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Title: COLD HANDS!
Post by: Ncdan on January 03, 2018, 02:11:14 PM
How do you guys in the really cold areas of America keep your hands from freezing? I rode the other day at 21 degrees and gloves with thinlate and liners, still my finger tips were to cold for comfort.
Suggestions welcomed:)
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on January 03, 2018, 02:13:57 PM
Heated gloves? "Hipohands"?
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: swooshdave on January 03, 2018, 02:20:55 PM
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2914/32556589893_d84a2b26a2_b.jpg)

Heated grips of course.
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: nick949 on January 03, 2018, 02:21:49 PM
Convert it to celcius, it's only -6c so seems a lot warmer.  Wear snowmobile gloves.
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: JJ on January 03, 2018, 02:22:19 PM
Heated gloves? "Hipohands"?

Yes..."heated grips / heated gloves" are the way to go for sure! :wink: :cool: :1: :thumb:
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: twowings on January 03, 2018, 02:27:28 PM
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https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/962/15583/Tusk-Hand-Mitts (https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/962/15583/Tusk-Hand-Mitts)
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: Kev m on January 03, 2018, 02:34:06 PM
Heated GLOVES are the only way to go.

I've used grips and they are more convenient but cannot keep up with sub-freezing temps very long for me.

I've used shields, covers, etc. and they help, but not enough.

I imagine I could probably go some distance with a combination of heated grips and hippo-hand style covers, but I can't stand the look of them so I doubt I'll ever bother.

What I REALLY want is a lithium battery pack rechargeable electric glove... and to move to AZ.
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: Sheepdog on January 03, 2018, 02:37:42 PM
There are a number of solutions. I keep a pair of Aerostich Triple Digit glove rain covers in my saddlebags. They bring the temperature I can tolerate down 7 or 8 degrees. I use handguards on my 4-wheeler for hunting season and they work pretty well. However, they might interfere with the look you seek. National Cycle makes a clear version that might work. Versions of the Hippo Hands are available that keep you toasty while wearing your favorite riding gloves underneath. The originals are excellent, but more affordable clones are out there...

http://www.aerostich.com/clothing/gloves/rain-glove-covers/aerostich-triple-digit-covers.html
http://www.nationalcycle.com/hand-deflectors-hd.html
https://www.hippohands.com/products/rogue
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: Guzzi Gal on January 03, 2018, 03:11:11 PM
I too have considered Hippo Hands and similar, but they are ugly as F^@#!   I tried the Dainese Anemos Windstopper Gloves and found they stop wind about a well as my fingerless mesh gloves.  I tried adding a pair of FREEZE-OUT liners, which didn't help, so I now use a basic pair of leather gloves with the liners.  This combination seems to work in our warmer climes, but I wouldn't think of using them below 40F.
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: elvisboy77 on January 03, 2018, 03:16:58 PM
Heated glove liners from Warm N Safe
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: fotoguzzi on January 03, 2018, 03:23:25 PM
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Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: Ncdan on January 03, 2018, 03:37:25 PM
Heated GLOVES are the only way to go.

I've used grips and they are more convenient but cannot keep up with sub-freezing temps very long for me.

I've used shields, covers, etc. and they help, but not enough.

I imagine I could probably go some distance with a combination of heated grips and hippo-hand style cov
ers, but I can't stand the look of them so I doubt I'll ever bother.

What I REALLY want is a lithium battery pack rechargeable electric glove... and to move to AZ.
Lol, good though on the AZ thing:)  yea I’m leaning to the electric gloves, any particular brand you’ve tried and like?
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: Ncdan on January 03, 2018, 03:41:15 PM
(https://photos.smugmug.com/All/i-m5FkpMx/0/5d03f721/L/IMG_1557-L.jpg) (https://fotoguzzi.smugmug.com/All/i-m5FkpMx/A)

Lmao, photo, you are in the wrong business:) however I’d say that would help and my wife said she was about to finish a jug of Clorox:)
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: rodekyll on January 03, 2018, 03:41:48 PM
I too have considered Hippo Hands and similar, but they are ugly as F^@#!   I tried the Dainese Anemos Windstopper Gloves and found they stop wind about a well as my fingerless mesh gloves.  I tried adding a pair of FREEZE-OUT liners, which didn't help, so I now use a basic pair of leather gloves with the liners.  This combination seems to work in our warmer climes, but I wouldn't think of using them below 40F.

With my big hippo hands I can bust snow and hail pretty well.  I was a cold weather rider in Alaska for years and never used heated gear of any type.  Hippo hands and summer gloves/glove liners are comfy down to the 30s.  When I put on my real gloves I can ride in as cold a temperature as I care to.

When you get somewhere where you need them, hippo hands are the prettiest thing you ever saw.  I have three variations -- the original Vetter sheepskin lined ones with the re-enforcing rods, a light quilted fold-up kind, and a neoprene folding pair.  All are waterproof, and depending on my handlebar clutter, one is generally going to seal weather out better.  I carry a folding pair on the bikes for incidental cold, and install the big fleecy one on whatever the winter bike is.  Hippo Hands were originally designed for cable controls and stick mirrors on conventional handlebars.  They might not seal well on some hydraulic controls and other types of mirrors.  So look at the design of your candidate clone (I don't think Vetter is making them anymore) to see if they look like they'll fit.

The downside to Hippo hands are several: 

You might need to modify your handlebar clutter to get a good weather seal.  Things like master cylinders, levers and mirrors can get in the way.  Care must be taken during installation to not interfere with lever travel and buttons/switches.

Buttons/switches are not visible.  You need to know where they are by feel.  I've been known to tap the horn when I wanted to cancel the turn signal.

The folding kind can fold up on you while in service.  That means you can pull your hand out and the pocket collapses -- you can't get your hand back in.  Aside from the distraction, that can range from inconvenient to dangerous.  I get around that by putting a few loops of bicycle control cable in the seam around the hand opening.  The cable holds shape well enough to keep the opening open, but is still flexible enough to fold flat for storage.

And finally, a poorly mounted one can jam against the gas tank limiting steering.

But it takes no longer to put them on properly than it does to mount them poorly, and properly installed they're safe, warm, and butt ugly.  :thumb:
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: Kev m on January 03, 2018, 03:59:17 PM
Lol, good though on the AZ thing:)  yea I’m leaning to the electric gloves, any particular brand you’ve tried and like?
I've got 20+ year old Widder gear.

But if I was shopping today I'd probably start with Gerbing and/or Safe & Warm.

But I'm curious what else is out there these days.
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: guzzisteve on January 03, 2018, 04:02:42 PM
I have a pair of Olympia GoreTex w/leather palm and fingers. New in 88 still good to 17*F if you don't move fingers around. Same gloves Widder used for lectric. I only use them in winter. If full of snow & slush do not take off hand they will be soaked from no heat inside.
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: mjptexas on January 03, 2018, 05:31:42 PM
Heated gloves are the best answer.  I don’t ride much at below freezing temperatures but I have ridden for several hours at a time in mid-thirties temps with heated gloves.  Now I need to find a solution for my feet.
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on January 03, 2018, 05:39:52 PM
Lol, good though on the AZ thing:)  yea I�m leaning to the electric gloves, any particular brand you�ve tried and like?

I bought these Gerbings glove liners. Didn't get a chance to try them while riding before the roads were all crapped up with "salt".
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Gerbings-Heated-Clothing-Gloves-Liner-Unisex-Black-Connect-to-motorcycle-12V-DC/292254225595?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=591162187666&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

Same seller has these inexpensive Gerbings heated gloves:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Gerbings-NUBUCK-Heated-Gloves-Black-12V-Microwire-Heat-Waterproof-Thinsulate/292254153845?hash=item440bb47c75:m:m1EHkoiSWiEoi_rYFOq 6oqQ
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: Antietam Classic Cycle on January 03, 2018, 05:42:44 PM
Heated gloves are the best answer.  I don�t ride much at below freezing temperatures but I have ridden for several hours at a time in mid-thirties temps with heated gloves.  Now I need to find a solution for my feet.

Heated socks?
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on January 03, 2018, 05:43:10 PM
 I have a book of WW2 German motorcycles that has several pictures showing exhaust gasses piped up to the handlebars and out to cups that covered the boots for use on the Russian front.
 I looked on the inner neck and couldn't find photos though I found this statement.

Next
Magazine
5 Things You Didn�t Know About BMW Motorbikes
18 February 2013
 5 Things You Didn�t Know About BMW Motorbikes
We asked Simon de Burton to come up with five little-known facts about BMW motorbikes, and this is what he told us: from the technically interesting tidbit to the simply bizarre.

5 Things You Didn�t Know About BMW Motorbikes
Hot stuff
Although modern-day BMW bikes are available with a variety of engines ranging from the water-cooled, six-cylinder unit of the mighty K1600GT to the single-cylinder powerplant of the G650GS trail bike, it is the 'flat twin' configuration for which the marque is celebrated. The shaft-driven, horizontally opposed layout was originally conceived in 1922 by aeronautics engineer Max Friz � but few people know that one of the main reasons he went to work for the firm was because he was promised an office which benefited from a wood-burning stove.
5 Things You Didn�t Know About BMW Motorbikes
Quite a Combination
Anyone who has watched The Great Escape will be familiar with the Wehrmacht R75 motorcycle combinations which appear in several scenes and which were issued to the German army in the early years of WWII � but, outside their enthusiast following, few people appreciate just how remarkable they were. Producing a mere 26bhp, the 750cc engines had a compression ratio of just 5.6:1, meaning they could run on fuel of the worst possible quality. They had eight forward and two reverse gears, a driven sidecar wheel with a locking differential, and all three wheels were interchangeable. There were hand and foot warmers heated by exhaust gases � but the dry weight of the outfit was 420kg!
Title: COLD HANDS!
Post by: rss29 on January 03, 2018, 07:51:54 PM
Heated gloves are the best answer.  I don’t ride much at below freezing temperatures but I have ridden for several hours at a time in mid-thirties temps with heated gloves.  Now I need to find a solution for my feet.
I use Gerbing heated socks and they’re great. They are a hassle though, with wires running up your pant leg. Getting geared up in full heated outfit takes about 20 min.

Another solution is chemical toe warmers stuck to your socks. They only warm a small area of course so are no good for me and my Raynaud’s. Plus I don’t like the lumps under my feet. There are also heated insoles, but that would have the same wiring hassles as socks.
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: Rich A on January 03, 2018, 10:35:46 PM
I got a pair of Highway 21 heated gloves: https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/highway-21-7v-radiant-heated-gloves?utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cse&utm_term=1100507320283|

These are good when I don't wear the full Gerbing's jacket liner that I use to connect to my Gerbing gloves. Not having the cumbersome wires is a plus. They're a little bulky but not extremely so. They only heat the top of your hands, but when it is cold enough to wear them, I'm not going to be out for long rides anyway.

Not cheap, but I'm too darned old to suffer from the cold when it can be avoided. Obviously they are good for other times when you're outdoors and want to keep your hands warm--they'd be perfect for watching a football game or some other event when it is really cold out.

Rich A
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: MMRanch on January 04, 2018, 12:21:48 AM
These with a set of Brush Guards under them .

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Thermal-Waterproof-Motorcycle-Grip-HandleBar-Muffs-Hand-Protector-Mitts-Gloves/253204339763?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

The price is easy to live with and they are easy on and off .   :wink:

breaking the wind off my already Good Gloves , is Warm
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: Huzo on January 04, 2018, 01:40:05 AM
How do you guys in the really cold areas of America keep your hands from freezing? I rode the other day at 21 degrees and gloves with thinlate and liners, still my finger tips were to cold for comfort.
Suggestions welcomed:)
I spent 3 weeks up and around Nordkapp with temps around 3 degrees, occasionally up to 9 or so with 50% rain.
I used good gloves with rubberised over mittens, if you keep the gloves dry in this manner and keep the wind off at the same time, there's no drama at all
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: Kev m on January 04, 2018, 02:07:55 AM
I got a pair of Highway 21 heated gloves: https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/highway-21-7v-radiant-heated-gloves?utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cse&utm_term=1100507320283|

These are good when I don't wear the full Gerbing's jacket liner that I use to connect to my Gerbing gloves. Not having the cumbersome wires is a plus. They're a little bulky but not extremely so. They only heat the top of your hands, but when it is cold enough to wear them, I'm not going to be out for long rides anyway.

Not cheap, but I'm too darned old to suffer from the cold when it can be avoided. Obviously they are good for other times when you're outdoors and want to keep your hands warm--they'd be perfect for watching a football game or some other event when it is really cold out.

Rich A
Cool, that gets my attention!

Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: JohninVT on January 04, 2018, 04:13:12 AM
If you keep your head and core warm your hands will stay warmer.  If your hands are cold below 40 degrees it's time to break out the balaclava and a neck gaiter.  I have a hardwired, heated vest and it makes a huge difference in how comfortable my hands are in cold temps.  A battery powered heated vest works too. I had a Jett lithium battery vest for years(from Australia) and it was a prized possession for everything from biking to late Fall sporting events.  Hippo hands and handguards are both great.  Below 40 I break out my Held Freezer gloves and I'm good down to 32 for extended periods.  I don't ride on the street much below 32 degrees because the roads in northern New England get treated with too much salt and sand.  Roads are usually wet during the day with a layer of ice below the sand in hte morning and afternoon as the sun rises and sets.  Hand warmer packets are super cheap and we usually have 3 or 4 boxes of them laying around the house during ski season.       
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: timmythecop on January 04, 2018, 05:29:25 AM
Heated grips are the way forward.  Not only do they work, but you can vary the temperature to wear thinner gloves when it isnt arctic as well. These here cost about 35 bucks, go on easy and work.  I have used them in too many DC winter commutes.  I wired in a rheostat for infinate adjustment, but it comes with a HI-LO switch.  Once you go electric, you never go back.  Heated grips are a must for everyone of my bikes (including the work bike)
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Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: jas67 on January 04, 2018, 06:16:30 AM
Heated socks?

I've got these:
https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/firstgear-heated-socks (https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/firstgear-heated-socks)

They work great!
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: bpreynolds on January 04, 2018, 06:18:41 AM

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As others have said, heated gloves are really your only great option for especially cold temps.  I�ve been using them for 13 years.  If you have the dual controller it�s not that big a deal really.  This past week I have been riding the new V7III Stone to work (17 miles there, 17 back) with Gerbing�s gloves in temps of 9-11F with windchill below that even - I arrive at work pretty toasty if you believe that or not. Nobody believes me when I tell them I�m warmer on the bike than I am in the car with all that heat being poured directly on ya.  Of course, even if you�re warm in these kinds of temps there are a ton other things to worry about like cold tires and such, but I take it fairly easy.  I wear a balaclava and insulated/armored pants as well but honestly my legs don�t get that cold.  It�s always been astonishing to me how heated gear can completely transform Winter rides from just being tolerable/intolerable to amazing.  I just got back 3 weeks ago from about a 1300 mile roundtrip on my KTM.  The first two days were in temps about 22.  I had the full Gerbing�s outfit with the pants and even the socks  :thumb: It was almost stupid, laughably comfortable. 
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: Kev m on January 04, 2018, 06:30:51 AM

This past week I have been riding the new V7III Stone to work (17 miles there, 17 back) with Gerbing�s gloves in temps of 9-11F with windchill below that even - I arrive at work pretty toasty if you believe that or not. Nobody believes me when I tell them I�m warmer on the bike than I am in the car with all that heat being poured directly on ya.

I don't believe ya.

Let's see I can either:

Put on the thermal layers (under armor top/bottom and thermal socks, plus glove liners), followed by the fleece-lined jeans/long sleeve shirt, maybe a small sweatshirt, followed by the widder vest and electric gloves, followed by the aerostich jacket, pants, a balaclava and neck warmer to seal the helmet to the jacket and vest with the heated collar) and waddle like the Michelin man out to the Sporty with the tall windshield and wind deflector guards for the hands, bend over plug in, and somehow find that even though I tucked my jeans in my boots under the aerostich pants there's still an air leak SOMEWHERE... and the helmet which is mostly sealed and using a pinlock to avoid fog is still got a wisp of cold air on my face, and then I hit highway speeds and it's like the wind is just coming through the whole outfit like a ghost anyway.

OR


I can remote start the Jeep, which turns the heated seat on too and get in it after less than 5 minutes and by 10 minutes I'm thinking I need to roll down a window cause I'm too hot.


Nope, no way....

of course YMMV.


I remember back in the 90's before my heated vest I used to wear a one-piece snowmobile suit for my 1.5 hour long commute. Even then I don't think I was ever REALLY warm...just not "cold" at best.
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: kidsmoke on January 04, 2018, 07:06:25 AM
electricity notwithstanding:

as far as keeping wind and moisture off your hands, allowing your fingers to help one another, and allowing for dexterity, I don't think you can do better than this...

put these:

https://www.amazon.com/Pearl-Softshell-Lobster-Gloves-Bundle/dp/B010E3G6LY/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1515070699&sr=8-2-spons&keywords=pearl+izumi+lobster+gloves&psc=1

in these:
 
http://www.aerostich.com/aerostich-triple-digit-covers.html

I've used the Pearl Izumi lobster claws for 20 years as a year round cycling commuter in Chicago and they've always performed exceedingly well. Adding the Aerostitch triples for the additional wind/water/gauntlet layer puts them over the top, in my experience.






(https://i.imgur.com/hvYHoCY.jpg)
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: bpreynolds on January 04, 2018, 08:33:37 AM
I don't believe ya.

Let's see I can either:

Put on the thermal layers (under armor top/bottom and thermal socks, plus glove liners), followed by the fleece-lined jeans/long sleeve shirt, maybe a small sweatshirt, followed by the widder vest and electric gloves, followed by the aerostich jacket, pants, a balaclava and neck warmer to seal the helmet to the jacket and vest with the heated collar) and waddle like the Michelin man out to the Sporty with the tall windshield and wind deflector guards for the hands, bend over plug in, and somehow find that even though I tucked my jeans in my boots under the aerostich pants there's still an air leak SOMEWHERE... and the helmet which is mostly sealed and using a pinlock to avoid fog is still got a wisp of cold air on my face, and then I hit highway speeds and it's like the wind is just coming through the whole outfit like a ghost anyway.

OR


I can remote start the Jeep, which turns the heated seat on too and get in it after less than 5 minutes and by 10 minutes I'm thinking I need to roll down a window cause I'm too hot.


Nope, no way....

of course YMMV.


I remember back in the 90's before my heated vest I used to wear a one-piece snowmobile suit for my 1.5 hour long commute. Even then I don't think I was ever REALLY warm...just not "cold" at best.

 :grin:
Well now wait a minute.
Waddling never really bothers me much.  I kinda waddle a little anyhow, even without my gear.  And I gotta ask, where you get one these reeeemote controlled cars?  Me, I got an ’02 Tracker that, while a fantastic vehicle otherwise, takes half my commute to truly warm up unless I want to scurry out to start it up early and scurry back in the house.  A lot of scurrying there. I like waddling better.  :1:
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: Kev m on January 04, 2018, 08:45:23 AM
:grin:
Well now wait a minute.
Waddling never really bothers me much.  I kinda waddle a little anyhow, even without my gear.  And I gotta ask, where you get one these reeeemote controlled cars?  Me, I got an ’02 Tracker that, while a fantastic vehicle otherwise, takes half my commute to truly warm up unless I want to scurry out to start it up early and scurry back in the house.  A lot of scurrying there. I like waddling better.  :1:
Ha ha I had one of those too...

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Maybe it's the tiny engine and soft top?

I think the motor in the Jeep is more than double the size and I've got an insulated fiberglass top for winter.

Not to mention the heated seats!

Next one will have a heated steering wheel too.

Though I must confess this one doesn't have remote start because it's a 6-spd, but the wife's Grand Cherokee does. Doesn't matter because they both live in an attached/insulated garage so even though they get cold, they are rarely below 40°F or so at worst, at least for me.

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Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: bpreynolds on January 04, 2018, 09:57:29 AM
My Tracker is the 4d 4w4 hard top but I always envy the convertibles.  That Jeep is sharp!
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: Kev m on January 04, 2018, 10:01:25 AM
My Tracker is the 4d 4w4 hard top but I always envy the convertibles.  That Jeep is sharp!

My Tracker was a stripped 2wd soft-top (shown above when it was shot for the cover of our Chilton repair manual). I got bored with it after a year or two and converted it to a 4wd and upgraded some things (top, stereo, wheels/tires etc.).

It was tough little vehicle. And actually I do think it warmed up pretty quick because it was so small.

But without A/C and with that soft top it was brutal (loud and uncomfortable) in the summer.

Back then I often thought about buying a hardtop 4-door for the better comfort.

Still it was fun.

I picked up the Wrangler 2 years ago and love it. It's been great. I'll take it out later in this storm to take the kids sledding!
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: mjptexas on January 04, 2018, 10:55:24 AM
Heated grips are the way forward.  Not only do they work, but you can vary the temperature to wear thinner gloves when it isnt arctic as well. These here cost about 35 bucks, go on easy and work.  I have used them in too many DC winter commutes.  I wired in a rheostat for infinate adjustment, but it comes with a HI-LO switch.  Once you go electric, you never go back.  Heated grips are a must for everyone of my bikes (including the work bike)
The advantage electric gloves offer over heated grips is that the gloves keep the top of your hands warm.  Having said that I really like the convenience of grips.  They are great for shorter rides. 
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: John A on January 04, 2018, 11:24:41 AM
You can toughen up your hands by not wearing gloves during regular activities as the weather turns colder in the fall. I do this every year and it helps when I ride. it also helps to keep your hands moving, its about the blood flow. it helps to wear a heated vest, to keep your core temp up so that you don't start shutting off blood flow to the extremities to keep your core temp up. my apologies if someone already posted this, I didn't read them all
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: Vagrant on January 04, 2018, 03:10:03 PM
the real problem is everybody has a completely different tolerance for cold.
when we lived in N. Mn. and the UP of Michigan my wife rode in 30 degree weather with nothing more than a blouse and an unlined leather jacket while bitching she was too hot. meanwhile I had on the Gerbing jacket liner cranked 3/4 of the way up and an insulated leather jacket and was barely warm.
every bike i own has electric grips. way too many times it's been mid 70's one day and 18-30 in the am when I walk out of the motel. In the winter I keep the Gerbing electric gloves in the saddle bags just in case. most days a pair of normal gauntlet style leather gloves with a $1. pair of brown cotton loves is enough with the grips on 50%.
those new glove liners if thin enough might work well too. One thing to watch for with gloves is don't crank them to high. lower the temp before getting too hot or you will sweat starting a whole nother problem.
Oh and FYI a $10. Walmart nylon windbreaker over the jacket liner ads about 30-50% to the warmth factor by stopping all wind.
And Kev in So. Az So of Tucson it's not uncommon to leave at 9am and have it be 25-32 F. But it's sunny and should be 60-65 by noon with about 2% humidity. great ridding.
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: Kev m on January 04, 2018, 04:04:22 PM



And Kev in So. Az So of Tucson it's not uncommon to leave at 9am and have it be 25-32 F. But it's sunny and should be 60-65 by noon with about 2% humidity. great ridding.
Oh I've spent some time all along the southwest, especially around Scottsdale/Fountain Hills ... I can handle a frozen morning if I knew it would warm that day!

Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: Bucky on January 04, 2018, 04:31:54 PM
1. Heated Gloves...I have Gerbing
2. Heated Grips
3. Aerostich Triples....I was amazed at how much they helped with wind and air insulation.
                               Learned this just putting them over regular gloves in cold weather when heated         
                               grips  weren't keeping up.

My Gerbing gear is 20 years old and still works great. Had one issue with a section of the jacket not getting up to temp. They fixed it free. Apparently guaranteed for life...
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: jas67 on January 04, 2018, 05:01:51 PM
1. Heated Gloves...I have Gerbing
2. Heated Grips
3. Aerostich Triples....I was amazed at how much they helped with wind and air insulation.
                               Learned this just putting them over regular gloves in cold weather when heated         
                               grips  weren't keeping up.

My Gerbing gear is 20 years old and still works great. Had one issue with a section of the jacket not getting up to temp. They fixed it free. Apparently guaranteed for life...

That was the old Gerbings company.   They've now changed hands.   The lifetime warranty on my Gerbings heated gloves was useless when one of them failed, because they were an eBay purchase, and I didn't have a proof of purchase.

I will never buy Gerbings products ever again.

First Gear brand labels Warm-n-safe products.   When my Gearbings gloves failed, I bought First Gear gloves and have been very happy with them.  When one channel of the Gerbings two channel heat controller failed, I replaced it with a First Gear one -- been working great for the three seasons that I've had it.    I also have a pair of First Gear heated socks that work great.a
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: SmithSwede on January 04, 2018, 10:53:25 PM
I am a big fan of Hippo Hands.  Or customized Clorox bottles.  Don�t let their looks create an impedance to happy riding.

I am �currently� running both an electric vest and gloves.   Shockingly enough, this set up is fine down to about 25 degrees.   

We recently had barbarically cold weather, forcing me to ride 50 miles one way to work at 17 degrees (100 miles full circuit).  If you really want to step-up your protection, then I�ll say that covering the heated gloves with rubber insulating waterproof over-mitts really increases the potential. 

A lot of this is mental.   While riding in bitter cold, I just keep chanting �Ohm,� and I try to focus on the fact that if it is really nasty cold outside, the coffee will taste so much better when I arrive.

On the other hand, some people lack the capacity to appreciate that sentiment or otherwise resist my logic.  They think I�m crazy,  but I say I�m well grounded. 

Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on January 05, 2018, 08:32:45 AM
  Or you could only ride indoors on cold days.

 http://www.ebay.com/bhp/motorcycle-arcade-game
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: egschade on January 05, 2018, 08:55:06 AM
Short of electric gloves (pun intended), I do OK with hand guards, glove liners and on really cold days, hand-warmer packs. Remember, the hand warmers go on the back of your hand (or top of your feet) between the liner and glove. Blood flows from the back of your hand to the palm, which is why heated grips aren't terribly effective for keeping hands warm.
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: lorengo70 on January 05, 2018, 02:14:45 PM
I have been using these oxford removable grips (they use velcro to wrap around existing grips). Easy to install, can easily be put on and off the bike and can get very hot and are not expensive.

https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/oxford-hot-hands-heated-grips

so far so good. They are small enough that i can take them on my tank bag and install them in 1 minute on the side of the road if my hands get cold during my ride.
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: TimmyTheHog on January 05, 2018, 02:27:43 PM
I have been using these oxford removable grips (they use velcro to wrap around existing grips). Easy to install, can easily be put on and off the bike and can get very hot and are not expensive.

https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/oxford-hot-hands-heated-grips

so far so good. They are small enough that i can take them on my tank bag and install them in 1 minute on the side of the road if my hands get cold during my ride.

What does these guys eat for power? portable batteries?

and are the additional paddings thick?...I got small hands so might pose a grip issue if too thick :P
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: Kev m on January 05, 2018, 05:23:15 PM
I have been using these oxford removable grips (they use velcro to wrap around existing grips). Easy to install, can easily be put on and off the bike and can get very hot and are not expensive.

https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/oxford-hot-hands-heated-grips

so far so good. They are small enough that i can take them on my tank bag and install them in 1 minute on the side of the road if my hands get cold during my ride.
Interesting.... How are they wired?
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: bpreynolds on January 05, 2018, 06:44:42 PM
Just finished a 120 mile ride today using Gerbing’s gloves, liner, pants liner, and socks even.  Temps were about 17-22F.  Man I love heated gear. 
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: lorengo70 on January 06, 2018, 10:59:34 AM
Interesting.... How are they wired?
They are wired through the battery. They draw less than 30 watts if I remember correctly. Cable goes from battery to the handle bars (very easy to install and to hide the wiring under gas tank side) and it has a quick release attachment for each heated grip. It comes with simple switch that I attach to the handle bar to turn the power on or off  (it  doesn't have different levels of heat, just on or off and that has been one of the complaints some people have because the grips can get quite hot but has not been a problem for me at all).  In the summer I remove the switch (but keep the pig tail connection on the battery and the wiring that goes towards the handle bar. For the price, they do a very good job and provide enough heat even to go through my thick winter riding gloves.

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Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: Kev m on January 06, 2018, 11:32:48 AM
They are wired through the battery. They draw less than 30 watts if I remember correctly. Cable goes from battery to the handle bars (very easy to install and to hide the wiring under gas tank side) and it has a quick release attachment for each heated grip. It comes with simple switch that I attach to the handle bar to turn the power on or off  (it  doesn't have different levels of heat, just on or off and that has been one of the complaints some people have because the grips can get quite hot but has not been a problem for me at all).  In the summer I remove the switch (but keep the pig tail connection on the battery and the wiring that goes towards the handle bar. For the price, they do a very good job and provide enough heat even to go through my thick winter riding gloves.

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Thanks!
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: Ncdan on January 06, 2018, 09:37:39 PM
Thanks!
Sounds like a must for southern Jersey;)
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: TimmyTheHog on January 06, 2018, 09:39:37 PM
They are wired through the battery. They draw less than 30 watts if I remember correctly. Cable goes from battery to the handle bars (very easy to install and to hide the wiring under gas tank side) and it has a quick release attachment for each heated grip. It comes with simple switch that I attach to the handle bar to turn the power on or off  (it  doesn't have different levels of heat, just on or off and that has been one of the complaints some people have because the grips can get quite hot but has not been a problem for me at all).  In the summer I remove the switch (but keep the pig tail connection on the battery and the wiring that goes towards the handle bar. For the price, they do a very good job and provide enough heat even to go through my thick winter riding gloves.

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Sounds like the best of 2 worlds without having to deal with the handlebar  :thumb:
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: Kev m on January 06, 2018, 09:40:22 PM
Sounds like a must for southern Jersey;)
Only if I take my bike instead of my Jeep with heated seats!!! [emoji6]
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: John A on January 06, 2018, 11:17:59 PM
Only if I take my bike instead of my Jeep with heated seats!!! [emoji6]


Now that you mention it, a heated motorcycle seat sounds desirable !
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: Kev m on January 07, 2018, 06:56:08 AM

Now that you mention it, a heated motorcycle seat sounds desirable !
I believe BMW, Harley, and Corbin all make such things.... Maybe Sargent too, I forget.
Title: Re: COLD HANDS!
Post by: jas67 on January 10, 2018, 02:55:00 PM
I believe BMW, Harley, and Corbin all make such things.... Maybe Sargent too, I forget.

Yes, Sargent does as well.