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For a straight cruiser, even though you said HD is out, you are doing yourself an injustice not to at the least give them a look see. They are plentiful and under market value, at least in my area. Iíve owned a 1400 Guzzi and they are great cruiser position bikes. However I had an ongoing issue with my 2015 tourer and it had to go. I had a 2008 Kawasaki Vulcan 1500 which proved itself to be a great cruiser/tourer. It was bulletproof!All of your metrics make a solid cruiser style motorcycle. You ask for opinions so hereís mine, good luck in your search efforts. The only advice I would give it when you buy try and not be over the recoup value when you purchase 👍
As an alternative, I present to you..."Moby Dick", aka "The Great White Whale" - 2014 Victory Vision Tour
* 2010+ Triumph Thunderbird, the 1700* 2009 Yamaha VStar 1300Guzziís including the 1400 Thanks mates,inditx
All three are excellent bikes. I am partial to the Yamaha due to a certain feeling they impart regarding styling. That said I currently own a California 1400 which has pleasantly surprised me constantly.Someone mentioned a Victory Vision and lots of people will mock them; mostly those who have never ridden one. The Vision is a superb bike and one of the most comfortable I have ridden. It has great weather protection, is very reliable and comfortable. If long distance riding is your thing it would be a great choice.To add to your list you might also want to look at the Yamaha Road Star and Yamaha Roadliner. Larger V-Twins than the V-Star and more developed design wise. I have also owned a 2000 Road Star (carb version) and it is just a solid bike, fun bike.
So I wasn't going to reply because I don't know either of those bikes well enough and you already said no Harley.But here's how I would go about considering them both:* FIRST - plain and simple - find and ride them see which one fits best. The aftermarket is smaller for both and you don't have nearly the options to make it fit better that you do on Harleys. Both sound pretty big and I might lean toward the Vstar just because it's less "excessive" in engine size (but I don't know actual mass of both so that is probably more important).* NEXT - find out about maintenance. Valve adjustments or hydro? (I'd go hydro unless the adjustments are easy). Belt/shaft/Chain? Some of the Yamaha cruisers had stupid design issues, like exhausts in the way of the oil filter so you'd have to remove part of the exhaust to change the oil. Hopefully that's a thing of the past on these.* DEALER SUPPORT - what's it like in your area (if you care about it).* AFTERMARKET SUPPORT - see first step. Can you get any things you might want for it?* Finally check Brand/Model forums to see if there are any weird things that might exclude one or the other for you. Though I suspect both brands to be pretty reliable you never know if there is some maddening quirk or failure on one that might be a deal breaker.Honestly Just hearing the names I think I'd lean towards the Triumph because it would be more euro-cool in my mind, but as soon as I say that I start thinking "why so big, why not a Bonnie variant then - like the Triumph America or even the damn Bobber which is a really cool bike"So that's my best attempt to be helpful. Have fun and be sure to share what you decide to educate us all!
I ran The Rat Pac for years at a Triumph/Victory dealer. Know all the bikes well. Thunderbird 1600 (I owned a 2010) was really a boring bike.I only bought it on a trade in as I got a great price. Sold it to buy a V7!The Vision was far and away the best of the Victory cruisers IMO. If you gel with the look it's a fabulous machine in it's class. Of the 3, I'd buy the Guzzi as it has even more character, again, for me. The Vision was really good, though. As a lifelong Triumph guy I was a bit surprised how quickly I got bored with the T-Bird. It was too bland.
Thanks KevM, as always very helpful. The 1300 does weigh less than the 1700 but shorter wheelbase makes the Thunderbird look a little cramped for 2 up, still cool thoughNo speedmaster or smaller bonnie 'cause I want a belt this time around Hydraulic valves on the Yammie, shim and bucket on TrumpetI have 2 good dealers locally for eitherThe Triumph can have a chirpy belt is about all Iíve heard and the Yammie appears to be bullet proofinditx
All Metric's are bulletproof and easy to maintain/fix
1700 just a bit "meaner". No real difference with on the road performance.Watch for the cam decompression device. It's press fit on the end of the cam so the motor will spin with those huge pistons. We replaced a few at around 25K as the Press fit goes south and it just spins doing nothing.
Retired from a Yamaha dealership a few years ago , the V-star was nice But , the 1900 was great . not sporty at all , but a motor that never strained . Allthe time there I didn't understand the 1300 V Star at all . Do love my 2018 Eldorado . I just got back from a roadtest of a 2020 T120 , once again very nice,but jeez is that thing little . Great for fun riding , but probably only 2 up on shorter day trips YMMV , but I just know I'm right :) . Peter
Are you changing bikes because you are looking for something new ?You will never like a bike more than the day you bought it, so you may very well never stop buying new bikes. I still enjoy the rush of buying a new bike, more than owning that new bike, however I seem to be growing out of that mindset.I am convinced that if I donít crash either of them, I wonít buy another bike for myself from here on.Just get one, and go places on it. Itís not the bike you tire of, itís the lack of inspiration as to what do do on it. Try getting a 2VPC Norge and circumnavigate North America, that should get you out of the doldrums....
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