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Re: Bike died on 2nd day
« Reply #60 on: April 21, 2021, 05:19:01 PM »
THE VERDICT IS IN:  the left cylinder tappet screw backed out causing the valve not to open

Did not see that one coming....

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Re: Bike died on 2nd day
« Reply #61 on: April 21, 2021, 05:26:21 PM »
Well, way to go, Luigi! 

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Re: Bike died on 2nd day
« Reply #62 on: April 21, 2021, 05:27:15 PM »
THE VERDICT IS IN:  the left cylinder tappet screw backed out causing the valve not to open

Did not see that one coming....

  :thumb: I think we have heard this before . Glad it is sorted .

 Dusty

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Re: Bike died on 2nd day
« Reply #63 on: April 21, 2021, 06:36:57 PM »
Glad it's sorted and glad you had great dealer support!

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Re: Bike died on 2nd day
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Re: Bike died on 2nd day
« Reply #64 on: April 21, 2021, 06:41:03 PM »
YES!  Go man,go !!
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Re: Bike died on 2nd day
« Reply #65 on: April 21, 2021, 06:53:56 PM »
Have you checked the air pressure?
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Re: Bike died on 2nd day
« Reply #66 on: April 21, 2021, 07:09:10 PM »
Huh.  Would have thought that it would have one-lunged it a bit instead of not starting at all.




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Re: Bike died on 2nd day
« Reply #67 on: April 21, 2021, 07:35:31 PM »
Over the years I’ve done it both ways, jamnut not tight enough and came off,  jamnut over torqued  and broke off the adjuster. I developed a feel for somewhere in the middle .. one of those things that can get so routine that I had to make myself feel stupid at the cost of a couple pushrods and then repeat it a year or two later.
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Re: Bike died on 2nd day
« Reply #68 on: April 21, 2021, 07:48:21 PM »
  :thumb: I think we have heard this before . Glad it is sorted .

 Dusty

If this isn't new then maybe a quick tightness check is called for given it's easy enough to do?
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Re: Bike died on 2nd day
« Reply #69 on: April 21, 2021, 08:27:22 PM »
Good to  hear from you all----Im guessing the factory forgot to check it as thats not a dealer PDI item :drool:

Next goal is try to recoup my 150 for the tow or work it into a free 1st service.
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Re: Bike died on 2nd day
« Reply #70 on: April 21, 2021, 09:52:52 PM »
Glad that's sorted!  And now you'll have a great story to tell your grandchildren! "Grandpa, what's a valve?" they'll ask.  "It's like air intake on your flycycle," you'll be able to tell them.  "If it isn't open, the bike won't fly."

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Re: Bike died on 2nd day
« Reply #71 on: April 21, 2021, 09:54:35 PM »
THE VERDICT IS IN:  the left cylinder tappet screw backed out causing the valve not to open

Did not see that one coming....

OK...IMHO, THAT little data gemstone is a negotiable item for your $150 towing bill or a future free service!! 
(Geeeez!!!) :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :huh: :huh: :huh:
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Re: Bike died on 2nd day
« Reply #72 on: April 22, 2021, 06:41:38 AM »
I know Dave's dealer as wall.  They have a pretty damn standup service dept.

Glad you got it sorted!
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Re: Bike died on 2nd day
« Reply #73 on: April 22, 2021, 06:54:09 AM »
Huh.  Would have thought that it would have one-lunged it a bit instead of not starting at all.

That's what I thought too, but I wonder if that's also part of what he meant by sounded like it wanted to start.

Maybe it was trying but couldn't sustain on one cylinder against maybe compression in the other?
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Re: Bike died on 2nd day
« Reply #74 on: April 22, 2021, 07:04:11 AM »
 I had a 950 Guzzi that suffered a Dyna ignition failure and rode 50 miles back home. We even stopped at a pub and several other times..The engine had no problem restarting ,it just was slow and shook like a wet dog..An injected engine may act differently...
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Re: Bike died on 2nd day
« Reply #75 on: April 22, 2021, 07:19:01 AM »
OK...IMHO, THAT little data gemstone is a negotiable item for your $150 towing bill or a future free service!! 
(Geeeez!!!) :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :huh: :huh: :huh:

I’m sure other brands would have “different ideas “ for appeasing the customer in this type of situation...

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Re: Bike died on 2nd day
« Reply #76 on: April 22, 2021, 07:33:22 AM »
That's high quality humor right there.
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Re: Bike died on 2nd day
« Reply #77 on: April 22, 2021, 07:47:44 AM »
That's high quality humor right there.

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Re: Bike died on 2nd day
« Reply #78 on: April 22, 2021, 07:59:12 AM »
 Honda would have claimed it was an electrical problem and offered a ball cap as recompense . Yamaha would have blamed it on Honda .

 Dusty

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Re: Bike died on 2nd day
« Reply #79 on: April 22, 2021, 08:13:41 AM »
THE VERDICT IS IN:  the left cylinder tappet screw backed out causing the valve not to open

Did not see that one coming....

Nothing like a bit of drama on a new bike.

Now go out and put a few thousand miles on it next week. and break it in.
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Re: Bike died on 2nd day
« Reply #80 on: April 22, 2021, 08:26:12 AM »
 A simple nuts and bolts fix. There is no code for that sort of problem. Some debate over if it would run in that situation but not knowing if it was intake of exhaust (at least if it's there I missed it) Either one would affect things differently and whether or not it was partially opening or not at all. Surprised it didn't make obvious clatter but on a bike so new to you it may not be so obvious as you aren't used to all it's noises.
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Re: Bike died on 2nd day
« Reply #81 on: April 22, 2021, 08:29:34 AM »
My Audace dropped a valve at 543 miles. Fortunately the dealer still had it and the manager had taken it out for spin prior to my arriving to test ride it. I'm glad it didn't happen when I was riding it. I might have been blamed even though it has a rev limiter. Piaggio sent a new motor for it. I have only 11,000 miles on it now, would be more but for Covid. You just never know with a new bike. Fortunately yours was pretty minor.
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Re: Bike died on 2nd day
« Reply #82 on: April 22, 2021, 08:31:11 AM »
A simple nuts and bolts fix. There is no code for that sort of problem. Some debate over if it would run in that situation but not knowing if it was intake of exhaust (at least if it's there I missed it) Either one would affect things differently and whether or not it was partially opening or not at all. Surprised it didn't make obvious clatter but on a bike so new to you it may not be so obvious as you aren't used to all it's noises.

Its funny you mention that, I did notice a bit of a winding noise prior to it happened, but as others have said, guzzis make so many noises plus it was new, hard to tell. Off to pick up now.
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Re: Bike died on 2nd day
« Reply #83 on: April 22, 2021, 08:33:02 AM »
It would have been a normal sound for a 1400.   :evil:
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Re: Bike died on 2nd day
« Reply #84 on: April 22, 2021, 11:12:42 AM »
Bike is back and runs fine, nothing like a nice ride in 37* weather with 30-40mph winds...

My comfort tall seat was in so I put that on and its very well made, suede top and about 7/8" higher. Minimal back pain.

I was glad to see the dealer took their last V85 TT model into service and check it out as well
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Re: Bike died on 2nd day
« Reply #85 on: April 22, 2021, 11:35:07 AM »
Glad it was something simple! :thumb:

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Re: Bike died on 2nd day
« Reply #86 on: April 22, 2021, 11:45:27 AM »
Honda would have claimed it was an electrical problem and offered a ball cap as recompense . Yamaha would have blamed it on Honda .

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Re: Bike died on 2nd day
« Reply #87 on: April 22, 2021, 01:59:44 PM »
I had to retrieve two friends on separate occasions because the valve adjusters had broke off. Both had their bike serviced at the same dealership, now long gone. One on an Aluminum and the other on an 1100 Sport.  I assume it was a combination of poor materials and over torquing the nut.

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Re: Bike died on 2nd day
« Reply #88 on: April 22, 2021, 02:49:41 PM »
BMW and Harley Davidson would have said, "They all do that." 

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Re: Bike died on 2nd day
« Reply #89 on: April 22, 2021, 03:32:18 PM »
Bike is back and runs fine, nothing like a nice ride in 37* weather with 30-40mph winds...


Dave, how did the bike handle those winds?
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