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General Category => Bike Builds, Rebuilds And Restorations Only => Topic started by: Dave Swanson on August 05, 2018, 08:15:26 AM
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I made the trip to Southern Illinois to pick up a 1000S from EldoMike a few weeks ago. You may remember Mike's thread titled Sparklehorse 1000S.
http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=96412.msg1525378#msg1525378
It's a nice solid unit with 15,000 miles. It has been sitting in a garage for a number of years and needs TLC before hitting the road.
Here's Mike just after the deal was done.
(https://s20.postimg.cc/f4li23p4d/IMG_3333.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fhcw8a7e1/)
One of my first attempts at a selfie. :)
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I will document going through the bike and getting it roadworthy.
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Dave, good luck with the bike. I've only had two issues with my 93, the Ducati voltage regulator and a seal on the final drive. I did add a set of Wirth springs to address the front end dive, helped but didn't eliminate the problem.
Did you get the original headlight and the black plastic shroud to cover the clocks?
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Did you get the original headlight and the black plastic shroud to cover the clocks?
I think the headlight shell might be original. The missing plastic instrument shroud will be one of the most difficult pieces to find. Other difficult bits to find will be a correct tail light and turn signals.
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I think the headlight shell might be original. The missing plastic instrument shroud will be one of the most difficult pieces to find. Other difficult bits to find will be a correct tail light and turn signals.
The original USA headlight is smaller in diameter than the Lemans I headlight and the trim is chrome. The turn signals are still being reproduced and they are available from Stein-Dinse.
https://www.stein-dinse.biz/Moto-Guzzi/Lighting/Turn-light-Moto-Guzzi/Indicator-for-front-right-or-rear-left-chrome-1000-S-Cali-3::9027.html
Don't remember what the lense looks like, but the bracket is correct.
https://www.stein-dinse.biz/Moto-Guzzi/Lighting/Backlights/Rear-tail-light-T3-California-chrome-with-holder::139934.html
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Thanks much for that info! That will make finding the turn signals easy!
The first order of business was to drain the tank. I could hear gas sloshing around and knew it must have been in there for at least 5 years. This task was made a bit more complicated because there were no keys with the bike.
I carefully removed the pin that retains the seat lock so that I could remove the seat and then the tank. With the tank off the bike you can access the small bolts that retain the locking cover over the gas cap. I pumped 3 gallons of bad gas out and was relieved to find that it hadn't started turning to shellac. I was fully expecting some rust in the tank, but surprise number 2 was a nice rust free tank! How do you spell relief!!
(https://s20.postimg.cc/af4r50uvx/IMG_3438.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6vitf7s61/)
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It's always fun to begin a project like this with some simple tasks that provide immediate reward.
I had asked Mike to leave the bike untouched. Cosmetics were what you would expect from a bike that had been in dry storage for at least 9 years.
(https://s20.postimg.cc/y644na09p/guzzi1000-6.1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/w1jrm6ymx/)
This is the tank after about an hour or two of rubbing with a very fine rubbing compound followed by a coat of wax.
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The instrument panel is made from polished stainless.
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I removed the clocks and sent them to Palo Alto Speedometer Service for refurb. A quick polish of the panel, and cleaning of the idiot lights results in almost instant gratification.
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Nice job polishing up the tank, looks great.
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The 1000S has been put on the side burner while I finish up getting my 1978 XLCH road worthy. It has been sitting for the last 25 years in a pole barn. It was in decent shape but needed to be gone through top to bottom before riding it. After this bike is finished I am giving it to my son and daughter in law. My DIL has a serious itch to learn how to ride. Once the space on my lift is clear I will roll the 1000S on.
(https://s20.postimg.cc/y44p4114d/IMG_3584.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/gquep65t5/)
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Congrats on the 1000S -- one of my favorite Guzzis!
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Please no Harleys,
It makes my butt numbbbbbb.......... ....
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Let the games begin!
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:popcorn:
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I received the instruments back from Palo Alto Speedometer Inc. They did an excellent job!
Before
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After
(https://i.postimg.cc/Z534HLRw/IMG_3669.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qNkPMy2K)
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Very impressive!
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Very impressive!
Expensive, but worth it! :grin:
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Such a fantastic machine. I'm going to have to check out Palo Alto. Those look great.
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Just FYI, I live < 20 minutes from Palo Alto Speedo ... so if anyone ever needs someone to run by there for them, just let me know.
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And they even took 2 tenths of a mile off the odo for you! :boozing:
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Deff will be watching this one.. :popcorn:
Thanks for taking the time to post pics, please keep them coming!
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I pulled the rear wheel off to give it a thorough inspection and clean up before mounting the new rubber.
The aluminum Akront rims were in good shape, but cruddy.
(https://i.postimg.cc/XqgQXn1J/IMG-3710.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZvCrMzSt)
After a couple of hours rubbing out the rims with Autosol, and going over the stainless spokes with 0000 steel wool yielded a good result.
(https://i.postimg.cc/rm19Y8kJ/IMG-3707.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8JCW7gsJ)
A new Akront sticker to replace the old. Also a pleasant surprise - the rear wheel was still very true.
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The uber rare front fender is in perfect condition. It polished up nicely.
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Looking real good Dave, do you use a polishing wheel and compound to get the stainless steel fender to shine up so nice?
If so what colour of polishing stick do you use?
I have tried red and white and can't get my stainless steel parts to shine up as nice.
Thanks
Jim
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Jim, I was able to polish the fender by hand with Autosol. It wasn't much of a challenge as it was in great condition. If it needed a session with a polishing wheel I wouldn't trust my own skills with such a rare piece. I would send it out to Elite Polishing. Steve Langston is a wizard at the polishing wheel!
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Jim, I was able to polish the fender by hand with Autosol. It wasn't much of a challenge as it was in great condition. If it needed a session with a polishing wheel I wouldn't trust my own skills with such a rare piece. I would send it out to Elite Polishing. Steve Langston is a wizard at the polishing wheel!
Thanks Dave
I will try the Autosol on the Benelli rear fender and see if I can get it to shine up, it's quite dull and against the new chrome is shows its age. Kinda how these thing go isn't it, you get one part to look great and then it forces the quality of the rest of the build up a notch.
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I'm constantly in awe of you guys who restore these great bikes. I think I must be made of different stuff, I doubt my ability to dedicate myself sufficiently.
It looks like your bike will be spectacular upon completion without that "just restored" look. I reckon it'll look like it's been owned by you from new and always kept beautifully.
Sort of like "patina without the crap and faded paint" look.
Cannot wait to see the result.... :bow: :thumb:
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I reckon it'll look like it's been owned by you from new and always kept beautifully.
Sort of like "patina without the crap and faded paint" look.
Huzo, Since it will be a rider, and more of a rejuvenation rather than a restoration, that is exactly the look I will be striving for with this one.
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Huzo, Since it will be a rider, and more of a rejuvenation rather than a restoration, that is exactly the look I will be striving for with this one.
Canuck 750's Mk 1 resto was just beyond my comprehension, but yours is a little closer to what I hope I could do.
I have a dead original running Mk 2 that needs a touch up like your 1000 S.
I am inspired by your results.
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: x 50
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Huzo, Since it will be a rider, and more of a rejuvenation rather than a restoration, that is exactly the look I will be striving for with this one.
This 1000S is in too nice of shape and too new to warrant a restoration, that would only lower the value, careful detailing and cleaning is going to give this bike an amazing transformation.
There are so many products out there to restore paint, plastic, aluminum and even chrome that with enough elbow grease an old bike can look great again.
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A bit of good luck and the power of Facebook has resulted in scratching off 2 of the 4 parts needed for this project!
Due to what appears to have been a left low side at one time a number of things were damaged.
The left footpeg bracket was broken and had a fairly sloppy weld repair, although I am sure it wasn't an easy weld job. The brackets are made from cast aluminum and quite brittle. If the bike is dropped you can count on snapping one off.
The turn signals were missing. This ended up being the easy part as Stein Dense still carries the exact units! Thanks blackcat!
The rear brake light housing was replaced with an earlier style. I have found that the 1000S is one of the few bikes made to use this style brake light, of course! :laugh:
The black plastic instrument shroud is missing. This is so rare I may have to resort to having a 3D copy made.
The headlight is not correct. Although the bucket looks like it could be correct and has the right terminals most 1000S' I have seen have a smaller headlight.
The footpeg weld job was below average, and the geometry of the bracket after welding was not correct. I started looking for a replacement bracket immediately, but knew it would be a tall task! The 1000S does not share this bracket with any other model that I know of. The Lemans of the same time frame is close, but no cigar. I had resigned myself to cutting the old weld out, and having it re-welded, but I knew it probably would not result in a bracket I would be happy with.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y9xG6KnQ/IMG-3877.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bDswPMjv)
What a proper 1000S taillight should look like
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What a proper 1000S instrument shroud and headlight should look like.
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The happy news is, I was contacted by a Guzzi enthusiast in Europe that had a set of footpeg brackets and proper taillight. Tracking info states the package has been released by US Customs. I will post pictures upon receipt.
2 of the unobtanium parts are off the list!! :thumb:
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"The black plastic instrument shroud is missing. This is so rare I may have to resort to having a 3D copy made."
I have an extra one or two of those, but I'm not quite willing to sell them, but if you need one to make a copy let me know and I can send it to you.
Because I ride my bike, I removed the front fender and installed V7 Sport fender. A couple of years ago, a pair of NOS fenders showed up on eBay from one seller. From memory, they sold for quite a bit of money.
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Nice!! First Guzzi I ever rode was a 1000S, and I fell in love with it the second I got on it!! Sadly I didnt buy one then, and cant afford one now....
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I have an extra one or two of those, but I'm not quite willing to sell them, but if you need one to make a copy let me know and I can send it to you.
Thanks for the kind offer! If you ever decide to sell one, I am your man! :) I know next to nothing about 3d printed parts, but I have a feeling that the shroud would be difficult to produce and not be robust enough. I could be completely wrong though.
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I received the parts and they are excellent! Footpeg bracket and taillight (and turn signals) scratched off the list.
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I am back to work on the 1000S after a winter hiatus.
This bike belonged to Mark Linkous of Sparklehorse until his death. I thought I would pass a couple of photos of the 1000S while Mark owned it.
Mark perched on the bike.
(https://i.postimg.cc/DyxCyVZ3/guzzi1000.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
This is an on board shot while being ridden by Mark.
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I always like to finish the wheels first. Having the wheels ready to mount feels like a big step in the right direction.
Although the wheels were very crusty I was very impressed with the condition of the rims. There were no hamfisted tire changes in their past. The wheels were also very true and the spokes were consistently tightened.
New rubber, bearings, quite a few hours of cleaning of the wheel components, and a good polish of the spokes and rims resulted in this.
(https://i.postimg.cc/PqDWbkBP/IMG-4463.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wt6RHnxp)
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Looking good, Dave. :thumb:
What's the plan with the seat? Get a whole new cover made? If that one gets tossed, could I get you to toss it my way?
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Looking good, Dave. :thumb:
What's the plan with the seat? Get a whole new cover made? If that one gets tossed, could I get you to toss it my way?
One of the disappointments is the fairly large missing piece of vinyl of the seat cover. I haven't been able to find a suitable cover for it so I will patch it up as good as possible and keep it with the bike.
The Staintune exhaust has it's share of character marks also. The bike was low sided at one time which must have been at a fairly low speed. I had entertained the idea of a completely new Lafranconi setup, but after polishing up the old Stantune I have decided to put it back on the bike with its warts. The flaws on the seat will go right along with the exhaust.
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Seems like there are two alternatives for the seat. Have an upholsterer replace the damaged panel, or reproduce the whole thing. There's a place in England selling replacement covers that will make one. They don't currently offer the 1000S cover - never even heard of the 1000S - but after I described it to them, they said they could do it. Same price as the others - something like 50 GBP.
Or perhaps have a nice leather cover made.
Staintunes don't come cheap! Even Keihan, after exchange rate and shipping, though cheaper, are still pretty expensive. There are guys who repair dents in musical instruments which got me thinking. There must be a way to fix dents in headersand I've got ideas. Mufflers would be more tricky - like cutting out the bad section and repair or replace. Considering how expensive these things are it'd probably be practical repairing them.
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Seems like there are two alternatives for the seat. Have an upholsterer replace the damaged panel, or reproduce the whole thing. There's a place in England selling replacement covers that will make one. They don't currently offer the 1000S cover - never even heard of the 1000S - but after I described it to them, they said they could do it. Same price as the others - something like 50 GBP.
I am curious who you contacted regarding the seat cover? Thanks for checking this out!
I watched a couple of vinyl repair videos on YouTube this morning. The repairs look good, I just don't think it would hold up very well as that is an area of the seat that will see a lot of use.
Although the Staintunes have a few bumps and bruises they are still quite presentable in my opinion. I will be running them as is. That is after a good clean and polish session.
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Any label on the seat that might give a clue as to who made it? In the Morini world, seats were made by Nisa and they still supply new covers in the original style.
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Any label on the seat that might give a clue as to who made it? In the Morini world, seats were made by Nisa and they still supply new covers in the original style.
Charlie, thanks for the idea. I looked the seat over pretty thoroughly but did not see a maker's name anywhere.
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This is the message I got from Brian (dahdah-dit - Ebay seller in the UK). He said he could make one from an old used cover (I don't have one), so I told him it was essentially a V7Sport cover with the front end like the LM3. I'm making a custom pan and foam for mine and need a cover.
Here's his reply.
OK, thanks for the info . We can modify a V7 sport cover to your requirements at no extra cost to you and I could have it back for resale if when you have tried it on the seat , you find it isn't suitable and it is still in good condition of course !!.
Regards Brian
If you have trouble locating him on ebay, get in touch and I'll get it for you.
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The 1000S is such a great looking bike. I like the way you're preserving a cool bike with interesting history.
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Bike is stripped for cleaning and inspection. Since the pictures I have pulled off the clutch/trans housing to inspect the clutch, and check for signs of oil leaks.
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I received my u-joint back from John Chicoine. He does great work for a reasonable price, and excellent turnaround time.
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The clutch plates have very little wear at 7.7 mm thickness, which is consistent with the bike's mileage of 15,000 miles, but were oil soaked. The oil was coming from the transmission side, possibly migrating in from the push-rod. The engine side of the flywheel was bone dry and there is no sign of any oil leaks on the engine side of things.
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I had just about given up finding a correct headlight for the bike. Here are a couple pics of a correct light.
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One evening when searching eBay instead of all the usual search terms I was using such as, Guzzi headlight, and variations I searched on CEV 209 which is the headlight lens. I almost fell off my chair when a complete CEV 209 headlight assembly popped up from a European seller. I couldn't hit the Buy It Now fast enough. The price was reasonable as I would have been prepared to pay at least twice as much or even 3 times. It is a correct unit in all regards except the trim ring is painted instead of chrome, and the shell is flat black instead of gloss black. Both "issues" are an easy fix.
The seller also had an additional NOS CEV 209 light and a trim ring. I also bought them as well and will send this ring out for chrome just in case it gets lost at the bottom of a chrome tank I will still have another.
This was a HUGE win for this bike. I am stoked!
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(https://i.postimg.cc/YqdRssPc/1000s-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D8b1WBF5)
(https://i.postimg.cc/fbqJ4xNR/1000s-4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jWNsPn2p)
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Before and after...
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Thrasher magazine did a photo shoot and article on Sparklehorse years ago. You can see the 1000S in the background.
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Everything eventually comes up on Ebay, great find!
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As pretty as the motor is going to get. I spent the day scrubbing it. Looks good, but not pristine. It will go right along with the "rejuvenation" concept.
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It didn't look that bad in the photos, so it seems odd tearing it all down with as few miles as it has on it.
But I guess photos do lie cause it's looking much better now.
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When adjusting the valve lash I was happy to see that no ham fisted gorillas had been in there before. :thumb:
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Also I am forever grateful to the individual that saw fit to add head guards. When the bike went down on it's left side the guard performed it's sacrificial work!
(https://i.postimg.cc/rspp3Fhx/guzzi1000-12-1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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I had a spare head guard that was painted black. I put it in stripper for a couple of hours (that paint was tough) and then gave it a good polish.
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Looking good Dave. Keep up the good work :thumb:
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New clutch going in. The old clutch exhibited very little wear but the friction plates were oil soaked so I thought it was best to replace.
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The stuff that dreams are made of! The headlight was delivered today. It came from Greece. Extra points if you know the movie this famous line is from. :laugh:
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Going back together! The fun really begins now!
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Frame scrubbed clean with a coat of wax, back on!
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Beautiful! Coming along nicely. :drool:
:popcorn:
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The stuff that dreams are made of! The headlight was delivered today. It came from Greece. Extra points if you know the movie this famous line is from. :laugh:
Just saw it today - Maltese Falcon. The line is a paraphrase from Shakespeare - Act IV, The Tempest
jdg
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Just saw it today - Maltese Falcon. The line is a paraphrase from Shakespeare - Act IV, The Tempest
jdg
Yes, the Maltese Falcon is one of my favorite Bogart films.
I am a fan. My T shirt.
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Big day today! Front end back on. I rebuilt the forks with new FAC dampers an Wirth progressive springs.
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Beautiful work, please keep the updates coming! Appreciate the effort to record & post
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She is back on 2 wheels!
One hiccup is the centerstand. Mike donated it to the project when I picked up the bike, which was nice of him. I knew it wasn't the correct unit but was hoping it would work. Ends up it is just too different from the correct unit in a number of ways, so it is coming off the bike. The good news is I found a correct stand in Germany. I should have it in a couple weeks.
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I have been struggling, cussing, and discussing bleeding the bloody linked brake system on the 1000S! Oh what fun! :boozing: The fact that the whole system was thoroughly cleaned and bone dry when I started the bleeding process makes it quite a challenge. I have used the search feature to find all the sure fire methods others have used on the forum and tried most of them, but no love so far. Out of desperation I ordered a new rear master cylinder today as the original despite having a new rebuild kit in it just doesn't seem to be doing the job. I will report back on if the new master cylinder helped.
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And for those of you that didn't know, a 1000S was a central character in the movie Girl Meets Bike. The main protagonist, Kat was ably played by Ruth Menard. One of Kat's love interests in the movie is a 1000S.
Who could blame her! :)
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I have been struggling, cussing, and discussing bleeding the bloody linked brake system on the 1000S! Oh what fun! :boozing: The fact that the whole system was thoroughly cleaned and bone dry when I started the bleeding process makes it quite a challenge. I have used the search feature to find all the sure fire methods others have used on the forum and tried most of them, but no love so far. Out of desperation I ordered a new rear master cylinder today as the original despite having a new rebuild kit in it just doesn't seem to be doing the job. I will report back on if the new master cylinder helped.
(https://i.postimg.cc/R0SB33wH/IMG-4728-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mP5qJgXL)
I just rebuilt the rear master cylinder on my Morini last evening. It too acted as if the rebuild didn't "take" until I bled just the master cylinder first. Removed the hose to the caliper, screwed in a fitting and hose that was long enough to reach the (remote) reservoir. Pumped the pedal until fluid flowed from the master cylinder to the reservoir. Hooked up the brake line and bled normally from there on.
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This movie! :thumb:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkrexqIKmMs
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Charlie, I want to thank you for your suggestion. I tried it out right away and it proved to me without a doubt that the problem was my master cylinder. The old M/S would not pull fluid like it should from the reservoir.
I received my new master cylinder today. I bled the rear master cylinder per the method Charlie recommended, which is dead easy. All you need to do is disconnect the line from the master cylinder to proportioning valve at the proportioning valve, take the end of the line and submerge it in the reservoir and pump until all bubbles are gone. I could tell the difference immediately and then knew that I had been beating my head against the wall all weekend struggling with the old crap M/S.
(https://i.postimg.cc/nrq0hhD0/IMG-4728-1-2.png) (https://postimg.cc/m12QdRVH)
After re-connecting the line you then bleed the proportioning valve, rear caliper, and then front caliper. With a well functioning master cylinder it only took about 20 minutes to have all bubbles in the system disappear and be rewarded by a nice firm pedal!! Whew!
A little YouTube video for proof. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRHfMeAaJD8
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I checked the carbs over and found them to be in exceptional condition. There was no corrosion from long term fuel exposure. I just gave them a light cleaning and installed them and the throttle and fast idle cables today.
(https://i.postimg.cc/TPVBKHTT/IMG-4746.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DWzxD6WN)
(https://i.postimg.cc/W4LQbPL9/IMG-4748-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/874yt9CW)
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Looking real good :thumb:
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Having a 2nd unrestored 1000S for a reference bible has been an invaluable resource for the rejuvenation of the Sparklehorse 1000S. I almost feel guilty about it. :wink:
(https://i.postimg.cc/tgyhk0Bf/IMG-4765-3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v4qg8KFL)
(https://i.postimg.cc/LszH3wJJ/IMG-4765-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kVg3njFC)
(https://i.postimg.cc/B62f0KTt/IMG-4779-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0M5BGrHq)
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Having a 2nd unrestored 1000S for a reference bible has been an invaluable resource for the rejuvenation of the Sparklehorse 1000S. I almost feel guilty about it. :wink:
(https://i.postimg.cc/tgyhk0Bf/IMG-4765-3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v4qg8KFL)
And here I was, just beginning to like you. :shocked:
jdg
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The eagerly awaited center stand was delivered today! I am stoked!
It obviously sat on a shelf for a LONG time.
(https://i.postimg.cc/5ytPLnkK/IMG-E4786-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Kkdryrbt)
(https://i.postimg.cc/P5vRSVfB/IMG-4787-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qN0wRL3L)
I also bought a new set of springs and foot rubber that they had is stock for the stand.
This was a huge event for the 1000S!
(https://i.postimg.cc/Bvxw08Kp/IMG-4789-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WD17m1Sq)
(https://i.postimg.cc/sXm6MtKZ/IMG-4794-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BL8cy7rq)
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jdgretz - Yeah, know what you mean. There were only like sixty or seventy in the USA originally (wonder how many are left?) and he's got TWO of them.
Dave - any news on the seat? I've found a place in England that will make a copy of your cover for about 50 GBP. Here's their non ebay address: oldschool covers <oldschoolcovers@outlook.com>
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Dave - any news on the seat? I've found a place in England that will make a copy of your cover for about 50 GBP. Here's their non ebay address: oldschool covers <oldschoolcovers@outlook.com>
I haven't done anything about the seat. Thanks for the email! I will contact him.
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I polished the un-obtainium 1000S Staintunes to my satisfaction. I didn't want them to look brand new. If I had wanted that look I would have sent them to a pro. I am happy with the result. The level of shine and remaining warts are in keeping with the bike.
(https://i.postimg.cc/sghC1N9w/IMG-4831-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Bj4VVNzK)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y2g3q40c/IMG-4829-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0rkmVy7Z)
The Staintune exhaust system is very well made! I appreciate the extra pains they took to emboss their muffler clamps. And check out the flare on each side of the clamp. This really aids in the ease of sliding on the clamps. First class!
(https://i.postimg.cc/prqt3Pmq/IMG-4837-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D4JDXkdX)
I have heard they sound great. I am really looking forward to hearing them this summer.
(https://i.postimg.cc/x802sX1X/IMG-4834-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dkSp3tdF)
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I've got staintunes on some of the airheads and they sound like stock cans but just slightly louder.
There's an ulterior motive getting you to send the seat cover - I want one too. I'm bad. Make sure they return the original - I'd definitely hang onto it just in case.
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I have made a decision regarding the seat. I am keeping the original cover for these reasons.
1 - It's only original once.
2 - The seat is in great shape except for the tears.
3 - Sending the irreplaceable seat cover off to parts unknown, would worry me to death until its return.
4 - And last but not least - Mark Linkous' butt graced this seat for quite a few miles! He loved this bike.
I used Gorilla brand "duck" tape. It sticks like crazy and can always be replaced.
I am calling it good. Sorry to disappoint, Wirespokes.
(https://i.postimg.cc/3xCX2rxb/IMG_4852_(2).jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qNq6TTn8)
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I have always wondered what the back story was regarding the light road rash on the left side of the bike.
(https://i.postimg.cc/9QwSQvrW/IMG-4871-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JsmKTYNg)
I have been in touch with Mark Linkous' old riding buddy and he told me the story. Around 2003 they were riding when it started to rain hard. They rode to an overpass to park under. Just before Mark was completely stopped he dumped the bike in the gravel. Mystery solved!
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Gorgeous. Great work!
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I decided to spring for one of Greg Benders fabulous wiring harnesses for the 1000S. My old harness was in fairly good shape, but had a few areas that needed help.
I was reading through Greg's website and he mentioned he was looking for a Series 2 1000S wiring harness to copy as he hadn't had the opportunity yet. My harnesses were off the bike, therefore it made complete sense to send it to Greg so has the opportunity to copy it. I will end up with a more reliable wiring setup for the bike. Win win I would say.
I started wiring over the weekend. The workmanship of the harnesses is absolutely top notch!!
(https://i.postimg.cc/dtLN5zR8/IMG_4869_(2).jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JGCQnY2n)
Quite a bit to it actually.
(https://i.postimg.cc/HktBqLF7/Guzzi1000-S-Series2-Wiring.png) (https://postimg.cc/75f37qHx)
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I decided to spring for one of Greg Benders fabulous wiring harnesses for the 1000S. My old harness was in fairly good shape, but had a few areas that needed help.
I was reading through Greg's website and he mentioned he was looking for a Series 2 1000S wiring harness to copy as he hadn't had the opportunity yet. My harnesses were off the bike, therefore it made complete sense to send it to Greg so has the opportunity to copy it. I will end up with a more reliable wiring setup for the bike. Win win I would say.
I started wiring over the weekend. The workmanship of the harnesses is absolutely top notch!!
(https://i.postimg.cc/dtLN5zR8/IMG_4869_(2).jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JGCQnY2n)
Quite a bit to it actually.
Greg Bender is a Guzzi treasure!
You are going above and beyond with this rejuvenation, :thumb:
(https://i.postimg.cc/HktBqLF7/Guzzi1000-S-Series2-Wiring.png) (https://postimg.cc/75f37qHx)
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I am in the home stretch!
I can't say enough good things about Greg Bender's wiring harnesses - perfection! Everything worked perfectly right out of the chute. I am pleased to report that I made no errors during the hookup due in no small part to having a "reference" 1000S a few feet away!
Instruments go in tomorrow. Then I will add some gas and fire it up!
(https://i.postimg.cc/7PXL5WzC/IMG-4907-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JtD8gKPm)
(https://i.postimg.cc/J4nzZ53p/IMG-4908-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4nDGTtSc)
(https://i.postimg.cc/CLQLNnmS/IMG-4909-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6yCX63km)
(https://i.postimg.cc/x1XqD3cX/IMG-4905-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3kH32pjh)
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After a very intense weekend of work the 1000S is on the road and running great. I hurriedly got it running last night, but tonight I spent some quality time with my Carbtune Pro and the bike is running even better. The engine pulls hard! It doesn't take much time to get up to 90 mph, and it handles very well. I am stoked! The only tasks left are doing a bit of fiberglass repair to the housing for the clocks I am thrilled to have gotten from Tom and send the headlight trim ring out for chrome. This has been a most rewarding project!
(https://i.postimg.cc/Ls5RyWzq/IMG-4942-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3ksPNnf7)
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It looks immaculate Dave! Congrats with the completion of the project! It is definitely a good feeling getting the bike on the road for the first time!
And great pictures all the way through! Thanks for sharing!
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Wonderful job. That 1000S has always been my favorite. I doubt I could put the mileage on that like I do on the Norge or Goldwing, but damn, that's a good looking bike.
jdg
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Thanks for all the nice comments. I am taking it out on a proper ride for the first time tomorrow. Looking forward to that!
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I am happy to report that the 1000S performed perfectly on its first real shakedown ride! The fueling was perfect. The bike handles the twisties very well. The sound of the Staintunes is glorious! Not a drop of anything to be seen from the bike. I loaned my Griso to a riding buddy I am trying to convert to MG. He really liked the Griso.
We had a post ride toast to Mark Linkous. A perfect day.
(https://i.postimg.cc/wv1t3Vfs/IMG-4971-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gXPcTvPY)
(https://i.postimg.cc/wvn1NmZ4/IMG-4978-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2bFjRVzn)
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The last piece of the 1000S puzzle was installing the shroud for the clocks that I got from Tom - blackcat.
My fiberglass repair to the shroud left a bit to be desired, but it looks pretty darn good installed on the bike. I am happy.
(https://i.postimg.cc/wBqhRR7z/IMG-4983-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LJWqrXtQ)
(https://i.postimg.cc/pLYfdJVk/IMG-4985-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PCJp3Zw8)
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Congrats on a rebuild well done!
And I love your Griso! I definitely have to get one of those as my next bike! :laugh:
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Here is a short video of the 1000S starting up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkLFxVlf-3o&feature=youtu.be
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Great job on your 1000S. It looks great! I would like to suggest an update for the bike.I have owned a 91 1000S since new and have had great fun with it over the years. Recently I added a Browns side stand to replace the marginal side stand on mine.I cut off the Browns BMW bracket and my shop guy made a plate to bolt it to the mounts where the original stand mounted. Instant great side stand that is easy to deploy and has the bike secure on the stand. Most BMW airhead friendly shops have or can get the Browns side stand for 81-84 Aieheads.I have no worries about parking on the side stand now and it can be returned to original with undoing two nuts1
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Great job on your 1000S. It looks great! I would like to suggest an update for the bike.I have owned a 91 1000S since new and have had great fun with it over the years. Recently I added a Browns side stand to replace the marginal side stand on mine.I cut off the Browns BMW bracket and my shop guy made a plate to bolt it to the mounts where the original stand mounted. Instant great side stand that is easy to deploy and has the bike secure on the stand. Most BMW airhead friendly shops have or can get the Browns side stand for 81-84 Aieheads.I have no worries about parking on the side stand now and it can be returned to original with undoing two nuts1
Thanks for that. It sounds like a good solution.
The stock sidestand is certainly not confidence inspiring, but I don't think it will fail. Since it makes me a bit nervous I usually just deploy the centerstand.
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That's a sharp looking green&black.
Are the mirrors original or did you find something similar?
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That's a sharp looking green&black.
Are the mirrors original or did you find something similar?
Those look like the mirrors from my Norge, only painted black. Similar, but not quite like the ones on the Piaggion BV350 as well.
jdg
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That's a sharp looking green&black.
Are the mirrors original or did you find something similar?
The original mirrors are chrome and rectangular. I thought these look appropriate. If I ever find originals I will replace them.
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I can't find originals for my V65 and I agree these mirrors look decent.
Do you recall where you got them?
Thanks!
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I can't find originals for my V65 and I agree these mirrors look decent.
Do you recall where you got them?
Thanks!
https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/bike-master-metric-mirror
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The last piece of the 1000S puzzle was installing the shroud for the clocks that I got from Tom - blackcat.
My fiberglass repair to the shroud left a bit to be desired, but it looks pretty darn good installed on the bike. I am happy.
(https://i.postimg.cc/wBqhRR7z/IMG-4983-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LJWqrXtQ)
(https://i.postimg.cc/pLYfdJVk/IMG-4985-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PCJp3Zw8)
Dave,
Looks good. If I was a better man, I'd sell you the one I have on the shelf but I just can't. If Guzziowner or Leafman posts news of my departure, contact my wife and she might be able to send it on.
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Although the NOS headlight assembly was correct, the finishes were not.
(https://i.postimg.cc/zX6gfngL/IMG-4655-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nCKzR9TZ)
I had the trim ring chromed - they did a very nice job of retaining the CEV engraving, and I had the bucket painted gloss black.
(https://i.postimg.cc/vTCbV0Z6/IMG_5823_(2).jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SYLB078y)
(https://i.postimg.cc/BvP556pL/IMG_5821_(2).jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jWKJtRGt)
Now I can call it done!!
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Your bike is now my wallpaper on the computer. Thanks.
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Hi Dave,
Congratulations with the rejuvenation of your 1000S. I am a big fan of the 1000S. May I ask your attention for some details that are often overlooked during a repair work? Some bolts and nuts are not the right model. For example, the bolts of the instrument holder must be black. Some bolts and nuts on your motorcycle are different from the original, namely on the headlight, the exhaust mounting and the passenger bracket next to the seat. The handle rubbers should be from Ariete. I still come across them sometimes in Italy. The mirrors are no longer available from the original supplier, but copies are easy to find on eBay and look very similar to the original.
To clarify, I have taken some pictures today of the details that I want to draw your attention to. The photos are of an unrestored and unmodified Moto Guzzi 1000S that is still owned by the first owner.
Cheers, Daan
(https://i.ibb.co/47qg73H/IMG-20200111-113147.jpg) (https://ibb.co/47qg73H) (https://i.ibb.co/SPZ3ZFV/IMG-20200111-111646.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SPZ3ZFV) (https://i.ibb.co/p40P2Rg/IMG-20200111-113050.jpg) (https://ibb.co/p40P2Rg) (https://i.ibb.co/DbSyCCn/IMG-20200111-112802.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DbSyCCn) (https://i.ibb.co/dM5Rvw8/IMG-20200111-112707.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dM5Rvw8) (https://i.ibb.co/6Z084nh/IMG-20200111-112016.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6Z084nh) (https://i.ibb.co/qpGypM5/IMG-20200111-111948.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qpGypM5) (https://i.ibb.co/ftfQY5V/IMG-20200111-111925.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ftfQY5V)
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Daan, thank you very much for all of the great pictures! Congratulations on a very good first post on the WG forum! Welcome. Please introduce yourself on the general forum.
Regarding the instrument bolts. They have been replaced with black oxide bolts.
(https://i.postimg.cc/0jyDzMkN/thumbnail-IMG-6176.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5YD6GtFc)
Both of my 1000S have had hex head bolts for attaching the headlight. Since my other 1000S (recently sold) is a 1200 mile original as it rolled off the line, I am assuming that different hardware was used for the headlight bolts during the production run.
My had grips are the closest thing I could find, but now that you have let me know the grips were made by Ariete, I have a chance to find correct ones! I did not know the manufacturer's name, Thank you!
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Daan, djkid thought my 1000S needed a correct set of Ariete grips. Daan was going to make a trip to Italy in February and and offered to attempt to procure a set of these rare Arietes with hole for bar end weights from a source he knew of in Milan. With much persistence, phone calls, and emails, Daan was successful. Then the - lockdown happened and he was on an evacuation flight back to the Netherlands with Ariete grips in hand! After more than a month in transit they arrived today and of course are perfect!
How do you thank someone who went through all of that to ensure that a 1000S many thousands of miles away that is owned by someone he did not know has the correct hand grips...
My hat is off to you Daan! :bow:
(https://i.postimg.cc/DZkbFyVw/IMG-6596.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kVs5vCX0)
The 1000S will soon be wearing the correct grips! I never thought I would see that day. Very cool!
The winter resting spot for my 1000S
(https://i.postimg.cc/qqHcmxBQ/IMG-6599-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qhQCqn3C)
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You are welcome :grin:
Daan, djkid thought my 1000S needed a correct set of Ariete grips. Daan was going to make a trip to Italy in February and and offered to attempt to procure a set of these rare Arietes with hole for bar end weights from a source he knew of in Milan. With much persistence, phone calls, and emails, Daan was successful. Then the - lockdown happened and he was on an evacuation flight back to the Netherlands with Ariete grips in hand! After more than a month in transit they arrived today and of course are perfect!
How do you thank someone who went through all of that to ensure that a 1000S many thousands of miles away that is owned by someone he did not know has the correct hand grips...
My hat is off to you Daan!
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Great stories and restorations happening here :thumb:
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That's one awesome restoration Dave! :thumb:
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The cosmetic damage to the left Staintune has always bothered me. On a lark I thought about asking Staintune if they could make another 1000S exhaust system. I fully expected them to say no, but was very surprised that they said they could make a set for me! It was a bit expensive but will be worth it. It will be finished in 1 week. I ordered it a month ago.
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Daan, djkid thought my 1000S needed a correct set of Ariete grips. Daan was going to make a trip to Italy in February and and offered to attempt to procure a set of these rare Arietes with hole for bar end weights from a source he knew of in Milan. With much persistence, phone calls, and emails, Daan was successful. Then the - lockdown happened and he was on an evacuation flight back to the Netherlands with Ariete grips in hand! After more than a month in transit they arrived today and of course are perfect!
How do you thank someone who went through all of that to ensure that a 1000S many thousands of miles away that is owned by someone he did not know has the correct hand grips...
My hat is off to you Daan! :bow:
Great story! Thank you Daan! (and Dave) I've also had help from some people I've only met through WG. :thumb:
Cool thing about Staintune too!
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The Staintunes are here! BEAUTIFUL!!!
(https://i.postimg.cc/NG4mGCGk/IMG-7202.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7b5fmV25)
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Dave, when you get a chance can you post a video of the sound? Thanks.
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Dave, when you get a chance can you post a video of the sound? Thanks.
Short but sweet
https://youtu.be/MkLFxVlf-3o