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Re: B11/Norge Startus Interruptus-the MPH Solution
« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2011, 06:34:59 PM »
 We will have a batch of 8 ready to ship on Monday of the version with no relay.  I had to upgrade my used bikes dept first!
  25 bux shipped in the CONUS.
 I have more components on order and we will make more when they arrive next week.  It was a test  balloon,  and I see you guys want  it.  So we will do it,  and ship them out as ASAP.
 The relay does serve a purpose, my bike would get the relay because of the voltage drop noted.
Several guys have already done the mods as posted before. The idea here is to make it  as easy and not scary as it can be made.  If you are OK with wiring mods, you don't need this, if you don't relish  cutting wire on your bike , you can use it.  Its not rocket surgery but it does work. 
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Re: B11/Norge Startus Interruptus-the MPH Solution
« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2011, 07:43:58 PM »
We want to see rocket surgery!  Dammit!

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Re: B11/Norge Startus Interruptus-the MPH Solution
« Reply #32 on: August 19, 2011, 09:44:54 PM »
Yeah, well Rocket Surgery ain't nothin' compared to Brain Science.




( or something like that )


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Re: B11/Norge Startus Interruptus-the MPH Solution
« Reply #33 on: August 20, 2011, 04:32:43 AM »
I can't decide whether I want to be a Brain Surgeon or a Soda Jerk.  Jethro on The Beverly Hillbillies ca. 1964
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Re: B11/Norge Startus Interruptus-the MPH Solution
« Reply #33 on: August 20, 2011, 04:32:43 AM »

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Re: B11/Norge Startus Interruptus-the MPH Solution
« Reply #34 on: August 20, 2011, 09:30:07 PM »
Ill take one too Mike left me know when you get downto my name Pic.
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Re: B11/Norge Startus Interruptus-the MPH Solution
« Reply #35 on: August 21, 2011, 03:47:35 AM »
  After some peer review I have modified the  part to eliminate the relay.  I put it there because of the low Kl.15 voltage  I measured  on all the bikes. I have seen as much as a 6V drop on this circuit.  Maybe I am over thinking it a bit.  I hate voltage drops on anything.
  It seems that Wayne's fixes have not seen any other effects of that low voltage, and this new set up simply addresses the low voltage to the start relay and not  supplementing  the whole bikes Kl 15 , ignition on circuit.  This is much simpler to make and uses less parts, so we can offer it for less $$ .  its gets you the same result of a reliable starter operation, but wont have any effect on anything else.
I suspect that when you put this version in place, you won't see the voltage drop on the other part of the ignition circuit. I believe the drop was caused by the high current required by the starter solenoid being routed through the ignition switch, which this latest version avoids.

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Re: B11/Norge Startus Interruptus-the MPH Solution
« Reply #36 on: August 21, 2011, 05:11:43 AM »
 The simple version will be the only one  offerred.  Simple is good, 20 bux US shipped in CONUS.  Should start going out next week.
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Re: B11/Norge Startus Interruptus-the MPH Solution
« Reply #37 on: August 21, 2011, 06:36:08 AM »
Mike,

You should have my address and card on record. Please send me one.

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Re: B11/Norge Startus Interruptus-the MPH Solution
« Reply #38 on: August 21, 2011, 08:20:46 AM »
Mike,

I'll take one also,

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Re: B11/Norge Startus Interruptus-the MPH Solution
« Reply #39 on: August 21, 2011, 11:19:33 AM »
Mike; I tried calling on Friday evening, but I think you were already closed. I was going to call you yesterday, but Terri and I went out for a ride, and by the time I got home, it was too late. I don't know if you're open on Mondays, but I'll try then.
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Re: B11/Norge Startus Interruptus-the MPH Solution
« Reply #40 on: August 21, 2011, 01:41:01 PM »
Sounds like a great addition.  I'll take one as well.

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Re: B11/Norge Startus Interruptus-the MPH Solution
« Reply #41 on: August 22, 2011, 09:33:41 AM »
Hey; I got through and ordered one! Now all you have to do is figure out how to pronounce Leominster.  ;)
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Re: B11/Norge Startus Interruptus-the MPH Solution
« Reply #42 on: August 22, 2011, 10:31:00 AM »
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Re: B11/Norge Startus Interruptus-the MPH Solution
« Reply #43 on: August 22, 2011, 10:47:17 AM »
Count me in too Mike. Thanks for putting this together.
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Re: B11/Norge Startus Interruptus-the MPH Solution
« Reply #44 on: August 22, 2011, 11:32:15 AM »
pretty much the same solution I had to do on my Electra Glide.

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Re: B11/Norge Startus Interruptus-the MPH Solution
« Reply #45 on: August 22, 2011, 11:53:09 AM »
Ordered one today. Along with a couple of gaskets and a T-Shirt.

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Re: B11/Norge Startus Interruptus-the MPH Solution
« Reply #46 on: August 22, 2011, 05:32:52 PM »
I'm really sorry to ask this but I've been away from the board for a while and I couldn't find anything with the search feature. What problems does this solve?
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Re: B11/Norge Startus Interruptus-the MPH Solution
« Reply #47 on: August 22, 2011, 06:47:59 PM »
I'm really sorry to ask this but I've been away from the board for a while and I couldn't find anything with the search feature. What problems does this solve?

Start here
http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=43725.0

This

http://wildguzzi.com/forum/index.php?topic=46270.0

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Re: B11/Norge Startus Interruptus-the MPH Solution
« Reply #48 on: August 22, 2011, 07:18:47 PM »
Thanks!
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Re: B11/Norge Startus Interruptus-the MPH Solution
« Reply #49 on: August 23, 2011, 07:53:42 AM »
How incredibly wierd. I have never had this problem in the years that I've owned the Norge. Yesterday I read this thread and this morning I press the starter on the Norge, the light show finishes, I press the starter and a loud click and the dash goes dark. Conicidence? Or does Guzzi not give you trials greater than the board's strength to deal with it?
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Re: B11/Norge Startus Interruptus-the MPH Solution
« Reply #50 on: August 23, 2011, 08:05:47 AM »
How incredibly wierd. I have never had this problem in the years that I've owned the Norge. Yesterday I read this thread and this morning I press the starter on the Norge, the light show finishes, I press the starter and a loud click and the dash goes dark. Conicidence? Or does Guzzi not give you trials greater than the board's strength to deal with it?
;D That's pretty much it..
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Re: B11/Norge Startus Interruptus-the MPH Solution
« Reply #51 on: August 23, 2011, 08:14:57 AM »
Dash goes dark?  That is a little different.  Check the battery connections and the ground by the starter.
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Re: B11/Norge Startus Interruptus-the MPH Solution
« Reply #52 on: August 23, 2011, 09:02:35 AM »
How incredibly wierd. I have never had this problem in the years that I've owned the Norge. Yesterday I read this thread and this morning I press the starter on the Norge, the light show finishes, I press the starter and a loud click and the dash goes dark. Conicidence? Or does Guzzi not give you trials greater than the board's strength to deal with it?
Original Battery ? could have went belly up

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Re: B11/Norge Startus Interruptus-the MPH Solution
« Reply #53 on: August 23, 2011, 09:09:41 AM »
How incredibly wierd. I have never had this problem in the years that I've owned the Norge. Yesterday I read this thread and this morning I press the starter on the Norge, the light show finishes, I press the starter and a loud click and the dash goes dark. Conicidence? Or does Guzzi not give you trials greater than the board's strength to deal with it?
Original Battery ? could have went belly up

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Re: B11/Norge Startus Interruptus-the MPH Solution
« Reply #54 on: August 23, 2011, 09:25:54 AM »
Hmm.  I'll have to look into those possibilities.  Yes, the dash goes dark and all is dead. It's the original battery. I had to ride the Ural into work today. Sad thing when your Ural becomes your reliable bike....
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Re: B11/Norge Startus Interruptus-the MPH Solution
« Reply #55 on: August 23, 2011, 10:37:38 AM »
Eric; I had the same thing happen to my Norge. One of the bolts for the terminals was loose.I tightened it and all was well again.
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Re: B11/Norge Startus Interruptus-the MPH Solution
« Reply #56 on: August 31, 2011, 11:40:21 AM »
First batch is ready to ship.
$20 shipped in US.
Overseas shipping at cost. An addition $25 to most of the world.
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Those of you for whom I have CCs on file and who have put your hands up will ship first.
Nick, BC, kitze, will ship today.

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Re: B11/Norge Startus Interruptus-the MPH Solution
« Reply #57 on: August 31, 2011, 12:29:47 PM »
PayPal sent.

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Re: B11/Norge Startus Interruptus-the MPH Solution
« Reply #58 on: August 31, 2011, 12:38:17 PM »
First batch is ready to ship.
$20 shipped in US.
Overseas shipping at cost. An addition $25 to most of the world.
Paypal to todd@mphcycles.com
Those of you for whom I have CCs on file and who have put your hands up will ship first.
Nick, BC, kitze, will ship today.


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Re: B11/Norge Startus Interruptus-the MPH Solution
« Reply #59 on: August 31, 2011, 03:02:43 PM »
Well; Since I called and spoke to you, and gave you my credit card #, I'll assume that I'm one of the fortunate ones.
Yahoo!

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