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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: canuck750 on October 25, 2019, 11:02:08 AM
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While in France this past month my wife and I found a very interesting private museum in a suburb of Beaune; Savingny-les-Beaune. Nestled into an aristocrats estate spread out inside two chateau and among the vineyard is an impresive collection of motorcycles, race cars, fire engines, farm equipment and jet fighters, eclectic does not begin the describe the collection. The French aristocrat raced the Abarth cars, Norton and Vincent motorcycles as well as the unique Tiger race bikes.The aristocrat is alive and lives inside one of the chateaus.
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A few pictures of whats inside the buildings and on the grounds, rows and rows of early fighters
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then the fire engines with a side car stretcher carrier
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Farm equipment
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race cars
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and the bikes, these are in two different chalets, a smaller group of about 75 with the race cars
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And in the main collection, probably over 200 bikes in the second chalet on the third floor to boot!
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eclectic does not begin the describe the collection.
Wow! You have that right. :smiley: I've never even heard of much of that stuff. Thanks! :thumb:
I kind of wonder what the original builder would think if he saw all those bikes cluttering up his elegant rooms?
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My gosh!
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Than you for sharing!
Tom
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Wow. Just............... .....wow
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Tully remarkable!
I spent a day there once thanks for the memories, the few pictures I once had have gone missing.....
Lots of jewels hidden on the continent.
:-)
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AS a lover of all things rare and odd, with a special predilection for french bicycles, I have always wished there were some French motos to be seen and ridden... Thanks for sharing, lots of cool stuff!
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Wow!
About half way down there are three photos of something red that looks a lot like a classic Guzzi with a vertical twin engine:
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Do you know what it is? Anyone else know?
Moto
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Dunno, there was not a single Moto Guzzi in the collection but a lot of French bikes I have never seen.
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It must be terrible to worry about all that stuff being neglected.
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Lots of aircraft in pretty poor shape
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plywood fuselages rotting out on these ones
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In the forecourt of the main chalet are parked three modern fighters, I think this one is a F-16?? beside it is what I think is a Tornado, the third one was what I think is a jet trainer
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There was a grey/blue Lewis Something that well of had some inspiration for MG and the MGX design??
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Great Photos Canuck, thanks for taking them and sharing them here! Amazing stop for sure.
Can't seem to quote with my phone for some reason, but in response to Moto's question, I think it's a Benelli Monoalbero 500cc. Albero likely means crankshaft, so single crankshaft I guess.. maybe it's not it, not 100% sure, but the forks look a lot like it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benelli_(motorcycles) (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benelli_(motorcycles))
The Abarth collection is pretty cool. Love those Fiat 600s
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Can't seem to quote with my phone for some reason, but in response to Moto's question, I think it's a Benelli Monoalbero 500cc. Albero likely means crankshaft, so single crankshaft I guess.. maybe it's not it, not 100% sure, but the forks look a lot like it.
Groover,
This is the Benelli, in a photo from the page you cited:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/Benelli_Monalbero_Sport_500_cc_1935.jpg)
It's similar to the Guzzi design, but the Monalbero Sport's motor, as seen in other photos on the internet, has a large overhead camshaft drive on the right side that is missing in the one Canuck saw in the museum:
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RAVyybyFJnI/XGiKcWBO3tI/AAAAAAAAnqk/zqlJjo8bStEc5jgRVPlS68hCu5v8rfe0QCLcBGAs/s1600/1934%2BBenelli%2B500%2B1.JPG)
Still, that's a revelation to see the stylistic similarity of the Benelli and the Guzzi at that time. Thanks for the suggestion.
Moto
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Wow …. that's just plain weird Jim.
:undecided: looking forward to chatting at the next M/G meet.
Ciao
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Amazing, I think the owner is well up there in the who dies with the most toys wins competition
Must look it up next time I'm in France
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Wow, eclectic and eccentric, I guess I'm out of the loop with how these things work, I'm surprised but impressed that if you set your mind to it, you can buy yourself your own F16!
Just the building alone, from the style and apparent construction methods, how many centuries old was that castle/fortress?
I've never been to Europe, but time and history, seem to take on a whole new concept. It must have been a powerful experience to tour through that many different areas.
Kelly
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Albero likely means crankshaft, so single crankshaft I guess..
Albero i camme = camshaft, so monoalbero = single overhead cam
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Thank you for all the photos. I love this kind of stuff :thumb: