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Re: Moto Guzzi Experience 2023
« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2023, 09:21:50 PM »
I think the trip sounds like you would be hard pressed to do the same on your own dime for (much) less.  My only difference would be riding a lot more miles on a 5 day trip. I am no Iron Butt, but 100-150mi/day seems like a lot more managed itinerary than I would be looking for. For the cost of food/lodging/bike rental or transport, doesnt seem easy to beat on a dollars and cents basis.

Also, any motorcycle trip into MT that doesnt take you to the Shonkin Sag and/or Flathead Valley is a non-starter for me  :thumb: But of course I am biased having lived in Greenough and Helena
When I did the California trip in 2021 we did quite a bit more than the mileage listed in the advertisement.
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Re: Moto Guzzi Experience 2023
« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2023, 06:44:22 AM »
When I did the California trip in 2021 we did quite a bit more than the mileage listed in the advertisement.

I'm wondering if they do an assessment of the riders in the group to determine the miles and the pace.  My wife organizes equestrian trips for her and her friends and then the outfitters learn that they are all experienced riders they up the experience to challenging. 
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Re: Moto Guzzi Experience 2023
« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2023, 09:12:31 AM »
I'm wondering if they do an assessment of the riders in the group to determine the miles and the pace.  My wife organizes equestrian trips for her and her friends and then the outfitters learn that they are all experienced riders they up the experience to challenging.
While they had the skeleton of the trip planned (to include stopping points with hotels each night) they did adjust the itinerary daily to get to the best roads between point A and point B.  As is usual in motorcycling, it was about the ride not the destination.  Probably experience levels of the guests were a factor.
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Re: Moto Guzzi Experience 2023
« Reply #33 on: March 21, 2023, 01:03:26 PM »
Yeah.. Sounds good to me.

if a fellow had some time off, might be fun for tag along hobo tour <Guzzi content>  :wink:
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Re: Moto Guzzi Experience 2023
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Re: Moto Guzzi Experience 2023
« Reply #34 on: March 21, 2023, 01:05:31 PM »
I think the trip sounds like you would be hard pressed to do the same on your own dime for (much) less.  My only difference would be riding a lot more miles on a 5 day trip. I am no Iron Butt, but 100-150mi/day seems like a lot more managed itinerary than I would be looking for. For the cost of food/lodging/bike rental or transport, doesnt seem easy to beat on a dollars and cents basis.

Also, any motorcycle trip into MT that doesnt take you to the Shonkin Sag and/or Flathead Valley is a non-starter for me  :thumb: But of course I am biased having lived in Greenough and Helena

I don't think there's any restrictions on where or how long you ride if you don't want to follow the group.
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Re: Moto Guzzi Experience 2023
« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2023, 01:13:11 PM »
While they had the skeleton of the trip planned (to include stopping points with hotels each night) they did adjust the itinerary daily to get to the best roads between point A and point B.  As is usual in motorcycling, it was about the ride not the destination.  Probably experience levels of the guests were a factor.

Hopefully there will be at least two groups: Fast Folks who want to scrape pegs and Tourist Riders who want to enjoy the view. I'm definitely in the later group.
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Re: Moto Guzzi Experience 2023
« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2023, 08:32:56 PM »
For those who have done guided trips like this, how much do you tip the guides? I've read everything from 'toss the guy a 50' to 10% of the event which would be $250. It's 4 days of riding BTW.
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Re: Moto Guzzi Experience 2023
« Reply #37 on: April 26, 2023, 07:50:20 AM »
For those who have done guided trips like this, how much do you tip the guides? I've read everything from 'toss the guy a 50' to 10% of the event which would be $250. It's 4 days of riding BTW.

I asked the guy in charge if tipping the tour leader was ok. He told me no tipping.  Thatís was the MG Experience USA in 2021Ö
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Re: Moto Guzzi Experience 2023
« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2023, 07:56:31 AM »
I asked the guy in charge if tipping the tour leader was ok. He told me no tipping.  Thatís was the MG Experience USA in 2021Ö

Gotta love the Europeans... If this was a US-based company trip, you'd be presented with an ipad prefilled to 15%-20%-25% tip options every time the guide flipped on their turn signal
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Re: Moto Guzzi Experience 2023
« Reply #39 on: April 26, 2023, 10:07:45 AM »
If you like the service,slip the guide a 50 or 100, boss doesnít need to know.

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Re: Moto Guzzi Experience 2023
« Reply #40 on: April 26, 2023, 06:29:51 PM »
Gotta love the Europeans... If this was a US-based company trip, you'd be presented with an ipad prefilled to 15%-20%-25% tip options every time the guide flipped on their turn signal

I wish we'd just pay people a fair wage.  I don't get it when I pick-up take out and not getting "service".   I'm sure it's me, being the resident jackass here but I don't get the rules of the road.  I try to give 20% when I'm in a sit down place.  15% used to be the rule.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2023, 05:53:10 PM by Ncdan »
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Re: Moto Guzzi Experience 2023
« Reply #41 on: April 26, 2023, 06:46:14 PM »
I asked the guy in charge if tipping the tour leader was ok. He told me no tipping.  Thatís was the MG Experience USA in 2021Ö

That would be especially admirable if was an Italian home office employee, because in that case he was probably making Euro 1500 or 2000 a month take home.
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Re: Moto Guzzi Experience 2023
« Reply #42 on: April 26, 2023, 09:18:33 PM »
That would be especially admirable if was an Italian home office employee, because in that case he was probably making Euro 1500 or 2000 a month take home.
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Re: Moto Guzzi Experience 2023
« Reply #43 on: April 27, 2023, 05:45:47 PM »
I wish we'd just pay people a fair wage.  I don't get it when I pick-up take out and not getting "service".   I'm sure it's me, being the resident jackass here but I don't get the rules of the road.  I try to give 20% when I'm in a sit down place.  15% used to be the rule.

So, you'd rather everything cost 20% more, but no tipping? 

Personally, in the service industry I would rather they "earn" their tip by providing a great customer experience.  That weeds out the slackers.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2023, 05:53:29 PM by Ncdan »
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Re: Moto Guzzi Experience 2023
« Reply #44 on: April 28, 2023, 08:08:45 AM »
I'll bring a bunch of 10's, 20's and some 50's to dole out if someone goes above and beyond. Also like to leave something for housekeeping folks.
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