Author Topic: V85 facelift  (Read 31599 times)

Online Huzo

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 13202
  • Location: Creswick Australia
V85 facelift
« on: June 24, 2020, 03:58:33 AM »
You’d think that at the tender age of 7 months the V85 would still have a youthful look, but I’ve not been a huge fan of the predominance of black spread all over the bike.
So to that end and buoyed by Beetle’s photo shop image..


bbcode image

I have embarked on the work required.
The rims are being polished professionally and I’m doing the other stuff myself. I’ve started by applying paint stripper and it’s lifting the black ok, that’ll be followed by a thorough clean and be re done in silver the same colour as the foot peg brackets.
Here’s the carnage so far..





« Last Edit: June 24, 2020, 09:26:08 AM by Huzo »

Offline tazio

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • Posts: 2730
Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2020, 04:28:52 AM »
If this comes out half as sweet as your Norge handiwork, you've got another beauty on your hands!
Current Fleet
2015 Moto-Guzzi GRiSO
1972 Aermacchi Harley-Davidson 350 Sprint
1967 Kawasaki 650 W2TT
1966 Triumph Bonneville

Offline twowheeladdict

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 6149
Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2020, 05:53:04 AM »
I didn't think Australia has much of a winter that forces one to stay inside for a few months doing those types of projects.   :thumb:
2022 Moto Guzzi V85TT Guardia D'onore
2018 V7 III Carbon Dark #0009 of 1921
2018 Road Glide Special
2021 Kawasaki KLX300SM
2017 Suzuki Van Van 200
2009 Harley Davidson Softail Custom

Online Huzo

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 13202
  • Location: Creswick Australia
Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2020, 06:13:11 AM »
If this comes out half as sweet as your Norge handiwork, you've got another beauty on your hands!
Thanks mate, it should be fun.

Wildguzzi.com

Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2020, 06:13:11 AM »

Online Huzo

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 13202
  • Location: Creswick Australia
Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2020, 06:23:13 AM »
Spent most of today paint stripping and wire brushing. As well as removing bits for the electroplater.












https://youtu.be/61cMv3sv8lM
« Last Edit: June 25, 2020, 08:59:12 AM by Huzo »

Offline Zoom Zoom

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 10519
Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2020, 06:33:08 AM »
I commend you for your effort. The hub really cleaned up nice! I think the bike will look great when you're finished. Much more than I would be willing to do. :popcorn:

John Henry

Online Huzo

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 13202
  • Location: Creswick Australia
Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2020, 06:34:48 AM »
I commend you for your effort. The hub really cleaned up nice! I think the bike will look great when you're finished. Much more than I would be willing to do. :popcorn:

John Henry
It’ll just drive me (more) mad if I don’t...

Online bad Chad

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • Posts: 9551
  • Location: Central Il
Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2020, 11:19:58 AM »
Huzo, you are out of your gourd!
2007 Breva 1100  Red Arrow (and faster than yours!)
2016 CSC 250TT Zongshen
2017 V9 Roamer

Online Huzo

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 13202
  • Location: Creswick Australia
Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2020, 01:47:25 PM »

Offline rutgery

  • Hatchling
  • **
  • Posts: 119
  • The Netherlands
Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2020, 02:15:51 PM »
Wow, working fast! I'm sure it'll turn out great (but still want to see pictures) :thumb:
'82 Moto Guzzi G5
'89 V7 Sport replica from a Cali 3

Offline moho66

  • New Egg
  • *
  • Posts: 8
  • Location: Gilbert, AZ USA
Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2020, 02:34:12 PM »
?

That means he thinks you're a bit nutty.  I may agree  :laugh:

Offline Markcarovilli

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 1082
  • Location: NE Ohio
Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2020, 02:41:43 PM »
Peter

it will indeed be a class act when finished.  Can't wait to see it completed.

Mark

Online Huzo

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 13202
  • Location: Creswick Australia
Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2020, 09:18:57 PM »
Peter

it will indeed be a class act when finished.  Can't wait to see it completed.

Mark
i don’t know why they painted so much black from the start.
They may have been looking to emulate the Multistrada and such..

Online Huzo

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 13202
  • Location: Creswick Australia
Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2020, 09:20:52 PM »
That means he thinks you're a bit nutty.  I may agree  :laugh:
Wah Moho...(In a Southern Belle accent)
You flatter me Sir....! :kiss:
« Last Edit: June 25, 2020, 09:23:09 PM by Huzo »

Offline Roebling3

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 1499
  • Location: MA
Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2020, 09:30:11 PM »
Good on-ya!
I bought one of those ugly as sin racer thingies. The entire charade leaks me off. You have shown me yours. I'll try to show you mine - personally. Luddite only, spoken here.
Good looking wheels; wires especially, looking like jewelry is the ****, if you don't leave town. Otherwise on cast wheels color, carefully chosen, is durable and glare free.
As always, you're fun to watch.  Good fortune,  R3~

Offline Kiwi_Roy

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 9796
  • Location: New Westminster BC
Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2020, 10:36:25 PM »
You realize you will need a polished Aluminium Tail Tidy to go with that.
72 Eldorado
17 V7iii Special
76 Convert
Half a V9 Roamer

Moto Guzzi - making electricians out of riders since March 15 1921

Online Huzo

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 13202
  • Location: Creswick Australia
Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2020, 03:19:52 AM »
You realize you will need a polished Aluminium Tail Tidy to go with that.
Hmmm.
My partner reckons my tail is passable...(for my age..)

Online Huzo

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 13202
  • Location: Creswick Australia
Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2020, 03:42:00 AM »
Rear hub ready for paint, swingarm not far to go.




Offline Guzzi Gal

  • MOTO GUZZI~Because your heart is in the bike, and the bike is in your heart. ~Huzo~
  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 1686
    • Sonoran Sunriders, YouTube
  • Location: Phoenix, AZ.
Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2020, 06:27:21 AM »
Nice!  I'm particularly partial to shiny things. :thumb:
:bow: Thanks for enabling my MG obsession! :bow:
"Anni" '17 Moto Guzzi V7 III Anniversario #220/1000,
"Velvet" '16 Honda CTX 700,
"Brigitte", AKA "Gigi" '13 Vespa GTS 300ie,
"Grey Wind" '12 Vespa GTS 300 Super,  
The twin '16 Honda Metropolitans
"Miri" and Mori"

Offline Zoom Zoom

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 10519
Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2020, 06:39:16 AM »
As nice as those pieces look without paint, one might think thay ought to have left them alone in the first place.  :bow:

Looking forward to seeing the finished product.

John Henry

Online Huzo

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 13202
  • Location: Creswick Australia
Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2020, 06:50:44 AM »
Nice!  I'm particularly partial to shiny things. :thumb:
Oh dear me.... :embarrassed:

Online Huzo

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 13202
  • Location: Creswick Australia
Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2020, 06:58:19 AM »
As nice as those pieces look without paint, one might think thay ought to have left them alone in the first place.  :bow:

Looking forward to seeing the finished product.

John Henry
I cannot understand why they went with the black.
Would you tear the silver off this and do it in black ?


Or this ?


Offline averb

  • Gosling
  • ***
  • Posts: 224
  • Location: Northern Tablelands NSW
Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2020, 10:43:45 PM »
I cannot understand why they went with the black.
Would you tear the silver off this and do it in black ?


Or this ?



Personally yes, but that's because I don't chrome/silver and definitely don't have a wire wheel fetish.
Having said that, I think you are doing the right thing by modifying your bike to suit your taste. Well done and as  someone noted above  - you're fun to watch.

Cheers

Steve

Offline Knuckle Dragger

  • Gosling
  • ***
  • Posts: 334
  • Location: South Is. of Oz.
Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2020, 04:19:44 AM »
I like spokes myself.  Back in '82 I ordered my BMW Boxer CS with the (rare & expensive) spoked wheels.  So glad I did.  BMW's cast wheels were made with an aluminium/cheese alloy mix in those days, & were pretty awful when used as a tourer.  Two of my fellow Boxer riding mates ended up damaging 3 alloy fronts between them on highway potholes.  I dented a K100RS alloy rear too.

The rims around my 38 year old spoked wheels are still - to this day - pristine & damage-free.  I put it down to maybe the cushioning effect of the spokes on impact:  i.e. impact force is tranferred away from the solid rim to the more insubtantial spokes, whereas the full impact is absorbed by the rim of cast wheels.

In the same way, I still think I prefer steel sunraysia-style wheels on offroaders (cars, utes, landrovers etc.) to alloys for the same reason.  Steel, too, seems more flexible yet resilient than alloy.  As an aside, many steel wheels are actually lighter than the thicker sectioned alloy wheels usually fitted to offroaders too.  We're not talking about mareshini magnesium racing wheels here, but just el cheapo OEM crap standard fitting alloys.
Severus bastardis

Offline lucky phil

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 2047
Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2020, 04:28:45 AM »
Spent most of today paint stripping and wire brushing. As well as removing bits for the electroplater.












https://youtu.be/61cMv3sv8lM

I wish you luck electroplating (I assume you mean Anodising) anything that's cast in this country. last time I tried we didn't have the technology. You can do it but it turns out with a horrible powdery finish and looks awful. The Europeans know how as can be seen on Brembo cast brake calipers and master cylinders, but here not the last time I tried.

Ciao
« Last Edit: June 27, 2020, 04:29:51 AM by lucky phil »
If you're not living on the edge you're taking up to much room.

Offline Knuckle Dragger

  • Gosling
  • ***
  • Posts: 334
  • Location: South Is. of Oz.
Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2020, 04:32:58 AM »
Baked enamel then?
Severus bastardis

Offline Zinfan

  • Gaggle Mentor
  • ****
  • *
  • Posts: 792
Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2020, 12:41:40 PM »
Quite the project Huzo.  Could I impose on you to take a picture of the swingarm pins and the bearings in the transmission where the swingarm attaches?  My V85 is squeaking and I think I need to remove the swingarm and grease those bearings  but looking at the manual I can't quite figure out what is what.  I took the arm off my V7 a few years ago and it had a similar setup and I remember measuring the distance the pin was inserted into the transmission so that the swingarm was centered but after that I cannot recall much.

Online Huzo

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 13202
  • Location: Creswick Australia
Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2020, 02:08:01 PM »
Quite the project Huzo.  Could I impose on you to take a picture of the swingarm pins and the bearings in the transmission where the swingarm attaches?  My V85 is squeaking and I think I need to remove the swingarm and grease those bearings  but looking at the manual I can't quite figure out what is what.  I took the arm off my V7 a few years ago and it had a similar setup and I remember measuring the distance the pin was inserted into the transmission so that the swingarm was centered but after that I cannot recall much.
I will do that when I get up.
Currently 5 am here.

Offline lucky phil

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 2047
Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2020, 05:57:42 PM »
Baked enamel then?
Powder coat or 2 pack would be the go, depends on how much you want to strip it down.Powder coat uses quite high heat which is debatable for aluminium and rubber seals. having said that people powder coat alloy wheels and I believe they use a lower temp powder. The OP needs to discuss with a powder coater.   The other option is wet bead blast and then a clear coat.

Ciao
If you're not living on the edge you're taking up to much room.

Online Huzo

  • Gaggle Hero
  • *****
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 13202
  • Location: Creswick Australia
Re: V85 facelift
« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2020, 06:44:05 PM »
There may be some residual confusion sloshing around in the bilges.
There was never any intention of electroplating the wheel centrestand and swingarm bits, they will be two packed or baked enamel silver like the frames on the GS series Beemers.
The absolute colour I want is this, a blending in of the foot peg mount theme.


The electroplating will be for the rear top case rack

 and engine protection crash bars, they will be satin Nickel if I can get it but not chrome.
I got a bit of a scare the other day when I added up what this bike owes me...
About $27,000 conservatively...(probably more..)   :rolleyes:
« Last Edit: June 27, 2020, 06:48:39 PM by Huzo »

***Wildguzzi Official Logo High Quality 5 Color Window Decals Back In Stock***
Shipping in USA Only. Awesome quality. Back by popular demand. All proceeds go back into the forum.
http://www.wildguzzi.com/Products/products.htm
Advertise Here
 

***Wildguzzi Official Logo High Quality 5 Color Window Decals Back In Stock***
Shipping in USA Only. Awesome quality. Back by popular demand. All proceeds go back into the forum.
http://www.wildguzzi.com/Products/products.htm
Advertise Here