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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Guzzi Gal on August 19, 2017, 01:46:44 PM
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The Hubby, and I usually go for breakfast, and a short backroad ride on Saturday mornings. We had yet to come across other riders on these brief jaunts, as they are very early in the morning. Today we decided to go a couple of miles farther than normal, and try a new eatery. Turns out the website was inaccurate, and they weren't open. However, on the way back to our regular spot, we got laughed at a light by a couple of officers in a cruiser, and snubbed by a Harley. I waved at the cops, in a cheery fashion, so they laughed harder, and waved back. I guess they thought those two scooter riders were nuts.
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After breakfast, we decided to head up South Mountain, the largest municipal park in the U.S.. In phoenix proper, twisties are far, and few between, and I expected to see a couple fellow riders, and a ton of bicyclists. About two miles before the park entrance, we got our first official "wave" ever from a gal (?) on a UJM. I happily returned the gesture. A mile from the entrance, we were ignored by several more Harleys, then immediately waved at by a large sport bike contingent. Again, I reciprocated. Several more bikes waved, before we came to a stop to discuss our nest move. Once stopped, I asked my husband if he noticed the first wave, or any of them for that matter, as he hadn't returned a one. Turns out, he missed the first one, and saw some others, but didn't know what it was all about. I gave him a quick primer, and off we went up SoMo. Me thinks this short, but very beautifulride should become a regular thing for us.
Some believe the wave is idiocy, others wave only to their own "kind". Then there's the group that will wave only to "real" motorcycles, not scooters, trikes, mopeds, or what have you. I belong to the "gonna wave, whether you do or not" group.
It's all good. :thumb:
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UH OH , you have no idea the can of worms you've opened :shocked: :laugh:
I am in the "wave at everyone" camp , but us Okies are weird like that . We wave at farmers on tractors , folks on horses , heck , it doesn't cost anything .
Dusty
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I am in the "wave at everyone" camp , but us Okies are weird like that .
Same here, but around here strangers say hello to each other in store parking lots too. When I'm on my bicycle, I wave at motorcyclists and they usually wave back. When I'm on a motorcycle, I wave at bicyclists and they usually wave back. Generally, everyone waves at everyone around here, regardless of brand or type of 2-wheeled vehicle.
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My friend, Joe, (ya, I only got one friend )(😊) hikes SoMo every weekend.
When I was dating my wy late wife,, we rode my Guzzi up there. Nice views of the Valley of the Sun!!
Oh, and, I'd wave at a gorilla on a unicycle. Makes no difference to me!
Tom
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Same here, but around here strangers say hello to each other in store parking lots too. When I'm on my bicycle, I wave at motorcyclists and they usually wave back. When I'm on a motorcycle, I wave at bicyclists and they usually wave back. Generally, everyone waves at everyone around here, regardless of brand or type of 2-wheeled vehicle.
Yeah , same here . Then again , the "wag your tail and smile" method works everywhere , if nothing else it confuses folks :laugh:
Dusty
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When we had arrived at S. Mountain's highest lookout point, a grizzled biker dude came over to talk scooters with us. He said "those little things are fun as $#!+", and when he was in the service, he belonged to a group of hoodlums that rode them everywhere.
You meet the nicest people on a ___________!
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Yeah , same here . Then again , the "wag your tail and smile" method works everywhere , if nothing else it confuses folks :laugh:
Dusty
Ain't that the truth!
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I'd also say congrats on riding those things on a hot day up to So Mountain. We used to have family gatherings up there with Aunts, Uncles and cousins. A couple of years we had an Easter morning service (uncle and a cousin were ministers).
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And......the Metro's made it up the hill??? :grin: Those are fun! I still have my 2 stroke Elite. I'm looking to get another Ruckus. Ride a moped scooter the right and way and they're loads of fun.
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My friend, Joe, (ya, I only got one friend )(😊) hikes SoMo every weekend.
When I was dating my wy late wife,, we rode my Guzzi up there. Nice views of the Valley of the Sun!!
Oh, and, I'd wave at a gorilla on a unicycle. Makes no difference to me!
Tom
I'm sure you have many friends, Tom. We live a leisurely 5 minuet walk from a trail head, and I used to do a predawn hike every day. Alas, I've gotten out of the habit.
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And......the Metro's made it up the hill??? :grin:
At a blazing 25 MPH! :grin:
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I'm over on 16th & McDowell, when I'm in town visiting the Thibideaux's.
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When we had arrived at S. Mountain's highest lookout point, a grizzled biker dude came over to talk scooters with us. He said "those little things are fun as $#!+", and when he was in the service, he belonged to a group of hoodlums that rode them everywhere.
You meet the nicest people on a ___________!
LMAO!!! I can picture that!!
Tom
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I've switched to a no waiting way early flash of a wave way before we meet. Makes them miserable for longer for not waving....its up to them, but my 70s intro to biking was we owned the waves, anyone on two wheels because we were as rare as hens teeth, and by God we had actually had to fix the damn things to get on the road and it was pretty much a miracle of machinery ....these days, not so much
Moped army rules....
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Smile, greet and wave!! It's the right thing to do. Good for the soul and could brighten someone's day.
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I always wave at Scooters, mopeds, reverse trikes and sidecars because these people are crazy. and pot meets kettle
Mark :bike-037:
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I've switched to a no waiting way early flash of a wave way before we meet. Makes them miserable for longer for not waving....its up to them, but my 70s intro to biking was we owned the waves, anyone on two wheels because we were as rare as hens teeth,...
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yeah, i'm with chuck here. i started riding on the street in the late 60's and we just waved to everyone on a bike. there weren't all that many of us and the nod to inclusion seemed like a good thing. generally the harley guys did not wave back and i learned to stop giving them the nod. i remember stopping at the bottom of the hill in my neighborhood and a harley guy, wearing a cut, pulled up next to me and said "why don't you get a real bike!" then he roared off. nowadays i am back to waving at anyone on powered 2 wheels. i leave it to them to figure out their protocols. i say 'peace on earth, good will toward peoplekind.'
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I'm reasonably sure that there's some riders who are ready to wave as they approach but don't want to look like a dill if you don't respond so they don't. Try waiting 'till the very last moment and flick one, and I reckon they'll respond instantly. Here in Oz, a Harley rider won't wave if he's with his mates, but more often than not, will if he's on his own. You don't have to be Pythagoras to work that one out.
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Heck,
I'll wave to almost everybody on 2 powered wheels; and bicycle riders, joggers (whether a pretty young lady or not) gets a thumbs up. Same thumbs up for anyone in a classic vehicle, whether a 60's 'Vette, or a restored pickup. Most of those on motorcycles respond ( mostly seems to be "rice rocket" riders who ignore the greeting). Most of the time the Harley folks will wave. Almost all of the classic vehicle riders will respond with a wave.
If they don't wave, no offense taken. As I see it, what's the harm in being civilized to one's fellow riders/drivers. Making someone smile isn't a bad thing.
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On the ones that didn't wave back. Maybe they were preocupied with something, like traffic.
On my commute, when the traffic is sucky, I'd rather be paying attention to what the cars are doing around me than waving.
Now if it's on an open road, that a different story.
Tom
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I generally wave at anything two or three wheeled. 80%+ get a wave back. The non-wavers tend to be a small percentage of H-D riders and young crotch rocket riders. With the H-d riders it seems the more "pirate" they are the less likely to wave. I do tend to get more waves overall on the T-3 compared to the Norge. Sometimes I think the T-3 has them perplexed as to what it is and they think the Norge is a BMW.
GliderJohn
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JP , those Harley riders we "let" pass us waved , they did give your T3 a good looking over :grin:
Dusty
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JP , those Harley riders we "let" pass us waved , they did give your T3 a good looking over :grin:
Dusty
But we could have offered to race them down the five miles dirt road I took you on. I think we would have won. :evil:
GliderJohn
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Dusty
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Couple of days ago I was riding through a rather remote neighborhood on my EV. I waved at an older guy getting his mail from the box at the street. He responded with a wave back and a BIG smile. Felt good.
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Will have kids wave either from a car or sidewalk. Always try to give a good wave back. Positive riding PR never hurts.
GliderJohn
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I wave at everyone, motorcycle or scooter. Even the Harley guys wave back around here, unless I was on the BV350. Also, the guys with the ape hangers above their shoulders never wave back. There was a guy on a BMW forum posted that he wouldn't wave at a scooter or smaller bike rider, what an ***.
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The RICHARDS are everywhere.
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From JACoH:
Also, the guys with the ape hangers above their shoulders never wave back.
Do they dare let go to wave?
GliderJohn
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From JACoH:
Do they dare let go to wave?
GliderJohn
I was thinking the same thing!! :evil:
Tom
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I generally wave at anything two or three wheeled. 80%+ get a wave back. The non-wavers tend to be a small percentage of H-D riders and young crotch rocket riders. With the H-d riders it seems the more "pirate" they are the less likely to wave. I do tend to get more waves overall on the T-3 compared to the Norge. Sometimes I think the T-3 has them perplexed as to what it is and they think the Norge is a BMW.
GliderJohn
What he said. The posers that think they are bad a...s I don't even bother. The ones that get me are the guys that will waive but look the other way. I haven't figured them out but they are on Harley's. Newer beamers and wings tend to be stuck up.
When it comes to brass tacks, as long as I am enjoying my ride, I don't care anymore.
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And......the Metro's made it up the hill??? :grin: Those are fun! I still have my 2 stroke Elite. I'm looking to get another Ruckus. Ride a moped scooter the right and way and they're loads of fun.
If this is the Tom I think it is, Ruck asses are an Icon on your island. Possibly the greatest number of two wheel vehicles there. They make a lot of sense and a lot of cheap fun, as in more than 100 smiles per gallon.
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Sometimes when I'm with my dog (in the Subi) I still wave at bikes/trikes and other Subaru's.
BTW, in Minnesota all boaters wave when passing and so do landlubbers on their docks. it's MN Nice ..
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Also, the guys with the ape hangers above their shoulders never wave back.
Do they dare let go to wave?
I was thinking the same thing!! :evil:
So was I. I just laughed so hard I snorted! Thank you, I needed that.
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I've been mulling over this gesture for a while. I see a lot of riders from all over the world 'touring' Alaska and they have to pass through Yukon to get there. Here is my flawed conclusion:
Local Harley riders won't waive unless they recognize me. I'm the guy who is riding while they are hiding from the weather in their trucks. Harley riders from the south rarely wave but they are on Harley's so motor skills may be limited or the bike is too heavy to risk not having two hands on the controls. Adventure tourer's from North America will wave (often before me) whereas European's don't (ever). Folks on Spyders wave at anything that goes by. Kids on dirt bikes in the ditch love to be recognized and wave very enthusiastically when it happens.
Me; I wave. I waive without bias except to anyone on a Vincent or a Rudge... but I haven't run across that yet.
I also have a Jeep and have decided that the JK killed the club. Jeeps used to wave to each other all the time. Nowadays the ones who get-it are the ones who have accessorized their truck in some form. Mall crawlers don't see a connection at all.
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If this is the Tom I think it is, Ruck asses are an Icon on your island. Possibly the greatest number of two wheel vehicles there. They make a lot of sense and a lot of cheap fun, as in more than 100 smiles per gallon.
I should have kept mine. I did some tweaking to it and got a top speed of 45 mph on the flats. Great for shopping runs and bypassing backed up traffic.
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Waving is an expression of joy from the waver , when the expression isn't well received and returned it just means the wavee is NOT happy and probably shouldn't be riding :shocked: :evil:
Dusty
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Waving is an expression of joy from the waver , when the expression isn't well received and returned it just means the wavee is NOT happy and probably shouldn't be riding :shocked: :evil:
Dusty
Joy, yes! Maybe the non-wavers have just started their daily therapy session, and haven't quite tapped into the joy yet. :angry: :sad: :smiley: :laugh: :grin: :thumb:
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My name is Rick, and I wave to people on scooters... and trikes... motorcycles of course... pretty much anything you're out riding, I'll wave. Most wave back. The ones who I've found dont? #1, Harley guys, #2 BMW riders, #3 newbies who aren't yet comfortable taking a hand off the controls. That said, they learn, and eventually, they wave too.
Congrats to you and the hubby, always enjoy the ride.
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I wave at everything including bicycles, most wave back when I am on the Stelvio and a few percentage more don't when I am on the wife's MP3 scooter. I like to use her scoot when running errands around town. So much easier to park and get on and off of when making multiple stops. Not to mention its just plain fun to ride.
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I normally wave to everybody, including scooters. It obviously surprises many scooter riders.
My favorite scooter story was one day riding my local mountain, Angeles Crest Highway, on my BMW GSA, when I got to Nucomb's Ranch (eatery 28 miles up from the bottom) on the mountain there was a scooter club gathering of maybe 20 scoots. On my way down the mountain, about only a mile from Nucomb's, I got a ticket for 70 in a 55. Crap! My mood killed, I start back down the mountain going about 50. Suddenly, out of nowhere comes the scooter gang up behind and I was still in the mood from the ticket and I let every single one of them pass me (we share lanes here, so just move over and folks can pass you in the curves without going over the line).
Talk about indignity, being passed by a hoard of scooters.
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Talk about indignity, being passed by a hoard of scooters.
You just wanted to see each, and every one 'cuz they're so dang cute! :wink:
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Some scooters when ridden properly can "blow" pass any motorcycle on a mountain road. Not so much the moped scooters but the ones that have a little larger engine like a Vespa 125, Honda Elite 250 or a BV500. :grin:
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Most people do "noddies" this side of the pond and I tend to nod everything with an engine and less than 3 wheels
When I had the Cali I took a perverse pleasure in nodding to the HD boys and being acknowledged but you could feel their confusion - "It looks like a HD but there's something not quite right with it" :evil: :evil:
Doesn't work with the B11 - I just tend to get ignored :grin:
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I'm from Denmark and when I took my license back in 1986, it was written in the theory book motorcycles are supposed to greet each other with a wave. I'm not sure if you could fail the test if you didn't wave, but at least it was considered good manners.
I still remember my first wave as a bike owner, I had just purchased a worn-out Honda CB350Four and was crossing a bridge in a major city when a rice-rocket pilot doing 100+km/hr waved at me... who I felt I was part of the gang now ;-)
Generally, people on bikes wave unless you're on a multilane road or you're doing turns/engaged clutch in a swing lane. There's tough a tendency that harley-riders don't wave at ricerockets and vice-versa.
It seems a Guzzi confuse riders though, I wave at everyone (learned from the theory book) and both Harley and rice rockets wave at me.
I live in a rual area and it's seen polite to wave at especially elderly people on the roadside, people you know etc. Same goes for people in boats, you lift the hand when you pass
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Everyone waves back to me when I'm on the hack. :grin:
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Me; I wave. I waive without bias except to anyone on a Vincent or a Rudge...
Right. Those you bail up and chat with for at least a couple of hours. That probably why you don't get to see many, they run out of time before they reach you.
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I'm from Denmark and when I took my license back in 1986, it was written in the theory book motorcycles are supposed to greet each other with a wave. I'm not sure if you could fail the test if you didn't wave, but at least it was considered good manners.
I still remember my first wave as a bike owner, I had just purchased a worn-out Honda CB350Four and was crossing a bridge in a major city when a rice-rocket pilot doing 100+km/hr waved at me... who I felt I was part of the gang now ;-)
Generally, people on bikes wave unless you're on a multilane road or you're doing turns/engaged clutch in a swing lane. There's tough a tendency that harley-riders don't wave at ricerockets and vice-versa.
It seems a Guzzi confuse riders though, I wave at everyone (learned from the theory book) and both Harley and rice rockets wave at me.
I live in a rual area and it's seen polite to wave at especially elderly people on the roadside, people you know etc. Same goes for people in boats, you lift the hand when you pass
I live in a rural area with many Amish. The Amish children love when we beep the horns on the scooters. The Amish boys really like the V7. They pay no attention to the Calvin, I guess the cruiser riders ignore them.
I look like the village idiot, I will wave to everyone, and usually get one in return.
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Right. Those you bail up and chat with for at least a couple of hours. That probably why you don't get to see many, they run out of time before they reach you.
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