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Title: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: Bulldog9 on January 12, 2021, 10:04:15 AM
Once scoffed at, I'm seeing a bunch of talk related to airbag vests. Anyone using these? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_SYPHcZUCw
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: Dirk_S on January 12, 2021, 10:20:37 AM
My friend does, and is thankful everyday for it. I may in the future. Funny that you say ďscoffed at.Ē Iím not an ATGATT chap, but I certainly wouldnít poo-poo anyone for wanting more protection.
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: Vagrant on January 12, 2021, 11:03:35 AM
I for one certainly wish I had one on in 2010 when I crashed in Alaska breaking 1 rib on the left and for sure 10 on the right. Should have been dead.
Now I am seriously thinking about the Helite but # one problem in the south is heat. I have two different air mesh jackets and I pick the one based on the high temps for the day. Also a normal riding jacket for cool weather. There sure isn't room between the overgrown belly and the jacket to work properly so it needs to be on the outside and it has to let lots of air through. If it's under a grand it should make sense for everybody.
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: cookiemech on January 12, 2021, 11:47:53 AM
I have two of the Helite vests (one is larger to fit over a bulkier suit and the other is better over a mesh suit in hot weather). Eight bikes and eight tethers.

I don't wish to find out if they work; I'll take their word for it.
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: erich on January 12, 2021, 11:53:49 AM
I wear a Helite Turtle since 2018. Mainly to avoid studying the multitude of conventional torso protectors. Do not forget to take a spare CO2 cartridge with you, the vest might deploy in less than spectacular circumstances (on my first trip with the vest I nearly fell off a parking house ramp at stalling speed). Worn over a mesh jacket (Dainese Air Frame D1) our 95įF are no big problem.  The vest must be worn on the outside, and not too tight anyway. If a remember correctly your fist should fit between the vest and your belly. The vest is quite sturdy, I notice no flutter up to my 85mph.
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: kingoffleece on January 12, 2021, 12:23:05 PM
I have the Helight vest.  It's fairly loose and I get enough air in summer with a vented jacket.
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: cloudbase on January 12, 2021, 01:39:18 PM
I have a Hit-Air jacket and a vest as well.  The jacket has been semi-retired, and the vest goes over the Roadcrafter jacket.
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: Moparnut72 on January 12, 2021, 03:40:58 PM
My wife has been ragging on me to get one. One of her friends hit a deer last summer while wearing one and escaped with only a broken rib. He figured he may have died if he hadn't had it on.
kk
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: Ncdan on January 12, 2021, 04:17:00 PM
The concept is spot on and is definitely a good idea. However for me personally it would probably be like the BPV issued back in the day, I just simply couldnít tolerate wearing it all the time and Iíd probably be the same with the air vest. That said, if one can afford it and tolerate wearing it itís probably a great addition to the standard safety gear.
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: LowRyter on January 12, 2021, 05:11:29 PM
I want one.  I'm only afraid I'll forget I have it on, get off the bike to run to the toilet ....

.....and PPPPPpppppppHHHHHT !!!!!!!    :sad:
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: rschrum on January 12, 2021, 06:11:19 PM
My wife bought me one of these. I don't ride without it.

(https://i.ibb.co/5xwv8nZ/smart-jacket-black-fluo.png) (https://ibb.co/5xwv8nZ)
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: Gliderjohn on January 12, 2021, 09:00:14 PM
Seriously considering one of these things as I am now 65 and literally thin skinned and bruise very easy. Appreciate the thread and the feedbacks.
GliderJohn
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: AJ Huff on January 12, 2021, 09:22:10 PM
Other than difference in price, the choice between an air bag best vs air bag jacket, is one more desirable or advantageous that the other?

-AJ
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: cloudbase on January 12, 2021, 09:49:11 PM
Other than difference in price, the choice between an air bag best vs air bag jacket, is one more desirable or advantageous that the other?

-AJ

It's going to boil down to personal preference.  My jacket was heavy and not well vented.  While it was water resistant, it wasn't water proof, and got kind of soggy after a whole day in the rain.  The move to the vest allowed me to have the Roadcrafter's venting and water proof attributes and still have the extra advantage of the airbag.
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: egschade on January 13, 2021, 07:20:03 AM
I understand the need for added protection but am still on the fence. Thinking that a rib vest is sufficient for now. $25 on Amazon

(https://i.ibb.co/yF0YwjD/Screenshot-2021-01-13-Amazon-com-Adidas-Techfit-Ironskin-Mens-3-Pad-Football-Tank-2-XL-Onix-Light-On.png) (https://ibb.co/yF0YwjD)
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: LongRanger on January 13, 2021, 09:00:28 AM
Iíve been using a Helite Turtle vest since 2018. Itís part of my ATGATT kit and I wouldnít ride without it. It has deployed once and saved me. My only regret was not carrying a spare CO2 cartridge at the time so I could rearm it. Now I do. Three bikes, three tethers.
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: Vagrant on January 13, 2021, 09:59:59 AM
Does the helite use a standard cheap co2
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: usedtobefast on January 13, 2021, 10:43:10 AM
I've thought about these too ... but ... any real proof that they work?  Meaning, know anyone that crashed, that would have most likely been a rib breaker crash (requires guessing/speculation) but their airbag vest saved them from injury?

Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: egschade on January 13, 2021, 11:13:47 AM
I've thought about these too ... but ... any real proof that they work?  Meaning, know anyone that crashed, that would have most likely been a rib breaker crash (requires guessing/speculation) but their airbag vest saved them from injury?

Here's a testimonial that ran on Motorcycle.com https://www.motorcycle.com/editorial-2/why-ill-never-ride-without-a-motorcycle-airbag-again.html (https://www.motorcycle.com/editorial-2/why-ill-never-ride-without-a-motorcycle-airbag-again.html)
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: cloudbase on January 13, 2021, 11:43:55 AM
I've thought about these too ... but ... any real proof that they work?  Meaning, know anyone that crashed, that would have most likely been a rib breaker crash (requires guessing/speculation) but their airbag vest saved them from injury?

I will personally vouch for their effectiveness.
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: LongRanger on January 13, 2021, 08:49:27 PM
Does the helite use a standard cheap co2
I donít know if theyíre ďstandard,Ē but theyíre about $25-$30 each depending on the size of your vest. I buy mine from Revzilla. And extra tethers, one per bike, are a couple of bucks each.

I too can vouch for the effectiveness of the Helite Turtle. This isnít unlike a helmet vs. no helmet debate. Which do you prefer?
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: drdwb on January 14, 2021, 03:43:50 PM
I have 2 seasons on my Hit Air coat, never gone off inadvertently. Carry spare cartridge havent even tested it. I too will take their word it works. A couple friends also have them and they tested them. They blow up as advertised. I purchased the coat vs the vest because when I tried the vest over my Aerostitch it just seemed to bulky. I do miss the rain protection and air vents of the Stitch, but itís a trade off Iím living with. I believe the Ideal would be Aerostitch with the airbag inside, but I donít see that coming.
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: Canuck750 on January 14, 2021, 03:54:33 PM
I have been seriously thinking about getting an airbag jacket or vest, the one concern I have is forgetting to untether it once I stop and get off the bike, like at a gas station. If the bike is stationary how easy is for for the system to deploy from a yank on the tether?
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: Markcarovilli on January 14, 2021, 05:33:45 PM
I have been seriously thinking about getting an airbag jacket or vest, the one concern I have is forgetting to untether it once I stop and get off the bike, like at a gas station. If the bike is stationary how easy is for for the system to deploy from a yank on the tether?

This is no problem- I have one and do it all the time, forget.  It will tug you to let you know and Iíve never set it off.  Now if you jump off and run like you canít hold it in to get to bathroom, then all bets are off....

I have vest and find it versatile to put over different gear.

Mark
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: Canuck750 on January 14, 2021, 05:44:36 PM
This is no problem- I have one and do it all the time, forget.  It will tug you to let you know and Iíve never set it off.  Now if you jump off and run like you canít hold it in to get to bathroom, then all bets are off....

I have vest and find it versatile to put over different gear.

Mark

Thanks Mark!

Jim
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: Moparnut72 on January 14, 2021, 06:29:04 PM
I wondered about that too. My wife wants me to get one.
kk
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: Gliderjohn on January 14, 2021, 08:38:03 PM
Higher end ones do not use tethers but sensors instead. Much like a six axis system on some motorcycles.
GliderJohn
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: Bulldog9 on January 14, 2021, 09:20:14 PM
I have been seriously thinking about getting an airbag jacket or vest, the one concern I have is forgetting to untether it once I stop and get off the bike, like at a gas station. If the bike is stationary how easy is for for the system to deploy from a yank on the tether?

This would be a daily occurrence for me if I wore one with a tether. I'm on the fence about them. I see the value in use, and likely would have been helpful with my one get off in 40 years of riding, but not sure I want to add another thing to think about maintaining.

I always wear a jacket with good road abrasion and padding protection including a back protector. I'm more worried about my knees and hips at this point.

But the idea is intriguing and I was reading an article about the new klim air vest, so figured I'd ask. It seems that the untethered models are going to be a daily recharge item or every other day.

As always, appreciate the dialogue and insights.

Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: Canuck750 on January 14, 2021, 10:06:50 PM
I have watched a couple different reviews / products, I like the Alpinstars Air Tech 5 Vest, not cheap but I think I am going to get one for this years riding season.
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: erich on January 15, 2021, 03:57:24 AM
AFAIK theory says that back protection should go from the neck to to the very end of the spine (coccyx?). I suppose that those long insectoid protectors can be worn only when riding sport style - lying on the tank. My vest promises protection from the neck to the buttocks while sitting upright (just mount the bike and pull the back flap from under you), plus some hip protection. I have no hip protection in my pants, as I leave them on for walking and sightseeing.
@ setting it off inadvertedly: the tether has to be quite short, so when rising I feel the tug immediately, before the bent knees can exert much force (happens all the time).
More important is to not forget to close the tether before riding ;) 
The system (Helite Turtle) is analog and simple. Instructions say to weigh the cartridges before the riding season. Did it on our kitchen scales.
I do not know if the vest will work as expected, it is more a matter of doing the right thing and peace of mind (and laziness).
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: LongRanger on January 15, 2021, 07:47:17 AM
I have found that detaching the tether when you want to hop off the bike is no more evasive than unbuckling your seatbelt before you get out of your car. After a few times, it becomes automatic.
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: AJ Huff on January 15, 2021, 11:19:55 AM
For two up riding, where would the passenger tether?
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: ajpjive on January 15, 2021, 11:44:10 AM
Shouldnít be too much of a hassle for a pillion. For my 1150GS and Versys, I keep the passenger tether under the seat most of the time. If I have a pillion, I just pull out the cord, & they clip in. Itís attached under the seat and just snakes up from underneath.
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: egschade on January 15, 2021, 04:37:01 PM
Higher end ones do not use tethers but sensors instead. Much like a six axis system on some motorcycles.
GliderJohn

Wonder if it would deploy in a slip and fall situation...
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: SEG on January 15, 2021, 05:39:44 PM
I have been using a Helite Turtle vest for about five years.  I don't ride without it.  I wear it over a mesh jacket in the summer, and over an Aerostich 1 piece Roadcrafter Classic during other parts of the year.  Connecting the tether becomes (for the most part) second nature.  Fortunately, I have no experience with it being deployed, but I expect that it would work as advertised.  I suppose that in a slow speed tip-over that didn't separate me from the bike, it would not deploy.  I can live with that; I have the air bag vest for the faster speed get-offs, or an accident involving another vehicle.  For peace of mind, and for less than the cost of an ambulance ride, it's well worth it.  Regarding the CO2 canister: I called Helite and inquired how long the canister should last; I was told at least five years, and possibly up to ten.  I'm going to replace the original canister at the five year mark.
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: Vagrant on February 08, 2021, 03:12:56 PM
I finally gave in and ordered the Helite from Motorcycle gear. They were the only ones with a sale price and a $33. rebate card to be used later. As soon as I confirmed the fit I called and used the $33 to buy an extra co2 cartridge and extra teather.
I leave for Az tomorrow with the V85. the 2001 Ev is sitting there waiting for me so time will tell.
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: cookiemech on February 08, 2021, 03:21:44 PM
I think you'll find that after a while, donning the vest and snapping it to the tether becomes as routine as putting on a helmet and snugging down the D-ring.

Hope you never find out if it works!
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: CTPAINTER on February 09, 2021, 08:30:34 AM
Getting two this spring, my wife and I.  AlpineStars tech 5. It's been in my head for awhile, seems like a no brainer when I think of the regret I'd have if something happened without one.
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: rschrum on February 09, 2021, 09:14:05 AM
Cycle gear has these on sale.

(https://i.ibb.co/pQZ4nCT/Screenshot-2.png) (https://ibb.co/pQZ4nCT)
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: Trialsman on February 09, 2021, 09:40:40 AM
I remember seeing a prototype at a show a long time ago (20yrs?) but it was pretty crude.  I forgot about it until I saw a post on this issue on another site.  I looked into the Klim until I found it was a huge subscription fee to get all those sensors to work.  I looked at tether ones and happen to find a used one in almost new condition so I bought it.  I got the Hit-Air vest with three extra CO2 canisters.  I choose it because it has an extra flap/cushion for the head/neck and one for the lumbar region.  It weighs very little and is comfortable over my jackets.  I intend to put some matching Velcro strips on my jackets to correspond to the areas on the vest for armor attachment.  In that way I will be able to remove the jacket and the vest will stay in place.  Overall I think it is a good idea and am looking forward to using it.  I have already installed the anchor tether straps to the V85TT, Norge, and the Berg.
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: andyals on February 09, 2021, 10:07:10 AM
I've heard that the next big thing being developed is a suit which upon impact envelopes the rider in a giant rubber ball complete with air supply and a week's worth of food and water rations 👍

Honestly if you're that worried about it take the car.
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: Dirk_S on February 09, 2021, 10:12:45 AM
Honestly if you're that worried about it take the car.

I'm not an ATGATT type (yet), but I also don't think that this is a good response to those looking to enjoy the benefits of motorcycling while being as safe as they wish to be. We can look at T.E. Lawrence and the progression of the helmet, armour, et al for reference. If you want to be a squid, be a squid. If you want to surround yourself in a bouncy ball of safety, do that. Let folks enjoy motorcycling to the level of safety they wish.
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: egschade on February 09, 2021, 11:09:03 AM
What would be the concern with buying a used but never deployed vest? I know someone getting out of cycling who will sell me his.
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: Motormike on February 09, 2021, 01:40:56 PM
I've been looking at the Helite Adventure Jacket as a good winter and cool-weather riding jacket.  It's being discounted around $100 by several on-line vendors. Even with the discount it's still a $900 dollar item...ouch! (but cheaper than an ambulance ride, no doubt) I want a jacket that is 100% waterproof without liners though. I have no idea how well the Helite sheds water.  I hate having to stop and fool with rain jackets, liners and such.  Usually end up getting soaked before I decide to stop and put them on.  Pity the Helite isn't gore-tex, I'd spend the money on it.  Another problem is, in hot weather, I tend to ride with my 3/4 length jackets partly unzipped to get some airflow.  I'd imagine that would be a big no-no on an airbag jacket.  Any inflation might pull the zipper completely open or apart.
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: Sasquatch Jim on February 09, 2021, 05:22:59 PM
If it goes off accidentally you will be a stuffed shirt.
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: Bulldog9 on February 10, 2021, 11:57:01 AM
Great discussion so far. I'm still on the fence on these, but leaning towards the newest version of the Dainese or Klim untethered models rather than ones with a tether. I will likely only use it on longer multi day trips, and know how dumb and forgetful I am. I have the muscle memory and autonomous actions ingrained and know the 'accidental' deployments would make me miserable.

Seems I have no space in my scrambled grey matter for new TTP's.
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: Socalrob on February 12, 2021, 05:50:57 AM
Great discussion so far. I'm still on the fence on these, but leaning towards the newest version of the Dainese or Klim untethered models rather than ones with a tether. I will likely only use it on longer multi day trips, and know how dumb and forgetful I am. I have the muscle memory and autonomous actions ingrained and know the 'accidental' deployments would make me miserable.

Seems I have no space in my scrambled grey matter for new TTP's.

My Newport Beach place is just down the street from a large Dianese corporate store.  I tend to buy Dianese jackets for that reason.  My winter/spring/touring textile Dianese coat, while pricey, lasted about 10 years and one freeway slide, needing only a minor repair. 

So I went by a few weeks ago and bought a new textile coat, touring style, gortex, with built in airbag.  Very pricey, but has good coverage in shoulder and neck area.  I am recovering from a heart attack in November, and have a new pacemaker/defibrillator.  I have lost 46 lbs, and now the device feels right at the surface (no more layers of fat) in my shoulder.  I figure the airbag may offer some protection to getting the device scrapped out.

Have not got the jacket yet, looks very nice, but is heavy and I doubt it will flow enough air for SoCal summers.  We shall see.

No subscription fee, but it is $250 to reset if it goes off.
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: andyals on February 12, 2021, 09:39:10 AM
I'm not an ATGATT type (yet), but I also don't think that this is a good response to those looking to enjoy the benefits of motorcycling while being as safe as they wish to be. We can look at T.E. Lawrence and the progression of the helmet, armour, et al for reference. If you want to be a squid, be a squid. If you want to surround yourself in a bouncy ball of safety, do that. Let folks enjoy motorcycling to the level of safety they wish.

Oh yeah sure but where does it end and at what point do those of us who choose not to use this gear get chastised by those who do.
Its already started actually.
Endless discussions condemning those who don't wrap themselves up in 1.5mm CE approved leather suits of armour have become the enemies of biking.
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: drdwb on February 12, 2021, 09:56:52 AM

While I am an ATGATT guy I do not shame others who arenít. Riders make their own decisions, I do cringe (and perhaps judge the intelligence) when I see riders and passengers both young and old ridding in flip flops, shorts, t shirts...just like now in - 30F Mn weather walking around in summer attire...without gloves,hats and parkas. But unless they are my children or family I hold my tongue. People have the right to make such choices, I grew up a Boy Scout and try to be prepared, cus shit happens.


Oh yeah sure but where does it end and at what point do those of us who choose not to use this gear get chastised by those who do.
Its already started actually.
Endless discussions condemning those who don't wrap themselves up in 1.5mm CE approved leather suits of armour have become the enemies of biking.
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: AJ Huff on June 23, 2021, 04:26:23 PM
Wanted to come back to this as I was looking at them today possibly for my daughter. I may have misunderstood air-bag vests. Looking at Dainese, Klim, and Alpine Star, they sell vests that go UNDER any jacket. I was thinking vests were worn over a jacket. I believe all three of these brands are using a tetherless technology, "smart" technology.

-AJ
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: Dirk_S on June 23, 2021, 04:30:37 PM
After watching EMTs give the lifeless body of a motorcyclist CPR for over 10 minutes after being hit at an intersection only 2 blocks away from me, I finally pulled the switch and got the Hit-Air vest. The Hit-Air is tethered, and MUST fit over any existing jacket in order to inflate properly. I like it, although I know it wouldnít cover the initial collision impact should I be t-boned et al.
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: AJ Huff on June 23, 2021, 06:42:53 PM
I think it's the way to go also. I'm intrigued by the under jacket vests. Though. Was not aware they even existed.

-AJ
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: Vagrant on June 23, 2021, 06:51:01 PM
I've put 10000 miles on the Hellite since Feb. Heavy on the shoulders, sometimes I'm too dumb to hook up the teather, but I'd buy it again. Over the jacket although I do put a big wind breaker over it when very cold.
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: averb on June 23, 2021, 09:01:54 PM
Here is a review of motorcycle airbags
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2jZryt607U
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: AJ Huff on June 23, 2021, 09:55:10 PM
Here is a review of motorcycle airbags
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2jZryt607U

Thanks for that.

-AJ
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: AJ Huff on June 23, 2021, 10:48:59 PM
That video made good points. The battery issue with the Alpine Star is I think a non-issue for our needs but a good point to consider. But hands down it looks like the Helite is the way to go. I guess I need to analyze Helite vs. Hit Air.

At this point it won't matter for me due to sizing issues but my daughter is starting to show the first signs of interest. If she's serious I would quickly upgrade her to an airbag system so she's used to it from the get go. Probably a full jacket rather than the vest. We'll see.

-AJ
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: CTPAINTER on June 25, 2021, 09:25:13 AM
Wonder if it would deploy in a slip and fall situation...

Yes, happened to my brother, awkwardly sort of fell backwards, next thing he knew, poof!
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: egschade on June 28, 2021, 03:27:43 PM
Has anyone used or have any insight into the effectiveness and quality of the 'cheap' tethered vests? Certainly a $120 vest will not be as good as a $500 one but is it even close?

This one received similar scores and reviews to the Hit Air at 25% the cost: https://www.amazon.com/Motorcycle-Professional-Advanced-motocross-protective/dp/B082RRMGXC/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=airbag%2Bvest&qid=1624911844&sr=8-3&th=1 (https://www.amazon.com/Motorcycle-Professional-Advanced-motocross-protective/dp/B082RRMGXC/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=airbag%2Bvest&qid=1624911844&sr=8-3&th=1)
Title: Re: Who's using an airbag vest?
Post by: Dirk_S on June 28, 2021, 04:02:58 PM
Has anyone used or have any insight into the effectiveness and quality of the 'cheap' tethered vests? Certainly a $120 vest will not be as good as a $500 one but is it even close?

This one received similar scores and reviews to the Hit Air at 25% the cost: https://www.amazon.com/Motorcycle-Professional-Advanced-motocross-protective/dp/B082RRMGXC/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=airbag%2Bvest&qid=1624911844&sr=8-3&th=1 (https://www.amazon.com/Motorcycle-Professional-Advanced-motocross-protective/dp/B082RRMGXC/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=airbag%2Bvest&qid=1624911844&sr=8-3&th=1)

Iíd be very skeptical how theyíre cutting the cost. And when it comes to protective equipment that could save my life, Iím not sure I necessarily be game for those cost cuts. That said, if airbags cost $3000, I most likely would never buy one.