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UK Sidlow Framed Endurance Racer
« on: September 13, 2020, 03:20:47 PM »
Earlier the year I bought a Racebike Chassis and tank that was built by Andy Sidlow from the UK in the late '80's. It was raced for the '87 or '88 season before it was retired in favor of a spine frame. It was an impulse buy.


 
I have a bunch of leftover parts from the LeMans SE racebike restoration/build and am going to use them up here.
The frame had been altered from the original build and I will be putting it back.

As purchased-



Rear frame deleted. will be doing a proper subframe



Frame sandblasted, exposing old school bronze welds




Will be installing a Lemans 1000 motor that already has a cam, but no heads. I have a bare set of big valve heads and am deciding where to send them. I'm not concerned with streetability, as I have other bikes that fit that bill.

other parts going in,
Tranny - Cal III
clutch - transkontinental
rear drive 7:33
forks - lemans 1000
carbs - lectron 40's
Wheels - 17"
brakes - got that covered too.
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Re: UK Sidlow Framed Racebike
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2020, 03:43:35 PM »
Hi Turin,

Very cool project, will definitly follow along here. Do you know if the bike was succesful compared to the competition in the day?

It is an interesting way they have mounted the rear shock. Right on the middle of a piece of tube.
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Re: UK Sidlow Framed Racebike
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2020, 04:30:23 PM »
I don't know if it was successful. probably not. They did switch to a spineframe the next year. It was designed with quick drivetrain swaps in mind.
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Re: UK Sidlow Framed Racebike
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2020, 07:07:41 AM »
Very cool.  Thanks for the thread.  I'll be watching.
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Re: UK Sidlow Framed Racebike
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2020, 08:28:33 AM »
Very interesting frame, it will be a cool bike!
Looking forward to watching your progress, if it’s anything like your last GUZZI build it will be stunning.

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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2020, 12:59:54 PM »
Watching this one too!
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Re: UK Sidlow Framed Racebike
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2020, 12:13:22 AM »
some period bits -

lectron 40's
 


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Re: UK Sidlow Framed Racebike
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2020, 09:45:21 PM »
Mock up bodywork. It's starting to look like something.





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Re: UK Sidlow Framed Racebike
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2020, 11:45:32 PM »
Wheels and brakes


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Re: UK Sidlow Framed Racebike
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2020, 07:07:38 AM »
Very interesting and cool project!
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Re: UK Sidlow Framed Racebike
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2020, 03:47:08 PM »
Dave,

tell me about the Eraldo-ised V11 sport!
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Re: UK Sidlow Framed Racebike
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2020, 06:13:44 PM »
Dave,

tell me about the Eraldo-ised V11 sport!

Al, the fellow I bought the V11S from was the original owner.  He purchased it as a new leftover 2004 the summer of 2009 from Rose Farm Classics and had it shipped to New Jersey.  Al had known Eraldo Ferrraci for many years, since the Fast By Ferracci shop had opened not far from his house.  Al promptly brought the bike to FBF and Eraldo performed a few of the usual modifications  -  the front crossover was eliminated, de-cat, slip ons and "race" ECU.    I must say this is one strong V11S!!!

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Re: UK Sidlow Framed Racebike
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2020, 08:18:23 PM »
Very nice. No Ferracci pistons ? I ask because I'm altering the lemans 1000 engine due to be put in this abomination.
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« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2020, 08:23:12 PM »
Very nice. No Ferracci pistons ? I ask because I'm altering the lemans 1000 engine due to be put in this abomination.

No internal modifications.  Just the basics.
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Re: UK Sidlow Framed Racebike
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2020, 05:03:10 PM »
Got my 92mm Ferracci (Wiesco) pistons and stainless "Super Flo" valves. Ferracci needs to Fire the guy who etches their pistons. Kibble white springs not pictured.








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Re: UK Sidlow Framed Racebike
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2020, 06:06:15 PM »
Got my 92mm Ferracci (Wiesco) pistons and stainless "Super Flo" valves. Ferracci needs to Fire the guy who etches their pistons. Kibble white springs not pictured.










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Re: UK Sidlow Framed Racebike
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2020, 09:08:11 AM »
drivetrain mock up.

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Re: UK Sidlow Framed Racebike
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2020, 09:32:16 AM »
Al, the fellow I bought the V11S from was the original owner.  He purchased it as a new leftover 2004 the summer of 2009 from Rose Farm Classics and had it shipped to New Jersey.  Al had known Eraldo Ferrraci for many years, since the Fast By Ferracci shop had opened not far from his house.  Al promptly brought the bike to FBF and Eraldo performed a few of the usual modifications  -  the front crossover was eliminated, de-cat, slip ons and "race" ECU.    I must say this is one strong V11S!!!


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Is the nicest bike I’ve ever seen, better than anything I have ever owned. I reckon I’m gunna’ get one... :clock:

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Re: UK Sidlow Framed Racebike
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2020, 09:37:42 AM »
Also Turin.
This will be a great thread to follow. It might silence a few detractors of the Griso/Stelvio engined MGS01 concept.
Yours will be similar style of project.. :popcorn: x 100.. :bow: :thumb:

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Re: UK Sidlow Framed Racebike
« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2020, 10:28:15 AM »
Mock up looking good. Is that the original SE main block? Looks hardly used.
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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2020, 10:49:41 AM »
That is the original SE Block. I bought a set of bare big valve heads years ago. Heads will be reworked. According to Lance Baker, that engine has a cam he got from John Wittner, so I'd guess it's a Norris RR3. Should go pretty good.

Huzo, I disagree. Your project is a much more Herculean effort. ( I'm looking forward to seeing it) We all know what an MGS-01 is so there will be expectations right or wrong.

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« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2020, 11:24:53 AM »
Huzo, I disagree. Your project is a much more Herculean effort. ( I'm looking forward to seeing it) We all know what an MGS-01 is so there will be expectations right or wrong.
My MGS/Griso fantasy is just that...A fantasy, because to procure an engineless MGS is out of the question to the great unwashed like me, so back to you..
I’ll be watching every step of your project, it will answer a few questions and silence a few critics..Bravo....!

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« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2020, 08:35:47 AM »
THAT...!
Is the nicest bike I’ve ever seen, better than anything I have ever owned. I reckon I’m gunna’ get one... :clock:

That is one helluva compliment!  It is a beauty!   Thanks Huzo
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Re: UK Sidlow Framed Racebike
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2020, 09:19:01 AM »
Got my 92mm Ferracci (Wiesco) pistons and stainless "Super Flo" valves. Ferracci needs to Fire the guy who etches their pistons. Kibble white springs not pictured.










Beautiful!  And quite a bit of self promotion for a part that seldom sees daylight!   :cheesy:
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« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2020, 10:24:54 AM »
Very cool.  It's looking good, Turin.
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Re: UK Sidlow Framed Racebike
« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2020, 06:07:51 AM »
My MGS/Griso fantasy is just that...A fantasy, because to procure an engineless MGS is out of the question to the great unwashed like me, so back to you..
I’ll be watching every step of your project, it will answer a few questions and silence a few critics..Bravo....!

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« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2020, 01:26:02 PM »
Nothing wrong with that gem. I'd have one in a heartbeat.
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Re: UK Sidlow Framed Racebike
« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2020, 08:51:45 PM »
Wheels and brakes




What wheels and brake rotors are those?

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Re: UK Sidlow Framed Racebike
« Reply #29 on: November 17, 2020, 02:08:17 AM »
Nothing wrong with that gem. I'd have one in a heartbeat.
See..?
This is what I’ve been blabbing on about for years. Why would you not ?
It will not matter if a Desmosedici is faster..

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