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As others have said, be sure to clarify the flat tappet issue. OTOH, it comes with *Dyno tuned Vesrah race brake pads* those alone must be worth half of the purchase price.
The over/under for a low milage 2013 with rollers from the factory is $6K U.S.Roller conversion? I'd rather not...Three bolts take off the wing, six more remove the valve cover and the mystery is solvedFlats Rollers
It's not just an issue with the tappets hard coating wearing/flaking off, it's where the hard coating goes when it comes off.It's worse than putting sand in your oil. Bearing won't like it.
How did you deal with the recall issue? How much did you spend on it? And How did you find which kit was needed, where did you get the kit from ?Thanks.
The ad states it was at 3 different dealers, and no one noticed the factory bulletin on the bike. The owner states washing the bike but doesn't want it in for a service bulletin on engine. Doesn't make seance to me.There is only one model Tenni Griso, it'll be worth the $$. Try to find and buy a Tenni V11 Sport.
Roller kits are still available. Do not ride for 40,000 miles before replacing them. Do not replace them with "new" flat tappets every 10,000 miles.If it's not already rollerised, get it done immediately. Factor the cost into the price. If the seller won't confirm whether they're flat or roller tappets, and won't accept a $1500 reduction in price, walk away.
•Dyno tuned•Vesrah race brake padsThere are no Dyno tuned brake pads. It's supposed to read like this,•Dyno tuned•Vesrah race brake pads
A. I went through the dealer process as I was lucky enough to have one near me. You pay for an "inspection" of the tappets where the dealer takes pictures and sends them to Guzzi for consideration. If Guzzi approves, they did approve mine at about the same mileage as this bike, then they will send the parts to dealer and the dealer will do the install. You get the parts for free but you have to pay the labor. In my case that came to right around $500 as I recall.B. The other approach is to buy the kit yourself and follow the install instructions/video on the Ghetto. As a 2011 the bike probably needs a B kit unless it was very late 2011 and then it would take an A Kit. Looks like the B Kit is in Atlanta as AF! shows it at 5-7 business days. That's $1,300 in parts and your dirty hands.https://www.af1racing.com/Moto-Guzzi-Bucket-Tappet-Update-Kit-B-1A002063C. If you need a dealer or mechanic to install (I would) you are looking at $1,300 in parts and $500 or so in labor. When I bought mine in 2016 I negotiated $1k off and got lucky with the dealer route. My understanding, however, is that the offer from Guzzi to supply the parts might be over with now. You'll just have to check with a dealer.
How attached are you to the Tenni green and tan seat? Vs a "rosso" or "black devil"? Not sure of other countries, but in the US, all the Tenni green Griso's originally came with flat tappets. And since this guy mentioned so much in his ad, and did not mention it had been rollerized, seems a safe bet it is still flat tappets ... but you need to confirm that with the seller. If you don't have to have a Tenni one, then might make sense to get a newer red or black one rollerized from the start bike. 2014 or newer you are 100% safe. In 2013 I've heard earlier ones might be tappets, later 2013 bikes might be rollers, so you would need to verify on a 2013.Another thing to consider is going older to a 2 valve (vs 4 valve head) which doesn't have the flat tappet issue. Would be less money than a 2014+ but also older, but solid bikes.
Oh, one more point on this ... since the OP is in my area ... none of the Moto Guzzi dealerships within ~2-3 hours knows how to do this. The dealer in San Jose has only been a Guzzi dealer ~2 yrs and really just knows how to do basic service. The Elk Grove dealer has been around longer but Guzzi's is a very small thing for them, not sure if they have ever done one. If I was paying a dealer for this, I'd take it to Pro Italia in Southern Cal. When I talked with them ~3 years ago on this topic, the person that answered the phone knew all about it, and knew rough price estimates off the top of his head. And yes that is about a 6 hour road trip to get there.
Not very much attached to Tenni green and tan seat frankly. I am liking your idea of going for model years as you have written in your post ( 2014 + etc ). I saw another griso on cycle trader that may work for me. Going to check on that one. I also like the idea of going with 2-valve models.Let's see which one I am able to get hold off/find. Will keep looking. This seller is not responding to me anyways, so I guess I am getting this bike anyways.
If that's the case, save your $$ and look for an 07/08 4V motor. Oh I know I know some peoples faces will melt off as they scream "the 8V makes much more power" And that is true, especially if you like to live above 6K all the time to enjoy the extra performance. I owned an 8V Norge and 4V Griso at the same time, and other than that top end rush of the 8V, FAR preferred the character and response of the 4V motor even though it was down in power and displacement. After tuning and modifications, removing the Y pipe, custom Beetle Map, I got the Norge to a point where the motor felt and performed more to my liking, but I got the bug for an MGX and traded it for one. I REGRETTED that decision, so sold the MGX and started looking for a 1200 Sport, or 4V Norge. Found my perfect match in Ohioriders 1200 Sport and havent looked back. I've ridden several well sorted 8V Griso's and YES they make more power up top, I still prefer my 4V Griso.Here is my Pro and Con of the 4V/8V8VPro: Top end power (above 6K), slightly better fuel economy, OHC (in head) more modern design.Con: Sounds like a bucket of bolts at idle and low rpm, double the # of adjusters, more complex, crappy spark plug leads, less character below 6K, less 'authentic' Guzzi feel, 4VPro: Bargain entry price, Bulletproof motor, more character and grunt below 6K, easier maintenance, silky smooth and quiet, Cons: Less power above 6K, older design.If you really aren't sold on and committed to the Tenni (I think you are crazy not to, these are RARE and easily sorted) I would seriously look at a 4V.
If that's the case, save your $$ and look for an 07/08 4V motor.
I sent this dude a couple emails and he has not responded
Ok. Interesting behavior by the seller. Why would one put up a for sale ad, and not respond ? beats me. Must be out of town or something.But i don't know whats the deal with this listing. I am not going to waste anymore time on this listing when I can potentially get a cheaper ( And better for my liking ) 4V, 2007/2008, which is what I am searching for now.