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Title: LeMans 1 fairing/turn signals
Post by: kidsmoke on November 29, 2022, 08:06:18 PM
Headlight cowling
bikini fairing
quarter fairing
nose cowling

I'm curious what you call it, but more importantly, I'd like to see, with some detail if possible, how the turn signals were mounted below the head tube.

Thanks in advance!


(https://i.ibb.co/wrwRLN2/Screen-Shot-2022-11-29-at-8-54-29-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/wrwRLN2)

(https://i.ibb.co/tq46hyq/Screen-Shot-2022-11-29-at-8-56-00-PM.png) (https://ibb.co/tq46hyq)
Title: Re: LeMans 1 fairing/turn signals
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on November 29, 2022, 08:23:40 PM
Like this one for a Cal II, etc. narrower and black.


(https://i.ibb.co/cDpVHjh/Cal-II-signal-mount.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cDpVHjh)

Title: Re: LeMans 1 fairing/turn signals
Post by: 2WheelsUp on November 29, 2022, 08:28:32 PM
As Charlie pointed out, the LM1 indicators are attached to a straight rod that is secured to the rear of the lower yoke via two tabs that have a slight twist in to mate nicely to the yoke.


(https://i.ibb.co/g6r2JY7/IMG-5694-002.jpg) (https://ibb.co/g6r2JY7)

(https://i.ibb.co/3zdpswH/IMG-5693.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3zdpswH)

Title: Re: LeMans 1 fairing/turn signals
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on November 30, 2022, 07:18:39 AM
So..uhh.. Kip.. did you just come onto a LM1??  :drool:
Title: Re: LeMans 1 fairing/turn signals
Post by: blackcat on November 30, 2022, 07:20:48 AM
Last page of the parts book, part #19. I did a quick search as someone was selling this part but I can’t seem to find it now but it should fit on your 1000S.

https://www.thisoldtractor.com/mg_manuals/spare_parts_catalog_lemans_it-en-fr-de.pdf
Title: Re: LeMans 1 fairing/turn signals
Post by: Mayor_of_BBQ on November 30, 2022, 07:26:15 AM
I usually call it a bikini fairing, but headlight cowl is probably more accurate
Title: Re: LeMans 1 fairing/turn signals
Post by: blackcat on November 30, 2022, 08:05:03 AM
And if you’re planning on installing the bikini fairing on your 1000S it will require modifying the openings of the fairing for the fork tubes and the top of the clock holders will be right against wind screen unless you plan on changing the holder to the early models or the one typical to the LM I. Basically, this is not a plug and play modification.
Title: Re: LeMans 1 fairing/turn signals
Post by: guzzista on November 30, 2022, 10:39:17 AM
The earlier version of the turn signal mount was mounted to the frame in the same spot where crash guards would bolt up.


(https://i.ibb.co/xf1ZFgb/P1010101.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xf1ZFgb)
Title: Re: LeMans 1 fairing/turn signals
Post by: Groover on November 30, 2022, 02:08:36 PM
ya, whach'a gonna do with this?  :wink:  LM1 or something on the LM4?
Title: Re: LeMans 1 fairing/turn signals
Post by: kidsmoke on November 30, 2022, 03:12:16 PM
ya, whach'a gonna do with this?  :wink:  LM1 or something on the LM4?

Fun seeing speculation kick in! After the year I’ve had, Chuck, I suppose it wouldn’t seem too far fetched, but no LM1 for me at this point.

Nope. Blackcat’s assumptions are correct. Bikini fairing on the 1000S. My understanding is that, aside from looking great, this was also OEM on British versions of the bike.

I speculated that may be the case re: the clocks. The BAT auction that raised the cieling on these bikes had that fairing, and I liked it. As you know BC, there’s also a Japanese fellow on the FB page that’s got a beautiful black/orange example. This is what I’m exploring.
Title: Re: LeMans 1 fairing/turn signals
Post by: testa_di_formaggio on November 30, 2022, 03:27:06 PM
The earlier version of the turn signal mount was mounted to the frame in the same spot where crash guards would bolt up.

Model year based, first series/second series as Guzzi calls it. '76 (first series) as guzzista says, straight mount across the frame. Similar to some of the chrome rear signal mounts on T3's etc, but in black. '77 and '78 (second series), black fork mount like Charlie shows. The latter type show up as repops occasionally out of Europe.   
Title: Re: LeMans 1 fairing/turn signals
Post by: blackcat on November 30, 2022, 04:36:07 PM

Nope. Blackcat’s assumptions are correct. Bikini fairing on the 1000S. My understanding is that, aside from looking great, this was also OEM on British versions of the bike.



Yes, but those bikes did not have the same clock holder as your bike. Here is a photo of my CX with the 1000S clock holder and the LM I fairing. If you enlarge the photo you can see the rubber bumpers I put on the top of the holder to keep the screen from breaking or scratching the screen. Yes, it's not the same triple tree as the 1000S but I bet it's pretty close in terms of the mounting plane on top of the clamp. 

(https://i.ibb.co/vZrKpND/IMG-0440.jpg)

I eventually went to the LM I clock holder which looks better and I wasn't replacing screens every few years.  And if you take this route on the 1000S you will need the 40mm brackets or make some brackets to hold the clocks below the top triple tree. Maybe if you hunt down a parts book from those early bikes you might find the part number and some supplier has a pair on the shelf. And I don't think there is enough meat on the 35mm clock holders to make them wide enough for the 40mm forks.

(https://i.ibb.co/wWfSY5s/C08-E5306-DFDE-451-C-88-B8-1-B6654-C27840.jpg)


Title: Re: LeMans 1 fairing/turn signals
Post by: kidsmoke on November 30, 2022, 10:04:36 PM
Thanks for the informative replies gents!

here is the muse

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