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I'd be really happy if Guzzi expands the V85 range to include a more road going bike. Don't need a full fairing like my old Norge, and I don't need two up capacity. Time will tell.
Freeways/motorways(UK) are probably childs play compared to the Bahn. Lane discipline is the key. Tooling along at an indicated 100mph, Jeff on the Norge and me on the Breva 750, we passed a fair few cars and trucks doing a steady 80 to 90. The MOMENT you pass them and its safe to do so, you have to pull back into the "slow" lane because you can bet there's a Focus RS or a Porsche or Audi or Merc doing between 120 and 170 wanting to come past. And the amazing thing (compared to the UK) is THEY then move to the far right lane if there is nothing in front of them. It all works amazingly well.
Everywhere is within walking distance if you have the time. Being able to maintain 60 is about 30 MPH shy of what is currently needed on most highways/.
If you are riding on SECONDARY roads, 250cc and 60mph is fine....but if you have to motor down on today's modern Interstates, you need a bike that will cruise at 75mph (minimum) IMHO, without straining, (or blowing up), the engine ...That has always been my criteria for a long distance touring bike......and of course, if you have the time, one can avoid the Interstates altogether...
"It's a sad fact that the average American weighs 15% more today than in 1976. Over the same period, the dry weight of a Goldwing has risen 28%.The average American today weighs 30 lb more than the average Western European, 40 lb more than the average Japanese. No wonder they send us heavier bikes than they did 40 years ago." I weigh 160 lbs soaking wet. My V7lll is way oversprung because it is probably set up for 200 pounders plus. My Audace could be more compliant as well. I would probably be more inclined to to tour on the V7 if it rode better. Something I will need to work on but aftermarket suspension is $$$$.Speaking of heavy weight Americans I recently tried to find some narrow width boots. Redwing has always had them but no more. Salesperson told me that Americans are too big and they don't make them anymore because nobody can fit into them anymore. kk
I've 'toured' with most any bike type imaginable. For a number of years it was Ferrying bikes for guys that wouldn't ride in the dark, it's too far, I don't have the time to ride all that way. Amazing how well that paid - most times. Curiously they were mostly bmw's.Now that I've aged out of bikes weighing more than ~350#'s I'm back to 650's and smaller, plus 2 strokes for quick, indecent fun.I still believe a DR650 w/correct suspension changes, gearing, wheels, tires and brakes could be excellent. There's large amount of luggage to chose from including aux. fuel, plus lighting, handle bars, electric grips, wind screens. I've had a short stack of Moto Guzzis' for the last 25 years, but 2 SV650S's have done close to 200K miles,collectively, (many of them BBGolds), with never a whimper or flat. Do you want to Tour or repair? R3~
You just described the Suzuki Savage.
Now that I've aged out of bikes weighing more than ~350#'s I'm back to 650's and smaller, plus 2 strokes for quick, indecent fun.I still believe a DR650 w/correct suspension changes, gearing, wheels, tires and brakes could be excellent. There's large amount of luggage to chose from including aux. fuel, plus lighting, handle bars, electric grips, wind screens.
Be careful you don't start WWIII of the Tightwads!!!! The Suzuki Savage owners make the Wild Guzzi bunch look like Rockefeller's when it comes to being stingy cheap bastards!!!!!One of the most informative motorcycle websites out there: http://www.suzukisavage.com/home/If anyone ever wants a dirt cheap introduction to the Suzuki Savage without risking the cost of actually buying one, download this free CD:http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1199986392
Kev,Is that pretty lady flippin you "da bird!"? Not only cute, but obviously a good judge of character!!!God how I love that "North of the Mason Dixon Line" sense of humor!"I hurt yer feelins? Fuhgedabutit!"
Well said, sir.Back on topic, a quarter or half fairing at most. The Norge was the first and last full fairing bike I'll buy. It's NOT bad, just not what I like. My Tiger 1050 with a decent sized cowl up front was really good-even at 28 degrees returning from WV in November (with heated gear). I know most Norge owners find them ok but after 5 years I realized it was just too hot for me-not enough air.I have a good riding bud with the 900 yamaha touring version, whatever it's called, and he likes it a lot.
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