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Re: New V9 Moto Guzzi Roamer love/hate fest
« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2015, 04:03:35 PM »
I'm giving them credit, but of course withholding final say, until we get a lot more info. 

But to me.

It looks like a cool standard.

It doesn't look like an HD clone.

It appears like it should work pretty well.

I hope it has handling worthy of the name; I have little doubt it will.    I hope it has decent hp for a NEW 850cc air cooled motor.  To me that means it should have a min of 60hp at the crank, should be more.  Can't wait to see.  Also, can't wait to see the Italian Milan models astride this new machine, oh I do love a good introduction!
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Re: New V9 Moto Guzzi Roamer love/hate fest
« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2015, 04:12:31 PM »
I'm not real thrilled about the demise of the Griso, now another standard that's underpowered and pretty similar to a V7.  Looks like I don't need a new bike this year.  :rolleyes:

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« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2015, 04:15:33 PM »
Here's to hoping there is a secret successor to the Griso!
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Re: New V9 Moto Guzzi Roamer love/hate fest
« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2015, 04:16:29 PM »
Not doing that would be like dropping the bat!

I agree, dumb name (Roamer), but, I'll take the Roamer, but, with the various blacked out bits of the bobber.
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Re: New V9 Moto Guzzi Roamer love/hate fest
« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2015, 04:53:04 PM »
The rear brake pedal setup looks a bit untidy.  :boozing:
I think that foot's gonna have to come up off of the peg to use that pedal. Do they need a nub? Can they change the angle?
It does look like what a lot of folks say they want though.
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« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2015, 04:55:11 PM »
The foot pegs are several inches more forward, and the handlebars a few inches higher than the current V7 Special and Stone.   I definitely prefer the ergos (and looks) the V7.   I sure hope there is a V9 Racer in the works, and for that matter a V9 Stone or V9 Special with the current V7's looks and ergos.



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Re: New V9 Moto Guzzi Roamer love/hate fest
« Reply #36 on: November 13, 2015, 04:56:31 PM »
Looks like I'll be keeping my V7 Special for a few more years.
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Re: New V9 Moto Guzzi Roamer love/hate fest
« Reply #37 on: November 13, 2015, 05:26:50 PM »
I definitely prefer the ergos (and looks) the V7.   I sure hope there is a V9 Racer in the works, and for that matter a V9 Stone or V9 Special with the current V7's looks and ergos.
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« Reply #38 on: November 13, 2015, 05:41:49 PM »
So do we know if this V9 is the big-block hemi head type motor vs the heron dished piston small block?
Valves per cylinder? Any other engine details?



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Re: New V9 Moto Guzzi Roamer love/hate fest
« Reply #39 on: November 13, 2015, 05:52:32 PM »
It's an improvement over the Nevada...
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Re: New V9 Moto Guzzi Roamer love/hate fest
« Reply #40 on: November 13, 2015, 05:53:03 PM »
Looks like I'll be keeping my V7 Special for a few more years.

THIS ^^^^^^^

Which is a good thing, considering I just bought it, and am picking it up tomorrow.    I'm glad I got it when I did, because the V7 Special is now absent from the Moto Guzzi USA website, replaced buy the V7 Scrambler (which I don't care for) for $1,600 more.

From I january 2017 all the bikes sold in UE should be Euro-4. To me is more probable they will extend the new motorization to the V7 line than to make the 750 Euro-4 compliant.

That's a good point.   Or, if the V9 really takes off, and cannibalizes V7 sales,  it could be the end of the V7 in the US.  :cry:

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Re: New V9 Moto Guzzi Roamer love/hate fest
« Reply #41 on: November 13, 2015, 06:00:44 PM »
It's an improvement over the Nevada...

Could you set the bar any lower?   
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Re: New V9 Moto Guzzi Roamer love/hate fest
« Reply #42 on: November 13, 2015, 06:05:14 PM »
That's a good point.   Or, if the V9 really takes off, and cannibalizes V7 sales,  it could be the end of the V7 in the US.  :cry:
I really don't think so. The V7 is a best-seller, and, even with its sales halved, or worse, how much will cost to put the V7 tank and saddle over the V9 engine, since they have about the same frame? It will be convenient in any case to keep it in production.

Speaking of that, the V7 will be gorgeous with those heads and valve covers.

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Re: New V9 Moto Guzzi Roamer love/hate fest
« Reply #43 on: November 13, 2015, 06:08:10 PM »
I think the name is pretty cool.  Certainly not typical, yet implies the machine is built to go places unknown, to prowl the many back roads and urban haunts of a big world!

No, it's horrible. Unless they purposely misspelled it "Rome'r" then I'd forgive them.

They could have named it:

Wanderer
Rambler (I doubt they'd get any backlash)
Traveler

But Roamer? No, doesn't work.
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Re: New V9 Moto Guzzi Roamer love/hate fest
« Reply #44 on: November 13, 2015, 06:12:46 PM »
I really don't think so. The V7 is a best-seller, and, even with its sales halved, or worse, how much will cost to put the V7 tank and saddle over the V9 engine, since they have about the same frame? It will be convenient in any case to keep it in production.

Speaking of that, the V7 will be gorgeous with those heads and valve covers.

Put the V7 tank on it and I'm WAY more interested.

Even if the Hp is barely improved.
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« Reply #45 on: November 13, 2015, 06:14:42 PM »
 I really kind of wished they had named it the V8 so we could say to buyers of other mid size bikes ...




























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Re: New V9 Moto Guzzi Roamer love/hate fest
« Reply #46 on: November 13, 2015, 06:20:59 PM »
Put the V7 tank on it and I'm WAY more interested.
The article on Moto.it allude to the fact that the "guzzi garage" could be extended to the new V9.
It would be very interesting if the owner could simply choose the tank he likes.

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« Reply #47 on: November 13, 2015, 06:24:01 PM »
The article on Moto.it allude to the fact that the "guzzi garage" could be extended to the new V9.
It would be very interesting if the owner could simply choose the tank he likes.

Agreed!

I'll try to remain cautiously optimistic!  :wink:
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Re: New V9 Moto Guzzi Roamer love/hate fest
« Reply #48 on: November 13, 2015, 06:27:11 PM »
It's an improvement over the Nevada...
actually if you squint a little it looks like a Nevada.. that thing looks BORING.
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Re: New V9 Moto Guzzi Roamer love/hate fest
« Reply #49 on: November 13, 2015, 07:01:32 PM »
Could you set the bar any lower?

At least the Nevada didn't look like a Sportster.

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Re: New V9 Moto Guzzi Roamer love/hate fest
« Reply #50 on: November 13, 2015, 07:06:32 PM »
At least the Nevada didn't look like a Sportster.

No, it didn't look that good. Instead it looked like a caricature of a Virago, which itself was already a caricature of s Sportster.

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« Reply #51 on: November 13, 2015, 07:30:28 PM »
looks like a boring Japanese bike

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Yup, another clone bike. There is nothing to recommend it. New engine, OK but the rest of it might as well be parts plucked from old inventory.

Looks like a Suzuki.

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Re: New V9 Moto Guzzi Roamer love/hate fest
« Reply #52 on: November 13, 2015, 07:32:09 PM »
So do we know if this V9 is the big-block hemi head type motor vs the heron dished piston small block?
Valves per cylinder? Any other engine details?

It's a small block.  New heads, but no confirmation on the specifics.  Number of valves, combustion chamber, etc...
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Re: New V9 Moto Guzzi Roamer love/hate fest
« Reply #53 on: November 13, 2015, 07:35:34 PM »
:thumb:

Yup, another clone bike. There is nothing to recommend it. New engine, OK but the rest of it might as well be parts plucked from old inventory.

Looks like a Suzuki.

Geez, Louise.

You don't have to like it, but it's not THAT bad.

I don't like the Norge.  But I know that it's a decent touring bike.  Fat ugly pig that it is...
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« Reply #54 on: November 13, 2015, 07:37:09 PM »
Geez, Louise.

You don't have to like it, but it's not THAT bad.

I don't like the Norge.  But I know that it's a decent touring bike.  Fat ugly pig that it is...

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« Reply #55 on: November 13, 2015, 07:42:17 PM »
Can't imagine anyone wanting to ride as passenger on that tipped up seat. Should be quite stable at speed though, nice rake at the front.

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Re: New V9 Moto Guzzi Roamer love/hate fest
« Reply #56 on: November 13, 2015, 07:42:37 PM »
No, it's horrible. Unless they purposely misspelled it "Rome'r" then I'd forgive them.

They could have named it:

Wanderer
Rambler (I doubt they'd get any backlash)
Traveler

But Roamer? No, doesn't work.
Hey, Kev - you know your first suggestion has already been done in Germany.  Audi/DKW/Horsch/Wanderer  ... the four components that made up Auto Union back when.  But it is certainly a better name than Roamer :smiley:

You're right --- AMC wouldn't give them too much flak for using Rambler.
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Re: New V9 Moto Guzzi Roamer love/hate fest
« Reply #57 on: November 13, 2015, 07:43:32 PM »
Put the V7 tank on it and I'm WAY more interested.

Even if the Hp is barely improved.

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Oh, and put the foot controls back where they belong, and lower handlebars.
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Re: New V9 Moto Guzzi Roamer love/hate fest
« Reply #58 on: November 13, 2015, 07:45:12 PM »
The article on Moto.it allude to the fact that the "guzzi garage" could be extended to the new V9.
It would be very interesting if the owner could simply choose the tank he likes.

Put ugly bodywork on the stock model, and then sell the good looking stuff for extra money -- that's BRILLIANT!
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Re: New V9 Moto Guzzi Roamer love/hate fest
« Reply #59 on: November 13, 2015, 07:47:36 PM »
No, it didn't look that good. Instead it looked like a caricature of a Virago, which itself was already a caricature of s Sportster.

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