if ever visit a large city where this high zoot tech might actually be useful , out in open country a compass is about all most of us really need , right ? Maybe simple is better , or maybe I always know the compass points . We're riding motorbikes , not attempting to locate the moon from the seat , although I have read that after the first visit the pilots flying the Apollo vehicles had a pretty good idea where it is and how to find it . See , anything that distracts from the pure experience is just that , a distraction , although it was kinda cool to have a certain Triumph triple verify by his GPS that we had truly broken the tonne on a rural highway in SE Oklahoma , on one of those roads you found so uninteresting , of course i was pretty sure we had anyway . Have a nice day The Sultan
Something is only a distraction if you let it distract you. Speedometers can be a distraction alleviated by having electronic cruise control. No need to continuously check your speed. So, I am guessing you only ride naked bikes with very little instrumentation and ride without a helmet so you can truly experience riding without distractions. Having to constantly check for street signs, or looking at the compass, or the position of the sun and the time can be a distraction alleviated by having a GPS device. What else do you have oh Sultan.
a certain Triumph triple verify by his GPS that we had truly broken the tonne on a rural highway in SE Oklahoma , on one of those roads you found so uninteresting , of course i was pretty sure we had anyway . I like my GPS, use one dang near every day for work. I can set my destination, add 1/2 an hour, call the client with an ETA and still be there my typical 5 minutes early. I have "hideaways" marked all over swMo & nw Ar saved and I travel the backroads from spot to spot using the GPS to go the shortest distance. I've found some really remote backroads I would have never seen. Like I said before, depends on the application. Tim and I were headed to Deal's Gap, when we got there he asked "how did you get here without looking at a map?" he didn't know I was cheating
What else do I have , oh almost a million miles on street bikes W/O any electronic assistance . Here is reality , some folks are more interested in Gadgets than they are in just the experience , and there is nothing wrong with that . I thoroughly enjoy having a simple flip phone that allows me to stay in contact with dozens of people and understand that said phone is a direct result of technology , that doesn't indicate a need to have some device that removes all of the wonder of life . Some of us simply prefer a less cluttered existence , don't want or need multiple motorbikes , the latest in technical advances . Call it a distillation of needs , a way to live that isn't reliant on stuff . As for my preference in equipment on a motorbike , well , a simple touring device suffices , the Aerofoil keeps the bugs and rain off of me , the panniers carry stuff , the disc brakes mean stopping distances are short , the electronic carburetors and ignition systems simplify my life in practical terms , no fiddling with points or non-electronic carburetors . The tubeless wheels do the same , right ? Now there are some who argue that even the Aerofoil complicates their relationship with the riding experience , they can't see the front wheel , or feel the wind , and that is just fine by me , their experience is theirs to have and enjoy , I certainly put a lot of miles on unfaired motorbikes , and at times sans helmet , still do occasionally ride W/O a bash hat , shocking isn't it ? The experience of doing so takes me back , reminds me of what is so wonderful about these two wheeled devices that is so addictive , just a rider and a motorbike , once again a distillation of life unencumbered by extraneous influences . The Sultan
I'm really kinda hoping to lure TWA out to Cedar Vale next May The Sultan
March - June is my heaviest work travel time. But, the next time I have to go west for work, I would like to ride southeast OK. The last time it was a detour from beelining down 54 on my way home, so didn't get to explore much.
Just a little more info on the Beeline. It's a Nav system that works off the smart phone. Program a route and the Beeline gives arrow pointers and mileage countdowns to critical turns. Not maps that are hard to see. It works like route notes with no chance of missing a turn due a missing highway sign (pretty common in my state). https://www.cycleworld.com/story/motorcycle-gear-and-products/beeline-navigation-review/Just make sure you're phone is charged. I carry a battery pack in my tankbag that works great for my phone, camera and bluetooth speaker. And the arrow can be confusing on three way intersection on unmarked back roads, so you might make a turn around, but the arrow will tell you right away that you've made a wrong turn.On my last trip to Arkansas, the route leader was using a map and went by a critical highway intersection. Three riders went past me when I made the correct turn. I waited for a while but they kept going. We finally met at dinner but the were an hour and half late.
Don't ever attempt using any fancy device to find Woolraoc , trust me on this , we were so far off in the boonies the locals sitting on their porches were pointing and laughing as we went by TS
Woah I completely missed that.That looks great I think I'm gonna pick one of those up.Thanks for posting that.
I purchased it from one of the members here that got it from "go fund me" startup. He never used it and sold it for cost. The only glitch I've had is when the phone goes into battery save mode. I had my phone adjusted for 70% power. Just to be sure now, I carry one of those $30 battery packs with USB connect. Very handy on the road. I think Triumph and RE use a version of it on some of their bike now.
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