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Old bike, tracktime
« on: July 01, 2021, 09:12:16 PM »
   Hey Guys, I need the collective wisdom of the forum members. I just bought a '85 Guzzi, I think it has an automatic transmission. It has the original tires and shocks and I think they should be replaced because I want to do track time at Summit Raceway. I'd appreciate any input from you guys on my problem. My budget is $250.00, 300 max. I know I can depend on everyone to set me up properly. Thanx in advance.

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Re: Old bike, tracktime
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2021, 09:45:57 PM »
I know nothing about setting a bike up for the track, but model information and pictures will be very helpful. Best of luck with it.
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Re: Old bike, tracktime
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2021, 11:08:24 PM »
   If I'm going to race, I need a pit crew. 1Lackey: To clean and polish the rims, to keep the tires, hand grips, and foot pegs looking smart with Armour All.   1 Phd engineer to keep oil level up and gas in the tank. 2 Nubi----OOPS! to position the beach umbrella to keep owner/rider in the shade, the other to waft the large palm frond to keep owner/rider cool. 1Medic to ensure owner/rider has clean under ware on in the event he has to be removed from embankment. { Bridgehampton experience}  1Personal Attendant to keep Tom Collins coming. Any of the above can push the bike to and from the pits. In the near future I'll be recruiting volunteers. I'm sure this is how Mike Tiberio did it in the "Old Days"

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Re: Old bike, tracktime
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2021, 05:57:29 AM »
   Hey Guys, I need the collective wisdom of the forum members. I just bought a '85 Guzzi, I think it has an automatic transmission. It has the original tires and shocks and I think they should be replaced because I want to do track time at Summit Raceway. I'd appreciate any input from you guys on my problem. My budget is $250.00, 300 max. I know I can depend on everyone to set me up properly. Thanx in advance.

Your problem is you're too cheap to do track days. Flush and bleed brakes with dot 4 or dot 5.1 (don't use 5). Yes get rid of the tyres limited choice in the sizes Avon Super Venom used to be the go to. Check swing arm bearing head stem bearings, wheel bearings, I'd also really recommend riding around on the road for a bit if its new to you and make sure nothing is on the edge of failure. Shock Ikon might do something really you need to get them sprung for you and the bikes weight. Although due to its weight and geometry its never going to be actually any good, a Ninja 300 would probably be a better choice if you want to go fast.

Front end if you are handy you might look at grafting on the front end from a modern sports bike you'll get better brakes lighter front wheel more tyre choice and modern forks all in the one deal.

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Re: Old bike, tracktime
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2021, 05:57:29 AM »

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Re: Old bike, tracktime
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2021, 06:29:08 AM »
Bravo  :thumb:
Dont replace the tires, new rubber is so over rated, wear them old ones out.
I took an old California II to a similar event, the Instructor was amazed how well it went, braking especially with the linked brakes.
Wish I could be there to crew for you but I'm not pretty enough.
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Re: Old bike, tracktime
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2021, 07:59:38 AM »
Does it have a radiator on the front down tubes? Then yes it's an automatic know as a flying carpet.
It flies really slow like a butterfly so you'll be last in any race on track.
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Re: Old bike, tracktime
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2021, 08:15:08 AM »
Bravo  :thumb:
Dont replace the tires, new rubber is so over rated, wear them old ones out.
I took an old California II to a similar event, the Instructor was amazed how well it went, braking especially with the linked brakes.
Wish I could be there to crew for you but I'm not pretty enough.

Well if he turns it into a pile of scrap at the third corner he won't have to worry about the expense of replacing anything. Although the expense of the US medical system reputation proceeds it, that might no be so cheap.

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Re: Old bike, tracktime
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2021, 08:17:46 AM »
   Hey Guys, I need the collective wisdom of the forum members. I just bought a '85 Guzzi, I think it has an automatic transmission. It has the original tires and shocks and I think they should be replaced because I want to do track time at Summit Raceway. I'd appreciate any input from you guys on my problem. My budget is $250.00, 300 max. I know I can depend on everyone to set me up properly. Thanx in advance.

Is today April 1?  :shocked:
I can't think of any bike less suited to track time/racing. But if this is not some strange kind of joke DEFINITELY replace the tires!
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Re: Old bike, tracktime
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2021, 01:10:23 PM »
Enzo? Izzat you??
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Re: Old bike, tracktime
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2021, 03:26:15 PM »
New tires for sure. Good suggestion on fresh brake fluid too, DOT4 or better. Stock valve springs? Keep it under 7k RPM. Get better ones if you want to go faster than that.

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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2021, 03:34:36 PM »
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Re: Old bike, tracktime
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2021, 04:09:58 PM »
If you buy tires, the wad for racing is gone. You ought to look at prices today, not 30yrs ago. Converts as in 85 Cal2 have a real heavy flywheel. To compete that will need 20# cut off, that will put you in the RED. Usually for a real race Guzzi w/a 5spd. you better get 3 grand for motor & drivetrain NOT $250.
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Re: Old bike, tracktime
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2021, 04:24:51 PM »
This is easy-

If you just buy (and drink...) $230 of gin and give a buddy $20 & maybe a little of said gin to tell you and everyone else how much & well you did whenever you were all ginned up,  you're all set.   

Btw- I like gin and could use an easy $20....



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Re: Old bike, tracktime
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2021, 05:07:28 PM »
It's your lucky day.  I happen to be a old hand (lost one of 'em in a deli accident.) at track days.

First of all son, don't listen to those nabobs of negativity. Shifting is for losers who can't afford automatics. Look at Europe -almost all sticks because everybody's on welfare!

Here are the top four tips ever:

1: Change the tires- front one on the back and back one on the front.
2:Spray it red - THE hot tip for higher top end speed.
3: A cigar smoking woodpecker sticker on the tank really impresses the women folk and intimidates the opposition.  Add a bullet hole sticker too for street cred.
4: I happen to have a few precision fuel line magnets available (only a few left.)  which improve engine efficiency and performance by making gasoline more "receptive" to combustion.  Guaranteed 536% more power or double your magnets back. And coincidentally they are on sale right now for exactly what your budget is. Order today and I'll throw in a premium carbon fiber like container of lightweight red spray paint. This is a 100% factory original precision coating as could be used on Italian performance bikes such as the Dookatsies and Lavernyas.

Bonus tip:  Always inspect your brake shoes and socks before motoring on to the track. 

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Re: Old bike, tracktime
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2021, 06:05:42 PM »
I'm sure there are some riders here that could run that old girl around the track leaving quite a few young riders in their wake, JB for instance would be scrapping the crash bars.
It would be fun to watch as long as the convert never had to scrub off its speed in the corners.
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