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« Last post by swix76 on September 24, 2023, 11:32:19 AM »
I've been thinking about switch from my v7 III to the v9 roamer (instead of the new v7 850). IMO, the Roamer is just a cooler nicer machine than the new v7 850 (like metal fenders, nicer paint, nicer hand controls switches) The roamers handle bars look like they'd provide excellent comfort and control; not too low, not too high with a nice sweep back. The peak torque is low in the rpm range but the torque from what i've seen/heard is pretty much flat though out the rev range. A little more HP than the v7 III. The weight is either lighter or just the same as the v7 III. This is all appealing to me. I am 5'5" and the v7 III has a comfortable riding position for me and I can't see why the v9 wouldn't fit me as well. (The new v7 850 which I have test ridden, seems a little taller and heavier.)
I really like the orangey yellow color but i'd be fine with the white if it was the only one I could find.
I got my v7 III in 2020, 26k miles on the OD and trouble free.
Congrats on the 70k!
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« Last post by Perazzimx14 on September 24, 2023, 10:59:34 AM »
The parts man specifically told me they would not sell me parts to service this Chinese knock-off of a Honda Rebel 250 engine or any other Chinese knock-off without a Honda VIN. Iirc, I believe we eventually found the relevant Honda part number and still could not get this dealer to sell us that specific part without a VIN to attach to the account/order. He told me that having a Honda VIN magically materialize for that parts request after we had admitted it was not for a Honda wouldn’t work either. As a company policy, they were not going to knowingly provide support for the knock-off bikes. We ran into similar issues trying to service an Agra Cat 4 wheeler, not to be confused with the Arctic Cat 4 wheeler that it “emulated.” Both machines left like they came to us, for lack of parts availability.
Whether the genuine parts would have fixed the china versions, we had our doubts. Running manufacturing changes in the cheap/disposable Chinese recreational vehicles, from scooters to early hyosung larger displacement 2 & 4-wheelers, meant that nearly everything was batch produced. Once a specific part changed, it was NLA unless you harvested it from another bike in that same production batch. For example, If you ordered a container of 20-40 scooters, they may represent a single batch or 2-3 batches. The area distributor would reserve some machines to be his new parts inventory, but there was no guarantee that the piece he took from bike a for bike b would fit. Everything was disposable. Lifan machines seem to be better, but that’s for someone else to deal with and verify.
We came to think that the running changes had more to do with a variety of small suppliers filling orders for a similar variety of small manufacturing facilities. At the end, they badged and added VINs so all of these disparate machines became the same superficial model. As a result, they’re all disposable as soon as something more significant than a cable or a brake pad dies. We didn’t like or solicit working on them, but had a lot of people needing help. 99% weren’t riding those machines as a preferred life situation. Most of the time, we could do little to help them.
Could you just order parts online and skip the dealer drama. I mean it's not like they have the parts in stock and would have to order them the same as you??
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« Last post by izzug otom on September 24, 2023, 10:44:16 AM »
, no discernible play, bearings are shimmed and that big nut is tight
But there must be some backlash between gears.
Get the flange out and all becomes obvious
If tight, don’t chisel it apart, hold pinion shaft with soft jaw grips and belt box off with rubber hammer
Thanks, I've got my rubber mallet out of my camping gear, I'll have a go at removing the pinion carrier and report back 
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« Last post by rrojaswahl on September 24, 2023, 10:01:05 AM »
Many thanks for all the thoughtful comments - and good points all about.  Did about 2500 miles on a recent tour - new wheel and axle are holding up well so far... Keeping fingers x-ssd. Cheers, Roy, Saddle River, NJ
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« Last post by slowmover on September 24, 2023, 09:24:09 AM »
Cold. On a 2010 Classic
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« Last post by cliffrod on September 24, 2023, 08:31:01 AM »
Im sure its just the way the parts catalog is laid out. There are so many variations of parts that that is the best way to look them up. The problem lays in finding what part will fit that other engine. It can be done, and im sure a good parts guy with experience can do it, but whos going to eat the part on a guess that went wrong?
The parts man specifically told me they would not sell me parts to service this Chinese knock-off of a Honda Rebel 250 engine or any other Chinese knock-off without a Honda VIN. Iirc, I believe we eventually found the relevant Honda part number and still could not get this dealer to sell us that specific part without a VIN to attach to the account/order. He told me that having a Honda VIN magically materialize for that parts request after we had admitted it was not for a Honda wouldn’t work either. As a company policy, they were not going to knowingly provide support for the knock-off bikes. We ran into similar issues trying to service an Agra Cat 4 wheeler, not to be confused with the Arctic Cat 4 wheeler that it “emulated.” Both machines left like they came to us, for lack of parts availability. Whether the genuine parts would have fixed the china versions, we had our doubts. Running manufacturing changes in the cheap/disposable Chinese recreational vehicles, from scooters to early hyosung larger displacement 2 & 4-wheelers, meant that nearly everything was batch produced. Once a specific part changed, it was NLA unless you harvested it from another bike in that same production batch. For example, If you ordered a container of 20-40 scooters, they may represent a single batch or 2-3 batches. The area distributor would reserve some machines to be his new parts inventory, but there was no guarantee that the piece he took from bike a for bike b would fit. Everything was disposable. Lifan machines seem to be better, but that’s for someone else to deal with and verify. We came to think that the running changes had more to do with a variety of small suppliers filling orders for a similar variety of small manufacturing facilities. At the end, they badged and added VINs so all of these disparate machines became the same superficial model. As a result, they’re all disposable as soon as something more significant than a cable or a brake pad dies. We didn’t like or solicit working on them, but had a lot of people needing help. 99% weren’t riding those machines as a preferred life situation. Most of the time, we could do little to help them.
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« Last post by s1120 on September 24, 2023, 07:03:13 AM »
Can’t verify that but can attest that the local Honda dealership would only supply Honda parts for a bike if we supplied with the VIN.
A few years ago, We were working on a Chinese knock-off that belonged to a customer and inquired for a few engine parts. The dealership that we called required a Honda VIN. We didn’t have one so they said they couldn’t help us. Whether it is a local or corporate policy, I don’t know. But it stopped us from fixing that bike with Honda parts from that dealership..
Im sure its just the way the parts catalog is laid out. There are so many variations of parts that that is the best way to look them up. The problem lays in finding what part will fit that other engine. It can be done, and im sure a good parts guy with experience can do it, but whos going to eat the part on a guess that went wrong?
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« Last post by n3303j on September 24, 2023, 06:54:33 AM »
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« Last post by Dirk_S on September 24, 2023, 06:34:05 AM »
Don’t know the V85…but why is there a ujoint in a straight shaft?
I’ve never machined, blueprinted or forged anything, but does that make sense?
Is there a second uj in the engine case?
All the new Guzzis have double UJs now. The V9 and V85TT had one from the start, and the V7 adopted it in the 850 update.
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Don’t know the V85…but why is there a ujoint in a straight shaft?
I’ve never machined, blueprinted or forged anything, but does that make sense?
Is there a second uj in the engine case?
One simple word, suspension Time will tell but latest looks to me best system of final drive used by Guzzi ever Carcano’s 66 was good, Tonti’s 77 SB not bad, take or leave yer spineys and carcs, I like the v85 version
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