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Title: My gas tank is so small...
Post by: JJ on April 18, 2021, 12:38:47 PM
Saw this Indian Scout at the local CYCLE GEAR store down in the Valley on Friday.  The owner said his gas tank is so small, he has to carry a spare Roto-PAX gas container with him all the time!!!

He said he is lucky to get 100 miles out of a tank!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :huh: :huh: :huh: Funny...the tank looks much bigger than it actually is... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


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Title: Re: My gas tank is so small...
Post by: jcctx on April 18, 2021, 12:46:58 PM
Had a Honda ACE 1100 that was nearly that bad; 125 miles to reserve.
Title: Re: My gas tank is so small...
Post by: ridingron on April 18, 2021, 01:48:03 PM
JJ-What's the range on your Centauro?
Title: Re: My gas tank is so small...
Post by: Moparnut72 on April 18, 2021, 02:24:28 PM
Man, that's not much more than a Sportster with a Peanut tank. My V7lll holds quite a bit more fuel than my Audace. The Audace tank looks huge in comparison.
kk
Title: Re: My gas tank is so small...
Post by: bad Chad on April 18, 2021, 03:30:45 PM
That's not great.  The v9 has a tank rated at 3.96 gallons, but I know it will go at least 170 miles on that 4 gallon, but I haven't pushed it far enough to know.
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Post by: flower_king001 on April 18, 2021, 03:32:16 PM
I feel that my EV and Cali 1000i both have peanut tanks as well. Around 125 miles my fuel light comes on. Longer rides I prefer my 86 Lemans or Breva 1100
Title: Re: My gas tank is so small...
Post by: JJ on April 18, 2021, 06:47:28 PM
JJ-What's the range on your Centauro?

18 Litres / 4.7 US gal gas tank capacity -

- - 160-165 miles before the "RESERVE" light glows orange

...then MAYBE another 20-25 miles before it goes dry... :rolleyes: :shocked: :huh:  I average about 40-45 MPG... :thumb: :cool: :wink: :smiley:
Title: Re: My gas tank is so small...
Post by: Kev m on April 18, 2021, 07:15:39 PM
Man, that's not much more than a Sportster with a Peanut tank. My V7lll holds quite a bit more fuel than my Audace. The Audace tank looks huge in comparison.
kk

Define peanut tank?

There's the 2.3, 3.3, and then the Walnut 4.5

Anyway the Scout has a 3.3, and tends to get somewhere in the 40's mpg, so should have a theoretical 120-140 mile range.

But I know nothing about the low fuel light and what that particular rider does.

On Sportys it wasn't uncommon for an 883 to see 50+ and a good 125-140 before the small reserve with the 3.3 tank. 1200's often got a little less per gallon, closer to 40 or so.
Title: Re: My gas tank is so small...
Post by: Brand X on April 18, 2021, 07:39:19 PM
Solid 300 with my 1100 Breva.. It holds 6.5 from dead empty.. It's been in the low 50 mpg out on the mountain roads I ride at..  I  did 320 yesterday. My 1100 monster was the best big bore MPG rig,but the pipes,weight, and tuning helped that over 60 MPG once, and a while. 4 gal tank still limits it's range compared to my Breva.. Figured the 400 pounds wet weight helped it along too.. I understand range issues, owning a new VTR Superhawk 998,Aprila twins, etc.. Although the second gen was pretty dang good..

I have my Breva setup for a 1.2 gal Rotopax, but not sure why I would need it.. Still 7.7 gals total is some long distance range..
Title: Re: My gas tank is so small...
Post by: Huzo on April 18, 2021, 09:55:55 PM
Well guys..
The tank is the same size as when you bought it...
Title: Re: My gas tank is so small...
Post by: Brand X on April 18, 2021, 10:45:11 PM
Well guys..
The tank is the same size as when you bought it...

Wish that was true of all bikes, but some swell up with alkky gas.. :evil:
Title: Re: My gas tank is so small...
Post by: wavedog on April 19, 2021, 04:36:32 AM
 Barely a hundred miles to a tank on a Scout- either that dude is on the throttle all the time or it needs to be tuned. I have two friends with three scouts between them (one owns two) and they get get 45-50 mpg.
 A few years ago there was a member of this group who rode cross country with his wife on a pair of scouts and, if I remember correctly, their gas mileage was in the high 40's.
 On the early Scouts the gas mileage was all over the map, but barely a hundred to the tank doesn't seem right. Well, they are fun to ride and twisting the throttle on a Scout is a good time, so....
Title: Re: My gas tank is so small...
Post by: mechanicsavant on April 19, 2021, 06:38:23 AM
Tiny tank syndrome is why I dissed the V9 series , that & the fat front tire . Iíve squeezed 200 Mi. Out of my V7II on a few occasions, the charcoal canister-ectomy was one of the first modifications done .
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Post by: kballowe on April 19, 2021, 06:42:22 AM
My 1400 tour got 120-130 before low fuel light
Title: Re: My gas tank is so small...
Post by: Kev m on April 19, 2021, 06:44:22 AM
Tiny tank syndrome is why I dissed the V9 series , that & the fat front tire . Iíve squeezed 200 Mi. Out of my V7II on a few occasions,

Squeezed?!?

What's wrong with it?

My low fuel light goes on a 200 and I usually start looking by 250. I've seen 275 and one of these days I'll SQUEEZE 300 out of it.

Oh, this weekend was funny though. I checked the tripmeter before I left home and saw I already had 150 miles on the tank, so when I hit 250 and the light hadn't come on yet I started to get worried. Got gas by 270 and only put 3 gallons in - confirming my suspect theory that I'd simply refilled it for some reason at a partial tank and forgot to reset my meter.
Title: Re: My gas tank is so small...
Post by: stonelover on April 19, 2021, 07:31:15 AM
The large tank capacity is one of my reasons for purchasing the V7 II. Fuel light comes on at 200 miles and it fills with only four gallons. Should be able to go for 250 miles before dry. I won't push it. (Pun intended!)
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Post by: Ncdan on April 19, 2021, 07:36:24 AM
Well guys you know what that say about guys with small tanks???😂😂
Title: Re: My gas tank is so small...
Post by: kballowe on April 19, 2021, 07:44:39 AM
Well guys you know what that say about guys with small tanks???😂😂

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Title: Re: My gas tank is so small...
Post by: DougG on April 19, 2021, 09:07:21 AM
Yup...like K says..."My 1400 tour got 120-130 before low fuel light". 
At that point when I fill, it takes between 3.2 and 3.5 gallons.  At about 40 mpg, that's a range of 200 mi. (5.4 gal tank).  I routinely get between 40-45 mpg, depending on how and where I ride.  I may be hallucinating, but I seem to get somewhat better mpg if I fill with 93 alcohol free.  It's hard to tell without further study.

Be well, stay well,
DougG
Title: Re: My gas tank is so small...
Post by: Guzzistajohn on April 19, 2021, 09:10:53 AM
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Nice one Kevlar!


This thread title reminds me of The Carson show. How small is it?
Title: Re: My gas tank is so small...
Post by: kballowe on April 19, 2021, 09:37:07 AM
Don't ya just hate it when ya have a small tank ???

 :boozing: :boozing: :boozing:
Title: Re: My gas tank is so small...
Post by: Ncdan on April 19, 2021, 09:42:26 AM
Don't ya just hate it when ya have a small tank ???

 :boozing: :boozing: :boozing:
Yeah Iíve heard that about you OKIES 🤔
Title: Re: My gas tank is so small...
Post by: JJ on April 19, 2021, 09:44:53 AM
Don't ya just hate it when ya have a small tank ???

 :boozing: :boozing: :boozing:

Yes...or a wife with a "walnut bladder!!" :evil: :bow: :thumb: :boozing: :cool: :grin: :laugh: :rolleyes: :shocked:
Title: Re: My gas tank is so small...
Post by: kballowe on April 19, 2021, 09:49:52 AM
Yeah Iíve heard that about you OKIES 🤔

I'm from Missouri

SHOW ME
Title: Re: My gas tank is so small...
Post by: Ncdan on April 19, 2021, 09:58:11 AM
I'm from Missouri

SHOW ME
Lol, yea I got you confused with the Okies😂😂😂
Title: Re: My gas tank is so small...
Post by: JJ on April 20, 2021, 07:53:04 AM
"My peanut gas tank is so small....but I get over 80 MPG!!" :laugh: :grin: :wink: :shocked: :rolleyes: :huh:


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Title: Re: My gas tank is so small...
Post by: TimmyTheHog on April 20, 2021, 11:41:48 AM
Gotta be honest that I got spoiled with V7's tank.  :boozing:

I know there are bigger one out there but almost none of them are on midsize street bikes.

Now everytime when I look for another bike, I keep on searching for anything that is around 5 gal or more... :boozing:
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Post by: bigbikerrick on April 20, 2021, 12:36:31 PM
Brings back memories of n 98 magna 750. Tank looked huge, but it was all a big shell for the giant air box, for the 4 thirsty carbs. That bike would hit reserve at 80 miles. My wife ran it dry on reserve one time at 120 miles total!What an annoying bike on a tour.
Rick.
Title: Re: My gas tank is so small...
Post by: Wayne Orwig on April 21, 2021, 09:02:04 AM
On my EV, the low fuel light comes on and you better find a filling station. I have run in empty at just over 100 miles, at high speed, into a South Dakota headwind.
My new V85, after a few hundred miles, the low fuel light comes on, and it has about 100 more miles left. Much better.
Title: Re: My gas tank is so small...
Post by: stubbie on April 23, 2021, 08:14:16 PM
I've been riding with a new bunch of guys since November last year. They of course get between 400-450km out of their bikes (Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, Kwaka). So of course I'm constantly asked " Do you need fuel" as the Griso light appears at around 220km. I fill up 3 times some days.  :weiner:
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Post by: SmithSwede on April 23, 2021, 08:27:11 PM
This is one of the subtle, but highly practical, reasons that lead me to the V7 small block.  A good gas tank size.   More like an old BMW Airhead. 

Franky, I wish the V7 tank was even bigger.  More like 6.5 gallons. 
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Post by: et18 on April 23, 2021, 08:34:28 PM
Brings back memories of n 98 magna 750. Tank looked huge, but it was all a big shell for the giant air box, for the 4 thirsty carbs. That bike would hit reserve at 80 miles.

I had a similar bike, an '85 Suzuki Madura 1200.  That bike was on reserve before 75 miles and was dry by 95 miles.  Huge V4, 4 huge carbs and a tiny tank.  Fill up every other day just commuting and maybe 3X on an average Sunday ride.   I sold it to buy a ZG1000 Concours w/ a 300 mile range.
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Post by: Moparnut72 on April 23, 2021, 11:19:47 PM
This is one of the subtle, but highly practical, reasons that lead me to the V7 small block.  A good gas tank size.   More like an old BMW Airhead. 

Franky, I wish the V7 tank was even bigger.  More like 6.5 gallons.
I had a a R75/5 with a 6.3 gal tank. That bike was good for 300 miles between fill ups.
kk
Title: Re: My gas tank is so small...
Post by: Kremmen on April 23, 2021, 11:48:48 PM
Saw this Indian Scout at the local CYCLE GEAR store down in the Valley on Friday.  The owner said his gas tank is so small, he has to carry a spare Roto-PAX gas container with him all the time!!!

He said he is lucky to get 100 miles out of a tank!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :huh: :huh: :huh: Funny...the tank looks much bigger than it actually is... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


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I get 90-110kms out of my Sport1100i. I'm jealous.  :tongue:
Title: Re: My gas tank is so small...
Post by: lucky phil on April 24, 2021, 12:02:52 AM
I get 90-110kms out of my Sport1100i. I'm jealous.  :tongue:
Hasn't a Sport 1100i got a 19 litre tank? If so your bike has some serious tuning problems.

Ciao
Title: Re: My gas tank is so small...
Post by: Kremmen on April 24, 2021, 01:16:51 AM
Hasn't a Sport 1100i got a 19 litre tank? If so your bike has some serious tuning problems.

Yes it does, and yes it does.  :embarrassed: I can get twice that range out of it on a good day but only if it's somewhere like the Nullarbor... :azn:
Title: Re: My gas tank is so small...
Post by: lucky phil on April 24, 2021, 01:36:00 AM
Yes it does, and yes it does.  :embarrassed: I can get twice that range out of it on a good day but only if it's somewhere like the Nullarbor... :azn:

Mind you, fuel economy drops like a stone if you do a lot of short trips with a lot of cold starts and time on the enrichening map. Hows your bike actually run?

Ciao 
Title: Re: My gas tank is so small...
Post by: Kremmen on April 24, 2021, 01:47:25 AM
Mind you, fuel economy drops like a stone if you do a lot of short trips with a lot of cold starts and time on the enrichening map. Hows your bike actually run?

Ciao

Yeah, there's a few variables like that. Quite well provided it's *very* warmed up. It's got a Jefferies MyECU in it which I've yet to properly dial in, but it runs no worse than the OEM unit (which went 'pfffft' in 2012 or so).

I do do too much city riding, so that's on me. I've never actually been able to shove more than about 12l in it even when running on fumes, too. Think I recall other owners being sceptical about the 19l figure.
Title: Re: My gas tank is so small...
Post by: lucky phil on April 24, 2021, 02:59:17 AM
Yeah, there's a few variables like that. Quite well provided it's *very* warmed up. It's got a Jefferies MyECU in it which I've yet to properly dial in, but it runs no worse than the OEM unit (which went 'pfffft' in 2012 or so).

I do do too much city riding, so that's on me. I've never actually been able to shove more than about 12l in it even when running on fumes, too. Think I recall other owners being sceptical about the 19l figure.

Wow there's a big difference between 12 and 19. I must admit I was surprised when I read it was 19 litres as I had a good mental picture of the tank as I like them very much as a shape. I have a Myecu that I've never used as I mastered the Guzzidiag and created my own maps for the Daytona engine in my V11. I'd sell the Myecu if anyone is interested. The problem is it can run well on the Clif unit but be too rich. If you can send me the .bin file for the Myecu I can compare it to a std V11 map and see if its any richer or not.

Ciao