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I couldn't agree less. Since I started using the Coats 200 changer, I wondered why I didn't buy one much sooner and there's no way I want to go back to doing it any other way.
I had a No Mar for a while. It's not as easy as it looks in the videos. The low sidewall kinds of tires are pretty hard to remove and mount.
I was at a show here in Atlanta long ago, and No-Mar was there doing demos. All day long, they put this big wide floppy tire on and off of this big wide rim. That tire was so soft, and had so much sidewall, you could simple slap the tire on the rim, and it would have been mounted. I literally saw them do that a couple of times. I asked them why they did not demo a tire that was a challenge, like a knobby with rimlocks. The salesman snapped back with this story about how that 'big tire' was harder to mount than a whimpy knobby on a narrow rim.That stupid comment is the reason I ignore No-Mar. My Harbor Freight does a fine job.
So what tires did you watch them change at the Harbor Freight booth?
I would have never bought a tire machine if it weren't for a local shop charging me some outlandish amount to install an overpriced tire on a wheel I brought in. PLus I had to drop it off one day and pick it up the next. I ended up spending something like $300 on a what would now costs me $120 in tire and 10 minutes labor.
If I had clip-joints-masquerading-as-bike-shops like some of you guys seem to have, it would be my last time in there too
Well, I wouldn't call Corporate Honda a "clip joint". Fact is... it's how it is around here. There aren't any independent bike shops. When I was living in the city... the indie guys could charge a high fee, because the corporate dealers set the bar.
.....Now,I'm not gonna go buy a multi-thousand dollar machine, like some folks on here ......, but any rig under $800 or so would be a smart investment for me.
Reviving this thread. Though I’m, let’s say, mechanically “capable” (generous description), changing tires has mostly been a foreign thing for me over these 18 years of riding. I’ve done a great amount of work on the bike’s I’ve had but local shops and such have now gotten so expensive, I’ve decided to invest and just start doing this myself along with all other basic maintenance I already do. I notice HB has discontinued the motorcycle attachment for their tire changer - they’ve done this before and eventually brought it back; however, for now the attachment is not available anymore for it, at least directly from HB. Options? I also notice that CycleHill (No-Mar offshoot) is now on sale for $368 plus some change and I’m thinking about that as well. Advice appreciated.
Hey GA, timely reply here as I just put another tire on last night with my $33 Vevor irons, Windex, and a slight bit of foul language and a sore thumb from an iron slip. Sounds like you have a good system going and ultimately, I may indeed follow this model. For the time being, however, I’m glad I only went with the Vevor irons which are basically knock offs of the Motion Pro ones for about half the price. Since buying these I have swapped a tire on and off the rims I’m sealing about 6 different times with 2 different tires. Some of those times were relatively easy, some of them harder than I expected, but none taking more than about 15-20 minutes to do. After reading a great deal and watching many YouTube how to vids, I have a method now that seems to work “pretty” well which involves the heat gun and then Windex before removal or install. Like I said, not a single tire on or off has taken me more than 20 minutes at most, some as little as 10. I think for now what I desire most would be a really firm, very solid wheel stand as I get tired of doing these on my knees in the basement upon our rug.
I witnessed Rodekyll struggling with the "NO MO" nomar tire changer. Maybe it works with certain tires and 150 degree heat blah blah. I'd give this POS away but I don't want my name to be besmirched. Tex
Nomar needs to include a sawzall in their packaging for that vast majority of real-world tires that don't respond to prying and pulling. I've used Tex's nomar machine as a jig for sawing off way more tires than I've levered off. If Tex can't break a bead with his nomar, at half his weight and strength I don't have a prayer.
Sounds like a plan! I'm kind of surprised Windex works, I didn't think it was slippery enough and never thought to try it. To warm up my tires a bit before mounting I held them 4-5' in front of my torpedo heater for a minute or two but they were already at 70+ F.
Just think about this, no mars lube is, vegetable oil! I've used Pam spray for years and it works way better than th rueglide. Tires always seat instantly.
Hey, it's winter and this is almost an oil thread. should we keep going?
Was not going well and I was like, oh boy, here we go again. But then I decided to sit on top of the tire with the stubborn on the ground forcing it to flare, hit it with the air compressor and bam! I’m calling this the Bead Butt method.
I would say the Windex works okay and good enough for my needs currently but I would like to try some dedicated stuff like tire lube. With my HB heat gun I turn it on the highest setting and then basically circle the tire repeatedly and never stopping long enough in one place to damage.It’s actually taking me longer to set the bead than to mount or remove the tires. I’ll readily listen to any advice with regard to that. I think I’m going to try buying an air compressor connector that will let me remove and bypass the valve core to get more air into the tire and maybe set the bead easier. Right now, I’ll mount the tire, bounce it a couple times, fail at setting the bead, bounce again, push/pull on the tire at the “caught” points, bounce again, try to inflate, cross fingers, hold tongue to left side of mouth, etc. It always EVENTUALLY works but it has taken me as long as 30 or 40 minutes even to get it to set.
That's been my experience using my NoMar vs some of the ladies on here. ( ). I've used a ratchet strap about the circumference of the tire with success. An easier way which Dusty suggested was to use a tie wrap gun and tie wrap the the tire/wheel at and about the troublesome area. Interested me enough to buy a tie wrap gun...but haven't had the need to use it yet.