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Re: v85 tt mods
« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2019, 09:54:26 PM »
Yeah mate, nothing wrong with that either.
I had it up there on my GS.



This is where my Norge one has been since day one and I’m ok with it also.

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Re: v85 tt mods
« Reply #31 on: November 17, 2019, 10:19:36 PM »
I have always had it up top and figured I would keep it low and out of the way.  I didn't plan on not being able to focus on it from riding position so.....back to the drawing board.













I used a piece of aluminum formed on a sheet metal brake and fastened to the back side of the upper windscreen mount.  The plastic sun shroud I vacuum formed from Kydex.  I placed the GPS, mount, and a 2x4 section taped to the screen to give me the standoff I desired, all went into the molding machine.
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Re: v85 tt mods
« Reply #32 on: November 18, 2019, 01:14:53 AM »
That looks pretty bloody good from where I’m standing..!

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Re: v85 tt mods
« Reply #33 on: November 19, 2019, 03:03:23 AM »
being impaled by a flying tool.
Is that an undesirable thing to happen to a bloke...? :popcorn:

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Re: v85 tt mods
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Re: v85 tt mods
« Reply #34 on: November 19, 2019, 05:17:24 AM »
Is that an undesirable thing to happen to a bloke...? :popcorn:

Not anymore.
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Re: v85 tt mods
« Reply #35 on: November 19, 2019, 12:25:40 PM »
Impale not insert. 
Impale: pierce or transfix with a sharp instrument.
Insert:  the act of putting something inside something else.
 
Hoping this would be more definitive but the more I study it, not so sure.  Should have just said "by a thrown" instead.  Will choose my words more precisely the future.


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Re: v85 tt mods
« Reply #36 on: November 19, 2019, 11:38:32 PM »
Will choose my words more precisely the future.
Hell no..!
Where’s the fun in that ?

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Re: v85 tt mods
« Reply #37 on: November 19, 2019, 11:44:11 PM »
Well I started on the GPS mount.
I began here and located one of these.

For the record, it’s a V85.
Then I cut this out and the next step is to pretty it up.


It will mount to the handlebar clamp at the requisite angle to be square to the line of sight. To get the angle will involve some chicanery, but I’ll post as I go.
Had a chance to do some tidying up and got to here.


Next will be angled spacers to tilt the plate towards line of sight.
The bottom right hand one needs a trim I think.
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Re: v85 tt mods
« Reply #38 on: November 20, 2019, 06:03:26 AM »
Why is your V85 different in the handlebar clamps than mine ?




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Re: v85 tt mods
« Reply #39 on: November 20, 2019, 08:54:37 AM »
I had a PHDS from my KTM Adventure and I figured it couldn't hurt.  It dampens the vibrations just a little more.  Between the harmonic balancers I made for inside the bars, the PHDS, and the gel grips it is smooth as silk.  Looks like your mount is just about ready to install.
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Re: v85 tt mods
« Reply #40 on: November 20, 2019, 02:49:23 PM »
Yes.
I have been delayed a bit with something else.
I found this under my bench.


Currently doing some deft work with a 9” angle grinder, an axe and a sledge hammer to see if I can force it to fit...!
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Re: v85 tt mods
« Reply #41 on: November 22, 2019, 02:14:31 AM »
Ok, I’m up to here..
New shock on and preload set to minimum gives a ride height about 15 mm lower in the rear than standard item.
I’ve slid the forks up the clamps 18 mm to give a vertical change of 15 at the front. My seat height on the wheels unladen is 825 mm give or take.






The luggage alteration is complete, seat is as low as realistically possible and I’ll knock over the GPS final bits tomorrow.
I will post detailed shots of the relevant procedural moves if anyone is interested..
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Re: v85 tt mods
« Reply #42 on: November 22, 2019, 09:55:15 AM »

Trialsman,  you mentioned that you're using a KTM PHDS (made by Slavens Racing?) on your V85.  Can you tell us which specific one you're using?  I'd like to try a set.

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Re: v85 tt mods
« Reply #43 on: November 22, 2019, 01:52:30 PM »
I am using the KTM factory PHDS with, I believe the green elasomers (softer than the standard yellow ones).  The bar height and set back willo be different so you will have to match the bars to what suits you or make some risers to fit under the PHDS.
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Re: v85 tt mods
« Reply #44 on: November 22, 2019, 06:45:01 PM »
Apparently there are several different part numbers for the PHDS' -- were yours for KTM freeride or the 690?

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Re: v85 tt mods
« Reply #45 on: November 23, 2019, 12:07:01 AM »
Ok.
As mentioned I’ll do a gloss over the stuff I did for mounting my GPS.
It’s a Tom Tom 550.
We got to the point where we had a roughly tarted up mounting bracket, so some spacers were next on the “I want” list.
I determined the angle required to have it facing directly at me in the seated position and made a cardboard gauge.
You set that aside for now...
I made 2 long and 2 short spacers of (purposely), ample length.
 They look like this.



Turning back to the gauge, I used it to set up this apparatus and cut the tops off in one cut..
Like this..



To achieve this..



Tidying them up a bit, together with the tops, they look like this...



Assembling them on the plate that I prepared earlier reveals this piece of carnage...





Then over to the bike and throwing the whole she-bang on board resulted in this..







Tomorrow I’ll add some thin walled rubber tubing over the spacers to disguise the bare look.
Can’t be too hard if you say it fast enough.. :thumb:
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Re: v85 tt mods
« Reply #46 on: November 23, 2019, 08:24:28 AM »
Nicely done~!

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Re: v85 tt mods
« Reply #47 on: November 23, 2019, 02:47:48 PM »
The first time I saw a V85 was at Agostini’s and I knew I hated the “bash plate”. I don’t think it’s anywhere near stout enough to do it’s job, so I gave mine the arse after 20 metres.
The eagle eyed will notice it is removed.
There is a section of header that is single wall and noticeably smaller in OD than the rest and looks pox.
Here are 4 suggested solutions.
#1.
 I could go to a local accessories manufacturer and have a real one pressed out of 3/16” or similar aluminium that won’t collapse if you hit it too hard with the sponge when you’re washing the bike, like the original apologetic attempt from Mandello.
This is the sort of stuff they do..




They are B & B Off Road Ballarat.
#2
Do a mandrel bend in thick walled stainless tube that is identical to what that portion of header would be if it did not have the waisted section. Slice the piece through the centreline to have two mirror images and fix them to the mounting points that held the original tin thing..
#3
Laser cut a nicely dressed and styled cover from 1/4” aluminium plate, perhaps slotted for effect, to cover the gangrenous looking section.




#4
Go to the well and dredge up some $$$ and get a full Akropovic, Termignoni or similar replacement system..
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Re: v85 tt mods
« Reply #48 on: November 25, 2019, 01:17:51 AM »
Back to the GPS for a minute..
Some treatment on the spacers...



The end.. :thumb:
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Re: v85 tt mods
« Reply #49 on: November 25, 2019, 06:00:17 AM »
The first time I saw a V85 was at Agostini’s and I knew I hated the “bash plate”. I don’t think it’s anywhere near stout enough to do it’s job, so I gave mine the arse after 20 metres.
The eagle eyed will notice it is removed.
There is a section of header that is single wall and noticeably smaller in OD than the rest and looks pox.
Here are 4 suggested solutions.
#1.
 I could go to a local accessories manufacturer and have a real one pressed out of 3/16” or similar aluminium that won’t collapse if you hit it too hard with the sponge when you’re washing the bike, like the original apologetic attempt from Mandello.
This is the sort of stuff they do..




They are B & B Off Road Ballarat.
#2
Do a mandrel bend in thick walled stainless tube that is identical to what that portion of header would be if it did not have the waisted section. Slice the piece through the centreline to have two mirror images and fix them to the mounting points that held the original tin thing..
#3
Laser cut a nicely dressed and styled cover from 1/4” aluminium plate, perhaps slotted for effect, to cover the gangrenous looking section.




#4
Go to the well and dredge up some $$$ and get a full Akropovic, Termignoni or similar replacement system..

Id go with #1 myself.. Cost not being a huge issue.
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Re: v85 tt mods
« Reply #50 on: December 31, 2019, 02:19:37 PM »
So far the mods have included..
Ohlins shock.
Lowering the whole thing
Top box forward 6 inches
One off GPS mount

On the to do list is.
A pair of constant diameter stainless headers.
Disassembly of the rims for polishing.
Conversion to tubeless
Get rid of as much of the “black” look as possible..(I swear if that engine ever has to come out and apart, it’ll be a winter project to get the paint off..)
Probably the larger screen.
After a session of humble pie scoffing, a speedo correction device..(but I need evidence that they work on the ‘85)

That’ll do for starters.. :popcorn:
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Re: v85 tt mods
« Reply #51 on: January 06, 2020, 08:13:45 PM »
I guess you didn’t have to be Pythagoras to figure out what’s next..




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Re: v85 tt mods
« Reply #52 on: January 06, 2020, 11:59:27 PM »
Luverly!
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Re: v85 tt mods
« Reply #53 on: January 07, 2020, 01:38:15 AM »
Luverly!
Will be..
Constant diameter mandrel bent stainless will replace the headers from head to Y junction.

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Re: v85 tt mods
« Reply #54 on: January 07, 2020, 07:40:47 AM »
How was the figment of the Ago Y-Pipe to the stock headers?  I have one coming this week.

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« Reply #55 on: January 07, 2020, 09:05:04 AM »
How was the figment of the Ago Y-Pipe to the stock headers?  I have one coming this week.

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The figment was part of my imagination, but the Y pipe fitted perfectly to the headers.
I was expecting trouble there, but not so..

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« Reply #56 on: January 07, 2020, 10:29:52 AM »
Huzo, nice advancements on your V85!
 Did you have to modify center stand since lowering bike and with it fully loaded? Any increased effort hoisting her up?
P.S. If you ever get to the States we have room for you (just north of Atlanta, Georgia.) :thumb:
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Re: v85 tt mods
« Reply #57 on: January 07, 2020, 12:48:33 PM »
The figment was part of my imagination, but the Y pipe fitted perfectly to the headers.
I was expecting trouble there, but not so..

Yea, fat fingered it on my phone.  Still funny tho.

Thanks for the feedback.
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Re: v85 tt mods
« Reply #58 on: January 07, 2020, 01:12:43 PM »
Huzo, nice advancements on your V85!
 Did you have to modify center stand since lowering bike and with it fully loaded? Any increased effort hoisting her up?
P.S. If you ever get to the States we have room for you (just north of Atlanta, Georgia.) :thumb:
I appreciate that Tazio, thank you.
I would like to turn up at the gate at Cedar Vale. I’d like to have C.V. on my c.v....
I was going to in 2017, but my mate from a London made me an awwferr I couldn’t refuse..!
As for the centrestand, it’s got a nice long lever moment so I had not noticed. What is the measured seat height of a standard V85 ?
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Re: v85 tt mods
« Reply #59 on: January 07, 2020, 01:25:48 PM »
Yea, fat fingered it on my phone.  Still funny tho.

Thanks for the feedback.
Just in fun Cam.. :thumb:

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