New Yamaha XSR700 a Ducati Scrambler beater?

[rocker59]

Sorry, but it's one ugly POS.

And, more proof that the Japanese OEMs just don't "get it".

[bratman2]

Another XS1 owner. Mine was the orange 71 XS1B I believe. My first very own bike. I wouldn't mine owning one. Just can't really justify any more vehicles.

[Yukonica]

Not sure I like this new style, the radiator is kinda big and dominating the look of the bike.  Also some other pictures from your link kinda remind me of a steampunk overall look to the bike, very busy.  Now lets talk about the second picture  .

http://wildguzzi.com/forum/Smileys/default/1.gif

Mirrored your thoughts as soon as I opened the thread.

[Lannis]

I sort of like the bike, but I'd never buy one just because of the SO-cool-looking dude they're using to model it.   Obviously not meant for me!

I hate stupid advertising.

Lannis

[Thunderbutt]

What is it with Manufacturers these days?  Are they trying to save money by not designing anything that remotely resembles a rear fender/tail assembly.  And that passenger portion of the seat?  If I told my wife she had to sit on that for an afternoon ride she would have two words for me, and they wouldn't be "I love you"!  To my eyes the headlight is to small and sticks out too far, the fuel tank looks like it was hammered out with a chop axe and the engine is an oversized lump of machinery stuck between a swing arm that looks like it came off a drag bike and a set of front forks off a 350cc bike.  And again, Flat black? Ugh.
I do like the wheels and wave rotors for the brakes. 

[bad Chad]

I actually think it looks pretty good the more I see of it, but that radiator has to get some paint on it.

And wow, check out their promotional video, you couldn't make it more gehy if you tried!

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2015/07/yamaha-introduces-2016-xsr700-retro-design-built-on-fz-07-platform/

[LowRyter]

The Duc and Yammi might be called scramblers, I think they're more like Street Trackers.  The big front tires and upright riding position makes them look like Flat Track racers. 

[BRIO]

If you want a scrambler, buy a KLR. Form follows function, get it the wrong way around and all you have is a short lived fashion accessory. In this case a Japanese fashion accessory. In my opinion  the Japanese are very good at no-nonsense and terrible at emotional products like these.

[Lcarlson]

Having owned a 70's XS 650, I see nothing of that bike in this fugly mashup. Ducati has nothing to worry about.

[steven c]

 I also had an XS650 a 77 ,rode it all over NE and I can't see where the inspiration came from. So for looks I'll take the 77 but for riding I think I would take this over my old XS!

[LongRanger]

I've seen very few new bike designs in the past few years that have excited me, let alone been compelling enough to pull money from my wallet. Yes, there have been some exceptions, but for the most part, I think today's designs (mostly from the Japanese manufacturers) are hideous, this Yamaha not excluded. Someday I hope this motorcycle-as-a-fashion-statement nonsense will come to an end, but I'm not holding my breath!

[cruzziguzzi]

OK - since the general consensus is that the inspiration for this rolling wart is the XS650... I have this to say.

My name is Todd, and I'm an XS650 "Special" owner. Though I haven't had an XS650 for 30 years now, I've come to know that one never really does cease to be an XS 650 owner. In fact one always teeters on the edge of a possible re-lapse. Each time I see one in photos, statically sitting on a  stand or worse, should I see one idling and jiggling on the verge of taking off on its own... I feel that old, barely controllable draw, back to its paradoxical presentation of; odd-standard, innovative-retro, conventional and yet quirky presence.

Sure and I've been deep in the closet over my particular 650 being a "Special", still, I remain unbowed and further acknowledge a long unfulfilled desire for a "Midnight Special"!

There, I've said it, it's electronically locked into the AlGore etherpermanence for ever - never to be denied.

Whew... That's a load off.

Todd.

[Penderic]

The design looks really confusing to my eye, with all those different shapes, tubes and pipes and no visual theme to tie it together - except for the lovely (cough cough) flat black paint job.


I think I can see one!

[cruzziguzzi]

The design looks really confusing to my eye, with all those different shapes, tubes and pipes and no visual theme to tie it together - except for the lovely (cough cough) flat black paint job.


I think I can see one!

By golly - I wonder how many times I've stood in the place this photo was taken from.

One of my favorite haunts in all of Maricopa County! Oddly - that dry-van on the left has a bunch of XS and Virago engines spilling out of it.

Todd.

[nunzio]

The Duc and Yammi might be called scramblers, I think they're more like Street Trackers.  The big front tires and upright riding position makes them look like Flat Track racers.

I gave up on hipsters calling something what it really was, when I found out that I was NOT looking for chicken wire...I was looking for poultry netting!! 

[Chuck in Indiana]

The design looks really confusing to my eye, with all those different shapes, tubes and pipes and no visual theme to tie it together - except for the lovely (cough cough) flat black paint job.

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That thing's horrible. I agree completely. What were they thinkin? Scrambler?? I don't see no steenkin scrambler.. gottla at least have high pipes for water crossings.

[slopokes]

   that radiator is bigger than the one on the mack truck I drive lol

[bad Chad]

OK - since the general consensus is that the inspiration for this rolling wart is the XS650... I have this to say.

My name is Todd, and I'm an XS650 "Special" owner. Though I haven't had an XS650 for 30 years now, I've come to know that one never really does cease to be an XS 650 owner. In fact one always teeters on the edge of a possible re-lapse. Each time I see one in photos, statically sitting on a  stand or worse, should I see one idling and jiggling on the verge of taking off on its own... I feel that old, barely controllable draw, back to its paradoxical presentation of; odd-standard, innovative-retro, conventional and yet quirky presence.

Sure and I've been deep in the closet over my particular 650 being a "Special", still, I remain unbowed and further acknowledge a long unfulfilled desire for a "Midnight Special"!

There, I've said it, it's electronically locked into the AlGore etherpermanence for ever - never to be denied.

Whew... That's a load off.
,Todd.

Did you eat some mushrooms before you wrote that?  Nothing wrong with it either way, but it would help me to understand where you were coming from, if I new you were high off your gourd.

[cruzziguzzi]

Did you eat some mushrooms before you wrote that?  Nothing wrong with it either way, but it would help me to understand where you were coming from, if I new you were high off your gourd.

OK, sure... go with that.

Todd.

[jlburgess]

I like it a lot! It's something new from Japan hasn't been offered so much recently. they are extremely good at upgrading incrementally on sportbikes cruisers you name it but this is just a bike that you can ride all around without getting  a huge ticket. I would definitely be in line for one except that I have the doorsoduro 750 that pretty much covers that area.

[AGRO!]

The design looks really confusing to my eye, with all those different shapes, tubes and pipes and no visual theme to tie it together - except for the lovely (cough cough) flat black paint job.


I think I can see one!

This pic makes me feel sad😫

[jas67]

Sorry, but it's one ugly POS.

I agree.   I'd rather have the FZ-07 that it is derived from.    I've ridden them, they're a good ride, but, yes, the FZ-07 is sort of ugly too.   This new model makes it uglier.

And, more proof that the Japanese OEMs just don't "get it".

Not always:

[Lcarlson]

But the Kawasaki W650 was just a blatant -- and admitted -- Bonneville knock-off, not an original design.

[cruzziguzzi]

But the Kawasaki W650 was just a blatant -- and admitted -- Bonneville knock-off, not an original design.

I figure the W650 wanted to tap into contemporary Bonnie success but the W650 goes back to the W1 of 1965 which was a bit of a BSA clone if anything. Then, the W650 had a bunch of its own thinking involved.

This subtractive XSR seems to merely be an FZ07(MZ?) with not even tenuous connections to its supposed inspiration, the original XS.

Todd.

[Lannis]

But the Kawasaki W650 was just a blatant -- and admitted -- Bonneville knock-off, not an original design.

Not Bonneville, BSA A10 Golden Flash ..... and yes, an admitted knock-off.

[jbell]

Not sure I like this new style, the radiator is kinda big and dominating the look of the bike.  Also some other pictures from your link kinda remind me of a steampunk overall look to the bike, very busy.  Now lets talk about the second picture  .

Yup.

[LowRyter]

Not Bonneville, BSA A10 Golden Flash ..... and yes, an admitted knock-off.

BSA Kaw knock off, now where have I heard about that before?

[Kentktk]

One more example of why Guzzi needs to get more than a measly 38hp from the V7 as the Yamaha is rated 73hp with 2 cylinders and the almost the same displacement

[canuguzzi]

One more example of why Guzzi needs to get more than a measly 38hp from the V7 as the Yamaha is rated 73hp with 2 cylinders and the almost the same displacement

I wonder how many people know or care how much HP their engine is making? The Yamaha will feel like a Yamaha and all the HP in the world won't change that.

[kevdog3019]

I wonder how many people know or care how much HP their engine is making? The Yamaha will feel like a Yamaha and all the HP in the world won't change that.

Exactly!!  Figures are figures and they don't give you a true perspective of how things function.  Rather shallow thinking IMO.