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Re: Zero SR/S
« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2020, 04:17:00 PM »
Hydrogen makes a lot more sense at for at least the next decade or two,(or three), 'cause it would interface with existing reciprocating  engines which have been highly developed and have vast infrastructure for maintence.
Electric has somewhat of a "cult" following .

I've been investing in this tech for some time,(stock), and guessing it will be a winner.

Time will tell.

You don't think electric will expand?  I think it has early adopters, but a cult following only time will tell. 

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Re: Zero SR/S
« Reply #31 on: February 22, 2020, 05:50:51 PM »
Hydrogen makes a lot more sense at for at least the next decade or two,(or three), 'cause it would interface with existing reciprocating  engines which have been highly developed and have vast infrastructure for maintence.
Electric has somewhat of a "cult" following .

I've been investing in this tech for some time,(stock), and guessing it will be a winner.

Time will tell.

You're investing in Hydrogen but think EVs are a "cult following". 

It's hard to get outta the way of all those hydrogen cars on the road, I get it.
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Re: Zero SR/S
« Reply #32 on: February 22, 2020, 06:18:52 PM »
You're investing in Hydrogen but think EVs are a "cult following". 

It's hard to get outta the way of all those hydrogen cars on the road, I get it.


No you don't.

I have invested in hydrogen technology for many uses, not just vehicles, in my opinion will prove to be better than electric in may applications.

Do I detect a bit of cynicism?

Are you a Tesla stockholder?

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Re: Zero SR/S
« Reply #33 on: February 22, 2020, 06:41:56 PM »

No you don't.

I have invested in hydrogen technology for many uses, not just vehicles, in my opinion will prove to be better than electric in may applications.

Do I detect a bit of cynicism?

Are you a Tesla stockholder?

:-)

I'd love to look into hydrogen stuff but it seems they would have more of a problem getting fueling stations out there than the EV companies have.  After all if you need a Tesla charging station you can put one pretty much anywhere electricity is available but a hydrogen refuel station?   

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Re: Zero SR/S
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Re: Zero SR/S
« Reply #34 on: February 22, 2020, 07:11:26 PM »
I hear you but hopefully hydrogen will become as easy to transport and store as petro products.

Hydrogen should be much cleaner to produce. Li nining and transport along with battery manufacturing process(s) are dirty business.

I probably will not live to see what comes out the winner but am betting on hydrogen.

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Re: Zero SR/S
« Reply #35 on: February 22, 2020, 08:00:32 PM »
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Li nining and transport along with battery manufacturing process(s) are dirty business.

That's a fact, but we may be seeing the start of the demise of Li batteries already. Graphite is about 6X more efficient. The market will shake out the winners.
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Re: Zero SR/S
« Reply #36 on: February 22, 2020, 08:02:10 PM »

No you don't.

I have invested in hydrogen technology for many uses, not just vehicles, in my opinion will prove to be better than electric in may applications.

Do I detect a bit of cynicism?

Are you a Tesla stockholder?

:-)

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Re: Zero SR/S
« Reply #37 on: February 22, 2020, 08:16:51 PM »
 If I could find a transformer that could handle my *Fusion Generator in a coffee can* all of this would be moot .

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Re: Zero SR/S
« Reply #38 on: February 22, 2020, 08:31:09 PM »

Elon 2024!

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Re: Zero SR/S
« Reply #39 on: February 23, 2020, 10:03:48 AM »
That's a fact, but we may be seeing the start of the demise of Li batteries already. Graphite is about 6X more efficient. The market will shake out the winners.

Yeah, I've been watching the SAE papers on graphene and it has a lot of potential to make Li obsolete..but

It (at this point) still has to be mined and large capacity batteries are heavy and have a cycle problem and have to be "recycled" .

" Graphene is the strongest mineral ever discovered, with 40 times the strength of diamond. It is more effective as a conductor of heat and electricity than graphite.

Graphene is capable of transferring electricity 140 times faster than lithium, while being 100 times lighter than aluminium. This means it could increase the power density of a standard Li-ion battery by 45%. "

At this point being developed for cell phones but larger batteries will likely follow.

(Published SAE stuff)

I still like the idea of a clean burning fuel or a power cell instead of a storage device. I think its more likely to happen in my lifetime.

The market for electric vehicles is limited to urban dwellers  IMHO.

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Re: Zero SR/S
« Reply #40 on: February 27, 2020, 03:39:58 PM »

The market for electric vehicles is limited to urban dwellers. IMHO

I am curious why you say that?  I would think they would work as well or better for people living in rural areas.  The only large groups of people they don't make sense for are:
1) people who can't charge them at home.  Mostly, this would be people living in apartments where they don't have access to a garage or an outdoor electrical outlet, and this would be mostly people living in urban areas.
2) people who only have 1 vehicle AND need to drive 200+ miles in a day on occasion. I don't think this would have much to do with where you live. 

If you are basing your statement on access to public charging infrastructure, I think that is one of the biggest red herring issues surrounding electric vehicles.  I have has an electric car for 2 years, have put nearly 30,000 miles on it, and have never once used a public charger out of need, and have almost never used them period.  Relying on public charging is going to be very inconvenient except in special circumstances.  But if you can charge at home you really have no limitations except for extended travel, which is the same regardless of where you live.   
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