A question for the smart guys MC

[oldbike54]

Well, yeah. Fusion has always been the power of the future, and maybe it always will.  I hope not, because it would be a game changer. Faster than light? Not as far as we *know*. But then.. what we know changes exponentially. Quantum physics makes my head hurt..

 "Things are impossible , until they're not." From that famous faster than light traveler Jean Luc Picard.

  Dusty

[SmithSwede]

There are some things that will forever be impossible.   

Sure, we may not know the true scope of what is physically impossible, but I'm pretty confident about logical impossibility.   We ain't ever going to see them new fangled triangles with 4 corners, or discover an even prime number other than 2. 

Dusty, how's that for Wild Guzzi quantum-level thread drift?

[oldbike54]

  Champion thread drift Prescott .

 You guys are aware that Craig Vetter put up a large sum of seed money for anyone who could begin developing a motorbike that would operate in the air . Speaking of him , wonder how he is doing ?

  Dusty

[kirby1923]

I agree with Albert, with our knowledge of physics there seems to be no away to exceed the speed of light, but maybe we can do something that achieves the same thing by folding or  warping the fabric of space.
Ahla JLP

Thread drift, quite right.

Its late, must be dreaming.

Time to quit.

:-)

[Kev m]

There are some things that will forever be impossible.   

Sure, we may not know the true scope of what is physically impossible, but I'm pretty confident about logical impossibility.   We ain't ever going to see them new fangled triangles with 4 corners, or discover an even prime number other than 2. 

Dusty, how's that for Wild Guzzi quantum-level thread drift?

There's way too much I don't and will likely never know.

But I DO KNOW that we don't really know what is impossible.

And those four sided triangles are called Pyramids.

 

[oldbike54]

I agree with Albert, with our knowledge of physics there seems to be no away to exceed the speed of light, but maybe we can do something that achieves the same thing by folding or  warping the fabric of space.
Ahla JLP

Thread drift, quite right.

Its late, must be dreaming.

Time to quit.




:-)

 No quitting now Mike . Had a long conversation with my physicist buddy today , and we touched on this very thing . He teaches at the U of A , keeps up with the latest silly stuff . His belief , we will eventually figure out how to in fact "warp" space and time . Just gonna take a tremendous amount of power .

 Now , about that flying motorbike ...

  Dusty

[Nic in Western NYS]

Electric power and improved electronics to make bikes more idiot-proof (says the guy who won't buy a bike without ABS).  Internal combustion engine is on its way o  u      t.  Not in ten years but maybe in 30-40. 

[kirby1923]

No quitting now Mike . Had a long conversation with my physicist buddy today , and we touched on this very thing . He teaches at the U of A , keeps up with the latest silly stuff . His belief , we will eventually figure out how to in fact "warp" space and time . Just gonna take a tremendous amount of power .

Now , about that flying motorbike ...

  Dusty

I'm in!! It'll go real nicely with the ejection seat!

Good night!

[jas67]

There's way too much I don't and will likely never know.

But I DO KNOW that we don't really know what is impossible.

And those four sided triangles are called Pyramids.

 

Are you sure you didn't mean tetrahedron?

[Kev m]

Are you sure you didn't mean tetrahedron?

Depends on your perspective, which was the real point.

[oldbike54]

 Apparently Shay is off the clock 

  Dusty

[Penderic]

0 emissions wont be enough. New bikes will have to vacuum all that nasty carbon and oxygen out of the atmosphere next.

Enjoy the push.

[Kev m]

Apparently Shay is off the clock 

  Dusty

No idea what you're talking about? (He's asleep in his crib).

 

[oldbike54]

No idea what you're talking about? (He's asleep in his crib).

 

 Friends depend on friends 

  Dusty

[fotoguzzi]

Electric,
single wheel no need for front wheel, gyroscopic control..
 you sit in a little control pod that looks like an egg with a fat wheel out the bottom,
 the egg is see thru composite that won't break like an egg shell and has crash protection within..

oh, and you won't have to steer, just look where you want to go..

[oldbike54]

 Interesting Brad .

  Dusty

[Nic in Western NYS]

Electric,
single wheel no need for front wheel, gyroscopic control..
 you sit in a little control pod that looks like an egg with a fat wheel out the bottom,
 the egg is see thru composite that won't break like an egg shell and has crash protection within..

oh, and you won't have to steer, just look where you want to go..

Any sketchers out there willing to give this vision a try? Pretty cool though freaky idea.

[Triple Jim]

I agree with Albert, with our knowledge of physics there seems to be no away to exceed the speed of light, but maybe we can do something that achieves the same thing by folding or  warping the fabric of space.

Hawking said that it might be possible to time/space travel by going into a black hole with a tiny chance of coming out at a different place and time.  Then he pointed out that the act of doing that would rip your molecules apart, and the atoms in them, and you'd be absolutely noting like you were when you went in.  So if this is true, faster than light travel and/or time travel is possible but not desirable.

[Kev m]

My observation is that the pendulum is already swinging away from absolute performance.

My guess is that it was just time for that, and maybe even that we'd hit a plateau of performance vs. Human capability.

But that's not to say it won't be exceeded again.

Hell a decade ago 400-500 hp was the territory of supercars. Now you can buy Camaros and Mustangs with as much. Supercars have gone 1000 hp.

WTF man, where can you use that (even the Camaro and Mustang).

Yeah, things have changed.

[JoeB]

Since motorcycles will offend somebody somewhere they'll be deemed politically incorrect and banned. 
Possibly some hydraulics and fluid filled chassis.   

[Gian4]

My 2 cents.
Changes in efficiency which means motors made of stronger lighter materials.  Continued designs with primarily aerodynamics in mind, again with use of composites.  Big improvements in suspension and braking dynamics.
For what it's worth.
Gian4 
 

[lucydad]

Dusty,

Ok, this deep swimming trout will rise to the fly.

On motorcycles:  I think there will be a trend towards adjustability of geometry to the individual rider.  This will include seat height, all controls,  angle on handlebars--everything.  Gone will be days of sore backs and wrists, and the aftermarket stuff will reduce.  Electric motorcycles will continue to mature, and as they improve range and reduce weight the electrics will expand market share.  Improved handling like ABS in corners and wheelie control will expand across all ranges.  The hydrocarbon based bikes will continue to reduce weight, and yes I think the insane performance has plateaued.  Who the hell needs a 180 MPH bike on a Houston freeway?  I did see a Kawa H2 the other day.  What a waste stuck on 59 in stop and go traffic.

On the topic of energy, take a serious look at Saudi Arabia, oil prices and markets.  Oversupply will last for many more years.  This is one way to blunt technology advances in alternative energy.  Electric cars are a HUGE threat to the Saudis and Opec.  As car mileage and electric technology expands, gasoline use will drop dramatically.  Demand is down world wide, look at China.  Most electricity will be supplied by natural gas fired plants at least in the USA. Coal will continue to decline except in India and China. 

Here is a very lengthy, yet very insightful, in my opinion article on why electric cars will change the world.  I would buy a Tesla if they were not so damn expensive.

http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/06/how-tesla-will-change-your-life.html

Fusion is always "10 years away", but I do think sooner or later the brilliant minds will find a way to produce surplus power output compared to input requirements in a feasible system.  To me, old style nuclear plants make a lot of sense for electricity generation, with much care to location, design and maintenance, and security.

Solar technology will expand slowly, but transmission issues remain, and not all geographic locations are prime for large solar electricity generation.

Ok, sun is out, it is 50F so I will take the poodles for a walk and wear my new boots to further break them in.  After it warms up the hot rod Triumph "Mary Anne" will get her three pistons warmed up, we will burn a tank of Shell premium, and probably pop a wheelie somewhere shifting from first to second. 

[fotoguzzi]

like this but with one wheel.

[azguzzirep]

0 emissions wont be enough. New bikes will have to vacuum all that nasty carbon and oxygen out of the atmosphere next.

Enjoy the push.

New gasoline and diesel blends are already on the market.

 Look for gasoline production for use in older vehicles to be eventually discontinued.

You won't need insurance on something you cannot run.

The future,,,, electric most likely....

I'd like to have a mc like in the movie TRON:

Tom

[Tom]

Integrated protective armor suit w/motorcycle.  It would have a Wi-Fi connection for accidents when separated from the bike.  Self inflating in a plastic fairing shell.  This would be an extension of a helmet and wrap around fairing.  This would similar to any full faired bike but extended around the whole person.  Electric with extended range batteries.

[Penderic]

The dealers really need to make more money! If not on the bikes, then on the parts and maintenance.

One solution:



Up until the brand usage, (manditory membership), fee$ take over. 

[Muzz]

If the development of the aluminium/carbon battery continues I suspect that the main thing we will see is the explosion of small light weight commuter bikes.

[Triple Jim]

If the development of the aluminium/carbon battery continues I suspect that the main thing we will see is the explosion of small light weight commuter bikes.

I hope when mine does that it's not near anyone.

[Penderic]

Mass produced battery platforms will begin to look similiar, the sucessful design favoring the future robotic workers on the assembly line..... and therefore easy to customize with my erector set! Oh boy!

lovely

[Muzz]

I hope when mine does that it's not near anyone.

 
Did not mean it quite like that, but good spotting though.

So far that part does not seem to be a problem as per the Lithium ones.