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Re: Big Block vs. Small Block for Lollipop Guild Member
« Reply #30 on: Today at 08:55:09 AM »
Thanks for this! Nevada in second place due to ergos? Or is it geared/cammed differently?

I’m on a Nevada..the lower seat has a downside in that it also splays your knees apart, but my 66yr old hips aren’t what they used to be..tempted to move to a V7 with a flat seat for my 32” inseam.

I describe the Nevada as a 2/3rds of a EV/Cali. 2/3 power, 2/3 size. Wonderful small block motor that sings at 6k, same as twin throttle body earlier V7…More of a 55-75mph interstate ride than a 65-85 EV. I have hard bags to act as leg protection. Replaced the handlebar with narrower and lower to bring a small forward bend. Stripped the ugly plastic chromed covers and sprayed a matt white. $4250 is a bit much, should be lower than similar V7 years

Don’t be fooled by the cruiser looking ergonomics…they used a tall rear tire that brings it back to a wonderfully neutral steering. Bought mine used in the middle of January for a steal…guzzi content! 21k miles and all good…





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Re: Big Block vs. Small Block for Lollipop Guild Member
« Reply #31 on: Today at 08:58:52 AM »
Once you really start looking carefully, it turns into an embarrassment of riches very quickly...

Essentially a low-milage naked Norge for $3200!
https://bellingham.craigslist.org/mcy/d/bellingham-2006-moto-guzzi-breva-1100/7739555422.html


If height/weight are an issue to you my Breva 1100 felt WAY bigger/heavier than any of our smallblocks. It's night and day, and I didn't get the smallblocks because I was in any way challenged by the weight/height of the CARC bike. But I'd be remiss if I didn't mention it.

That said, the CARC bikes are night and day different with regards to effortless high speed highway work (if that matters to you).
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Re: Big Block vs. Small Block for Lollipop Guild Member
« Reply #32 on: Today at 09:04:05 AM »
I describe the Nevada as a 2/3rds of a EV/Cali. 2/3 power, 2/3 size. Wonderful small block motor that sings at 6k, same as twin throttle body earlier V7…More of a 55-75mph interstate ride than a 65-85 EV. I have hard bags to act as leg protection. Replaced the handlebar with narrower and lower to bring a small forward bend. Stripped the ugly plastic chromed covers and sprayed a matt white. $4250 is a bit much, should be lower than similar V7 years

Don’t be fooled by the cruiser looking ergonomics…they used a tall rear tire that brings it back to a wonderfully neutral steering. Bought mine used in the middle of January for a steal…guzzi content! 21k miles and all good…


I didn't mention it because of the OPs price range, but the first generation V9 Roamer/Bobber fit that bill even better. The motor feels more like the same as the EV. And the steering/handling is fantastic and the seat height is an inch to inch and a half lower than the Heron head V7 models (and I think the seat is more narrow). But the late-model Hemi head V7s are about the same in seat height.
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Re: Big Block vs. Small Block for Lollipop Guild Member
« Reply #33 on: Today at 09:49:08 AM »
I didn't mention it because of the OPs price range, but the first generation V9 Roamer/Bobber fit that bill even better.
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Funny you mention that. I don't dig the Bobber, but if I could stretch the budget (which I can't) this little number in Chicago with a screen and cargo rack looks pretty good. Negotiations starting at $5500...
https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/mcy/d/chicago-2017-moto-guzzi-v9-roamer/7733339297.html

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Re: Big Block vs. Small Block for Lollipop Guild Member
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Re: Big Block vs. Small Block for Lollipop Guild Member
« Reply #34 on: Today at 10:23:26 AM »
Funny you mention that. I don't dig the Bobber, but if I could stretch the budget (which I can't) this little number in Chicago with a screen and cargo rack looks pretty good. Negotiations starting at $5500...
https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/mcy/d/chicago-2017-moto-guzzi-v9-roamer/7733339297.html

I wasn't sure what to think about the V9 series until I rode a Bobber Sport at a demo day (the same time I first rode a V85).

I expected to like the V85 and hate the V9, but the opposite occurred. I fell in love with the V9. I still think about adding one to the fleet, despite the fact that I have TWO V7s.
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Re: Big Block vs. Small Block for Lollipop Guild Member
« Reply #35 on: Today at 02:40:53 PM »
Here in Norway, a Nevada cost about half to 2/3 that of a V7 Classic from 2008-2011 or so.

My brother, who have owned - and own - several Guzzis, had an 1100 fuel injected EV, and my V9 Roamer would have killed the bigger bike in any kind of roll-on competition. The 1100 had a huge valley in the torque that began around 4000 rpm that it could not drag itself out of when loaded. Going up an 8% incline in top gear, starting out at 50 mph, the 1100 gently moved away from my Honda NT650V Deauville until about 65 mph, then they ran even until about 70 mph. At this stage, the Guzzi just about stopped accelerating, while the little - and just as heavy - Honda ever so gingerly gained a little speed and began crawling back to the rear wheel of the bigger Guzzi. Neither would get up to an indicated 75 mph. The V9 just pulls with vigor up the same hill in top gear, no sign of a drop of torque anywhere. My son's V7 Classic from 2009 would also have easily beaten the 1100 EV. I reckon a more open exhaust system could have restored the missing midrange in the 1100.
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Re: Big Block vs. Small Block for Lollipop Guild Member
« Reply #36 on: Today at 03:59:51 PM »
Funny you mention that. I don't dig the Bobber, but if I could stretch the budget (which I can't) this little number in Chicago with a screen and cargo rack looks pretty good. Negotiations starting at $5500...
https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/mcy/d/chicago-2017-moto-guzzi-v9-roamer/7733339297.html

I see the Roamer as the direct descendant of the
V65c….650cc
V7 Nevada…750cc
V9 Roamer…850cc

I would love a Roamer and is a step up in the same direction…and the ergonomics are better suited to my size, 5’9” 185lbs…dislike the Bobber look tho…both are V9 but completely different go figure

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