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What do you think?
« on: April 08, 2020, 06:25:35 AM »
So, during my confinement here in Italy, I found this on the equivalent of Craigslist. Anybody know of these? Can it be done (restored)? Not worth the effort?

https://www.subito.it/accessori-moto/moto-guzzi-udine-334302756.htm
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Re: What do you think?
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2020, 10:04:13 AM »
Looks like a Motoleggera - 65cc two stroke, its a strange one because it has the girder front end but also the scissor damper rear end, all of the ones I have seen with the pressed steel blade forks have a sprung but non dampened rear suspension. It has the 3 speed hand shift, I am guessing early 50's??
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Re: What do you think?
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2020, 10:06:27 AM »
It has the 3 speed hand shift, I am guessing early 50's??

I don't know. The ad says it is a "Goldfinch" but I don't know the MG lineup enough to really know more than that.
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Re: What do you think?
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2020, 10:22:36 AM »
I don't know. The ad says it is a "Goldfinch" but I don't know the MG lineup enough to really know more than that.

Goldfinch is the later model, it translates to Cardellino. The Cardellino was a 73cc, typically foot gear change with telescopic forks and the scissor dampened rear end. I have a 1958 with telescopic forks and the same rear and suspension as the one in the ad.

The bike could be a transition  model from the 65cc Motoleggara to the foot change Cardellino using up early front suspensions with the newer frame.

These sell for $2500 ~ $3500 USD in nice shape.
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Re: What do you think?
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2020, 10:22:36 AM »

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Re: What do you think?
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2020, 11:54:46 AM »
 Any motorbike can be restored , it comes down to skill and money . The less skill you have , the more money it will cost .

 There is a a group of guys who do a tour around Arkansas and Missouri every year on motorbikes that are on the road for $1,000. or less . Mostly older Japanese bikes built in the 1970's . Of course building a reliable runner on that budget isn't much of a problem if you already have spent several thousand dollars on similar models to steal parts from , and have a shop equipped with a lot of expensive tools .

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Re: What do you think?
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2020, 05:04:52 PM »
Any motorbike can be restored , it comes down to skill and money . The less skill you have , the more money it will cost .

 There is a a group of guys who do a tour around Arkansas and Missouri every year on motorbikes that are on the road for $1,000. or less . Mostly older Japanese bikes built in the 1970's . Of course building a reliable runner on that budget isn't much of a problem if you already have spent several thousand dollars on similar models to steal parts from , and have a shop equipped with a lot of expensive tools .

 Dusty

For many years the local chapter of the Canadian Vintage Motorcyle Group hosts "The Frugal 500", to qualify you haver to get a bike on the road for no more than $500 total cost and comlete a two day 500km ride. The Frugal has kind of dopped off over the years as finding a runner for $500 is getting hard to do, still some fells pull it off year after year.
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Re: What do you think?
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2020, 12:13:53 AM »
2 strokes are easy to work on.  Get it running ride it around in original patina.  Would look cool.   :thumb:
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