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Re: Kawasaki W800 Coming to the States
« Reply #90 on: November 16, 2018, 10:05:47 AM »
It'd be interesting to find out if there are any cast wheels from other models that will fit the W800.

Even if they could be found, since the new W800 has ABS, there might be some fabrication needing to be done to mount the tone rings, and or modifications to the mountings for the sensors.

While I do think the W800 looks right with wire wheels, I also appreciate having tubeless tires.

Which again will be part of what we need to consider between the two.

Tubeless tires on mags - but water cooling and no tach - Bonnie

Wire wheels/tubes and tach - but air cooled! - W

I know we could eventually seal the wheels, but I still don't like spokes no matter how "period" or "style" correct they are.

Then again would it kill us to have ONE exception to mags or air-cooling?

naaaaahhh, it wouldn't.

Ohhh, one more difference, the incoming Street Twin is going to have a Brembo front brake.
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Re: Kawasaki W800 Coming to the States
« Reply #91 on: November 16, 2018, 10:08:46 AM »
Which again will be part of what we need to consider between the two.

Tubeless tires on mags - but water cooling and no tach - Bonnie

Wire wheels/tubes and tach - but air cooled! - W

I know we could eventually seal the wheels, but I still don't like spokes no matter how "period" or "style" correct they are.

Then again would it kill us to have ONE exception to mags or air-cooling?

naaaaahhh, it wouldn't.

Ohhh, one more difference, the incoming Street Twin is going to have a Brembo front brake.

I think this absolutely calls for a test ride, and detailed analysis.   :grin:

I think I need to come help.

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Re: Kawasaki W800 Coming to the States
« Reply #92 on: November 16, 2018, 10:27:26 AM »
I think this absolutely calls for a test ride, and detailed analysis.   :grin:

I think I need to come help.

And in the end NOTHING we think will matter, cause it will be Jenn's decision...  :laugh: :grin: :laugh:
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Re: Kawasaki W800 Coming to the States
« Reply #93 on: November 16, 2018, 11:29:13 AM »
Multi brand dealers have a unique perspective that is likely a result of their market segment.

I remember a conversation with my local multi-brand shortly after the T120, Thruxton R etc. came out.

This place carries all of JAPanInc., Polaris, Sea-Doo/Ski-Doo, Ural, and Triumph (and at the time still had Vic and RE).

Anyway, his customers want the fastest they can get for the cheapest, they just don't GET most of the Triumphs, especially the Thruxton R for the price.

That said if you compare this Kawi to Triumph, Guzzi, Harley, you see it's priced to THAT market.

Kawi - $9799
Old Street Twin (no dual clocks, no cafe features etc.) - $9100
New Street Twin (TBA, bet it's damn close to the Kawi)
Street Cup - $10,500
T100 - $10,400

Yep.  They sell the Japanese, BWM, Indian, and used to sell Triumph up until 2 years ago.  Even though they had a falling out with Triumph he thought Triumph was a better bike for the money.

I will say though that my experience with Kawasaki over the years has been stellar.  They stand behind their products and their extended warrantees are probably the least costly in the business.  Of course some parts have to come by way of a slow boat from Japan so a 3 month wait for a part they didn't expect to fail is normal.
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Re: Kawasaki W800 Coming to the States
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Re: Kawasaki W800 Coming to the States
« Reply #94 on: November 16, 2018, 11:39:36 AM »
I called Kawa today and they said that no spare parts other than for the product sold will be available via dealer network.   So no orderable "Street" handlebars to be installed on the Cafe version.

I guess ebay or aftermarket is the only route left.

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Re: Kawasaki W800 Coming to the States
« Reply #95 on: November 16, 2018, 11:42:23 AM »
I called Kawa today and they said that no spare parts other than for the product sold will be available via dealer network.   So no orderable "Street" handlebars to be installed on the Cafe version.

I guess ebay or aftermarket is the only route left.

You can do what I did when I wanted color matched hand guards for my Red Versys.  I ordered them from a Kawasaki Dealer in the UK.

Since Canada is supposed to get both versions, you could order through them.
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Re: Kawasaki W800 Coming to the States
« Reply #96 on: November 16, 2018, 11:49:45 AM »
Never one to miss an opportunity to heap praise on the W650....  Had my 2000 since new and it is still a blast. 

Really like the idea of the W800 - and I want to jump on the new Royal Enfield Interceptor - but I already have he W650 and it might just be a little redundant.  (Still the Royal Enfield is very affordable....)

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Re: Kawasaki W800 Coming to the States
« Reply #97 on: November 16, 2018, 12:06:57 PM »
You can do what I did when I wanted color matched hand guards for my Red Versys.  I ordered them from a Kawasaki Dealer in the UK.

Since Canada is supposed to get both versions, you could order through them.

Yup, this or aftermarket.

Actually I thought I already read that Canada was going to get the W800 standard version so you might get those stock bars on this side of the pond as well.

But then again aftermarket would likely be fine as well.
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Re: Kawasaki W800 Coming to the States
« Reply #98 on: November 16, 2018, 06:48:43 PM »
I bought my W650 in 2000 and rode it for 7 years/50000 miles.  Troublefree!  I did take a slight bump from a following vehicle in the rear fender and tail light assembly that required that both these parts be replaced.  Since it was an insurance job, I decided to let the dealer make the repair.  I got a call from their service department in slightly less than two weeks.  "OK, I thought.  What's the problem?" 

No problem ..... bike was repaired and ready for pick up.  No, the dealer had none of the body parts in stock, but ordered them through Kaw in Japan.

I was impressed.

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Re: Kawasaki W800 Coming to the States
« Reply #99 on: November 16, 2018, 07:25:49 PM »
I bought my W650 in 2000 and rode it for 7 years/50000 miles.  Troublefree!  I did take a slight bump from a following vehicle in the rear fender and tail light assembly that required that both these parts be replaced.  Since it was an insurance job, I decided to let the dealer make the repair.  I got a call from their service department in slightly less than two weeks.  "OK, I thought.  What's the problem?" 

No problem ..... bike was repaired and ready for pick up.  No, the dealer had none of the body parts in stock, but ordered them through Kaw in Japan.

I was impressed.

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I think Jay got a new rear fender and exhaust for his W650 just last year.
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Re: Kawasaki W800 Coming to the States
« Reply #100 on: November 16, 2018, 07:39:55 PM »
I think Jay got a new rear fender and exhaust for his W650 just last year.

I got a new fender, but, not exhaust.   The original exhaust cleaned pretty nicely with Quick Glo chrome polish.

I got the fender from:
https://www.kawasakipartshouse.com

It did take many weeks for the fender to arrive, unlike service parts ordered from the same place, which showed up in days.
That says to me, that the fender had to be ordered from Japan, but, that the common service parts were in a US warehouse.
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Re: Kawasaki W800 Coming to the States
« Reply #101 on: November 16, 2018, 09:20:36 PM »
I got a new fender, but, not exhaust.   The original exhaust cleaned pretty nicely with Quick Glo chrome polish.

I got the fender from:
https://www.kawasakipartshouse.com

It did take many weeks for the fender to arrive, unlike service parts ordered from the same place, which showed up in days.
That says to me, that the fender had to be ordered from Japan, but, that the common service parts were in a US warehouse.

Of course, that was a ~10 year old, low production bike, that was only sold in the US for 2 years. Still not bad.
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Re: Kawasaki W800 Coming to the States
« Reply #102 on: November 16, 2018, 11:19:28 PM »
Of course, that was a ~10 year old, low production bike, that was only sold in the US for 2 years. Still not bad.

I wasn't complaining.    I was happy to be able to get a new fender from the dealer for this 17 year old bike.
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Re: Kawasaki W800 Coming to the States
« Reply #103 on: November 16, 2018, 11:49:06 PM »
Wait, have we all been bitching about nothing with regards to the paint?!?

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Saw this bike in the flesh today at the Long Beach IMS show.

The paint isn’t matte/flat, it’s a nice metallic brown.

?!?


Oh and Jay, yeah I didn't think you were bitching...
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Re: Kawasaki W800 Coming to the States
« Reply #104 on: November 17, 2018, 01:29:42 AM »
Team Triumph in Janesville, Wis. has a couple of RE 650 twins for the dealers to test ,,,,,,,, a white cafe' and a orange interceptor they aren't certified yet here in the USA
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Re: Kawasaki W800 Coming to the States
« Reply #105 on: November 17, 2018, 06:30:47 AM »
Wait, have we all been bitching about nothing with regards to the paint?!?

?!?


Oh and Jay, yeah I didn't think you were bitching...

Hmmmm.    The first pics, it looked matte, but, then later, I saw some that I could've sworn were gloss.   This confirms it.
OK, well, that looks a lot nicer than my first impression.   

If they see fit to bring the "Street", hopefully, they also see fit to give it better paint, because, it certainly is matte.    At least it comes with a tach (unlike the Stone).




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Re: Kawasaki W800 Coming to the States
« Reply #106 on: November 17, 2018, 06:59:47 AM »
Hmmmm.    The first pics, it looked matte, but, then later, I saw some that I could've sworn were gloss.   This confirms it.
OK, well, that looks a lot nicer than my first impression.   

If they see fit to bring the "Street", hopefully, they also see fit to give it better paint, because, it certainly is matte.    At least it comes with a tach (unlike the Stone).




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Its got flake in it so it will look good polished.  My '11 Versys had Mettalic Flat Spark Black on the tank and I just polished it up since it was too tough to polish the Imperial Red and not touch the tank. 



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Re: Kawasaki W800 Coming to the States
« Reply #107 on: November 17, 2018, 10:50:21 AM »
I still want a bright color gas tank and the engine/tranny silver, polished or chromed!
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Re: Kawasaki W800 Coming to the States
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Re: Kawasaki W800 Coming to the States
« Reply #109 on: November 18, 2018, 02:52:52 AM »
I still want a bright color gas tank and the engine/tranny silver, polished or chromed!
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Re: Kawasaki W800 Coming to the States
« Reply #110 on: November 18, 2018, 10:56:18 AM »
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Exactly, maybe not green but I'd settle for it.  :thumb: That brown or matte with blacked out motor doesn't cut it for me.  :violent1:  Cafe fairing but non-cafe bars - I'm getting old!
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Re: Kawasaki W800 Coming to the States
« Reply #111 on: November 19, 2018, 02:38:15 PM »
16 years ago I bought a new W650, Green and Gold.  It's been gone for years but I still have fond memories of that bike.  I'm glad to see they are finally bringing the W800 into the states but I wish it looked more like my old W or some of the W800's the rest of the world got in recent years.  Comparatively speaking, I think the W800 Cafe is not nearly as well turned out as my V7/50 or for that matter, as good a value.
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Re: Kawasaki W800 Coming to the States
« Reply #112 on: November 30, 2018, 11:24:25 AM »
The more I looked into the W800, I soon realized that there was a bike still readily available here that did everything the W800 does and probably better, and looks just as good if not better?  Bonneville T100 anyone?




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Re: Kawasaki W800 Coming to the States
« Reply #113 on: November 30, 2018, 11:51:10 AM »
The more I looked into the W800, I soon realized that there was a bike still readily available here that did everything the W800 does and probably better, and looks just as good if not better?  Bonneville T100 anyone?





Well again, when people compared the first of the Neo-Bonnies to the W650 a number found the W650 was the "better" bike (smaller, lighter, quicker steering etc.).

And now the T100 is a water-cooled variant, which some might prefer and others not.

But if you prefer air-cooled and want something with a super-sexy bevel cam drive, the current T100 wouldn't fit the bill and the older one might not have been as good a bike.
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Re: Kawasaki W800 Coming to the States
« Reply #114 on: November 30, 2018, 12:36:45 PM »
The bike in the pic is a 2016, that engine is known to go 100K miles, same as the Scrambler, they are heavy but built like tanks, and tons of aftermarket stuff that the W800 will never have...definitely a safer, cheaper, and saner path I think.  Plus, look at that Bonnie!!

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Re: Kawasaki W800 Coming to the States
« Reply #115 on: November 30, 2018, 12:41:34 PM »
The bike in the pic is a 2016, that engine is known to go 100K miles, same as the Scrambler, they are heavy but built like tanks, and tons of aftermarket stuff that the W800 will never have...definitely a safer, cheaper, and saner path I think.  Plus, look at that Bonnie!!

Wait, do we now think a Kawi isn't built to go 100k miles? Hmmm ok.

I guess I'm just saying I see both sides of this. I can see valid arguments for either.

I've ridden both, they're decent bikes, similar, but different.

I wouldn't fault someone for choosing either.
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Re: Kawasaki W800 Coming to the States
« Reply #116 on: November 30, 2018, 05:48:50 PM »
Wait, do we now think a Kawi isn't built to go 100k miles? Hmmm ok.

I've read of several owners in the W650 thread over on ADVRider that have some pretty high miles on their W650's with no major work.
They're very robust.    Mine only has 23k miles on it, so, I guess it'll last me a lifetime, given that I split my miles between several bikes.
I'd trust it to ride cross country.


I guess I'm just saying I see both sides of this. I can see valid arguments for either.

I've ridden both, they're decent bikes, similar, but different.

I've not ridden the older air-cooled Triumphs,only the current (non-R) Thruxton.     Well it had great torque, it was heavy feeling, even compared with the R9T that weighs the same.   The water cooling jacket around the cylinders do mute the mechanical sounds of the motor a good bit.   I expected to like the sound of the 270 degree Triumph motor better than the R9T's boxer, given that the timing of the power pulses is the same as the 90 degree V-twins that I love, but, I found it a bit underwhelming.   The R9T motor sounded a lot better, which surprised me.

I wouldn't fault someone for choosing either.

Nor would I.  In fact, it would probably be best to ride all three (W800, air-cooled Triumph, and water-cooled Triumph), and buy the one you like best!

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Re: Kawasaki W800 Coming to the States
« Reply #117 on: November 30, 2018, 06:30:53 PM »
Wait, do we now think a Kawi isn't built to go 100k miles? Hmmm ok.

I guess I'm just saying I see both sides of this. I can see valid arguments for either.

I've ridden both, they're decent bikes, similar, but different.

I wouldn't fault someone for choosing either.

Can't comment with W800 but in Asia, 650 is EVERYWHERE, and a lot of them are still running since new...

And also as the retro-graze as well as emission rule, most of these older 650 get revived and now running again with decent amount of mileage.

IF W800 follows the 650 footstep, I don't see an issue with being a good high mileage bike.
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Re: Kawasaki W800 Coming to the States
« Reply #118 on: November 30, 2018, 08:48:15 PM »
16 years ago I bought a new W650, Green and Gold.  It's been gone for years but I still have fond memories of that bike.  I'm glad to see they are finally bringing the W800 into the states but I wish it looked more like my old W or some of the W800's the rest of the world got in recent years.  Comparatively speaking, I think the W800 Cafe is not nearly as well turned out as my V7/50 or for that matter, as good a value.
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New riders or both, but I only like a blend of finishes that don’t include black. Not sure what young riders want if anything. I don’t like the V7 stone at all, I like the V7 Special and V7/50 and the Milano.

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Re: Kawasaki W800 Coming to the States
« Reply #119 on: November 30, 2018, 09:28:49 PM »
You right, that V7/50 is way better
The mid size retro market is getting crowded lately, not sure if they’re geared towards us 65 yr olds or the younger
New riders or both, but I only like a blend of finishes that don’t include black. Not sure what young riders want if anything. I don’t like the V7 stone at all, I like the V7 Special and V7/50 and the Milano.

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