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Offline Groover

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Re: 1000SP triple help
« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2015, 08:44:37 AM »
Looks like that .983/4 is the tough part. My lower bearing was actually easier to remove (once I figured out how, with help from others here on the forum) than the top one, which makes sense based on your measurement of .983.  The top one was just super tight. Thanks for measuring stuff in detail like that.
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Re: 1000SP triple help
« Reply #31 on: May 11, 2015, 12:46:40 AM »
I got the Triple from fotoguzzi and it ended up working out.  I measured it all up and it had the same measurements as mine.  .983 on the top machined surface.  I set about massaging it with some sand paper.  I took my dremel and took the sharp edge off where the threads end and where the bearing surface ends.  After about 20 min of massaging I got to this.  



The bearing slides on and off perfectly now.  I wonder if the root cause is manufacture of the bearings.  Regardless, I will measure and test fit before attempted assembly every time now.    

Is there a preferred method to seat and tighten these down??  Thanks, 
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Re: 1000SP triple help
« Reply #32 on: May 11, 2015, 08:16:27 AM »
I did an initial sanding on mine this weekend (I had 5 minutes to kill), but I haven't done a test fit with the bearings yet. I bought new SKF bearings which is what the originals ones were. Which brand did you buy?

I plan on using this grease. It's Moly fortified and I plan on using it for the swing arm too.

http://www.amazon.com/Valvoline-VV632-Fortified-Multi-Purpose-Vehicles/dp/B000GAD07O

What are you using? Something red? Is it this?

http://www.amazon.com/Silkolene-Pro-RG2-Grease-500g-80077400486/dp/B0022ZYXWC

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Re: 1000SP triple help
« Reply #33 on: May 11, 2015, 02:17:40 PM »
I had a set from All Balls racing and the ones that are in it now are National/BCA.  I used the Mobil 1 Synthetic wheel bearing grease. 

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Re: 1000SP triple help
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Re: 1000SP triple help
« Reply #34 on: May 11, 2015, 02:28:16 PM »
Ooh, a grease thread. I am so happy about the way this story is turning out.   :bow



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Re: 1000SP triple help
« Reply #35 on: May 11, 2015, 03:10:10 PM »
Adjusting the steering head is straightforward.

take the load off the front end.

Tighten the post nut until it is tight.

Loosen it until the front end 'drops' freely left/right

Tighten till it just binds (doesn't drop freely)

Find that perfect place where you've got freefall and any tighter binds.

Check to see that the washer under the post nut slips freely when pushed with a screwdriver

Check for any wiggle in the post by pushing and pulling on the forks.  If all is set up properly and you still have wiggle, there is a problem with the bearing outer races/steering head.  Once I couldn't get the wiggle to go away and discovered the lower opening of the neck was ovalized from a collision.


I'd think that about any high pressure (ep) grease would do for the bearings.  Waterproof is a plus.  I try to pack some into the neck tube to keep water away from the lower bearing.  The plastic-looking blue is what I prefer, but I have some plastic-looking red in there right now on account of the blue was not available when I got to that point.

Remember that a bearing is really intended to go around in a circle, one way.  With our swing arms and steering we have tapered roller bearings that only go a few degrees in one direction, and then a few degrees in the other.  With the sideload forces present, this activity causes 'notchy' wear.  If you adjust too tightly on notched races the bearing will settle into the troughs and trip over the peaks -- you'll always have some point of too loose and some point of too tight.

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