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Re: Dealership labor rates?
« Reply #30 on: April 16, 2021, 11:32:33 PM »
perhaps ,but do you have any idea of the cost of running a repair shop with employees , workman's comp, liaability insurance, taxes, rent or mortgage, permits and so on?
Plus the costs of sending mechanics to factory service training, the service department manager, service writer, the go-fer that moves bikes and gets stuff for the mechanic so he can do more valuable work.  Also, to cover the overhead of the sales department because they "lose money on every bike sold" or that have been sitting on the floor too long.

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Re: Dealership labor rates?
« Reply #31 on: April 17, 2021, 01:19:40 AM »
The irony of this "screw the stealership" mentality and "lack of dealer network" complaints aren't lost on me.
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Re: Dealership labor rates?
« Reply #32 on: April 17, 2021, 09:22:49 AM »
The irony of this "screw the stealership" mentality and "lack of dealer network" complaints aren't lost on me.
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Re: Dealership labor rates?
« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2021, 12:37:21 AM »
For the most part all the dealerships I've worked with are honest, hardworking enthusiasts who will do everything within their power to make and keep you happy. They are also largely independent business owners who have  to bust their asses to make a profit.

As others have noted the labor rates not only cover the cost of the tech/mechanic but also shop overheads. Bike sale profits are challenging with seasonal fluctuations and skinny margins so the service side has to help cover cash flow gaps there.

We have a new MG dealer in NJ who's 'only' an hour from me. I intend to buy maintenance and other parts there and support them as I'm able. MG may be a side brand for them but throwing them a few bones may encourage more interest/investment on their part.
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Re: Dealership labor rates?
« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2021, 12:37:21 AM »

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Re: Dealership labor rates?
« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2021, 06:00:35 AM »
I do all my own work EXCEPT when my Gold Wing 1800 needed some work.  Just taking all the plastic off to get to stuff is a three -four hour job!

I took it in for rear seat heater not working, brake job, new tires, fluid changes, etc and dont even want to discuss what the total bill was.  I now work on my own Gold Wing too!
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Re: Dealership labor rates?
« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2021, 06:44:09 AM »
I do all my own work EXCEPT when my Gold Wing 1800 needed some work.  Just taking all the plastic off to get to stuff is a three -four hour job!

I took it in for rear seat heater not working, brake job, new tires, fluid changes, etc and dont even want to discuss what the total bill was.  I now work on my own Gold Wing too!
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The now-closed Honda dealer I used to use advised me to pull the bodywork before bringing the bike in to save on labor. Worked out well for me (unless you're riding the bike to them). Same with tire mounting - $50 on the bike, $25 if you just bring the wheel.
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Re: Dealership labor rates?
« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2021, 07:22:16 AM »
The now-closed Honda dealer I used to use advised me to pull the bodywork before bringing the bike in to save on labor. Worked out well for me (unless you're riding the bike to them). Same with tire mounting - $50 on the bike, $25 if you just bring the wheel.

Thats a good idea.  Hoping to do a majority of its maintenance and work myself from now on though!
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Re: Dealership labor rates?
« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2021, 09:15:13 AM »
I do all my own work EXCEPT when my Gold Wing 1800 needed some work.  Just taking all the plastic off to get to stuff is a three -four hour job!

I took it in for rear seat heater not working, brake job, new tires, fluid changes, etc and dont even want to discuss what the total bill was.  I now work on my own Gold Wing too!
  :grin:

This alone is why I am gravitating toward simpler lower maintenance motorcycles.  I have performed open heart surgery on a few bikes.  Fun, but time consuming.

   



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Re: Dealership labor rates?
« Reply #38 on: April 18, 2021, 10:37:37 AM »
This alone is why I am gravitating toward simpler lower maintenance motorcycles.  I have performed open heart surgery on a few bikes.  Fun, but time consuming.

   




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Re: Dealership labor rates?
« Reply #39 on: April 18, 2021, 10:12:47 PM »
$120 ~ $150 / hour around here. Like all industries there are very good honest dealerships and a couple that would steal from their mothers. In comparison to the average charge out rate of my employees when I was in business, shop rates are pretty reasonable IMHO. No one gets rich on labour charge out rates of $120 /hr after factoring in the operating cost to support skilled labour including rent, taxes, utilities, insurance, training, equipment etc.
A local independent BMW / Ducati service shop charged me $700 for a major service on my K1600GTL which included a valve adjustment and coolant flush, remove and flush rad, fluid flush etc. I told them that was very fair given the charge included the fluids and filters and the actual labour (4.5 hours)
The service guy was a little taken aback that I was happy with the charges, I sold my skills by the hour for forty years, repair shops do the same. If I was entitled to be compensated fairly then why shouldn’t the repair shop be given the same respect.
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Re: Dealership labor rates?
« Reply #40 on: April 19, 2021, 02:48:39 AM »
This alone is why I am gravitating toward simpler lower maintenance motorcycles.  I have performed open heart surgery on a few bikes.  Fun, but time consuming.

   





Yep, I agree!
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