Author Topic: 90 Degree V-Twin: Firing Order of 270/450?  (Read 27503 times)

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Re: 90 Degree V-Twin: Firing Order of 270/450?
« Reply #90 on: May 25, 2017, 05:24:39 PM »
I tell you Dusty, the answer is ALWAYS bacon.  Accept that.  Embrace it.  Then all mysteries of life willl be revealed.

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Re: 90 Degree V-Twin: Firing Order of 270/450?
« Reply #91 on: May 25, 2017, 05:36:50 PM »
I tell you Dusty, the answer is ALWAYS bacon.  Accept that.  Embrace it.  Then all mysteries of life willl be revealed.

 Yeah , except I really don't like bacon , so what then ?  :laugh:

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Re: 90 Degree V-Twin: Firing Order of 270/450?
« Reply #92 on: May 25, 2017, 08:56:48 PM »
Well, for those with religious, personal taste, or too many reads of "Charlotte"s Web" that make bacon eating distasteful, there is an alternative fact available.  That answer is "C".   :azn:

But you knew that, or you wouldn't have made it this far.

I think I may have read somewhere once* that the bacon gene is either cultured or dies in the early years, like the yearning to push buttons, or disassembling stuff.  Some kids get it, some don't.  Like the natural attraction to the edge of high places and cat boxes, all babies are born with the natural expectation to like bacon, but for some sad souls, like the little boy surrounded by wonderful machines who grows up and goes liberal arts instead of vocational science, the gene does not exist.  For them, more the pity.  For me, more BACON!! 


* no, I didn't.

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Re: 90 Degree V-Twin: Firing Order of 270/450?
« Reply #93 on: May 25, 2017, 09:28:25 PM »
  :laugh: :shocked: :laugh: :shocked: :laugh: :shocked:

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Re: 90 Degree V-Twin: Firing Order of 270/450?
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Re: 90 Degree V-Twin: Firing Order of 270/450?
« Reply #94 on: May 25, 2017, 09:29:04 PM »
so what do you cook at 9 am?  what about midnite? 
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Re: 90 Degree V-Twin: Firing Order of 270/450?
« Reply #95 on: May 25, 2017, 10:44:39 PM »
you're kidding, I take it.   

And I am still clueless about the 180 degree interval.

Kidding about what?

What 180 degree interval? There is none on the Moto Guzzi twin. Are you referring to 450 - 270 = 180 ? That is not a valid equation because the 450 degrees is not from the initial starting point. It is from the 270 degree point. The proper equation is 450 + 270 = 720 (2 revolutions of the crank). 
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Re: 90 Degree V-Twin: Firing Order of 270/450?
« Reply #96 on: May 25, 2017, 10:59:29 PM »
Kidding about what?

What 180 degree interval? There is none on the Moto Guzzi twin. Are you referring to 450 - 270 = 180 ? That is not a valid equation because the 450 degrees is not from the initial starting point. It is from the 270 degree point. The proper equation is 450 + 270 = 720 (2 revolutions of the crank).

We are in total agreement.  I posted the same thing several times earlier in this thread...... or you could say the firing interval is 9AM and Midnight.   :wink:

the 180 business was posted by someone else and never clarified..... it's not possible with the geometry of a 90 degree V twin
« Last Edit: May 25, 2017, 11:05:29 PM by LowRyter »
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Re: 90 Degree V-Twin: Firing Order of 270/450?
« Reply #97 on: May 26, 2017, 12:59:21 AM »
Yeah , with all due respect to the other participants on this thread , how many of you guys are engineers ? Well , besides Kirby .

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Could be any one of us Dusty..
« Last Edit: May 26, 2017, 01:00:18 AM by Huzo »

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Re: 90 Degree V-Twin: Firing Order of 270/450?
« Reply #98 on: May 26, 2017, 01:11:02 AM »
Could be any one of us Dusty..

 That explains alot , a carpenter would just set the valves and the TPS , check the tires , and ride the dang thing  :shocked:

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Re: 90 Degree V-Twin: Firing Order of 270/450?
« Reply #99 on: May 26, 2017, 01:13:15 AM »
I've wondered why the cylinders were numbered right to left ( from the seat) rather than the standard left to right. The answer is simple and it dawned on my thick head as I was looking at an engine on the bench: front to back, another standard.
From the seating position, they ARE numbered left to right.

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Re: 90 Degree V-Twin: Firing Order of 270/450?
« Reply #100 on: May 26, 2017, 02:15:48 AM »
That explains alot , a carpenter would just set the valves and the TPS , check the tires , and ride the dang thing  :shocked:

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Re: 90 Degree V-Twin: Firing Order of 270/450?
« Reply #101 on: May 26, 2017, 02:27:20 AM »
can you do dovetail joint? I always find it fascinating

 Sure , not much call for that now though .

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Re: 90 Degree V-Twin: Firing Order of 270/450?
« Reply #102 on: May 26, 2017, 04:15:34 AM »
WOW!  Sure wouldn't want to see the thread if we were discussing something with a more complicated firing order, like a flat-plane 60 degree V-8.  Or, an 18 cylinder radial.  Or, a 9 cylinder rotary.....

Anyways, I'll take an AR10 over an M14 ANY day!

M14 anytime! (the Vedeneyev M14P  9 cyl radial...)
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Re: 90 Degree V-Twin: Firing Order of 270/450?
« Reply #103 on: May 26, 2017, 07:06:02 AM »
M14 anytime! (the Vedeneyev M14P  9 cyl radial...)
M14 because you like things that don't work when dirty!?  When in the Corps we mud tested AKMs, M14s, M16s (same architecture as AR10/AR15), M1 Garands, FNALs and a few others.  Bet you can't guess which type worked EVERY time and all the rest failed a lot?

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Re: 90 Degree V-Twin: Firing Order of 270/450?
« Reply #104 on: May 26, 2017, 05:22:59 PM »
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Re: 90 Degree V-Twin: Firing Order of 270/450?
« Reply #105 on: May 26, 2017, 05:58:25 PM »
The AK.
Uh... No.  It's bolt is just as open to the elements as an M1 Garand or an M14 or an FN.

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Re: 90 Degree V-Twin: Firing Order of 270/450?
« Reply #106 on: May 26, 2017, 06:08:02 PM »
Uh... No.  It's bolt is just as open to the elements as an M1 Garand or an M14 or an FN.
Well, almost as open.  The AR15/M16 worked every time.  The AKM and FN FAL were second and the M14/M1 Garands NEVER worked in the mud test.

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